Xmen vs Street Fighter
Zangief Information
Ver 1.4
Version History
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Ver 1.0 Basic Information
Ver 1.1 A few little extras and clean up
Ver 1.2 A new combo plus SPD advice
Ver 1.3 Lots of clean up and additions/corrections
Ver 1.4 Zangief's EVIL combo added ( finally )
Normal Moves
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Jab(1) Good speed and range still.
Strong(2) Hold forwards ( or down in air ) to use Elbow Drop move.
Useful for fast air-to-ground attack. Hits opponents on
the ground but has bad recovery.
Fierce(3) Splash ( hold down ) has good priority and
stays out for a long time. Standing punch has
great range.
Short(4) Good for SPD/FAB ticks.
Forward(5) Not as necessary as SF, because ground game
isn't as tight. Jumping knees ( hold down )
still has great priority.
Great range still.
Roundhouse(6) Still great range. Standing RH is a 2-hit small
launcher.
Special Moves
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Spinning Lariat 3P (Air)
Still great air defence. Beware people who air block, then dash back in
or super and remember that they can roll back into you even after it connects.
Short Spinning Lariat 3K (Air)
Only hits opponents straight up, and they will sometimes come down and
throw you. Not much use unless you know they'll block.
Spinning Piledriver (SPD) 360 + P (Air)
Range is a little better than SFZ2. Practising air-SPDs is well worth
it. Does GOOD damage. I have found that doing the SPD motion with a
3/4 circle from back to up works really well sometimes, especially in
air combos.
Siberian Suplex (SS) HCF + K (Close)
Good vs cornered opponent. Do a jump in, then SS.
Run and Grab HCF + K (Far)
Very useful. Speed is a little better than SF, now goes through
non-sweep/launcher hits. Only use as a surprise move or against
scrubs.
Banishing Punch DP + P (Cancels Fireballs but not other
projectiles) Not too useful, but can SPD or FAB after it connects for
difficult to a void tick.
Air Throw HCB + K
Really sucks hard. One use is when you do a strong throw in the corner,
use it to grab them out of the air.
Grab Dash F, F then 2, 5, 3 or 6
When Zangief dashes, if he connects with the opposition ( doesn't seem
to work well against cornered opponents ) he grabs them. Push a button
for which throw you want to do. I haven't been able to SPD or FAB
after the grab.
Hyper X: Final Atomic Buster (FAB) 360 + PP
The most damaging super in the game! See tactics section for ways to
actually get people with it! Goes through hits like Run and Grab.
Tactics
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Zangief plays much the same as in SF, but doesnt have to work so hard on the
ground because of Xmen vs Sfs big air game. One big problem with Zangief is
getting close to people which can be hard if they dont want you to. Super
jumping is one of the few ways around this, but if the opponent is awake,
you can spend your whole time chasing him. So when you do get them, make sure
it hurts!
Getting in. The age old Zangief problem. He still has his SF move priority, so
jumping in with the splash(down+3) or the knees(down+5) are still great
options. His tick is much the same as SF - if you clean hit with a crouching
short(4), they are SPDd. If not, they may be.
The Run and Grab is better against turtles than SF because its a little faster
and goes through non-sweep hits! And it looks cool!
As with SFZ etc, you should centre your attack around the FAB. It does EVIL
amounts of damage and looks REALLY cool. It has the disadvantage that its
slow. This can be offset in several different ways:
#1:Jumping splash(3) ( ending up close to opponent ), crouching short(4), FAB
is VERY hard to escape because the FAB starts so close to the opponent,
especially if you hit very deep with the splash and short.
#2: Jumping splash ( connects ), standing roundhouse(6) ( small launcher, 2
hits must connect), interrupt into FAB ( grabs them as they come down ) is
inescapable.
#3: Strong(2) throw ( throws them upwards ), FAB ( as they come down ) is hard
to get out of unless the target character has an air move involving movement,
like Dhalsims t eleport etc, or they hit you with a Fierce(3) or Roundhouse(6)
as they come down, but it sur prises most people, so this shouldn't be a
problem.
#4: After a SPD, if they roll towards you, do a FAB which will grab them out of
their roll. MUCH COOLNESS and VERY effective!
#5: After killing their first character or if they swap characters, if you are
on their side of the screen, do a FAB as their second character jumps in, they
automatically land right in front of you.
#6: After any move the opponent does which has a long delay, or puts them in
the air to fall back down ( e.g. DPs ) if you are close.
#7: If you manage to get someone with the Dash Grab, wait until the instant
Zangief lets go of them, then FAB. Not a reliable technique.
Basically, just be a Zangief as per SF, but use super jumps to get close when
necessary.
Don't use Zangief as the second half of a team counter unless youre
REALLY close because he does the Run and Grab, and wont hit unless theyre in
the corner. The up side of this Run and Grab is that it's invulnerable ( as
far as I know ) .
When used as part of a team super, he does a Lariat.
Combos
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You mean Zangief has combos? Yes, this is an alien thing to Zangief players,
but he only has a few.
Jumping knees(D+5), splash(D+3), standing 6, lariat
Jumping knees(D+5), splash(D+3), crouching 5 cancel into Banishing Punch
(DP+P), SPD or FAB ( note that the SPD or FAB on the end doesn't ACTUALLY
combo, it's just REALLY hard to avoid ) He has a ground comb which the
computer does which I have yet to figure out. It 's something like
standing jab,short,fierce,lariat. Any info appreciated.
Air combos:
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,lariat
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,6 or 3
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,lariat,6(corner)
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,6,6(corner)
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,SPD(tricky) - the HCF continuing to U SPD
method works well
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,air throw, ( if they don't roll.. ) <land>,
crouching short,SPD
crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,lariat(w K), <land>, standing 6, Run+Grab/FAB
Some VS Character info
Sabretooth: Watch the speed on his jump. You cant try to hit him as he
jumps in, so the best bet is to lariat, but be careful of him
jumping in blocking. Punish his "jump and grab" thing when he
bounces off with a standing 3. Punish missed "weapon X" supers
with a SPD or FAB but be careful, because he often ends
up behind you and if you do it too fast, you'll be facing the
wrong way.
If he air-combos you, make sure you're ready to tech-hit out of
an air throw or you'll eat a super.
Ken\Ryu\Akuma Just like the old days! Same tactics as SF, but less ground
tactics required, because you can jump in with impunity while
blocking!
Gambit Watch for the startup delay on his cards and jump over them. If
he does the airborne card throw, block the first, then
superjump and air-SPD him as he throws again ( he proabably
will throw at least two ). If he does the bounce off the walls
and come down move, launch him with a crouching 2 as he drops.
Wolverine Getting close to Wolverine isnt a problem, because hes usually
in your face. When hes air-comboing you, hold down and hammer
on the 2 button because you can air-throw him after the drill
claw in his air combo. Be aware that his throws have truly
evil speed. Try to avoid lariat as air defence, because he can
dash back in really fast after bounching off.
Cyclops Another tricky one because of speed difference. Again be very
careful. Punish any close range optic blasts. Watch out for
the dash-throw especially in combos.
Magneto If he flys, super jump and air-SPD as he throws the downward
blasts. Watch out for his slide cancelled into the hyper grabs
balls move.
Storm Hope that they dont use the "Milo Cooper" off the screen crap.
Block a lot and super jump a lot while blocking and look for
chances to SPD while in the air. Get to know when you can
stop blocking the typhoons - they stick around
for a while after they stop actually hitting.
Zangief As always, Zangief vs Zangief fights are short and violent.
Cammy Again a few problems from speed difference, but no projectile
to contend with, except the cannon drill which you can FAB if
you block it.
Dhalsim Block push or lariat his yoga-spear attacks always.
Juggernaut Always an exciting fight. Be real careful. Look for moves with
bad recovery and SPD or FAB those long limbs. Try not to be
the first to make a mistake, because itll probably be your
last. Read my Juggernaut FAQ! :)
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