_ _ ____ _ _ _____ ________ _______ ______
| \ / | / \ | \ | | / __ \ | _ _ | | ____ | | __ \
| \ / | / __ \ | \ | | \ \ \ \ |/ | | \| | | \| | | \ |
| \_/ | | / \ | | \ | | \ \ \/ | | | |___ | |__/ |
| | | | | | | |\ \ | | \ \ | | | ___| | __/
| |\_/| | | \__/ | | | \ \| | /\ \ \ | | | | | |\ \
| | | | \ / | | \ | \ \_/ / | | | |____/| | | \ \
|__| |__| \____/ |_| \__| \____/ |__| |_______| |__| \_\
__ __ _ _ _ _ ________ _______ ______
| | | | | | | | | \ | | | _ _ | | ____ | | __ \
| | | | | | | | | \ | | |/ | | \| | | \| | | \ |
| |___| | | | | | | \ | | | | | |___ | |__/ |
| ___ | | | | | | |\ \ | | | | | ___| | __/
| | | | | | | | | | \ \| | | | | | | |\ \
| | | | | \__/ | | | \ | | | | |____/| | | \ \
|__| |__| \______/ |_| \__| |__| |_______| |__| \_\
________ ______ _______ _______ _____ ____ _ _
| | | __ \ | ____ | | ____ | | \ / \ | \ / |
| _____| | | \ | | | \| | | \| | __ \ / __ \ | \ / |
| |___ | |__/ | | |___ | |___ | | \ | | / \ | | \_/ |
| ___| | __/ | ___| | ___| | | | | | | | | | |
| | | |\ \ | | | | | |__/ | | \__/ | | |\_/| |
| | | | \ \ | |____/| | |____/| | / \ / | | | |
|__| |__| \_\ |_______| |_______| |_____/ \____/ |__| |__|
_ _ _ _ _______ ________ _______
| | | | | \ | | |__ __| | _ _ | | ____ | TM
| | | | | \ | | | | |/ | | \| | | \|
| | | | | \ | | | | | | | |___
| | | | | |\ \ | | | | | | | ___|
| | | | | | \ \| | | | | | | |
| \__/ | | | \ | __| |__ | | | |____/|
\______/ |_| \__| |_______| |__| |_______|
~Piggy Mog's Bow Guide~
Version 1.0
Last Updated: October 28, 2012.
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Table of Contents
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1) Disclaimer/Legal crap [Section 1]
2) Monster Hunter Freedom Unite introduction [Section 2]
3) Why choose a bow? [Section 3]
4) Bow basics [Section 4]
-Controls
-Camera types
-Charging the bow
-Weapon range multiplier
-Charge levels
-Coatings
-Bow-related skills
-Stamina management
-Regarding to Damage Calculation
5) Skills and equipment selection [Section 5]
6) FAQs [Section 6]
7) Final Thoughts [Section 7]
8) Credits [Section 8]
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Section 1:
~Disclaimer/Legal Crap~
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Disclaimer:
This is a weapon faq that analysis bow purely as a weapon class, and targets
both beginners and advanced archers, yet does not emphasize individual skills
as a player--which means everyone should be able to learn something by reading
this guide. Please be aware that I only put information regarding things that
I have done by myself, therefore, those who are interested to do time attacks
should look else where, such as Youtube or Nico Nico.
I started using bow since Monster Hunter Dos, pretty much by self learning,
therefore there are original insights to the weapon. The exclusion would be
general statistics (which are found everywhere, too board to even quote), and
damage calculation (written by Boldrin). If there are any specific information
regarding to specific quest that are not discovered myself, they would be
specified and credits will be given, whether I remember who it is or
not.
Please note that when a bow name is mentioned, it refers to the whole upgrade
path under the same name so it will be suitable to your progress no matter
where you are (ex: "Hunter's Bow" = Hunter's Bow --> Hunter's Bow IV). If a
specific bow is mentioned, usually the final form of the upgrade tree, the full
name will be specified. Please note that "Courageous Hope" series only gets
renamed in the English version. Originally, it is Courageous Hope I to III,
therefore still just "Courageous Hope" but not "Dream" or "Wish" in the guide.
This guide is written in the practical point of view, so if you are consulting
for datebases--for weapon or for monster--please check other guides or websites
for them. This guide is long enough even without them.
If there are any mistakes in the guide or questions about bows, please e-mail
to
[email protected]. No questions are bad questions, but insults
will not only be ignored, but will also be posted and to be seen by the public,
and I will NOT conceal the sender's identity. So if you're ready to embarrass
yourself, be my guest.
Legal crap:
This FAQ is writen by Piggy Mog and will be available online ONLY on GameFaqs.
If any information only found on this guide is used, please contact me first.
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Section 2:
~Introduction to Monster Hunter Freedom Unite~
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Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, or Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G in Japan, is the
final PSP instalment of the second generation Monster Hunter, originated from
MH Dos (pronunced "dots", means "2" in Spanish). It includes all the weapons
used in Dos, threw a few more monsters along with Dos' collection--the violent
glutton Tigrex and gigantic Akantor in Freedom 2 (P2nd), jumpy Hypnocatrice/
Hypnoc and huge yet agile Lavasioth/Volganos from Frontier Online, and last but
not least, its own addition of fast, stealthy Nargacuga and Akantor's icy
cousin Ukanlos.
This particular instalment is probably the most completed 2nd generation MH,
along with having the most solo-accessible content available, provided you can
get that far.
Although I have never played Freedom 2 (first MH even tried was P2ndG), bow
damage has seemed toned down, namely the Akantor bow, from borderline G rank in
power during F2 down to actually high rank stats in FU, with the real G rank
version not much stronger than its previous high rank counterpart.
Another lament to most western players would be the fact that FU had all
Japanese sponsored related content sealed (Famitsu, Dengeki, etc.) and
therefore making access to certain weapons impossible (fan-shaped dual swords
with "Famitsu" written on it everyone?). Quests originally designed for ticket
farming would have quest name changed to eliminate references relating to the
sponsors (ex: "Dentegi Festival" -> "Two Shadows at the Swamp"). Fortunately
the tickets are only dummied out, but not taken away from the game data
entirely, therefore it is STILL possible to get them. However, the only non-
cheating way to obtain the tickets is to play via online ad-hoc connection
(Ad-Hoc Party, X-Link Kai, or MH Tunnel). Fortunately for archers, the only
valuable equipment that is sealed is the Dia Soul Arrow, which is a fired-based
pierce bow that uses the model for Diablos Horns Bow but red in colour. Your
life won't end without it.
However... this faq will introduce P2ndG-only equipment (but will also provide
a back up equipment selection), so be warned.
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Section 3:
~Why choose a bow?~
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Well, this question is just like any other people asking "why choose a hammer/
GS/LS/etc.?" for other popular weapon classes. One reason would be the fact
that very little people appreciate bows (at least before Portable 3rd, but then
it is more abusing than appreciating it) while they are probably one of the
very few true hunting weapons in real life that is portrayed in Monster Hunter.
Shame they only introduced it in Dos.
Although many people say it's a very easy class due to its mobility and
unlimited arrows, in fact it has some hidden traps leading people to hold it in
disdain. The most obvious example would be "why does it takes forever to kill
stuff with a bow?". This guide will explain the reasons thoroughly.
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Section 4:
~Bow Basics~
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"I'd really love to use ranged weapons, but the number of Bowgun shells is just
way too confusing to me...! There must be hunters thinking this right now.
This report is aimed at those hunters, and in this edition, we will cover Bows.
Many dismiss the Bow as underpowered compared to melee weapons and lacking the
variety of the Bowguns, but in reality, the Bow is a deep and complex weapon.
Of course, its attacks will not cause stunning damage, and there are only four
coatings and thus four arrow types. However, a Bow's crafting, range and
charge attacks surely make up for its shortcomings!"
~Hunting Life - A Monthly Magazine For Hunters--
Tool of the Trade - Range Weapons (Bow)~
No other description better for the bow is just found right there in the
magazine stored in your own hunter's room! Yes, a bow will never punch as hard
as a Hammer nor a Great Sword (GS), nor will be able to deal with different
situation like a bowgun simply by switching between different ammo. However,
the true beauty of the bow lies in planning ahead and carefully choosing the
right bow and skills, along with persistence and endless fire.
* * *
<Controls>
Just before you starting shooting, we should go over the most basics--how to
use it.
Analog: Jogging (you can jog while charging the bow)
-however, you will stand still when your puts the arrows to the bow
R + Analog: Running (weapon sheathed)
Triangle: Unshethe weapon / Fire arrows (hold down to charge, release to
shoot)
-if you push or hold the Triangle while jogging or running, you'll
automatically start charging/shooting
R Button: Aim when weapon is unsheathed
-You will see a line changing colour (between red and yellow,
presumably to add contrast against the background). It follows
the path of the top arrow of rapid charge.
X Button: Crawl (standing still, weapon sheathed) /
Back step (weapon unsheathed, without using the analog) /
Roll (while moving, weapon sheathed or not)
Square: Use items (weapon sheathed) / Same as X (weapon unsheathed)
O Button: Melee attack
Analog + Triangle + O: Melee attack when weapon is sheathed
D-Pad: Camera / Change direction of bow (when R is hold down with bow
unsheathed, charging or not)
L Button: Move camera to default (to the direction your character is facing)
Triangle + O: Equip coatings when weapon is unsheathed and a coating is chosen
(coating is selected, but is shown in white)
L + D-Pad Up or Down: Coating selection / Unequip coating (if one is equipped)
<Camera types>
Unlike melee fighters, the camera may or may not switch when you aim with the
weapon. So let's take a look at the cameras available.
Type 1 (Default):
The camera switchs from bird's eye view to viewing from behind your character
when then R button is hold down. The character is still seen, andstands on the
left side of the screen.
Type 2 (Dos' default):
The camera dow not move when you aim. So in other words, you're aiming just
like the old school 3rd person game.
Type 3:
This one can be a little awkward. While it acts just like Type 1 when you aim,
but the camera will move (not swift) back to default bird's eye view. So if
you're the type who tend to tilt the camera at the beginning of the quest just
like most people do, you should avoid this at all costs!
<Charging the Bow>
Charge! Charge!! Charge!!!
The very first key of using a bow is to charge it! It is the first thing you
should do if you plan to kill anything. An average bow will come with three
charge levels, although exceptions exist. Here are the multipliers based on
charge levels. Note that charge level multipliers apply to ALL shot types and
shot levels, and would be the most basic guide of how much damage is done.
Charge 1 (no charge time, just draw and release):
-Raw: 0.4
-Element: 0.7 (Boldrin's guide says lower, and other guides say
differently... However, I have no means to vertify this)
-Poison: 0.5
-Other status: 0.5
Charge 2 (one charge flash):
-Raw: 1.0
-Element: 0.85 (same suspicion as above)
-Poison: 1.0
-Other status: 1.0
Charge 3 (2 flashes, the final charge level most bow innately have):
-Raw: 1.5
-Element: 1.0
-Poison: 1.5
-Other status:1.3
Charge 4 (3 flashes, most bows require armor skill Capacity Up to unlock this):
-Raw: 1.7
-Element: 1.125
-Poison: 1.5
-Other status: 1.3
As you can see, charge 3 is superior to level 2 in terms of raw damage by
increasing 50% of damage simply by charging a fraction of a second more.
Charge 3 is superior to charge 4 in terms of elemental output because of too
little percentage of increase between the charges that does not justify the
extra charge time. In the case if the charge 3 is pierce or scatter at level 3
or above and the charge 4 is rapid, the charge 3 will actually do more
elemental damage!
* * *
<Weapon Range Multiplier>
Able to manage it all the time is the key to maximize damage output in the raw
damage department. Lucky for those who own FU, visual effects are only added
in this instalment.
There are 4 different range multipliers. Here's a picture to roughly represent
it. I'll use pierce shot as the model as it's easier to follow (for other shot
types, everything's just shorter).
The following is just a rough visual representation, but only an estimate:
H o o o o 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 o o o o X X x x x x x (bow disappears)
H = Hunter
o = 1.0X
Happens if you're way too close or a little too far from optimal range/spot.
Razor coatings will make close range's multiplier to 1.3. You will see mid-
sized blast and some good smashing sound.
0 = 1.5X
You're at good range and optimal damage is done. You will see large blasts and
impressive smashing sound.
X = 0.8X
You're just a little too far but the arrows still got on the monster somehow.
Very small light spot seen when hit.
x = 0.5X
You're way, way too far. Arrows bounce off the monster.
* * *
< Shot Types >
The other property of the bow you should pay attention to. Each bow has
different combination of shot types at different charge levels so choose the
bow depending on what shot types charges 2 and 3, or even 4 fire (the charge
level you can ignore should only be charge 1). The basic (and therefore would
be used most) shot type is rapid, which is a mid-ranged, multi-arrows that hit
at the very same spot. The other very commonly used shot type is pierce, a
single arrow that hit the monster a couple times. The very last shot type is
scatter, with couple arrows spreading into a fan-shaped patten, that you may
avoid using it in the entire life--unless you know its potential.
Please beware that ranges are only estimates. Use your judgment to determine
whether it is in optimal range or not.
Now, let's look at the specifics of each shot type.
1. Rapid
This is the most basic shot type, and therefore it is wise to get used to the
bow with such bows. It is capable to kill most small to medium-sized monsters
unless under certain circumstances.
Type of arrows:
Multiple arrows hitting the same spot, arrows may spread a little sideways as
they travel. It elevates a little while released and will fly lower over
range.
Optimum range:
Approximately 3 hops or 1.5 roll.
Optimum spot:
Approximately half a hop (or 1 step).
Level 1:
# of shots - 1
Damage output - 0.12
Status points - 13
Level 2:
# of shots - 2
damage output - 0.12 + 0.4 (top to bottom, will be same for other levels)
Status points - 7 X 2 arrows
Level 3:
# of shots - 3
damage output - 0.12 + 0.4 + 0.3
Status points - 5 X 3 arrows
Level 4:
# of shots - 4
damage output - 0.12 + 0.4 + 0.3 + 0.2
Status points - 4 X 4 arrows
Level 5:
# of shots - 4
damage output - 0.12 + 0.4 + 0.3 + 0.3
Status points - 4 X 4 arrows
Other than having the extra 1% of damage, rapid 4 and 5's main difference
israpid 5's arrows are less likely to weave than level 4's (thanks hunter nya
for this info).
Advanced archer's note:
The top arrows would have better optimum range, while the bottom arrow suffers
from out of optimum range a little earlier (also it has tendency of missing aim
and land to a lower hitzone which ALWAYS further), therefore it's a little safe
to shoot just a step closer and aim *slightly* higher). Or put it the other
way, its optimum spot is at the peak of its track.
2. Pierce
This is the other commonly used shot type... this one just mostly focuses on
huge or long monsters, or monsters having concealed weakpoints (they tend to be
very huge anyway). They are also excellent in terms of elemental damage output
for monsters weak against an element all over their body because you get more
hits focused on a single track. This is the only shot type with level being an
indicator of range.
Type of arrow:
a single arrow that hits a monster a couple times. Its flies a little higher
than rapid over range.
Optimum range:
Level 3 - between approximately 1.5 rolls to 2.5 rolls
Level 4 - between approximately 1.75 rolls to 3.5 rolls
Level 5 - between approximately 1.75 rolls to 5 rolls
Optimum Spot:
It's basically the entire optimum range.
Level 1:
# of hits: 3
Damage output - 0.6 X 3
Status points - 5 X 3 hits
Level 2:
# of hits: 4
Damage output - 0.6 X 4
Status points - 4 X 4 hits
Level 3-5:
# of hits: 5
Damage output - 0.6 X 5
Status points - 4 X 5 hits
Right... The above DOES say pierce levels 3, 4, and 5 all have the very same
damage output. So what is the difference? Range--with charge 3 with less
overall and optimum range (optimum range barely goes over a king size
Plesioth), with charge 5 with longest range (you can shoot full powered arrows
at Lao's back from Area 1, with ease).
Advanced archer's note:
Charge 3 enters optimum range around half a hop closer than pierce 4 and a
little more closer than pierce 5. In other words, pierce 3 is actually better
for engaging a monster, while pierce 5 is the best if you need to snipe.
3. Scatter
Okay... Unlike bowgun's pellet shot that would home to monsters' weakpoints,
your arrows actually do spread, and therefore it is very difficult to hit a
monster's weakpoint if it is too small (or getting all hits on a small
monster). Also, its distinctive pathway and advanced range arrangement makes
it only suggested for advanced archers. However, once you master it, it is
very deadly if you have Scatter Up skill.
Type of arrows:
3 or 5 arrows spread horizontally in a fan shape. Ascends sooner and much
higher than other shot types. However, the peak of the track might not be
optimal spot.
Optimal range:
Around 1 roll.
Optimal spot:
Just half a hop.
Level 1:
# of hits: 3
Damage output: 0.4 + 0.5 + 0.4 (from left to right, with the middle arrow the
most powerful)
Status points: 5X3 arrows
Level 2:
# of hits: 3
Damage output: 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5
Status points: 6 X 3 arrows
Level 3:
# of hits: 5
Damage putput: 0.4 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.4
Status points: 4 X 5 arrows
Level 4:
# of hits: 5
Damage output: 0.4 + 0.5 + 0.6 + 0.5 + 0.4
Status points: 4 X 5 arrows
Level 5:
# of hits: 5
Damage output: 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.6 + 0.5 + 0.5
Status points: 4 X 5 arrows
Beginner archer's note:
Unlike the other 2 shot types, the key of success of using it is to AVOID
aiming just at the weakpoint, but instead go for landing as many arrows as
possible.
So... basically using the scatter proficiently already is really really
hard... So unless you need the element of the bow for destruction (namely
Blangonga's fangs before you get your hands on Courageous Hope, which is from
high rank Teo), you can stick to your old rapid and pierce and kill everything
unless you're ambitious for TA.
* * *
< Melee Attack >
Alright, alright... Everyone knows you shoot with the bow, but the melee
attack is still there for a reason... Both hits of the combo are slash attacks
by the way.
First slash:
Raw: 0.1
Status points: 2
Second slash:
Raw: 0.24
Status points: 2
That's it. Basically a simple X-shaped 2-hit combo. They are considered
"green sharpness" in terms of determining bouncing. They will promote to "blue
sharpness" if you have equipped with razor coatings.
Uses of the melee attack:
-OBVIOUSLY its capabilities of cutting a tail. However, it is completely
useless if the monster is holding the tail high up in the air. However, if you
are stuck with a bunch of blade-wielding hunters that never reach for the tail,
perhaps you can take care of the dirty job...
-I have done it before (in that particular incident, I was teamed with 3
hunters, the first one was a bowgunner, the second one used a para SnS and
the third hunter used a LS doing the same quest a couple times, with me
being the main tail cutter all along. In the "worst" run, the very first
hit done by the LS hunter snapped the tail, along with only 1 power
coating consumed in the entire quest... the best part was the melee team
was oblivious to how to cut Elder Dragons' tails...).
-Killing small monsters if you're not using a rapid bow, or the small monster
is too strong against shot damage. The best example of both situations present
is killing small crabs (resistant to shot damage) while your main target is
Gravios (normally you would bring a pierce bow). If you know you'll encounter
this, it's best to keep a single power coating left over just to deal with
them.
-Application of paint coatings. The fact that melee attacks will not consume
coatings can make your only paint coating unlimited paintballs. Of course, you
will have to get personal with the monster. However, this fact can also allow
you to put more damage to a tail if you just save that one coating. Just read
the above case.
How NOT to use the melee attack:
-Applying status coatings. Yes, you won't consume coatings that is, but you
only get 2 points per hit along with accumulated status point drop rate of 5
points/10 seconds to 10 points/5 sec while a melee attack takes just a little
than 2 seconds to execute (plus you will need to jog to a monter)... It is
literally impossible to poison/sleep/para anything just by yourself that has
decent resistance or moving all over the place...
-Of course, if other team members are also pumping the very same status
toward the monster, that would be another story.
* * *
< Coatings >
In order to use a bow efficiently, you'll have to get your hands on them...
especially you're killing monsters in a long quest. So there are the different
coatings available.
1. Power Coatings
-Usage: increase raw damage of the bow by 50% (will NOT work for elemental
damage if said bow has element)
-Cost: 32z each (1600z for 50)
-Maximum amount you can carry: 50
-Mix receipe: empty bottle + nitroshroom for 1~2 power coatings (Note:
you can carry 20 nitroshroom in your pocket)
These will be the basic coatings you should be bringing if you're against hard
monsters, especially if you're using a raw bow. Basic for high and G rank
quests, so at least buy 50 each time!
Beginner archer's note:
Okay, while power coatings are good for everything, they are in fact way too
expensive if you have just begun your hunter's life... So save your zennies to
make better equipment first and it will serve you in the long run, just like
melee hunters.
2. Poison Coatings
-Usage: poison monster and decrease their HP gradually (please refer to
other faqs or sources for poison damage), or negate monster's
special effects (Kushala's wind barrior, Teoster/Lunaster's fire
aura, and Chameleos'sinvisibility)
-Cost: 17z each (340z for 20)
-Maximum amount you can carry: 20
-Mix recipe: empty bottle + toadstool for 1~2 coatings (you can carry 10
toadstool max)
These can help you damage monster if you run out of power coatings. Some
monsters can suffer significant HP loss while some monsters receive negligible
damage. Please refer monster guides for poison damage. However, gigantic
monsters (really huge and no size difference) will not suffer from any status
aliments, so watch out. Last but not least, monster's tolerance of status
ailments builds up over time (check monster info as well).
Also, the bow's element will be replaced by status coatings' effect if
equipped.
3. Paralyze Coatings
-Usage: immobilize monster for a certain period of time
-Cost: 26z each (520z for 20)
-Maximum amount you can carry: 20
-Mix recipe: empty bottle + parashroom for 1~2 coatings (you can carry
10 parashroom max)
These sound great, but they are quite useless if you're soloing... It might
give you a chance to plant a bomb, lay a trap, maybe slash the tail for a few
times... but that's it. These should really be used if you accompanying a
heavy damage team, then para coatings will shine (but then you'll out competed
if there's a para SnS user or bowgunner who can use para shots in your team,
so...)
Application caution is just the same as any other status coatings.
4. Sleep Coatings
-Usage: put monsters to sleep
-Cost: 17z (340z for 20)
-Maximum amount you can carry: 20
-Mix recipe: empty + sleep herbs for 1~2 coatings (you can carry 10
sleep herbs max)
Okay, so both paralysis and sleep make monster vulnerable, so what's the
difference?
Monsters take 3 times the damage for the "wake up call attack". It is
particularly useful if you're using sleep bombing tactic (solo or not), or if
you have a heavy hitting member (best be GS user). Abuse the 3X attack, and
the monster will be bought down much quicker.
A very famous arching-bomber has developed his own set of sleep bombing set and
can clear literally all quests featuring monsters that can be put to sleep. So
who's the hunter and what's his equipment? You go figure out yourself~
5. Razor Coatings
-Usage: increase melee attack's power (and upgrades "green sharpness" to
"blue sharpness" for bouncing), and changes the close range shooting's range
multiplier from 1.0X to 1.3X (you see big blasts when shooting close up).
However, useless once you're at the bow's actual optimum range or further.
-Cost: 27z (540z for 20)
-Maximum amount you can carry: 20
-Mix recipe: Empty Bottles + Knife Mackrel for 1~2 coatings (you can
carry 20 of them)
A new coating introduced in P2ndG/FU. Unfortunately it does not serve an
actual purpose other than just being around, probably exist just for the sake
for new players who can't handle range multipliers (I only use them while
attacking the cracks on Jhen Mohren's back close up in P3rd...). As for melee
attack? How about sticking to the old good power coatings?
Yes, in other words, this is something you will never need to touch in your
entire life.
6. Paint Coatings
-Usage: painting monsters, obviously
-Cost: you can't buy them
-Maximum amount you can carry: 99 (just like paintballs)
-Mix recipe: empty bottles + paintberry for 1~2 coatings (once again
much like paintballs)
Another useless coating. Okay, you can shoot it really far to paint a monster,
but don't forget about the time you use to equip it (although Auto-reload cease
the motion for coating application, but you shouldn't even have Auto-reload for
bows in the very first place). Well, you can melee the coating on and cost you
nothing, but still...
Honestly, just stick to your plain old paintballs. If you worry about running
out, just plant paintberries in Pokke Farm.
* * *
< Bow-Related Skills >
So with the right equipment you will kill things faster. Now pair them up with
complementary skills, and things will move even much smoother!
For the purpose of the guide, it will only cover skills appliable to gunners.
[Category I: Attack Skills]
a) Rapid Shot Up
Increase rapid arrow attack by 10%. Will activate on rapid charges regardless
of charge level. This will be your major damage boost especially on G rank
bows.
b) Pierce Shot Up
Increase pierce arrow attack by 10%. Same as above.
c) Scatter Shot Up
Increase scatter arrow attack by 30%. Works for all scatter charges. Armors
and accessories counters focus (minus fastcharge points), so you won't pair
this up with focus until very late at the game.
d) Capacity Up
Opens hidden charge level. Works on every single bow except for those having
innate 4th charge.
e) Straight and True
Basically Rapid Up + Pierce Up + Scatter Up.
Sounds great, but consider you need full White Fatalis Z (or abuse Torso Inc
armors) and you won't have enough slots to fill a 10-slot skill (so no focus),
it is rather useless. If you want to make the armor for whatever reason, make
the Blademaster version instead.
[Support Skills]
a) Focus
Decreases charge time by 1/3. However, there are other uses, the major one is
stamina management, and increase productivity of elemental bows (10% of
elemental damage boost won't outdo more hits over time).
While it is a great skill, but you should determine whether you qualify to this
skill yet or not. Overcharging will render this skill useless.
Before you using focus, practice shooting arrows as soon as you reach your
desired charge level (starting from 3, then 2 if you need said charge). If you
can do it consistantly, it's time to include this skill.
b) Runner
Decreases stamina drainage by 1/3.
c) Power/Poison/Paralysis/Sleep/Razor Coating Add
Enables a bow to use a specific coating otherwise cannot equip without the
skill. But honestly, stick to the bows that can use the said coatings unless
you really need it (like adding poison to Wing Bow or adding sleep to Wolf Bow,
as both bows already have increased effect of the original status coating they
use, then it would make sense).
d) Reload Speed+/- (3 levels each)
Speeds up or slows down the action of coating application. Higher level makes
it faster/slower.
Quite useless for archers. I have posted a comment in the past regarding this
about bowgunners vs. archers in terms of the usefulness of reload skills...
-My point was bowgunners need to reload all the time, while archers only
need to apply coatings a few times in the entire quest. Yes, so why
bother if you are sticking to the bow?
e) Auto-Reload
Coating is automatically equipped just by selecting it.
Totally useless for archers for the same reasons above. Pick other skills
instead
f) Ammo Deviation Up/Down
Affects how well arrows stay on track over range. Mostly affects rapid bows.
This is another useless skill as arrows begin to really lose track after the
optimal spot. So just keep your distance and you should be fine, or stick to a
bow that shoots rapid 5 instead.
g) Bullet Limit
Ensures maximum numbers of coatings turn up in each mix.
Applies to all coatings you use, very useful if you're doing a long quest if
you do not have the best setups yet.
* * *
< Stamina Management >
Since you need to charge the bow, and charging the bow requires stamina, so you
must learn how to use your stamina efficiently in order to success using a bow.
Basically, the stamina bar drains a lot when you use a bow--as you run, charge,
roll or back hop... You just gotta watch yourself!
Since it is impossible to tell hunters what to do exactly and sometimes
situation calls, these are just tips and guidelines to help you reserving your
stamina, not exactly a Bible.
Things you can do to reserve your stamina:
-Keep your eyes on the stamina bar at ALL times. Forget about how TA videos
try to hide the health and stamina bars (not to mention they ALWAYS use mega
juices, so stamina management is not their concern), it is YOU that see the
bars for yourself, so who cares?
-Bring stamina recovery items. It does not mean you need to bring Power/Mega
Juices at all times. What it means is it is a good idea to keep your stamina
at 150 most of the time.
-Avoid overcharging the bow. It will only drain your stamina until you have no
more strength to hold it longer. Practice so you can shoot your arrows and hit
somewhere once you reach charge 3 consistently.
-Try not to run away from large monster for too long. The only purpose of
panic running is so that you can perform superdive. You can save the running
(R button) for the last second until you need to dive.
-Use Focus armor skill. Less charge time = less stamina used in the process,
it's that simple. Just make sure you are don't overcharge without it before
moving on using focus.
-Release arrows or roll away ASAP if you find you are still charging the bow
but not going to shoot anything. Normally you can just release the arrows, but
rolling can save whatever coatings you have equipped.
Things to avoid:
-Bring power/mega juices at ALL quests. While it is totally understandable for
specific quests (such as soloing Gaoren urgent at the Town), but all quests?
You need them for dromes and Yian Kut-Ku? That's a really long way to go...
-Using runner skill, enough said. Using it means you will never learn it.
-Moving your character around with rolling. Since you got all the mobility you
need, so why bother?
* * *
"Powerful charge attacks and tons of variation in flight types, not to mention
a distinctive attack style and crafting process. It is no wonder Bows are such
a mysterically revered weapon. Don't you want to rise to the challenge
yourself?"
~Tools of the Trade - Ranged Weapons (Bow)~
Hopefully you get the hang on the different charge types and understand what to
choose depends on what you need.
* * *
<Regarding to Damage Calculation >
Although damage calculation is a critical skill in order to find out whether
particular weapon and armor skills works with a monster or not, but since this
guide is about learning to use a bow in the practical sense, please refer to
Boldrin's Bow Damage Guide for details, as he has covered the topic
extensively.
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Section 5:
~Skills and Equipment Selection~
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There are two facts that will disappoint fans: the best bow sets will almost
always involve Rajang parts, especially if you want focus, therefore impossible
to obtain unless you're at HR9 (unless you got helpers or cheat), and all the
best bow sets are mixed sets. The only two good full sets are Puppet Master
Shin for raw rapid bows and Silver Sol Z for pierce bows. Sorry to fashion
divas!
Fortunately, bow is Rajang's bane, so it should not be too bad.
< Part I: Armor Sets>
While some of the armor sets have each armor posted, however, some of them will
only have skills posted because too many combinations are available. Please
download program "Athena's A.S.S. (Armor Set Search)" to find out what's
suitable for you.
[Low Rank]
Okay, not impressive at this level... Your main focus would be getting either
one of these:
-Rapid/Scatter/Pierce up
-Attack Up (mostly small to medium, for low rank, they are major damage boost)
-Elemental Attack Up
So basic, any combination of the 2 of them will last you the entire rank. No
special setup necessary.
Good early armor sets (copied and pasted from my previous post on Gamefaqs,
easy-to-farm versions are posted):
Rapid - Battle Cap, Hunter, Battle, Hunter, Battle will give you rapid up
and AUS
-for low rank, it's probably the best supplement attack skill you
can get, and stick to Tiger Bow as soon as you get it - the
upgraded low rank version is good enough for high rank. This armor
set is the earliest decent bow set you can get in very early of the
game, and you won't even need to farm. Get this as soon as you can
(but the bow comes in some time later).
Pierce - full ceanataur, or Cean cap, Rathalos, Rathalos, Rathalos and Cean
legs to add AUS
Scatter - Ioprey Cap, Genprey, any 2-slot armor, Rathalos, Rathalos would give
you pellet up and AUS
Element - Kut-Ku Helm D, Kut-Ku D, Rathalos, Kut-Ku D, Kut-Ku D gives EAU
and AUM
Anything focus - you won't really need it until G rank unless you're bow only,
strictly for Lao and Gaoren (especially latter in Town, and
you'll STILL need adrenaline+2 or heroics). Instead of
wasting time to farm Kushalas at low rank, just move on to
high rank.
[High Rank]
Not much of a difference than in low rank, however, containing 2 of the above
suggested skills is now a must for this rank. Top it up with Reckless Abandon
to spice things up.
Good high rank skills combinations (no weapon slots needed):
1. Rapid Up + AUL or Rapid Up + Focus
2. Focus + Pierces Up + AUS (requires Kushala Snarl S) or upgrade to AUM
with a 2-slot bow
-note: focus will benefit elemental bow's output because the attributes
aren't that high yet
3. Scatter Up + AUL
4. Rapid Up + EAU + RA+1 (upgrades to RA+2 with a 2-slot bow)
[G rank]
Alrighty... Now you're up there at G rank... It is when you should get
serious about getting something decent. You won't get anything impressive at
this point yet, but you should be able to get something that would last you
until the highest Hunter Rank.
[HR7]
The good old high rank sets are good enough for here... Just don't die.
[HR8]
Not much going on either... You may swipe your fragile armor into G rank
armor, or upgrade one skill or two of what you already have...
However, there is one strategy to overcome bad armor skills selection, and
that's...
~Sleep Bombing~
This is it! If your bow lacks power? Just use the good old bombs. The trick
is to abuse the 3X attack multiplier for the attack that wakes up the monster.
Basically, you use sleep coating to put the monster the sleep, place LBB+
beside them, then detonate the bombs by shooting the bombs (or whatever method
you like, but the arrows are the most economic). Then rinse and repeat.
Please keep in mind that even if you place 2 bombs at the same spot, only one
of them will counted for the 3X multiplier.
As for the armor sets, please refer to specialized armor sets below.
[HR9]
Yup. As mentioned above, you NEED to be HR9 to get the best armor sets...
sometimes it's only because of the gems!!
Anyway, this is when mixing armors get the most fun~
~Rapid~
Even at the highest rank, you'll still need to select your shot type. You
can't escape this fate if you choose to be an archer. As usual, rapid is your
basic shot type and will be covered first.
1. Full Pupper Master Shin
Skills: Focus, Rapid Up, Stealth, Dragon Defense+5, any 10-point skills (and
the negative skill that comes with the gems, if you have a slot in the bow, you
can neutralize it by putting the counter gem in the bow)
This is probably the first rapid set you should be getting. You might thought
"just Rajang huh? It's not that hard!" as bow is Rajang's bane. But
unfortunately, all the dark looking pieces require G rank Kushala scales. So
if you're doing solo, you'll have to kill the HR8 Lao Shan Lung first (meaning
you'll also need to clear all G*1 and G*2 epic quests).
2. Barrage Piercings + Puppet Master Shin + Malkuva Z
Skills: Capacity Up, Focus, Rapid Up, Item Usage Increase
Setup (no weapon slot needed):
Barrage Piercing
Puppet Master Shin (StrongShot jewelX2)
Makluva Z (RapidCharge jewel)
Puppet Master Shin (StrongShot jewelX2)
Makluva Z (StrongShot+)
Okay guy, so look at this one... You get capacity up with it!! The only
catch? You'll need to do some fishing along with getting Barrage Piercing,
which is done by completing all 50 battle trainings (5 weapons per 10
monsters). But don't worry, these trainings are all about basic tactics. Just
observe how others kill monsters with these other weapons, practice, and you
should be able to get it.
Best paired with bows with rapid in both charges 3 and 4 (Exterminator Bow and
Courageous Hope series), a MUST for Akantor Bow!
3. Pre-Exterminator Bow II Rapid Armor Set
Skills: Focus, Rapid Up, Attack Up Medium (no slot needed)
Ideal Bow: Wolf Bow
This is designed for those who have reached far enough, yet doesn't have enough
luck for the Big Elder Dragon Jewel for the Exterminator Bow II (the first BEDJ
should be spent on Akantor Chaos Bow so you can kill Elder Dragons more
effectively). Its Poison Coating Add will make poisoning monsters easier.
~Pierce~
Pierce bows are really useful for those monsters that are very large or long,
or have concealed weakpoints. But for pierce bows, you only need *one*
skills combination, elemental bow or not.
Skills: Focus, Pierce Up, Attack Up Large
That's it. This is your almighty pierce bow set as long as your bow is
reasonably strong enough. Elemental bows with pierce at charge 3 will be
benefited more by these skills.
The downside? You'll need to farm Rathalos Heavenlies for at least 3 Silver
Sol Z armors for this to work. The best versions go like this (so you can use
some of these armors for other armor sets). Just look at how the armors are
shared together...
0-slot version: 1-slot version (can't be searached
with Athena's A.S.S.):
No weapon slot needed 1-slot bow (Pierce jewel)
Kushala Snarl S (ShortChargeX2) Golden Hair Tie Shin (ShortChargeX2)
Silver Sol Vest Z (Pierce jewelX2)
Silver Sol Guards Z (Pierce jewelX2)
Silver Sol Coat Z (RapidCharge jewel)
Diablo Leggings X (1 Attack, 1 Pierce) Diablo Leggings X (Fierce jewel)
Difference between them would be defense. The combination with Golden Shin
plus Armorcharm+Talon will push the defense to 400! Nothing will get in your
way with this armor!
~Scatter~
For scatter, you will probably need more hunting skills than armor skills.
Regardless, there are 2 very useful setups for scatter bows.
1. Heavy Attack Scatter Set
Skills: Focus, Scatter Up, Atack Up Small or Reckless Abandon+1
The only scatter bow set that contains speed and power. Choose between AUS or
RA+1 depending on your affinity luck.
2. High Grade Earplugs Scatter Set
Skills: HGE, Scatter Up, Evade+1
This is mazereon's anti-Diablos pellet LBG set, also exclusively used against
Diablos.
[Specialized Armor Sets]
These armor sets are specially tailored for specific monster, but they are also
very effective against them. Some of them have only one combination. Let's
look at them.
1. Anti-Fatalis Bow Set
Setup:
Barrage Piercings
Lava X (RapidCharge Jewel)
Hermitaur Z (fill slots Bombardier Jewels)
Lava X (fill slots with Bombardier Jewels)
Torso Inc
Skills: Capacity Up, Focus, Guts, Bomber
This is the only setup that requires no weapon slot. It is designed to pair
with Akantor Bow and Dragon Bow Earth series. Especially tailored for Crimson
and White Fatalis' Armor Mode and prevent random one shots. Beware Crimson is
far more dangerous because the heat will kill you if cool drink's effect is
gone right after Guts skill's activation. Available only at HR9.
2. Dragonhead Harp Set
i) Guts version (3-slot elemental bow needed... wait, that's DHH!!)
Skills: Capacity Up, Focus, EAU, Guts (as mentioned above, 3-slot bow needed,
making this set exclusively designed for this bow.
ii) Evade version
Skills: Capacity Up, Focus, EAU, Evade+1 (possible with a 2-slot bow)
This set is targeted toward weter-weak monsters, especially Black Gravios. It
is capable to kill the full HP version in rough 16 minutes with only 50 power
coatings and felyne meal. Choosing between Guts and Evade+1 depends on how
well you can roll roars with Evade. You'll need Barrage Piercings though.
Both available only at HR9 (and so does Gravios).
3. Sleep Bombing Sets
Choice of bow: Wing Bow IV, as the armor sets are only available at HR8, and
this bow's final upgrade is at the same rank, making them the perfect match.
They will help you to clear all G rank Epic Quests.
i) Offense-oriented
Skills: Bomber, Rapid Up, Bullet Limit, AUM
It's what it's said on the tin... An armor set built based on Rathalos X armor
that contains Bomber for the big punch, Rapid Up and Attack Up for raw damage
output, plus more coatings to push more sleeps and power coatings. You can
upgrade Attack Up Medium to Large, but you'll need a Rathalos Heavenly Scale
for the Cap (you'd better save it for Silver Sol Z armor).
ii) HGE version
Skills: Bomber, AUM, HGE
Still paired with Wing Bow. However you lose most of your offensive skills for
trading into HGE. You get the most benefited only against Diablos.
3. Anti-Elder Dragon Survival Set
Bow: Akantor Chaos Bow (as this is the only dragon bow that has both rapid
charge and a weapon slot; if you really don't get luck on the jewels, the high
rank version still does okay job)
Skills: Capacity, Focus, Evade+1, Guts
Given the nature of general Elder Dragon battle (they flee after certain
amountof damage is done on them), that means you do not need to maximize
damage output, but instead to survive the battle. Specifically designed for
HR9 Elder Dragons, you will still be able to kill one in 2 quests (only those
who are very skilled can kill one in a single quest, regardless of weapon
type).
4. Extreme Defensive Set
Skills: Focus, Evade+2, Evade Dist Up
The ultimate evade set. But since it is heavily based on evasion, you may want
to avoid using it for quests full of durable monsters.
<Part 2: Bow Selection>
Just like armor, you do not need to make every single bow in the game to get
to the end. In fact, it is *wise* to avoid crafting some of them to save you
zennies, materials, and the frustration (and probably regret) after you created
it...
[Low Rank]
<Bows you should get>
a) Hunter's Bow
More like "bow you already have". You start off with this. There is no
denying you will stick to it for a little while before you make better bows.
b) Kut-Ku Bow
Your fire bow of the rank. If you're not comfortable bow for using scatter at
this point, use it only against Blangonga for breaking his fangs.
c) Blango Bow and Sonic Bow
Your ice and thunder (respectively) rapid bows for the rank. Their raw powers
are as good as Hunter's Bow, and you can just skip your crappy bow as soon as
you get sufficient upgrades.
d) Daimyo Warbow
Unlike the other elemental bow, this one is pierce. It is your major anti-
Gravios family bow.
e) Dragon Bow Halo
This is the pierce bow of the rank (especially if you get it early). Your
firstElder Dragon bow (although you won't be fighting the said Elder Dragon
until MUCH later and this bow is just made of scrapes of materials grown on
it). It is the ealiest useful one you can craft at low rank, and will turn
Plessy into sashimi. The catch is you'll need to send Trenya for Dragonwood
by giving him Pokke points...
f) Dragon Bow Earth
Probably the second Elder Dragon bow you'll get. Maybe or maybe not your first
dragon bow. Scatter is a little weird for new archers, but it's here. Its
true beauty will shine after both it and you grow to the fullest.
e) Prominence Bow
Finally a even more decent pierce bow.
g) Tiger Bow
Don't let the -30% affinity deceived you. It is in fact he best raw rapid bow
you can get for the rank. Keep upgrade it and it can guide you through high
rank. Enough said.
<Bows that are okay to craft>
a) Blue Blade Bow
A raw pierce bow. It actually has higher raw than the others bows (including
future upgrades). You just don't really need it and it requires farmingShogun
Ceanateurs (the task is a pain in the ass for archers because it is essentally
bullet resistent).
b) Black Bow I
Dragon pierce bow. Useful element, but bow of its raw and elemental attribute
are scale lower than than any other bows of the same rank. Not exactly costly
to craft whatsoever (you only need some Elder Dragon Bones for its materials).
However, upgrading it to BB II is costly (needs an Elder Dragon Blood). One of
its final upgrade is one of the best raw rapid bow in the world. However, the
cost of crafting the said bow in high rank form is actually less expensive than
upgrading it form there, so YMMV...
<Bows to avoid>
a) Wild Bow (made from Conga materials because the lack of power coatings and
low potential in future upgrades).
b) Tuna Bow (scatter bow with paralyze add, avoid this purely because of poor
upgrade path. Better save your tunas for the G version)
* * *
[High Rank]
<Bow you should get>
a) Just upgrade almost everything you already have in low rank. That refers to
Kut-Ku Bow, Blango Fur Bow (later Abominable Bow), Sonic Bow, Daimyo Warbow,
Dragon Bow Halo (later DB Solar), Prominence Bow (your anti-Lao and Gaoren
bow).
b) Tigrex Whisker (yes, I NEED to specify this)
It is in fact the upgrade of Tigrex Bow at high rank. It is specifically
mentioned because of the other upgrade path into Hidden Bow is the one you
need to avoid. Scroll down and see why.
This bow is enough to guide you for early G rank until you get much better
bows (sadly, this is the last upgrade you'll needly for this bow).
c) Courageous Hope
Probably your third Elder Dragon Bow you can get. In fact, it is very easy to
craft and there is no reason why you shouldn't include it in your collection.
Although its elemental department is so crappy, but from the point of you
getting our hands on it, it will become your MAJOR anti-Blangonga bow. Use it
against him and amusement ensures.
Sidenote: you guys are lucky. This bow is always scatter across the MH
universe except the portable series. Yes, Kut-Ku Stave is also scatter all
over the place. Sure Capcom hates fire bows *that* much.
d) Wing Bow
That's it!! Your ultimate sleep bow. Although its raw is a bit low, but its
true beauty is its capability of letting you doing more sleep bombings than
any other bow.
e) Akantor Bow
Another bow you should really get. Okay, it's been toned down seriously from
Freedom 2, but doesn't mean it has lots its purpose. In fact it is still
your most useful dragon rapid bow. You'll just need armor skill Capacity Up to
unlock its full potential.
<Bows that are okay to craft>
a) Exterminator Bow I
Yup, it is just one upgrade before THE rapid bow. Believe or not, you won't
need its high rank version. It would just sit there until that final
upgrade.So if you don't want to make it at high rank, you don't need to.
<Bow you should avoid>
Hidden Bow
Just the exact opposite of Tigrex Whisker, you get 50% affinity with this,
and you can use all types of coatings. However, its damage output is so low
and because actual damage done by this bow is laughable comparing to them once
you do your math, don't waste time for this and just make the high rank update
for Tigrex Bow II into Tigrex Whisker instead. AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS!!
* * *
[G rank]
a) Exterminator Bow II
This is it! This is your ultimate raw rapid bow. Who cares if you can't use
status coatings? Get Capacity Up to unlock its full potential.
b) Wolf Bow
The unlucky hunter's ultimate raw rapid bow. Has poison add.
c) Gale Horn Bow/Diablos Kings Bow
The ultimate raw pierce bow for the final upgrade. Yes, it can't use anything
other than power coatings, but once again, who cares?
d) Akantor Chaos Bow
Another one that needs to be specified. Has rapid at charge 3, it makes the
best standard anti-Elder Dragon bow. Make sure you spend your VERY FIRST
Ukanlos Stone on it!!
e) Purple Emperor
Your one and only water rapid bow. In fact, it is just the final (and awesome)
upgrade of Daimyo Warbow. Gravios family, Red Khezu and Rathalos will cry in
front of it.
f) Dia Sorute Arrow (if anyone can translate it accurately, please let me know)
THE fire pierce bow is right there! ...except you'll need 4 Dengeki 2G
Tickets.
So what do you do? Play via Ad-Hoc Party or Xlink Kai with people who have
P2ndG to get this ticket. You won't even need to deal with the Devil Diablos
for the tickets, just the Khezu + Kirin event epic quest.
<Bows that are okay to craft>
a) Sonic Bow IV
Yup. The final upgrade is simply subpar to those of other elements. Too bad
it is also true for its G weapon counterpart...
b) Khezu Bow
I first thought this bow is quite powerful, but turns out I was wrong. Yes,
it has high elemental attribute and I can kill a G rank Gold Rathian in under
20 minutes, but so what? The unfortuate fact that its charge 3 is at scatter
means it's going to be overshadowed by Dragon Bow Chaos. Also, final upgrade
can be annoying for some people (requires Garuga Silver Pelts).
c) Rajang Bow
Okay, so you think a bow made out of the infamous Saiyan is great? Turns out
it's not. Its poor raw and no-so-great elemental attribute (only better than
Couragous Hope) means its performance is going to be subpar. Although its 3rd
and 4th charge are rapid and pierce respectively, but that can be replaced by
Ancient Dragonwood Bow (the shot types of those charge levels are just the
opposite). If you have spare Rajang materials, by all means craft it. But
if you're dedicated in armor set creation, you'll find yourself making more
Rajang armors than you think.
d) Ukanlos Bow
This bow is... let's say overshadowed by awesome (Exterminator Bow II). This
is when negative affinity burdens a weapon (384 with 30% affinity vs. 432
with-40% affinity). It can only beat Exterminator Bow II's charge 4 only if is
accompanied with AUM and the monster it's dealing is weak to ice...
Of course, you don't need the Barrage Piercing for its charge 4... It's just
that only its charge 4 (borderline charge 2 because it's also rapid) is
useful... And yet you need to use an Ukanlos stone...
<Bow you should avoid>
Glorious Victory II
2 reasons why you should avoid this even it is rapid at charge 3 andhas high
dragon attribute.
-It can't use power coatings.
-The levels of its rapid charges are too low (level 2 for charge 3 = 2 arrows;
level 3 for charge 4 = 3 arrows), therefore its actual elemental output isn't
that high. Use 50 power coatings with the other 2 dragon bows, and both of
them will outdo this one.
Do you want to spend 3 BEDJs on a crappy bow, or 2 on TWO much useful bows?
You decide.
-The third one can be spent for Daora's Sagittarii. It's still going to be
more productive than Glorious Victort II.
[Post Uka]
a) Black Bow G
Finally, the dragon pierce bow comes back just as strong as any other elemental
bows of the same rank. In fact, its low cost (Commendation S + Big
Wyvern Stones + Black Pieces + Pokke Tickets??) already justifies its
production.
b) Diablos Horn Bow G
If you don't have any luck to farm Stout Black Diablos Horns (but you get the
other), this is your luck day! With only 10% less affinity and 10 less points
of defense increase than the regular G rank version you can craft one of the
most powerful pierce bow (at charge 3). The game is generous by giving you the
weapon slot just like the same coloured weaker version, making skills mixing a
bit easier (check out the 1-slot version G rank pierce set to maximize its
potential).
c) Daimyo Warbow G
Your answer for an ideal anti-Black Gravios if you're afraid to get personal
and can't stand 4th charge or can't get Barrage or White Fatalis armor. This
one has weaker element than Dragonhead Harp III, but you can shoot pierce at
charge 3 to balance things out. Just like its lower rank counterpart, it can
use all status coatings for your advantage (poison and sleep bombing).
d) Tuna Bow G
Finally this is the version that's worth it. Its raw power is actually still
low, but the fact of it containing 3 slots would make armor mixing easier if
not more interesting. Personally I don't use it at all, but I've seen its
potential against G rank Diablos on YT videos.
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Section 6:
~Frequently Asked Questions~
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Q: The monster guide section is way too long... So in general, shat shot type
should I use?
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Depends on the monster. Basically pay attention to its weakpoint's size and
location.
If it's small such as a head or the feet? Use rapid.
If it's very huge or long, choose pierce.
If its weakpoint is huge, or you're engaging the monster at all times?
Scatter.
Of course more than one shot type can be used on each monster. Get familiar
with different shot types first, then use whatever you feel the most
comfortable with.
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Q: Is capacity up necessary?
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Depends, unless you're using the Dragonhead Harp. This bow DEPENDS on it (who
wants to use the level 1 rapid on charge 3 of a bow that has high
elementalattribute but crappy raw?) and is one of the major Black
Graviosslayer. Theother one would be Akantor Bow because it unlocks its charge
3rapid (which isthe charge level that should be used the most frequently in the
very firstplace), along with its decent raw + element + shot level (rapid 5 in
finalform!) + affinity (+40% everyone), it makes the perfect dragon rapid bow.
As for the other bows, it's the best idea to use something that has the very
same shot type between charge 3 and charge 4 for flexibility's sake
(ex:Exterminator Bow or Courageous Hope lines for rapid and any Shogun bows for
pierce). Of course, if the charge 4 of any bow would do far more damage than
any other bow choice (better than charge 3 by DoT and charge 4 by DoS), by all
means to do that.
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Q: If charge 4 already depends on the situation, how about charge 2?
..............................................................................
Charge 2's best application is for elemental damage. Ideally for pierce
(youget 5 hits start from charge 3, easily getting 5 hits per charge).
However,its application is rather limited so it's best to experiment with it.
Of course, if a monster is fleeing, then just release the arrows and just let
them hit it. Hitting something is better than nothing is done.
Essentially, the usage of every charge level is situational-based. It's just
that using charge 3 would be consider under normal condition.
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Q: Is pierce just good for huge monsters? How about if I have minions but my
main target is something huge?
..............................................................................
Yes, you can kill small mosnters with pierce with clean shot. The only catch
is the first hit or second (if its prey-sized) staggers the monster and sends
it flying, the all the hits will land on the poor monster. Unfortunately, it
is not possible in P3rd.
You can always use the melee attack, by the way.
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Q: What does it take forever to kill a monster?
..............................................................................
Many reasons. The general ones would be poor skills selection, wrong shot
types, wrong element, and bad stamina management (then you can't shootanymore),
and spamming the wrong charge level (aka charge 1).
Other critical reasons would be charging for too long (therefore decreases
attack frequency) and range management. Although range multiplier is
introduced in every single bow guide, but this factor is overlooked by many,
many people, especially ignorant noobs!
Another main reason is monster manipulation. Both GS and hammer can stagger
monsters easily and really skilled hunters can control when to stagger the
monster (hammer can even knock them out!) while archers are shooting monsters
while they are still acting like nothing hit them until that stagger comes.
Not to mention staying mid-ranged instead of close-ranged to monsters would
alsoaffect how they act (prime suspect being Tigrex).
I have already did an Excel file comparing all monster weakpoints (exclusion
exist as some "weakpoints" are not reachable for melee hunters, such as
Lao'sback, or Kut-Ku's torso as attacks would get registered in other parts
instead... in such cases, the most reached body part is chosen instead), and
both the mean and median are similar. Some numbers used for slash hitzones are
mostly appliable for GS users, and some are more favourable to SnS and
SSbecause it's impossible to balance between them.
The same apply for P3rd. There is some minor decrease in terms of melee
output, but those are relatively negligible.
Except Akantor and Ukanlos.
While Akantor and Ukanlos take 25% less impact damage on the head in P3rd,
Akantor takes 62.5% more shot damage before chest opened and 75% after the
chest's destroyed than FU. Ukanlo's case is even more exaggerating... It's
62.5% extra damage taken before chest opened and 133.33% after the chest
is opened!! Also, having the shot weakpoint moved to the head makes the whole
battle much easier (who wants to shoot huge monster's tail and hind legs??)
Guess the best explanation of much faster time between FU and P3rd (excluding
Akantor and Ukanlos for obvious reason) would be bow sets are now on par to
melee sets in terms of getting power boost. In the past, it's either focus or
attack up, but in 3rd, you get both of them with capacity up, along with
Exploiter (but for melee users, they already get sharpness+1, AUL, RA+2/3 in
the same package in FU, while bows don't have the same equivalent), and the
introduction of High-Angled Shot, negating monster's distance and direction
(also, in AT, it's ALWAYS Gocused).
Also monsters don't get KO'd as easily in P3rd as in FU, so less monster
manipulation possible for hammer users.
Of course, people getting more experienced between the instalments also helps.
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Q: I plan to use the bow, should I prepare to farm for power/mega juices
every couple quests?
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The answer is no (the only exception is if you're trying to KILL the Lao Shan
Lung in high rank Gathering Hall in a solo bow only run without adrenaline, or
Gaoren of the same rank even with adrenaline), or if you're doing a TA
(obviously, as waiting stamina to recover = wasting time). Don't bother to put
runner in your skill list, as you really won't need it.
If you don't have the ambition of killing things fast, try the following:
a) Try not to overcharge the bow for too long and too often. Holding it much
longer isn't going to make it much stronger, but instead drain your stamina bar
and make you immobile.
b) Use focus not just for the faster charging, but also take advantage of its
capability of making the stamina bar drain less. Yes, you'll need to avoid
overcharging for this to work.
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Q: Should I use attack up or Rapid Up/Pierce Up/Scatter Up?
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Depends on your bow's raw power. Attack up's boost goes like this...
Small - 10 X 1.2 (bow's weapon multiplier) = 12 points
Medium - 15 X 1.2 = 18 points
Large - 20 X 1.2 = 24 points
And rapid up would be 10% of increase of whatever bow's raw would be. So in
order for the bow to increase the best benefit...
If the bow's raw is...
-under 120 - AUS
-120 to 179 - AUM
-180 to 239 - AUL
> 240 - rapid up
Of course, if you attack up skill is not up to scale, it's better to get Rapid
Up, or even better, both sepecially if you're at lower ranks.
Scatter up is different. Instead of getting just 10%, it's 30%. Why would you
choose "mediocre" damage boost instead of 30%? Of course, if you can't get
your hands on focus along with it (impossible until HR9), just add attack up
along with it.
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Q: What is quick release? Is it the same as focus?
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They are not the same thing. It was discovered by Great Sword users that
releasing the 3rd charge before the charge flash appeared so they can attack
faster. It can be done because the the weapon has reached the charge level
before the emitting the flash. Quick release is to release the charge between
that gap. Just the same thing can be done by bows, and it can easily tested by
using a bow with different shot types between charge levels.
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Q: Why do you insist Hidden/Midnight Bow is useless?
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That is where math kicks in... It's better explain things this way without
words... So here are the actual power each G rank raw pierce bow does (from
weakest to strongest):
Wild Bow G - 336
Power Wild Bow G - 360
Heart Shot Bow III - 336 X (1.125*0.3 + 0.7) = 361.2
Midnight Bow - 324 X (1.125*0.5 + 0.5) = 364.5
Showroom Model - 372 (0% of affinity, however, this one has innate charge 4)
Diablos Horn Bow G - 372 X (1.125*0.1 + 0.9) = 381.3
Diablos King Bow - 372 X (1.124*0.2 + 0.8) = 390.6
If you insist that Showroom Model doesn't use so many types of coatings, but
honestly, if you insist to use status coatings, there are other bows that would
do better job than this.
As for its level 4 charge of rapid 5? How about sticking to Exterminator Bow
II?
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*Bonus*
~Beating Monster Hunter Quest at HR1!~
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Okay... everyone have probably seen those impressive videos of some hunters
clearing the Monster Hunter quest at HR1 (along with HR1 gear, duh) on Youtube
with Hammer. But consider how everyone complains about bows lacking the punch,
and with poor skills for the rank being, how can you even not risk running out
of time?
The answer is... It's POSSIBLE!!!
Not without careful equipment and skills selection, of course.
But before arguing, it is *HR1* equipment AND defence, meaning you can do it
with your actual rank being 1.
* * *
~ Preparation ~
They key of success of this quest is to overcome bow's weak attack... You'll
find the following strategy a little "cheap" because not everything is done
with the bow... But please forgive me given the situation, as I did it without
power or mega juices.
<Weapon of choice>
Dragon Bow Mountain!! (if anyone finds out another HR1 bow that can do this,
please let me know)
<Skills combinations>
Although all the skill sets have many armor combinations, it is really
important to use a Blademaster helm to prevent random one shots:
1. Scatter Up (a MUST for this bow, your first punch), Earplug, Bomber (It is
a defensive set IMO. I cleared the quest with this one.)
2. Scatter Up, Attack Up Medium, Bomber (the more offensive setup)
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< Potentally Possible Setups >
Okay, okay... I was a little ambitious when I attempted the quest... I just
dig my head into the hell hole without thinking much...
Now think about it, Tiger Whisker might work as well because of its higher raw
(however, after including its affinity and getting both bow's respective shot
up skills, Dragon Bow Mountain indeed does more damage, but with more difficult
range management). At least a rapid bow is much easier to manage.
Bow of Choice: Tigrex Whisker
This is the strongest rapid bow for the time being... just stick to it...
Skills Combinations:
Nothing impressive can be done here because the lack of skill points
fromarmors.
1. Focus + Rapid Up (not quite sure if it works, but if the archer can perfect
range multiplier...)
2. Rapid UP + AUS + Bomber (essentially the same setup as the scatter
counterpart)
If I have time, I might test them out myself...
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<Items>
-Powercharm + Poweralon
-These are the only things that are remotely from Gathering Hall, but you
only buy them right there, and never need to touch any GH quests. Forget
about Armorcharms or Talons. You will need all the attack boost you can
get and defence's only purpose is to prevent one shot from full HP
(between 140 to 150).
-BOMBS (your second punch) and mixes
-Means 2 LBB+, 3 LBB, 10 barrels, 10 gunpowders, 10 scatterfishs
-50 Power coatings, 20 sleep coatings, 20 poison coatings
-30 Empty bottles, 20 nitroshrooms, 10 sleep herbs
-Combo books 1-4
-Power seeds
-Fill the rest with potions
-or 2 max potions and a forecaster for the extra 20 power coatings from
the item box)
-or mixes for Ancient Potions (you won't get 100% mix rate, but what the
hack?)
< Felyne Kitchen Receipe >
-Vegetable + meat (duh)
<Ideal Felyne Whim Skills>
-Felyne Temper (more shot damage is always good)
-Felyne Gunpowder (so you can save even more spots and simplifies bomb mixing
process = safer)
-Felyne Status Attack (you won't need this, but if you after you might miss, or
can't get enough arrows just in time, you'll need this)
< Strategy >
1. Overall
Use your resources carefully. Aim to sleep bomb each of them with 2 LBB+ once,
and poison all monsters that come after Rathalos once (kind of pointless to
poison Rathalos as it takes decent dragon damage, therefore no poison coating
mixing necessary and saves you a spot).
In terms of the order of coating used... Poison the monster first then put it
to sleep later. It's because the monsters are very likely to stand around
doing nothing for the first few shots, and you have very limited poison
coatings (20 coatings for 3 monsters) compared to sleep coatings (30+ coatings
for 4 monsters). After all, around 6 shots are needed to activate a status.
2. Rathalos
This annoying guy flies all the time and is potentially your time killer (you
might even need to abord the attempt if he's World Touring too much...).
Shoot all the way, sleep bomb him with LBB+ once and use ALL the bombs (other
than any materials for the other 6 LBB+) when he lands.
Another note for this monster is that he is the only monster that can land you
a guaranteed one shot (rage > roar > charge). Even a raged Tigrex charging at
a hunter wearing an armor set with Rathalos Soul U pieces will NOT result in
one shot if your HP is full at 140 or above.
Try to kill him in less than 8 minutes.
3. Tigrex
It might be Dead Train Express, but in fact it is a fair game. Although it has
higher HP than the other monsters, it can be done by being careful and
persistent. Just move close enough for scatter to do maximum damage while not
getting rolled over. Use the first 50 power coatings on it.
Try kill it with more than 25 minutes left.
4. Narga
Another fair game if you can MOI the majority of its attacks. Otherwise,
nothing special about it.
Use the rest of the power coatings (after mixes) on it. If you have
Forecaster, grab the extra from the item box first then mix the rest.
Try killing it with more than 13-15 minutes left.
5. Rajang
He might be the nightmare for melee hunters, but for archers, he's a joke
(yeah, he can one shot you with some attacks when enraged, but will you even
get hit by him when it happens?). You shoot him the very same way you'd do
with a rapid bow, but stick a little closer, and aim at his torso instead of
the head (so more hits get to him). Once again, persistence and care are your
friends.
It is possible to get more than 2 minutes left if you do not screw up much (my
time was 1:57 left with 2 faints and less than satisfactory performance on
Narga because of my poor dodging skills... so you can see, it's not always
about raw skills).
And that's it! You have done a "Mission Impossible"--Now bow has ensured its
place in the world of Monster Hunter!
PS: This quest wasindeed a "Mission Impossible" to myself. My very first
Monster Hunter quest clear time had time left of 0:00. Yes, ZERO SECOND LEFT!
Now see how mcuh I can do now? Practice indeed makes things improve
significantly, even if not reached to perfection!
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Section 7:
~Final Thoughts~
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"You've got the world within your sights with the Bow! Now show the world what
you've made of: swift justice, straight and true. Aim for the prize with your
exquisite stance and let loose an arrow untethered. This is the true path of a
hunter, meow!"
~Felyne Comrade
From a clueless archer who used pierce bow on a small Conga close up to writing
this whole guide in just 3 years... That's how much I have learned for bows...
Now you have read the whole guide and should have learned more than just the
basics to be successful with the bow. Hope you enjoyed the reading. Now shoot
all the way!
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Section 8:
~Credits~
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MHP2G@Wiki (Japanese) for all of my general information
http://www41.atwiki.jp/mhp2g
Boldrin's Bow Damage Guide (so I won't need to explain how damage works)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/943356-monster-hunter-freedom-unite/faqs/57883
AthenaADP from Minegarde for developing the fine A.S.S.
MHP2ndG Damage Calculator (Jp) lets me know how well weapons do just in seconds
http://wizeweb.net/mhp2gcalc/
And thank you very much for all other archers I have met online and videos I
have seen but forgotten the source!!
Of course, last but not least, CAPCOM for creating this wonderful game!
GameFaqs, for giving me the opportunity of posting this guide!!