-*The Mysterious 'Ghost Town' of GTA3*-
By: Codewiz11 ~ Stephen Kamnik
[email protected]
Tuesday, July 1, 2003
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-OK. Before you read on, this FAQ is mainly for the PS2 version of the
game. Yes the ghost town does exist in the PC version and all of the
information including directions to it and explanation about it is
still the same. But in the PC version you can add patches to the game
which allow you to drive and stand on the ghost town. I already have
pictures of this. But I don't really care about it because it's pretty
much cheating and I only care about the PS2 version and true explorers
and true explorations which do not rely on outside forces... So in
saying that, please don't email me with pictures calling me an idiot
telling me that you can land on the ghost town in the PS2 version. All
pictures of people on the ghost town are from the PC version and I can
tell. Thanks.
-I've been taking e-mails and I will continue to do so, because I'm a
nice guy, but if you ask something along the lines like, "How do you
get to the ghost town?", then I will simply delete your e-mail. If you
have a problem with the directions then that's a different story, but
some people just want me to explain the entire thing, which I will not
do, just read Section 8.
-You can see the Ghost Town without flying there! *Section 5 - Seeing
is Believing*
The Version History is at the bottom of the FAQ so we can get right to
the point!
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*Index:
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1- Introduction
2- What is the 'Ghost Town'?
3- Frequently asked Questions
4- Its Existence
5- Seeing Is Believing
6- Pictures
7- Transportation
8- Directions
9- Conclusion
10- Version (Update) History
11- Notice
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*1 -INTRODUCTION-
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There has been a lot of talk on the internet about the "Ghost Town".
Some people think it is made up and fake. Others are believers. And
others have even seen the Ghost Town themselves. I have nothing to gain
by lying except hundreds of annoying emails, so just read the FAQ and
you will be a believer too.
In this FAQ, I will be talking about the mysterious Ghost Town. I
will prove it exists, show pictures, explain what it is, and even give
directions so you yourself, can explore this secret.
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*2 -WHAT IS THE GHOST TOWN?-
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Ah yes, the ghost town. It is in NO way "Carser" or "Carson City".
"Carser/Carson City" does NOT exist. Don't waste your time. And don't
waste my time by e-mailing me about it either. It simply and
truthfully, does NOT exist in gta3. Ok, with that said I can go on.
The ghost town is a secret island behind Shoreside Vale that was
used in making the first part of the opening cinema of the game. Cool
huh? O well. Anyway... (Only the bank scenes from the opening cinema
are from the Ghost town, the rest with the bridge and everything was
done at like, the real Staunton Island.)
You can't walk around or even land on it because almost all of it is
not solid. (Aw man.) That means, if you tried to land, you would just
go through the ground and most likely crash into the water and drown. A
couple of small pieces of it are solid though, but no one has ever
landed on them and never will, because the pieces are too small.
One little weird thing about the ghost town is that it is just
floating in the air, just above the water.
Remember where you, along with your accomplices, robbed a bank in
the opening cinema? Well the ghost town is where that bank is located.
The 'Liberty City Bank', along with the two securicars and other cars
from the opening cinema, are visible there. There are about four cars
that I can remember and all of them are parked and are not solid. There
are two securicars, a triad truck, and an Esperanto-type car. The ghost
town is not really a whole big 'town'. It is really just one city
street.
That's just a short description of the ghost town. Go there and see
for yourself.
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*3 -FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS-
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***Q: Ok, ok, weirdo. I believe you that Carser/Carson City don't
exist, but what are they? I never heard of them before!
***A: There is a radio commercial on some station, and the woman on the
radio says something along the lines of: "In near by Carson City,
corrupt police commissioner......" This stupid commercial started this
big whole thing and lead little stupid kids to think that now there
really has a near by Carson City. Some people say Carson, other say
Carser. It really doesn't matter because they don't exist. And they are
not the same thing as the ghost town. This should clear up a few
emails.
***Q: What is the "Blue Hell" and/or "The Underworld"?
***A: They are the same thing. It's actually the place under the game!
If you can believe this, if you fly the dodo (I think going there with
the tank is a little hard.) and if you go to the ghost town. There will
be a part behind ShoreSide Vale where the water stops and there is all
blue. If you fly down in there and then pull up a little and fly
straight, then you can fly horizontally with ground of the game, but
you will be underground. (When I say the ground of the game I mean
surface of the game where you walk or drive around like the street or
the buildings.) You can see under everything. You can even fly under
the water too. If you go down too far then you will disappear and then
suddenly reappear in the middle of a street or something. Now there are
other ways of getting down there but I just like to explain this one
because it's easy for me and I'm the one who found it when I stumbled
on the ghost town. Sometimes when you fall too far down in the blue
hell around the ghost town, then you reappear in the car tunnel. And
sometimes when you go to get out you pop on top of the tunnel. You can
then run around on the top of the car tunnel and pop back out onto the
street at the end. If you need any more help or description of the Blue
Hell, then just email me.
***Q: Can I e-mail you anymore?
***A: Sure... But your email must be about at least one of the GTAs,
otherwise I will just delete your email and don't expect an answer. I
have currently cleaned up my e-mail account and am down to just a few
e-mails. If you've already sent an e-mail to me more than like a month
ago and haven't gotten an answer, then I am most likely backed up and
am overloaded with emails. But I always pick a day where I clean out my
inbox and send everyone answers.
If your entire ******* e-mail says only "how do I get 2 the ghost
town?", then I will not answer anymore. I don't see how you can ask
that. If you have my e-mail address, then most likely, you've seen this
FAQ. I could see if you have a problem with the directions, but at
least be descriptive or tell me a little more about what you don't
understand other than ******* saying "how do I get 2 ghost town!?"
****Q: Does Carser/Carson City exist?
****A: NO. They definitely don't. If you want to get 100% just to find
out that some stupid little internet geeks make this up to try and put
some sense of meaning into their otherwise pointless and utterly
meaningless lives....*Takes a breath*....then, by all means go ahead
but you will just be disappointed.
****Q: Carser/Carson City DOES exist you f****** piece of poo! - (he-
he, "poo")
****A: Well, that really isn't a question, but...Go **** off. I'm sick
of explaining this 36.8 billion times! They do not exist! Go outside,
breath in fresh air for God sake. Look at the trees! Trees and grass
outside exist! Carser/Carson City does not! And the ghost town is NOT
Carser/Carson city!
****Q: Do you know about the secret boat, "Ghost Missing"?
****A: Wow everyone is so interested with this stupid boat. So I will
explain it here so you don't have to email me about it. There is a
mission I think on Staunton Island where this guy has a boat. In the
mission, you chase the guy and by the end he crashes into the beach and
gets out of the boat. Follow him on shore and kill him. The mission
will have passed. Now push his boat back into the water and get inside.
The name of the boat is "Ghost Missing". W0W. Isn't that special? No,
not really. The only reason people care about it at all is because this
is the only time in the entire game that you can get this boat. Once
you pass the mission and lose the boat or it explodes then it's gone
for good. Who cares though really it's just a boat? Well are you happy
now. Nice little codewiz11 saves the day again. Say thanks. "Thanks!"
Ok on to the actual point of this FAQ.
***Q: I can't fly. Is there any other way to at least see* the ghost
town?
***A: Yes, I have just discovered, myself, a way to see through walls
with a sniper rifle and see the ghost town. Look at the 'Seeing is
Believing' Section, Section 8.
***Q: Can you land on the ghost town?
***A: No one has and I don't believe that anyone ever will. Most of the
Ghost town is not solid, meaning if you tried to land, say, just in the
middle of the street, you would go right though it. There are a few
spots that are solid: a little bit of a wall, and two trashcans in an
alley and a little bit of ground. And those little solid pieces are
just enough to let us call it an island instead of a mirage or a
hallucination, but so far, those tiny solid spots are not sufficient
enough to land on. But there are always people who will try anything...
myself included.
**Q: Is the ghost town really Carser City?
**A: No, it is a model of a part of Liberty City. *It has the "Liberty
City Bank" there. The Ghost Town is NOT Carson/Carser City.
Carson/Carser doesn't exist.
***Q: Do the blocked-off tunnels at Shoreside Vale lead to ghost town?
***A: No, they don't lead anywhere. If you look in the tunnels, they
turn a little, just so you can't see the back of them, then they just
end. If you fly around the back of Shoreside Vale where the ghost town
is, then you can see that the tunnels just stop. I have pictures of
this on my picture page too. Plus, most of the tunnel isn't even solid.
*Q: Are there people or cars moving around the ghost town?
*A: No. That's why it's called a 'Ghost town', because it is deserted.
There are cars there, but they are parked and not even solid.
**Q: What is at the ghost town?
**A: The Liberty City Bank is the main attraction at the ghost town.
That is where you robbed the bank in the opening cinema. That's about
the only real important part of the ghost town.
**Q: Is there any point of going to the ghost town other than just to
see it?
**A: No, probably not. You can't really do anything there because you
can't land on it. But it's a cool secret place in GTA3, and it is a big
accomplishment to get there, especially by the dodo. Some people think
the ghost town is stupid and pointless but what do you expect? The
makers of the game didn't ever think anyone would ever get there so why
bother making it fun there? And if it wasn't for people like me
exploring and finding this like the ghost town and finding easier ways
to fly then everyone else would be stuck on the ground. So I think you
owe me and others a thank you. But too many kids are too stubborn and
are such babies and think "Oh I would have learned to fly and found the
ghost town on my own even without people like you." Yeah right. You
would have given up with flying in two tries if you never learned from
people like me that it was possible. So people who think like that can
just grow up and leave me alone.
More frequently asked questions will be added regularly.
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*4 -ITS EXISTENCE-
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Though many people deny its existence, the Ghost Town is REAL. There
is plenty of proof such as pictures and many peoples good word that
says it exists. It should not be associated with other rumors (false
statements) such as the Disney Land or Carser City rumor. There is no
Disney Land or Carser City in GTA3.
Though plenty of proof is provided that there is a ghost town in the
game, there will always be people who doubt and people who will never
learn. But that negativity should never stop those explorers of GTA3
from getting to a great secret such as this.
There is NO Carser City. Yes, ghost town. No, Carser City. Yes, ghost
town. NO, and I mean NO Carser City. Say it to yourself a couple of
times. No Carser City. Very good, boys and girls! Here are some reasons
why to say that there is no Carser City.
1) If there was a Carser City in the game, and there's NOT, but if
there was, then why hasn't anyone shown any pictures or proof. Pictures
of other things like the ghost town are so easy to get on the computer,
but not Carser City? Come on.
2) Where are the programming codes in the game files that would have
all of the Carser City stuff? Carser City isn't even really mentioned
in the codes except for the radio commercial.
3) Just because it's on the radio commercial, doesn't mean there's a
Carser City. Both the MM and Pogo the Monkey are on the radio and
neither has been found.
4) Where in the game would something so "big and full of everything"
be? I admit not everything in the game is uncovered yet, but saying
that so many hardcore gamers overlooked something so big? That's an
insult to gamers everywhere. But Carser City is full of something I'll
tell 'ya. The rumor is all full of BS.
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*5 -SEEING IS BELIEVING-
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This is a great new discovery, by me, on how people who cannot fly,
can still SEE the Ghost Town!
What it is, is the ability to see through any walls that you want.
This doesn't just work for looking at the Ghost town, but for looking
inside any buildings or past walls.
Here is how you can see the ghost town without even leaving the
ground!:
What you have to do is first make sure you have a sniper rifle. You
only need one bullet, just so you can use the scope on it. You can get
a sniper rifle anywhere you are if you enter the weapons cheat. The
weapons cheat is R2, R2, L1, R2, Left, Down, Right, Up, Left, Down,
Right, Up.
Once you have a sniper rifle, go to Shore side Vale. Go up to the
road on the top part of the dam. Take that road south to the blocked
off tunnel. The tunnel is in a mountain. Go up the mountain. (When
facing the tunnel, it's easy to go up the part of the mountain to the
left of the tunnel.) Go up the mountain and over and down the hills
back there so that you are almost driving to the Observatory (You
cannot get to the Observatory however, it's not even solid.) Go back as
far as you can until you run into a big wall that stops you from
getting to the Observatory or the ghost town. Now, go up to the wall
(With the sniper rifle in your hands.) And keep running into the wall
so that you are as close to the wall as you can(Not in a car.). Once
you are as close as you can be to the wall, tap Down on the D-pad *once
so that you face away from the wall, but your back is still pretty
close to it. Now hold R1 so that you are looking into the scope of the
sniper rifle. Now (Still holding R1), turn around to the wall using the
D-pad or the Left Analog Stick. Now look down a little bit where there
doesn't seem to be water but is an area of blue. (This is the 'Blue
Hell' or the entrance to the 'Underworld'.) Now look to the right upper
edge of that blue spot and zoom in. If you are looking through the wall
at a good spot, you should see the ghost town. Now, I've noticed that
you couldn't see the middle section of wall or the road, but you can
see a good portion of the ghost town.
And that's it. You can now see the ghost town without even flying
there. The only problem is once you see the ghost town, it will
probably make you want to fly there now.
And remember that you can use my method above to see through any
other walls too.
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*6 -PICTURES-
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Here. I put the pictures on angelfire.com. If too many people try to go
there and the site shuts down for the day or an hour because of
bandwidth problems then oh well. Just wait. Right now I have the ghost
town pictures and explanations up, and I'm now working on adding as
many other pictures that I have too just for your enjoyment. :)
Here is my little site with a link to all of my pictures:
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/gta3pics
Here is the link to take you straight to the ghost town pictures:
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/gta3gt/gtgallery1.html
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As of now, there are two ways of getting to the ghost town. The two
ways are by the Dodo or the tank (Rhyno). They are the only means of
transportation for getting to and from the ghost town.
There are theories of alternative ways to the 'Ghost Town' other
than the dodo or the tank.
What about by Car?
There is NO way of getting to it by car. Not through the tunnels,
not anyway. But you are always free to do whatever you want and try,
but it's impossible.
What about by boat?
First let me just say that even if you could get a boat back to
where the ghost town is, then you really wouldn't be able to like see
much of anything good because it isn't even in the water. The ghost
town is like floating in the air just above the water.
There is no definite answer to this question as of yet but I have
tried and it's just too much hassle with too little results. Though
many people dismiss it right away because of 'invisible walls' or
'unnaturally strong currents', others strive to go farther.
There is a too strong of a current on the tip of the airport runway,
but this is passable. I have passed it by driving the boat onto the
runway and then pushing it the rest of the way down the runway until I
was past the current part, and then I pushed it back into the water
there, jumped in, and drove again. But I soon found out that there is
yet another current almost at the end of the island, right before the
turn to go to ghost town. I have yet to get past that yet, but maybe,
just maybe, you could push the boat on land enough to get past that
current. I have recently tried this with no luck, but it could be worth
the try, and it would take a lot of work.
Now, here's the proven ways of transportation to the Ghost Town.
You could either use the Dodo if you are skilled enough to keep it
in the air long enough, or you can use the tank, which many people find
to be easier, but it involves codes.
To fly the Dodo, find an open stretch of road (preferably the runway
at the airport, but any piece of land that is straight, long, and flat
will do fine.) and hold X and Down (D-pad). When you see sparks coming
from the bottom of the Dodo, let go of the Down button. The Dodo will
fly into the sky, but your real job now, is just to level the plane
with the Down button so you cannot see the red nose of the plane.
Never use the Up button unless you are landing. When the Dodo starts
to dive down, towards the ground, do nothing at all (DON'T pull up!).
The Dodo will catch air again before it hits the ground and you will
just have to level the plane out again. Just continuously level the
plane, until the Dodo just keeps flying straight.
When you want to turn, just TAP in the direction of where you want
to go. It should take a whole bunch of taps and you will only slowly
turn, so plan your turns ahead of time.
And one more thing, just stay away from the Unique Jumps! They
really p*ss me off. They automatically change the camera into Cinema
view and the plane will disappear from your sight and will make it
impossible to fly much longer then that.
To fly the Tank, find an open stretch of road (Any piece of land
that is long, flat, and straight), use the 'Flying cars' or 'dodo
cheat' code, whatever it's called. Turn the turret around backwards and
fire as rapidly as possible while holding down (D-pad). When you gain
enough speed and the tank starts to swerve, let go of the down button,
and the tank will take to the sky. Then just level the tank with the up
and down buttons. Fly almost the same way as the Dodo. Now, I hate
flying the tank unless I absolutely need to use it to get up really
high. Be careful with turning, that's the main thing that I hate about
flying the tank. Tap the button that you are using to turn.
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Here are directions on how to get to the Ghost Town. Click your heels
three times and repeat, "There's no place like the ghost town." Uhh...
sorry, I couldn't resist. Here's really how to get there:
Remember, when you can't land on it, so don't try unless you want to
risk the chance of drowning. Drowning is a bad thing. I will try to
explain as clearly as possible with the use of pictures too.
From the airport runway at Shoreside Vale, facing away from Staunton
Island, fly out to the ocean. Turn right (the opposite of left) and fly
along the shoreline of Shoreside Vale. Make sure you take that right as
soon as possible after taking off from the runway, because if you go
out to sea too far, you and the Dodo will disappear and you will crash.
Follow the shoreline as it turns to the right, behind Shoreside Vale.
You will see a little piece of water kind of in the air jutting out
from the wall. Do not crash into this. If you are too close to it, try
to fly over it and not under it. If you fly under it, it will suck you
up and into that piece of water and you will drown. You should always
be flying over water. Now you will see the water kind of end on the
right. There's big blue spot in the water. This is "Blue Hell" or "The
Underworld". Keep flying straight though and the ghost town should
start to appear as you get closer to it. It will pop up like a pop-up
picture book. Behind Shoreside Vale, you should see the ghost town
right in front of you, hovering just above the water. This is behind
Shoreside Vale and things like the Observatory and the Dam.
And that my friend, is how to get to the ghost town.
I have put the page with pictures back up in Section 6 "Pictures". I
will try and put the pictures up of how to get there when I get a
chance.
Be careful behind Shoreside Vale, because if you go too far out to
sea, the game will freeze and you will have to reset the game. And that
won't be a good thing.
Keep in mind, the ghost town cannot be landed on, so stop trying...
Actually, go ahead and try all you want. Sometimes it's fun to try but
here's warning, it can get frustrating.
That was just the main way of getting to the ghost town. There are
other ways of getting to it, like flying through the hallow mountains
that stretch all the way from Shoreside Vale past Portland, but that
might be for people who have already gotten there.
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Well that's it. That's the Ghost Town. I hope this helped, and I hope
you enjoyed the adventure. It's been fun, but this FAQ is over. Have
fun with the ghost town and maybe I'll see you there. See you next
update!
I'll keep on updating making this FAQ even better, for everyone.
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*10 -VERSION (UPDATE) HISTORY-
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*Versions/Updates
**You are reading Version 1.8.
This FAQ is updated frequently. Every time this FAQ is updated, it
will not be a made as a new version. Only after big adjustments, added
sections, multiple photos, and other updates, will it be considered a
new version.
Version 1.0: (From February 8, 2002 -to- V1.1)?
This FAQ is just getting started. Has plenty of information for you
and it is a good start for the future.
Version 1.1: (In between V1.0 & V1.2)
New version just to let everyone that reads this FAQ that it is
getting updated regularly. This Version should have a better setup and
it should answer some of the regularly asked questions that I get in my
e-mail. 'Frequently asked questions' section added.
Version 1.2: (From February 26, 2002 -to- V1.3)
There was a quick re-wording for more understandable descriptions.
I've been working on a video, but the results I've gotten haven't been
so great, so I'm waiting until I can get at least a halfway decent
video. So, a video may soon be on the way. :) The 'ghost town' pictures
were organized onto one web page. but because of so much interest and
traffic on the page, it continues to shut down and not be viewable. I
have put the pictures on another
Version 1.3: (March 15, 2002 -to- April 6)
During the last version, the ghost town pictures were all put on one
web page, but because of so much interest and traffic on the page, it
continues to shut down and not be viewable. I have put the pictures on
another website and it can be used as a backup if the other one is too
busy for you. And now I am going to give making a video one last try.
Version 1.4: (April 6, 2002 -to- May 11)
I gave up on the page on angelfire.com because it kept on not
showing up and I don't want to dish out money for it. The site at
boomspeed.com is just fine though. I fixed a little problem with the
numbering of the sections. (I had #4 two times I think)
I temporarily stopped taking e-mails because of long backlogs, and
problems with junk e-mails.
Version 1.5 (May 11, 2002 -to- August 7)
A NEW Section is added: 'Seeing Is Believing'. There is now a way to
*see the Ghost town without even flying there!
And I am now taking e-mails once again! E-mail:
[email protected]
Version 1.6 (August 8, 2002 -to- October 22)
I have added some MUST READ Frequently Asked questions! (The new
ones are on the top of the list!) I have also STOPPED taking e-mails!
Unless you are willing to pay $5, then you questions will NO longer be
answered by e-mail. Sorry.
Version 1.7 (October 23, 2002 -to- June 30, 2003)
Yeah, yeah, I started taking e-mails again. Got any good questions
for me? And sorry about the $5 thing, it was just a joke... I have
gotten some takers on that though...
-Version 1.8 (July 1, 2003 -to- Now)
I'm still taking emails but hopefully I've updated this enough that
I won't get as much as I did before. I put back up a picture page! YES!
You don't need to email me for pictures anymore, but email me for any
other questions if you'd like. I added some more Frequently Asked
Questions in Section 3. This might be one of my last updates because I
can't think of anything else to add, but don't be surprised if I update
every year or so.
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*Future Versions/Updates
This FAQ will be added to. Along with more pictures, more details
will appear. Here are some things to wait for in the near future:
-Cure for Baldness...
..I mean..., seriously now...
-This FAQ is dying because I have put everything I ever wanted in this
FAQ... *cries* This FAQ has been a bigger success than I ever imagined.
Not even by the number of people who have read it on the multiple sites
it's on, but by the number of e-mails!
Ok, I'm getting off the point... *Runs away*
And more!...riiiight...hehe.
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*11 -NOTICE-
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This FAQ was made by and is property of codewiz11 (codewiz15)-
(Stephen Kamnik). Copyright 2002 Stephen Kamnik. All pictures in this
FAQ were taken by and are sole property of codewiz11. These pictures
have not been edited in anyway to deceive or falsely lead on anyone. No
one should in any way use this FAQ as their own. These places have
permission directly from me, codewiz11, to use this FAQ on their site.
-Gamefaqs.com
-Neoseeker.com
-Psxcodez.com
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http://www.geocities.com/johnm_gi2
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http://pub66.ezboard.com/bcodewizsgta3gamingboard
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http://www.boomspeed.com/jeffthegamer/index.html
-www.cheats.de
-GamingWorldX.com
**If you see this FAQ on another board or site, please E-mail or IM me.
E-mail:
[email protected]
AIM: Codewiz15
No one is to use this as their own.
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GTA3 'Ghost Town' FAQ
Copyright 2002 Stephen Kamnik ~ Codewiz11
Tuesday, June 1, 2003
Version 1.8
