Lowest Level Possible Challenge FAQ/Walkthrough
& EXP REQUIREMENTS/MECHANICS
This challenge shall be known as LLP (Lowest Level Possible) Game
Added Later: Divided into 2 different challenges -
Lowest Average Level (LAL) and Lowest Level Party (LLP)
Created By: KADFC
First Started Writing This On: Monday, April 26 2004 at 9:31PM
Pacific Time
Finished and Submited First Time To Gamefaqs.com on May 26 2004 at 12:15PM
Pacific Time
Current Version Submitted on July 13 2004 at 8:45PM Pacific Time
Version 1.6 Best View in: Courier New, Size 10, Regular in Text Doucment
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** LLP = Level 8 Cloud
= Level 7 Tifa
= Level 17 Yuffie
** LAL = Level 26 Cloud
Level 28 for Everyone Else, not including Vincient
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Name of the section
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TABLE OF CONTENT
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I. Version Changes
A. Personal Intro
B. Introduction
C. True Understanding of What I'll Be Going Through
D. Understanding My Goals (FACTS)
E. General Tips
F. Experience Points Requirements for Levels
G. Experience Points from Battles
H. Author's Battle Plan
I. GarlandG's Battle Plan
J. Walkthrough/FAQ at the same time
DISC 1
DISC 2
DISC 3
JA. Lowest Level Party Game (LLP) - Mini-Walkthrough
Level 8 Cloud V.S. Special Battle
Preparations for WEAPONS, Ruby and Emerald
The Real Challenge: Level 7 Tifa V.S. Ruby Weapon
The Final Challenge: LLP V.S. Emerald
K. INDEPTH FAQ
KA. Game Challenges Done by Author
L. Other FAQs Used
M. Credits
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Version Changes
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This section was added after I have already finished the 1.0 version of
this FAQ. I decided to add more due to the fact that there were some extra
stuff that I wanted to cover in advance in the amazing capablity that one,
like myself, can do. Like my Level One Game in FFIX. Which everyone didn't
believe in. I will try to do more of that. I like the feel to show someone
the impossible, that they'll even think that you've used a Gameshark, or
something of that nature.
Version 1. This is the first and orginal version. The first disc is detailed
on who gets what EXP and what level they will be. This goes from
the beginning to the end of the disc.
Version 1.2 This version, Version Changes, has been added, with the Lowest
Level Party Game Mini Section. I will include the rest of the
bosses HP. Fixed some typos, I don't want any improper english in
my FAQs. And I fixed a little her and added a little there.
Version 1.4 Added more FAQ, more into Mini LLP section, added Terence's
quotes. Corrected more typos on the way. The things included in
the LLP section are as follows: boss strats due to lower level
than LAL, Level 8 Cloud V.S Special Battle. More will come,
I promise.
Version 1.6 My goal for now is that for Version 2.0 I'll have most of
everyone I want to credit for be credited. I keep on adding
to this FAQ and leaving them out. By 2.0, I'll add a lot to the
credit section. For this version I'll include how to beat Emerald
and Ruby with a LLP Game.
Note to self: Make Battle Plan to obtain the lowest level for all characters
when they join.
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Personal Intro
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The author, me, KADFC, is writing this guide. In my earlier work, I
haven't much to say about my FAQ. But now I've aimmed a higher goal. To
give my every insight. That the reader, you, can inform me on the message
boards or by e-mail and give the parts that I fail in, so that you can
correct my work. I will talk a lot in this FAQ, and I mean A LOT. Just by
reading this FAQ, it can make you go to sleep and keep reading this the
next morning. That is the pleasantness thing any writer wants from their
readers. I will do a lot things in math. So you should be at least good
with basic math. I will do my best to complete this FAQ in less than 6
months or so. This will be my fifth FAQ and I hope I've done well to
present my knowledge in this one. Also, most of my writing will be
typed in paragraph form due to me explaining certain stuff. I'll do
something else, if I feel needed to. Added later, trying not to overdue
this FAQ, after Disc 1, I lower my standard. If I made this too large
of a file, Gamefaqs might not post this one up. After Disc 1, only
strategy will be said and not the exact numbers.
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INTRODUCTION
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I am well aware that there is already a low level faq out there.
But the author of that guide, EDMAN, seems to leave out a few
things that doesn't makes it a True Low Level game. He was the one that
inspired me to write this FAQ/Walkthrough. I'm not saying this
guide is better than his guide or anything to insult him and his
work. The guide that I'm trying to make, doesn't fit all his
descriptions.
His low leveled can be used to:
(I just copied and paste it from his guide)
--> Speed game (finish the game as quickly as possible. You will
probably be at a very low level, so this is useful)
--> No Save Game (very useful strategies for beating the bosses even
if you are in a need of sleep)
--> If you simply want to have fun with this game, and not make it
too easy and beat it as quickly as possible. This is what I really
achieved, as I beat my game at LV30 (for Cloud) and in 16 hours.
But for this FAQ, this doesn't apply to any of those. I don't care
if the challenger wants to beat the game as fast as possilbe. I don't
care if the player is aimming for a No Save Game, I love these by
the way. I've completed one for Final Fantasy FVIII. This guide
is defintly not to make to game fun. That means to get the lowest
level possible, you have to stick with everything I say. If you decide
to go off somewhere and do something in the game that requires you
getting EXP, that's your fault, not mine. Even though Edman's FAQ
inspired me to write this guie, his guide is also the reason that I've
got me so mad. His guide has too many flaws. He writes if everything is
optional and makes the game fun for the player, I don't intend to do
any of that. Seriously, you have to limit EXP. The whole purpose of this
guide is to find every way possilbe to get the lowest level possible
for every character. When I was doing my research on this, I found
out a lot different obstacles that I didn't quite understand. But
thanx to few experts on the boards, I was able to accomplish and
aim for my true goal. The people that helped me do this was:
Terence
Defcon999
Shadow666
GarlandG
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True Understanding of What I'll Be Going Through
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I'm gonna type a lot right now and I hope you can understand of what
I'm thinking about when I'm writing this. First off. I like to say
that people entering in the party, doesn't always get the average
level of who ever is in the party already. You might disagree and
I got the proof to show for it. Cloud was at level 7 after the first
battle against 2 MPs. After that there was the Scorpion Guard. I let
Cloud died and let Barret get all the full 100 exp. Barret has stayed
at level 6 before and after the fight. Here is my main point. The
next person joining is Tifa. When I got her, from my calcuation she
should be at level 6 or 7. Because 6 plus 7 is 13, then divide 13 by
2 is 6.5. But when I got Tifa though, guess what level she was at?
Four. I couldn't believe it. Before I keep on doing more research and
start diving the exp up, I first must best solve what level they would
join in if I keep this up.
Instead, each character joining has an average level, plus or minus a
certain mod number, determine by who the character is when he/she joins.
Experience Points (EXP) are the enemy of this challenge. Getting too much
of it, isn't the way of this game. I will try to limit it as much as
possible for the challengers.
Active Party are the ones that you use to fight the boss. In every case
They'll get 100% of the exp listed
Inactive Party are the ones that you don't use to battle with. As long as
they have joined Cloud's party once, they'll become this party, even if
they are no longer selectable anymore. This party will get 50% of what
the Active Party would get. You must remember this because this applies
to some really good places, it makes you wonder why you weren't writing
this FAQ instead of little ol me.
The only battles that you have to worry about is the Boss Battles and the
forced battles. There are a certain number of forced battles thay you must
do. If I didn't say it was avaliable or if it isn't listed here, you
probably messed up and got into a force battle by accident. These do
appear if you aren't too careful. About the E-Skill. I'll tell you when
the appropriate times are for you to get them and I'll follow by an
explanation of why.
During force battles and Boss battles, there is only one way for a
character to not get any EXP at all. They must be in the active party
and they must be KOed. Besides this way, there isn't anymore. So I'll
use this strategy to my manipulation.
In the EDMAN FAQ, it said to use E-Skill. I'll use it too, but you will be
amazed on how much I limit this stuff. Why I limit this thing is because
getting E-Skills requires you to win the battle, meaning getting EXP. I
only want one move out of all of them and that is Chocobuncle. Even more
skillful, I want to require that move without ever getting Lvl 4 Suicide.
I haven't done it yet, but hopefully I got a way. Added Later: I did not
get the Chocobuncle at all, rather, some other useful ones instead.
EDMAN mentions the Aeris Exploit. I won't ever use that. You know why?
I found a flaw in it. When you are trying to level up materia, the
inactive party will get 50% of it as well, making them level up.
EDMAN said that you'll need a lot of gils to buy HP Plus's and that if
you did have that much money you would need to require to fight battles.
I, on the other hand, have found a way to get pass this. It will be long
and boring, but since the main purpose of this game is to require the
lowest possible level. Nothing can stand in my way of obtaining the
lowest, no matter how long it takes me. This idea comes from using
the Steal materia. In my first two games I've discovered this trick to
get more money than the battles offer. Basically you steal Ethers, my
first place to steal this was at the Train Graveyard, one it the first
places after you have got the Steal materia in the sewers. Each Ether
can be sold to give you a profit of 750. The HP Plus materia cost 8000
each, just think of how many Ethers you would need to steal to get all
the materias that you wanted. This will also be used for getting more
equipment. By getting the new equipment, you will need to steal even
more Ethers. I hope you feel it's worth it like I do. In EDMAN FAQ it
said not to buy certain stuff, well, not anymore.
EDMAN said that it was a good idea to get Yuffie because it will benefit
you for a low level game. I find that be rather false. Let me explain. He
said that getting Yuffie and doing her sidequest is getting less EXP than
fighting Rude, Reno, and Elena at the end of Disc 3, when they raid in
midgar.
Yuffie's sidequest alone, not including Yuffie's EXP, gets you this much EXP:
Battle #1 Attack Squad A and B = 600
Battle #2 Attack Squad A, B, and C = 900
Battle #3 Rapps (BOSS) = 3200
Total for Yuffie's Sidequest: 4700
And this isn't counting in gettin Yuffie in the first place.
Kicking Reno, Rude, and Elena's Ass = 4500
Surely you can tell which one gives you more EXP. Plus the fact that this I
haven't a the EXP required to get Yuffie.
Yuffie, aka Mystery Ninja, can give you different EXP based on the many
versions that you can get. This is based on what Cloud's level is.
Yuffie's Level EXP from fighting her
17 160
22 240
27 320
32 480
37 640
42 720 The max, you can't get a higher level.
Yuffie's level is based on Cloud's Level alone. From what the experts say,
the best time to get Yuffie is when Cloud is at level 20 or less. When you
get Yuffie by staying at this limit, her level will be 16. They also claim
that you can't get a lower level than 17 for Yuffie. The only beneficial
part that I find Yuffie is useful is that she comes with the Throw materia.
I know how powerful this materia can be because I used it on
one of my other challenges. This is one the materias that I would never
give up on, even if I limited myself to holding 8 Materia in my inventory.
So I would find a way to beat bosses without Throw or E-Skill. I have
to figure out how would this be possible, while at a low level.
I have to figure out how to distribue the EXP into everyone as well. At
first I thought I can give all the EXP to Aeris and have everyone else
KOed and all the inactive party get 50%. Then I would exchange the KOed
party into the active party, so that they wouldn't get any EXP for certain
battles. I found a major flaw. Giving Aeris all the EXP wasn't the way to
go because she was the one that leveled up the fastest. Getting her at a
such a high level is bad for other characters joining in, such as Cait,
Vincient, and Cid. Instead from by calculation and Terence's knowledge
Barret was the one that leveled up the slowest due to his need for EXP
to level up.
There is one thing I need to test out. It it possible to skip the battle
with Reno and Rude in Gongaga.
Nevermind, I read Edman explain that part, he said to skip it, I agree.
I have to do some testing of who to get first into my party, Vincient
first or Cid first. I ask this question because the requirement to get
Vincient is to Missing Number and then Materia Keeper. That would bring
the party level's kinda high. And when I got Vincient, he would probably
absorb some of the EXP from Materia Keeper. That could boost the group
average level. If I got Cid first and then come back to get Vincient,
using Aeris to get the full EXP for Missing Number, would that make a
difference?
Is it best not to get Vincient at all because of Missing Number's EXP?
OR by that time, from my calculation, it wouldn't matter to get those EXP?
There are a few tests that I would need to do to determine how much limit
break moves I can get, without having to fight Movers constantly. One of
which is a random battle against cactuers at Corel Prison. Yet there are 3
other Boss battles that I need to test out personally.
1. H0512 and his yellow friends
2. Gi Nattak and his fire friends
3. Hojo at the end of disc 3
From what I got from Terence, the first two can't be used because by
killing each of those guys, the exp will stack up. If that was the case,
I could've use those in my regular game to power my people up, why didn't
anyone tell me before.
Yet, he said I could possibly use #3 because the only EXP that I would get
was from Hojo's final form, the others wouldn't add up. From what he said
I'm trying to get 2-1 and 3-1 for the active party that I pick.
I heard that you can get limit break moves in a battle, even if the active
party member is dead. Good to know, isn't it?
Terence gave me MOD numbers so that I could find out how much EXP is
required for certain character to level up a ceratin level. So far I
believe these calcuation work and hopefully I can figure out how I would
distribute the EXP as well.
When you are willing to get E-Skills, it's best to have Aeris be the only
one alive, at the end of the fight, so that this will limit the ammount
of EXP gotten. Know this, you have to win the battle for E-Skills to be
learned.
Killing and fleeing from battle doesn't count towards getting a new Limit
Break Move, you have to win the battle for it to count, at all.
A thing that I'm thinking about is trying to Morph sources at the Battle
Arena, since doing so won't give you EXP. Morph Materis is located in
the Temple of the Ancients, so by then you won't have Aeris anymore
There are 6 Forced Battles that I can name in the game:
1. Cave of Gi, the Two Spiders that you must break the web in
2. First Battles with Cloud against 2 MPs
3. The Five Battles at the Corel Train Mission, led by Cid. There is one
more battle before this one as well.
(There is away to avoid this, read on to find out how)
4. The 4 Icicles at Gaea's Cliff
5. The couple patches of Shinra Soldier in the Underwater Reactor
6. The couple patches of Shirna Soldier in the Rocket City/Huge Materia
launch
7. The three Shinra Soldier you have to defeat in order to get Key 60 in
the Shinra Building
The Low Level FAQ said that you only need to do 3 Icicles and that if you
only hit the Icicile and not the bats, you won't get any EXP. I need to
test this out again, even though I'm quite sure you would get 500 Exp per
icicle. I have tested out it out. Edman FAQ is wrong, he said you won't
get any EXP, BS, you get 500 per icicle.
I'm not too sure about Chocobo raising. Catching Chocobos require getting EXP
from random battles, but since it's that far in the game. I wouldn't probably
even give you enough EXP level up anyways. I think that was how EDMAN
thought. I would agree to his idea, if I actually started this challenge
already. Added Later: I did get Chocobos at the end. By doing so, I only got
around 1200 EXP, which I can manage without raising anyone's level by the
end of the game.
Number 7 was added when I was doing the challenge. I didn't know you couldn't
escape that faith. Besides the low level FAQ never mentioned that this
existed at all.
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Understanding My Goals (FACTS)
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From all the force and boss battles that you have to face, before getting
Cid, you must keep the levels as low as possible. I will clarify how and when
you actually read the walkthrough/faq combo. Getting 1 level up in a battle
is way better then getting 3 level ups in the same battle
Cloud and Barret are the starters
Tifa = Before getting her, fighting against Scorpion Guard determines her
level.
Aeris = Before getting her, fighting against Air Buster determines her level.
Nanaki = Before getting him, fighting against Apps and Reno determines his
level. H0512 might also affect his level as well
Cait Sith = Before getting him, fighting (A large list) against Heli Gunner,
Rufus, Motorball, Bottomswell, and Jenova's Life determines his
level.
Yuffie = Her level is determined soley by Cloud's level. It's best to get her
when Cloud's level is equal to or lower than 20. For some reason,
I'm having doubt if I should get her or not.
Cid = Before getting him, fighting against Dyne, Gi Nattak, Materia Keeper,
and Palmer determines his level. He is the last guy left to join the
party, so his level range can be very high or medium. It depends on if
I my average level is low enough.
Vincient = Out of everyone that can join the party, I find him to be the
hardest to get because of Missing Number. Should I let him join
before getting Cid or after getting Cid, I must do two tests to
determine his faith.
Yuffie and Vincient are the only ones that I think, just think, that I won't
get for this game. If I got Yuffie, I won't be able to buy stuff from Wutai
without doing her sidequest. Yet if I got her later in the game, Rapps and
the Turks won't be there, meaning I won't get unnecessary EXP. I'll try to
Vincient some time in the game, but I haven't made up my mind yet. Should I
get one, but not the other, or should I not get them at all? Both?
Added Later: I got Yuffie, but not Vincient.
When I first thought about this challenge, I have deveopled three different
plans in approaching this challenge. All three can be combined, but it will
make it now good for the other characters joining in later on.
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Plan #1
Cloud get all the exp fully. While the other two party member are dead. One
of them being Aeris because she has the lowest level and rather keep it that
way. While the third party member can be swapped with the inactive members.
Pros/Reasons: Cloud will take all the EXP making him hard to level up. While
everyone gets half or none. Having Aeris dead means that she will not get a
lot of level ups. She does level up the fastest, in which case can increase
the average level, which isn't good at all. Cloud does starts out of the
highest EXP and Aeris has the lowest EXP.
Cons/Dispute: Making Cloud take this much EXP isn't really good. I know that
Cloud can take a lot of EXP before reaching over level 20, the number to get
Yuffie, but most people can have a second opinion about things. When people
say they have done a low level game, they always follow it up by saying what
level their Cloud was at when they beated Safer Sephiroth.
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Plan #2
Since Aeris is leaving the party by the end of disc 1. It would be best to
let her take the rest of the full gained EXP with her. While having Cloud
dead, she can take all the full EXPs, making Cloud have a lower EXP ammount.
The third party member can be switched for the inactive team, as well.
Pros/Reasons: While Aeris takes all the EXP, the inactive party will only
gain half the EXP, until they're switch to fill in the spot of KOed Active
party member. When Cloud is back in action after Aeris leaves, he can take
the rest of the EXP, he might even take on Diamond Weapon's EXP and still be
at a rather low level.
Cons/Disputes: Even if Cloud does stay at his own level, his own level will
increase the average level of the party. Even worse, having Aeris right
there means she will level up the fastest out of all of them, you know why?
She starts out a level 2 and can easily jump to level 5 in a single battle.
With both their levels combined, the average level will be higher than
Plan #1, IMOA.
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Plan #3
This plan was made up easily. Since Barret takes a lot of EXP to level up.
Shouldn't he take the Full EXP, so that the other, Tifa and Aeris stay at
their current level. Aeris and Cloud will always be KOed and in the active
party. The inactive party will always get the 50% EXP.
Pros/Reasons: I stated already. Barret takes a longer time to level up.
Cons/Disputes: In the beggining battles, Barret doesn't have a higher level
than Cloud, why should you switch now to a lower leveled character? In the
begging battles
Barret isn't always in most of the battles, so he won't be able to take the
Full EXP everytime. When he doesn't do that, Cloud will level up for that
battle alone. Increasing the average level.
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From these plans, I will pick Plan #1 to test out first because I do want
lower levls for the characters that are joining in.
The question is now, does it matter if I have them at a lower level. Sooner
or later, if they are part of the inactive party, they'll get the EXP require
them to level up to a certain level. I, will try my best to limit this EXP
explosion, by switching them with the KOed active party members.
Added later: I found what my mission is before getting Cid. That is to keep
the two lowest character from getting any more level ups. You must do this by
keeping them in the active party while remaining KOed after any battle.
Added second later: I found out a whole new goal. Plan #1 was the way to get
the lowest average level for everyone that joined in. Its purpose was not to
get the loweset level by the end of the game. Having Aeris there alive and
active, could've taken away 15660 EXP that was Cloud's during Plan #1. The
average level doesn't matter, only the EXP matters. It's no good to keep them
such a low level in the beginning of then have them gain 20 levels by the
end, so why not just throw away that 15660 EXP in the beginning to begin
with. I've decided to use Plan #2 now. The current Walkthrough that I wrote
will still be apart of this guide, except that it will be named how to get
the lowest level for each character instead.
*****Main Objective and Rules*****
1. Beat the game with the lowest level possible, 26, 28, 28.
2. Use all means possible, use what the game offers the player.
3. Don't use Gameshark or any other cheating devices.
Side: Do the LLP Game.
This is concept was based off of my Level One FFIX game. I beated the game
with a party 1s and 3 out of the 4 characters in my party could deal 9999.
This means that I put a lot effort and time to do this challenge. Which I
did. The idea is to stun the audience seeing you battle. "How the hell is
that possible," they would say. Explanation wouldn't convince them and
they'll probably said you cheated. Let them think whatever.
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General Tips
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1. Escape from all Random Battles by holding L1 and R1 or by using the
Exit materia's Escape move. Don't use Remove from Exit materia.
2. While escaping Random Battles, if it doesn't seem like it's going
anywhere. Have anyone of those active party members use Defend or even
better Steal or manipulate. Just don't run like a sitting duck. What a
great analogy isn't it?
3. If you know there isn't a boss coming up, it's best to have everyone in
the back row. If one is coming up, prepare yourself by having it in the
front row. Or unless I tell you wise, meaning that you know that a
character has a long range weapon or if you plan to use magic to attack
the enemy.
4. Since one person will end the battle, meaning one person will be alive at
the end. That also means only that person's materia will get any AP. Make
sure the materia, not that it should matter too much unless it's a
E-Skill, is the ones that you want to put AP on.
5. While using the Cover materia, it's best to put on someone that you want
to be dead at the end of the battle. Putting this on Cloud should not be
done because you'll need to waste more MP for cure, you need him alive
after all.
6. When stealing from a certain enemy, put everyone in the back row and the
people that aren't stealing should use defend during there turn, for at
least once per battle. They people that aren't steal should also put on
the Cover materia to protect the stealer from taking any damage, besides
they are on the defend mode, which is an extra plus.
7. When you using Aeris to take the EXP for the beginning fights, most of
disc 1, one of the best items to buy are grenades. These babies are like
Cloud attacking himself, to some level. Buy these items to kill the boss
with. Other explosives are fine as well, only knowing that it won't
inflict half or let the boss absorb the attack.
8. Get everything that get you into a random battles. Tressure chest or just
laying there on the ground just get it. Getting into random battles and
then running away from it is a good thing, it can power up Chocobuncle.
Don't be afraid. Added Later: This part shouldn't matter anymore, I
didn't use or even get Chocobuncle.
9. If you think your materia setup and item list setup is good to go for one
battle, save before entering the battle so that you can resume it if you
get game over. Resave if you can think up a better combination, like what
I did while writing this FAQ. Using Tents and Items should be done after
the save, since changing materia can lower your HP and MP.
10.Added Later: Getting AP doesn't really matter to me anymore, almost none
of materia that you're trying to upgrade will level up, except do try to
level up those HP Pluss.
11.Added Later: When using Wait mode, take the extra advantage with strategy
of course. When your characters, any of them get a turn and you don't
know what moves to select, well don't just passive, do something. Instead
you should go select any of the commands at least once. By doing so, you
have freezed the time of anyone else's turn, enemies and allies as well.
Don't be too hasty after you have selected. In boss battles, or any other
battles, you can just let it play out, meaning you can see all the moves
selected before you froze time. Then the next move that you make will
be activated instantly, unless the other guy was about to make a move
before you froze time. Press Cancel to start back the time up and select
something else if you want, and be quick about it, every move matters.
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Experience Points Requirements for Levels
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For this section, I'll start listing the Experience Points requirements for
each level. Since each person has a different way of gaining certain levels.
I'll try to do all them indivisually. Be a sured that these numbers are
required for one to level up to another level. These are not the EXP needed
for one to gain to go to the next level. There are the sum of all the EXP
gotten since the beginning of the game. Also note this, Cloud doesn't and
can't start at level 0 or 1 or 2 etc..., but due to his Mod numbers, his
faith is revealed. This table only goes to level 30 because this is a low
level game. I'll try to get the rest of the levels if someone,
particullary Terence, gives my the mod number or if I found the EXP
requirements by myself.
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Terence quoted: "XP requirements are a lot more complicated than can be
swiftly explained. In general, the XP required to get from Lvl to Lvl+1 is
equal to [Mod * (Lvl ^ 2) / 10], where Mod is a value unique to that character
for that level. However, it doesn't always work that way, because this value
is recalculated from L1 every time you go up a level, and at certain levels,
the Mod value can change.
A few examples: the XP req for L2 is equal to [(Mod for L2) * 1^2 / 10] = [Mod
/ 10]. But the XP req (total) for L3 is equal to [(Mod for L3) * 1^2 / 10] +
[(Mod for L3) * 2^2 / 10]. Also note that anything within [] brackets must be
rounded down.
Because of all this, it's difficult to give an 'average' value, and the Mod
values over levels are definitely unique for each character.
As for other questions about XP, Aeris only finally overtakes Barret for the
L82-99 range. Far beyond the scope of a Low Level game.
Really, though, the range of variance isn't very big between the characters'
XP reqs. Barret is usually only 3-4% ahead of Cloud's XP reqs.
I'll give you some low level Mod values so you know what to expect and who'll
increase in levels fastest:
L2-11: Aeris has 67, Cloud/Tifa/Red have 68, Cid/Cait/Yuffie have 69,
Barret/Vincent have 70.
L12-21: Aeris has 70, Cloud/Tifa/Red have 71, Cid/Cait/Yuffie/Vincent have 72,
Barret has 73.
L22-31: Aeris has 72, Cloud/Tifa have 73, Red/Yuffie has 74,
Barret/Cid/Cait/Vincent have 75.
L32-41: Cloud/Tifa/Aeris have 74, Red/Cid/Cait/Yuffie have 75, Barret/Vincent
have 76.
Characters with the same Mod value within a range will have the same XPReq
values within that range.
Also useful are some actual values for key levels to go with those Mod values:
L12: 70 Mod = 3542 XP, 71 Mod = 3588 XP, 72 Mod = 3639 XP, 73 Mod = 3689 XP
L22: 72 Mod = 23831 XP, 73 Mod = 24161 XP, 74 Mod = 24493 XP, 75 Mod =24827 XP
L32: 74 Mod = 77066 XP, 75 Mod = 78112 XP, 76 Mod = 79149 XP
L42: 74 Mod =176259XP, 75 Mod = 178647XP, 76 Mod = 181023XP, 77 Mod = 183403XP
Note: Those are total XP Req values, not the XP to get from the last level to
the next."
"And KADFC, I told you: the Mod *changes* at certain levels. L12 is the first
time it can change. And your value for 1 there ([68x(1^2)]/10 = 6) is the
requirement to get from L1 *to* L2. So what you have there is:
XP Req for L2 = [68*(1^2)/10] = 6
XP Req for L3 = [68*(1^2)/10] + [68*(2^2)/10] = 6 + 27
..
XP Req for L11 = 6 + 27 + 61 + 108 + 170 + 244 + 333 + 435 + 550 + 680
Your value for 11 (which you have as 822), however, is wrong, because the Mod
changes at this point. And when it changes, you have to start recalculating
the next level from L*1*. Since Cloud's new Mod for getting to L12 is 71,
you have to work it out again:
XP Req for L12 = [71*(1^2)/10] + [71*(2^2)/10] + [71*(3^2)/10] + ... +
[71*(11^2)/10]
Do you understand now? This is why the levels I gave you the XP Reqs for are
important; they're the first levels when the Mod changes for each range.
And no, this is not me 'predicting'. I *know* how it works. This is how it
works in the game."
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Cloud's and Tifa's Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
Like to Give Full Credit to MetalGearSolidBoy for Level 31 to Level 99. He
was the one that recorded these numbers and emailed the new info to me. I am
deeply grateful and will add it to this guide as well. I've also added some
of his comments as well. Thank You. (PS. His EXP Requirement added list only
applies to Cloud ONLY)
Mail Sent From MetalGearSolid:
"From : <
[email protected]>
Sent : Thursday, July 8, 2004 7:51 AM
To :
[email protected]
Subject : Returning the Favor...in a weird sort of way, KADFC.
My mother has always taught me to try and find good ways to show your
appreciation to them. So, taking what you said in your reply to me....I
wanted to go all the way to 99...I'm pleased to give you the rest of Cloud
and Tifa's EXP Requirements, all the way to level 99. I did it the long way
on my GH version, in case EXP stuff is different depending on the version. I
hope this helps you in some way, shape, or form. Enjoy, but there's no need
to salivate.
Heheheh, that's it. I'm going to be using this on my own guide, so if you ever
want to put that info on your FAQ at all, I hope it won't look like I stole
the info from you.
Again, thanks. See ya later. Peace out. Hug a rainbow. Burn down the barber
shops....uh, never mind. Bye.
Original Message:
(For levels 1 through 4, I used your info because Tifa doesn't start out at
exactly level 4, so I couldn't find out that one myself)."
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 6
LEVEL 3: 33
LEVEL 4: 94
LEVEL 5: 202
LEVEL 6: 372
LEVEL 7: 616
LEVEL 8: 949
LEVEL 9: 1384
LEVEL 10: 1934
LEVEL 11: 2614
LEVEL 12: 3588
LEVEL 13: 4610
LEVEL 14: 5809
LEVEL 15: 7200
LEVEL 16: 8797
LEVEL 17: 10614
LEVEL 18: 12665
LEVEL 19: 14965
LEVEL 20: 17528
LEVEL 21: 20368
LEVEL 22: 24161
LEVEL 23: 27694
LEVEL 24: 31555
LEVEL 25: 35759
LEVEL 26: 40321
LEVEL 27: 45255
LEVEL 28: 50576
LEVEL 29: 56299
LEVEL 30: 62438
LEVEL 31: 69008
LEVEL 32: 77066
LEVEL 33: 84643
LEVEL 34: 92701
LEVEL 35: 101255
LEVEL 36: 110320
LEVEL 37: 119910
LEVEL 38: 130040
LEVEL 39: 140725
LEVEL 40: 151980
LEVEL 41: 163820
LEVEL 42: 176259
LEVEL 43: 189312
LEVEL 44: 202994
LEVEL 45: 217320
LEVEL 46: 232305
LEVEL 47: 247963
LEVEL 48: 264309
LEVEL 49: 281358
LEVEL 50: 299125
LEVEL 51: 317625
LEVEL 52: 336872
LEVEL 53: 356881
LEVEL 54: 377667
LEVEL 55: 399245
LEVEL 56: 421630
LEVEL 57: 444836
LEVEL 58: 468878
LEVEL 59: 493771
LEVEL 60: 519530
LEVEL 61: 546170
LEVEL 62: 581467
LEVEL 63: 610297
LEVEL 64: 640064 (weird, huh? Level 64, 640064....)
LEVEL 65: 670784
LEVEL 66: 702471(I was expecting some evil number for 66,lol)
LEVEL 67: 735141
LEVEL 68: 768808
LEVEL 69: 803488
LEVEL 70: 839195
LEVEL 71: 875945
LEVEL 72: 913752
LEVEL 73: 952632
LEVEL 74: 992599
LEVEL 75: 1033669
LEVEL 76: 1075856
LEVEL 77: 1119176
LEVEL 78: 1163643
LEVEL 79: 1209273
LEVEL 80: 1256080
LEVEL 81: 1304080
LEVEL 82: 1389359
LEVEL 83: 1441133
LEVEL 84: 1494178
LEVEL 85: 1548509
LEVEL 86: 1604141
LEVEL 87: 1661090
LEVEL 88: 1719371
LEVEL 89: 1778999
LEVEL 90: 1839990
LEVEL 91: 1902360
LEVEL 92: 1966123
LEVEL 93: 2031295
LEVEL 94: 2097892
LEVEL 95: 2165929
LEVEL 96: 2235421
LEVEL 97: 2306384
LEVEL 98: 2378833 (One more...phew!)
LEVEL 99: 2452783
Barret's Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 7
LEVEL 3: 35
LEVEL 4: 98
LEVEL 5: 210
LEVEL 6: 385
LEVEL 7: 637
LEVEL 8: 980
LEVEL 9: 1428
LEVEL 10: 1995
LEVEL 11: 2695
LEVEL 12: 3698
LEVEL 13: 4740
LEVEL 14: 5973
LEVEL 15: 7403
LEVEL 16: 9045
LEVEL 17: 10913
LEVEL 18: 13022
LEVEL 19: 15307
LEVEL 20: 18022
LEVEL 21: 20942
LEVEL 22: 24827
LEVEL 23: 28457
LEVEL 24: 32424
LEVEL 25: 36744
LEVEL 26: 41431
LEVEL 27: 46501
LEVEL 28: 51968
LEVEL 29: 57848
LEVEL 30: 64155
Aeris' Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
*NOTE*: For levels I'm just gonna go to level 20 because..., you know.
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 6
LEVEL 3: 32
LEVEL 4: 92
LEVEL 5: 199
LEVEL 6: 366
LEVEL 7: 607
LEVEL 8: 935
LEVEL 9: 1363
LEVEL 10: 1905
LEVEL 11: 2575
LEVEL 12: 3542
LEVEL 13: 4550
LEVEL 14: 5733
LEVEL 15: 7105
LEVEL 16: 8680
LEVEL 17: 10472
LEVEL 18: 12495
LEVEL 19: 14763
LEVEL 20: 17290
Nanaki's (Red XIII) Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 6
LEVEL 3: 33
LEVEL 4: 94
LEVEL 5: 202
LEVEL 6: 372
LEVEL 7: 616
LEVEL 8: 949
LEVEL 9: 1384
LEVEL 10: 1934
LEVEL 11: 2614
LEVEL 12: 3588
LEVEL 13: 4610
LEVEL 14: 5809
LEVEL 15: 7200
LEVEL 16: 8797
LEVEL 17: 10614
LEVEL 18: 12665
LEVEL 19: 14965
LEVEL 20: 17528
LEVEL 21: 20368
LEVEL 22: 24493
LEVEL 23: 28074
LEVEL 24: 31988
LEVEL 25: 36250
LEVEL 26: 40875
LEVEL 27: 45877
LEVEL 28: 51271
LEVEL 29: 57072
LEVEL 30: 63295
Cait Sith's Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 6
LEVEL 3: 33
LEVEL 4: 95
LEVEL 5: 205
LEVEL 6: 377
LEVEL 7: 625
LEVEL 8: 963
LEVEL 9: 1404
LEVEL 10: 1962
LEVEL 11: 2652
LEVEL 12: 3639
LEVEL 13: 4675
LEVEL 14: 5891
LEVEL 15: 7302
LEVEL 16: 8922
LEVEL 17: 10765
LEVEL 18: 12845
LEVEL 19: 15177
LEVEL 20: 17776
LEVEL 21: 20656
LEVEL 22: 24827
LEVEL 23: 28457
LEVEL 24: 32424
LEVEL 25: 36744
LEVEL 26: 41431
LEVEL 27: 46501
LEVEL 28: 51968
LEVEL 29: 57848
LEVEL 30: 64155
Cid's Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 6
LEVEL 3: 33
LEVEL 4: 95
LEVEL 5: 205
LEVEL 6: 377
LEVEL 7: 625
LEVEL 8: 963
LEVEL 9: 1404
LEVEL 10: 1962
LEVEL 11: 2652
LEVEL 12: 3639
LEVEL 13: 4675
LEVEL 14: 5891
LEVEL 15: 7302
LEVEL 16: 8922
LEVEL 17: 10765
LEVEL 18: 12845
LEVEL 19: 15177
LEVEL 20: 17776
LEVEL 21: 20656
LEVEL 22: 24827
LEVEL 23: 28457
LEVEL 24: 32424
LEVEL 25: 36744
LEVEL 26: 41431
LEVEL 27: 46501
LEVEL 28: 51968
LEVEL 29: 57848
LEVEL 30: 64155
Vincient's Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 7
LEVEL 3: 35
LEVEL 4: 98
LEVEL 5: 210
LEVEL 6: 385
LEVEL 7: 637
LEVEL 8: 980
LEVEL 9: 1428
LEVEL 10: 1995
LEVEL 11: 2695
LEVEL 12: 3639
LEVEL 13: 4675
LEVEL 14: 5891
LEVEL 15: 7302
LEVEL 16: 8922
LEVEL 17: 10765
LEVEL 18: 12845
LEVEL 19: 15177
LEVEL 20: 17776
LEVEL 21: 20656
LEVEL 22: 24827
LEVEL 23: 28457
LEVEL 24: 32424
LEVEL 25: 36744
LEVEL 26: 41431
LEVEL 27: 46501
LEVEL 28: 51968
LEVEL 29: 57848
LEVEL 30: 64155
Yuffie's Experience Requirements needed to reach level:
LEVEL 1: 0
LEVEL 2: 6
LEVEL 3: 33
LEVEL 4: 95
LEVEL 5: 205
LEVEL 6: 377
LEVEL 7: 625
LEVEL 8: 963
LEVEL 9: 1404
LEVEL 10: 1962
LEVEL 11: 2652
LEVEL 12: 3639
LEVEL 13: 4675
LEVEL 14: 5891
LEVEL 15: 7302
LEVEL 16: 8922
LEVEL 17: 10765
LEVEL 18: 12845
LEVEL 19: 15177
LEVEL 20: 17776
LEVEL 21: 20656
LEVEL 22: 24827
LEVEL 23: 28457
LEVEL 24: 32424
LEVEL 25: 36744
LEVEL 26: 41431
LEVEL 27: 46501
LEVEL 28: 51968
LEVEL 29: 57848
LEVEL 30: 64155
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Experience Points from Battles
##################################
In this section, I will list all the possible unavoiable battles and how much
EXP it gives out. This be listed as column A and column B. A will be the
inactive party's EXP gain. B will be the inactive party's EXP gain, which is
half of A's.
A B
0. First Battle 32 16
A. Scorpion Guard 100 50
B. Air Buster 180 90
C. Aps 240 120
Ca.Reno
D. (3) Almighty Grunt 290 145
E. H0512 300 150
F. Heli Gunner 250 125
G. Rufus 310 155
H. Motorball 440 220
Ha.Bottomwell
I. Jenova's Birth 550 275
J. Dyne 680 340
K. (2) Stingers 580 290
L. Nattak Gi 1400 700
M. Materia Keeper 3000 1500
N. Palmer 1800 900
O. Red Dragon 3500 1750
P. Demon's Gate 3800 1900
Q. Jenova's Life 4000 2000
R. (3) Icicles 1500 750
S. Schizo 4400 2200
T. Jenova's Death 6000 3000
U. Carry Armor (not in order) 5700(Lowers if arms2850aren't killed)
4250 One arm left
2800 Both arms left
V. Underwater Army 13540 6770
a.(1700) 850
b.(1700) 850
c.(2550)1275
d.(1640) 820
(Carry Armor's Slot)
e.(1700) 850
f.(1700) 850
g.(2550)1275
W. Corel Shinra Guards 600 300
X. Rocket Shinra Army 3660 1830
a.( 600) 300
b.( 600) 300
c.(1530) 765
(Rude's Slot)
d.( 930) 465
Y. Rude (not in order) 3600 1800
Z. Diamond Weapon 35000 17500
ZA.Turks in Shinra 4500 2250
ZB.Proud Clod 7000 3500
ZB.Hojo 25000 12500
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Author's Battle Plans (for the LAL Game)
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This is the battle plan that I will use for this game. This section is
written I have finished all the strategical part of this guide. I will have
the same format as was what Garland had in his Battle Plan except that his </pre><pre id="faqspan-2">
Survivor and KOed won't be the same as mine. Basically, if you want, you can
just print this section out and follow this plan without using this guide.
Surely it will make it a better challenge for you. When you get stuck you
always come back to this walkthrough and use it.
Survivor KOed
Scorpion Guard Barret Cloud
Air Buster Cloud Tifa, Barret
Aps Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Reno Cloud Barret, Tifa
(3) Almighty Grunt Cloud Barret, Tifa
H0512 Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
Heli Gunner Aeris Barret, Nanaki
Rufus Cloud
Motorball Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Bottomswell Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Jenova's Birth Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Dyne Barret
(2) Stingers Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
Nattak Gi Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
Materia Keeper Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Palmer Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Red Dragon Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Demon's Gate Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Jenova's Life Cloud Cait and Cid
3 Icicles (A) Cloud Cait and Cid
(B) Cloud Cait and Cid
(C) Cloud Cait and Tifa
Schizo Cloud Cait and Cid
Jenova's Death Cloud Cait and Tifa
Corel Guards Nanaki Cait and Cid
Big Guard Nanaki Cait and Cid
Magic Hammer Nanaki Cait and Cid
White Wind Nanaki Cait and Cid
Underwater Army
a.(1700) Cloud Cait and Cid
b.(1700) Cloud Cait and Cid
c.(2550) Cloud Cait and Barret
d.(1640) Cloud Cid and Barret
Carry Armor Nanaki Cloud and Barret
e.(1700) Nanaki Cloud and Barret
f.(1700) Nanaki Cloud and Barret
g.(2550) Nanaki Cloud and Barret
Rocket Shinra Army
a.( 600) Cloud Cid and Barret
b.( 600) Cloud Cid and Barret
c.(1530) Cloud Cid and Barret
Rude (lowerable) Cloud Cid and Barret
d.( 930) Cloud Cid and Barret
Diamond Weapon Tifa Cloud and Nanaki
Yuffie Cloud Barret and Cid
Turks in Shinra Yuffie Cloud and Tifa
Proud Clod Cloud Yuffie and Tifa
Hojo Yuffie Cloud and Tifa
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Author's Battle Plans (for the LLP GAME)
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GarlandG's Battle Plan
############################
This battle plan was created and designed by GarlandG to make everyone's EXP
as relativly as close as possible. This takes time to create, seeing as how
perfect he wants everyone to be for this low level. Even though I argued to
the point that this whole challenge was to make everyone stay at level 28 and
gain any more levels, he agreed later on to this fact that we shouldn't waste
any EXP we have left before 29. Yet I still honor his work. So this is how it
is. Yuffie was not gotten in hiw orginal work. I tried to do as much as the
table that he showed me.
Survivor KOed
Scorpion Guard Barret Cloud
Air Buster Tifa Cloud, Barret
Aps Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Reno Tifa Cloud, Barret
(3) Almighty Grunt Tifa Cloud, Barret
H0512 Barret Cloud, Nanaki
Heli Gunner Aeris Barret, Nanaki
Rufus Cloud
Motorball Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Bottomswell Aeris Cloud, Nanaki
Jenova's Birth Aeris Cloud, Barret
Dyne Barret
Big Guard (Enemy Skill) Aeris Cloud, Barret
White Wind (Enemy Skill) Aeris Cloud, Barret
(2) Stingers Aeris Cloud, Barret
Nattak Gi Aeris Cloud, Nanaki
Materia Keeper Aeris Cloud, Tifa
Palmer Aeris Cloud, Barret
Magic Hammer (Enemy Skill) Aeris Cloud, Cid
Red Dragon Aeris Cloud, Cid
Demon's Gate Aeris Cloud, Cid
Jenova's Life Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
3 Icicles (A) Cloud Cid, Barret
(B) Nanaki Cloud, Barret
(C) Tifa Cloud, Cid
Schizo Cid
Jenova's Death Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
Underwater Army
a.(1700) 850 Cid Cloud, Tifa
b.(1700) 850 Cid Cloud, Tifa
c.(2550)1275 Cait Cloud, Cid
ca.other two Cait Cloud, Barret
d.(1640) 820 Cloud Barret, Nanaki
(Carry Armor's Slot) Cid Cloud, Barret
e.(1700) 850 Cid Cloud, Barret
f.(1700) 850 Barret, Cid Cloud
g.(2550)1275 Cloud Barret, Cid
Corel Shinra Guards Cid Cait, Nanaki
Rocket Shinra Army
a.( 600) 300 Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
b.( 600) 300 Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
c.(1530) 765 Cloud Tifa, Nanaki
(Rude's Slot) Barret Cloud, Cid
d.( 930) 465 Cid Cloud, Barret
Diamond Weapon Cloud Barret, Cid
Turks in Shinra Cid Cloud, Barret
Proud Clad Cid Cloud, Nanaki
Hojo Barret Cloud, Cait
Ending Stats:
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|Character | Level | EXP |
|------------------------------ |
|Cloud | 28 | 53727 |
|Barret | 28 | 53705 |
|Tifa | 28 | 53729 |
|Aeris | 20 | 18607 |
|Nanaki | 28 | 53728 |
|Cait | 28 | 53705 |
|Cid | 28 | 53724 |
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Walkthrough/FAQ at the same time
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The main point of this walkthrough is to give all the EXP to Aeris when
given the chance to. If she isn't available, then Cloud will have to take
all the EXP. By doing so, Aeris will take most of all the boss's EXP when
she leaves, while Cloud some and other member not get any of it.
Added Later: This is the Lowest Average Level Game, aka LAL
#################
DISC 1
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First Reactor
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When I say do a stats check. It means going into the menu screen and
looking at the Stats of certain characters. It's important only the
look at the EXP recieved so far for this guy and how much EXP it's
needed for him or her to level up.
When you begin the game, you see the train going and then
Cloud jumping out. Barret tells him to follow him and there
are two Shinra Guards coming at you. You'll get into a fight
with two MP. MP A and MP B. This battle, proven by me and many
others out there, are unescapable and unvoiable. Before fighting
them though, search the Guard that's already down for a Potion.
But before you kill them, let me explain something rather odd. If you
checked Cloud's Stats before entering the battle, meaning the first
chance you got to go into the menu screen and checekd Cloud's stats.
It should say Cloud has currently 610 EXP and needs 35 EXP to level
up to the next level. But from my calculations he only needs 6 EXP
to go to the next level. At first I was wrong, but at the last minute
the game decided to correct itself. Isn't that weird. The time part
that it decides to correct itself happens after the battle against the
two MP soldiers.
There is no strategy for killing these two MPs, just keep on attacking.
One slash from Cloud should kill each one of them by ease. And after
the battle you should get 32 EXP.
If you look closely like I said before, from the previous stats check.
This battle shouldn't have made Cloud gain a level, but it did. So the
previous stats check was fake, a spoof. The real one comes after the
first battle.
Stats Check Before Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 610 35 6
The Two MPs give 32 EXP total, I said he only needed 6 EXP to level up.
Stats Check After Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 642 307 7
After the battle, check any soldier to get two potions. Then go to the
main of the hall and turn to left. Approach the other members of AVALACHE
and give them your name. I decided to stick with Cloud though. Barret
comes along, and he will have to name him as well. Keep going and follow
the rest of the party. Later on Barret will become a part of your party.
Grab the phoenix down after the doors are opended. Go to elevator.
Stats Check on Barret once you have gotten him:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Barret 395 242 6
After that, run toward the reactor. If you see a Save point and there and
use it. Keep on going and you'll see a Restore materia on the ground, you
have to grab it, you can't run/walk by it, it block your way. Go to the
reactor and Barret will start talking. The Boss comes:
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BOSS BATTLE: Scorpion Guard HP: 800 EXP: 100
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This boss isn't hard at all. Note that he has about 800 HP. Use
Cloud's Lightning magic to deal 90 and Barret should attack. Be on
alert for his tail. If you attack it while it is still up, he will
slaughter everyone. So while his tail is up, don't attack him
anymore. Instead you should be thinking how to kill Cloud before this
boss dies. Barret is doing around 30s and 40s with his normal attack,
so it would be best to knock Scorpion down to 100 HP before killing
Cloud off.
I like to Note, Cyrus Virus from the boards. He said that it was possilbe
to get Cross Slash from this battle alone, if I'm not mistake. You can try
this out if you want, just make sure Cloud is dead at the end of the
battle. And he should learn Cross Slash, if you've used Braver 8 times in
that battle, make sure you don't kill the boss before you've done the 8
times part. I, on the hand, won't use this until the third boss. I don't
want to risk it this early in the game. I rather do it when I have the
Steal materia. That way, I can have as many potions as I want without
risking anything at all. Besides I don't have to do it, I can wait for
any futher bosses to try it on, it's not like the 2-1 Limit Break
requires me to use Cross Slash or Braver 8 times anyways, it can wait.
Stats Check After Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 642 307 7
Scorpion Guard gave 100 EXP only to Barret, Cloud didn't get any because he was
KOed.
Barret 495 142 6
After that, the 10 minute timer should be set and you're ready to leave this
place anyways. You probably want to save before exiting, but that is up to
you. Remember to grab/talk to Jessie before leaving. Without her, you won't
escape this place a live. Head out of here and the Reactor explodes.
When you get a chance to talk to Aeris, select what you want. I decided to
to reject the flower and move on. On the next screen, make sure to pick up
the potion. With the low gil supply you have right now, any item is good.
For the fights against the three groups of Shinra Soldiers, skip all three
of them by selecting the lower option. You don't need extra EXP.
After that you should jump on the train. Later you'll get on the train.
Talk to Jessie to have her inform you about the sectors, then move close
Barret and there will be more talking. After that the train stops and your
off.
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Sector 7- Seventh Heaven
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Head down, head back to sector 7 and the 7th Heaven. Talk to Barret and then
enter this place. Talk to Tifa and then try to leave this place. Follow
Barret down to the basement. Tifa will come down later, go back up to the
top floor. Tifa approaches and they talk. Later Barret comes and give you
money. Later you'll find yourself in the basement sleeping. Go to up and
Barret wants you to teach him how to use materia, reject the offer is my
choice, it's a waste of time anyways.
Stats Check on everyone
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 642 307 7
Barret 495 142 6
Tifa 102 100 4
I told you she was on level 4, didn't I.
After that, head for the weapon shop. Get the All materia with the Ether
that inside the box. Then go back down to the first floor and buy Iron
Bangles, at least three of them. Don't buy the one for Aeris later in
the game, she can have Cloud's, because the Air Buster will drop a
Titan Bangle. By then give Cloud the Titan and Aeris the Iron Bangle.
Sell all the the Ethers that you have, you don't need them, but they
do sell for 750 a piece. You can sell the Bronze Bangles if you want, I
did. You should only buy two more Restore Materia. These materia will
get all three of your chacacters the 1-2 limit against the next boss.
Since the potions are 50 a piece, you should probably get some till you
have 20 of them. Don't worry you still have a lot of money. And that
will be all the things you should buy for right now.
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Second Reactor
#################################
Head back to train station, save or don't save, you have to be sure if
you want to keep the things that you bought. OR even better yet, make
a second save on a different file. As you are on the train, there isn't
very much you can do here. You can get the phoenix down, hi-potion, and
get back the things the guy stole from you. When you are in the reactor
pick up the Ether, Potion, and Tent. This reactor is the same as the last
one and you must go to the same place as the last reactor. When you have
Cloud has touch the controls, then you should really save. Remember the
first reactor, use that same route to escape this place. You'll run into
a chess which contains a Ether and you'll have to do the three men push
button thing, after the door is opened save again. Up ahead is the 2nd
boss fight. Before going there, make sure you have divided the materia
to your liking. The Ice and Lighting materia should not be used for this
battle, but the All and Restore materias are welcome.
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BOSS BATTLE: Air Buster HP: 1200 EXP: 180
**************************
In this battle, this is very tricky. I have a plan that I hope you
can follow with me. I'm gonna to try get get everyone's 1-2 Limit
Break in this battle. The whole process goes as follows. You have
two ways of healing yourself and Air Buster, by potion and by Restore
magic. This guy only attacks one of your men at a time, so this will
work out fine. Just remember that Barret needs to do his Big Blow at
least 9 times, Cloud's Braver 8 times, and Tifa's Beat Rush 9 times.
Just to let you know, Cloud's the only one left to survive this battle.
Also note that you should not let anyone die unless they have used
their limit break at least that many times or if they still have MP
to spare. If they don't have neither of these obligations and that
person isn't Cloud, then just let them be KOed. The best way to do
this, is set the ATB at Recommended and Battle Speed to 75% to fastest
side. When doing this, either have a paper and pencil or a calculator
so that you'll know when to heal Airbuster, so that you can keep
on using your limit breaks. If someone has done all their limit
breaks yet still has MP or is close to getting a limit break, have
them use defend. By using Defend, it can cut the damage done by
Airbuster by half making the limit bar take less power. Filling the
bar when the person doesn't need that much or not at all is better
for choosing who to heal when its time to do it. Doing a backattack
will double the damage on Air Buster, so you should be careful. Just
by having Barret using Big Shot twice while doing a backattack, it can
just kill Air Buster, or close to it. When everyone has done doing
their limit breaks, let Tifa and Barret be KOed, and make Air Buster's
HP 100 or less, so that Cloud can kill it with ease. That shall
now end the fight.
Stats Check after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 822 127 7
Barret 495 142 6
Tifa 102 100 4
If you let Cloud survive this battle alone, no one will level up. Keeping
the average level to a minimum.
Also note that you don't have to get everyone's 1-2 limit in this battle.
You can decide when you want to get your's, but still get them in boss battles
you think you can manage to stay alive and still can beat the boss. It really
determines if you even need the 1-2 Limit Break. I far one, don't plan to
really get it, until after Midgar. I fooled you didn't I?
After the battle, the Air Buster will explode the Bridge the fight was
was being held at. Cloud will now fall into Aeris' Bed. I mean flower bed.
There, Cloud would awaken infront of Aeris. Give her a name and say there
is nothing to talk about. Talk to her again and Reno comes in. When you
can move Cloud, get close to Reno and Aeris will talk. Keep pressing X.
Aeris and Cloud decided to leave the scence and walk up to the top and
try to escape from Reno and Shinra.
Before going any further, how about we check Aeris Stats
Stats Check for Aeris
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Aeris 6 26 2
Extremly low, wouldn't you say?
Keep walking up the stairs, and then you'll need to push barrels to
protect Aeris from getting attacked, even more importantly, getting any
EXP. Push the Barrels in this order (o'clock): 9, 12, 3
After that wait for Aeris to come up, and then go up the log to the upper
left side. They'll chat for a while and then you'll be heading to Aeris'
House. Before going in, get the Cover materia with the Ether that's in
Aeris' garden. Also in Sector 5, you should probably want to get some
Titan Bangle but that is optional since their are better equipments in
the next Sector visit. I personlly bought 2 extra Titan Bangles, thats all.
Later on when your inside, you'll have to walk away from the bedroom.
Walk and don't stand any where close to the center of the room. Once you
got the house, I advise that you save.
Get out of this screen and go left. Aeris will not join back into your
party. Head left and then up to the top of the screen. Now it's time to
rescue Tifa.
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Sector 6
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Go into Sector 6 slums.
Even though it may not matter much to you, I still have to limit every
single EXP gotten. So you'll have to make Don pick you no matter what.
If you don't, you don't Cloud will have to face Don's Cronies. Each crony
will give out 6 EXP. Not much, but it still counts
When you first enter this place, go to the left and to the Honey Bee. Talk
to one of the man standing outside and ask for Tifa. Then go all the way
to Don's Mansion. Talk to the guy standing outside. Next head back to
the first screen and go the upper left store. Talk to the guy. Next go
to the screen north of this one and enter the bar. Talk to the man drinking
on the right hand side. Tell him that you want something "Soft" and something
that "Shimmers." Go back to the cloth store and talk to the Clerk. Next
get the wig from the wrestling place by doing Squats. You should probably
save if you plan to lose or if you're aren't too confident in your skills.
My record so far has been 20 Squats to his 15.
Go back to the first screen and enter the place that you can eat a meal in.
I ordered my self "Today's Special." We you are about to leave answer with
"It was ok." You'll then recieve a Coupon. Go to the store close the one
that saids ITEM. Talk to the man and get the "Digestive." Go to the bar
and give it to the person inside the Bathroom. Go back to the first screen
now and go to the store in the upper right side. Tell him that you'll do
it. Now go to the Inn and buy the 200 gil drink. Go back to the store and
give the man the drink.
Summarization: Soft and Shimmers = Silk Dress
Winner of Squats = Blonde Wig
"It's was ok" and Digestive = Sexy Cologne
200 gil Drink = Diamond Tiara
Other words summarization: Always pick the second option and get the most
most expensive stuff.
You can do the honey bee thing though, but it's not needed so I'll just
leave it at that. You should probably save now, I don't think you want
to do that thing all over again.
Now go to the weapon show and buy yourself some nice weapons. I forgot
this was avaliable at the time, so I didn't bothered to get any. It's not
needed to survive other fights, but I think should come in handy. You should
buy the Mythril Armlet, at least 3 of them for your active party. The weapons
are ok, but I rather use limit breaks and they work pretty fine later in the
game. It's ok if you don't want to buy any of it. If you do, I recommend
just selling any ethers you currently have. I always sell my ethers because
I know it wasn't worth it. I had too low of MP to use my ethers.
Next, go to Don's Mansion and talk to the guy standing there. Once you
get in, find Tifa. Before talking the Tifa mandatoryly, get the Ether.
Go talk to Tifa now and next go to Don's Room. Don will pick Cloud. During
the alone time, pick the one that you think will end the conversation the
quickest. Don't forget to get the Hyper behind Don's bed. Tifa and Aeris
will now come in. At the end they will go down to the Sewer. Before talking
to both Aeris and Tifa grab the potion, not sure if it'll be any help.
Then you should prepare yourself. Put Restore materia on everyone and equip
them properly, do equip any new bangle or armlets you bought recently.
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BOSS BATTLE: APS HP: 1800 EXP: 240
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This battle should be very easy. If you are trying to get their 2-1 Limit
Breaks, this seems a fairly good battle to use it on. Use Cure when you
think you can't take a hit anymore. When I'd played him, he hardly use
the his big waves at me, until both Aeris and Tifa are dead. Oh, yeah
I almost forgot. For this battle, only Aeris gets the full EXP. The
others won't get any. You can get more 5 limit breaks and deal it on
to this guy and he still won't be dead. You should also try to estimate
how much HP he has left before he dies, that way you can make sure Tifa
and Cloud doesn't get any of it. This is the first battle that you'll
get Aeris. The next one will be far away.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 822 127 7
Barret 615 22 6
Tifa 102 100 4
Aeris 246 120 5
I just added Barret 120 EXP from this battle. Like I said before, even
though he isn't part of the battle or with the party at that time, he will
still get the inactive part of the EXP. If you don't believe me, check for
yourself when you get Barret back.
After this battle, go to the right side and YOU MUST GRAB THE STEAL MATERIA.
This is by far the most helpful materia in the whole game. Without this, you
won't know how to get more gils to buy the stuff that you need to beat this
challenge. You must get this. Don't use the rest of this FAQ/Walkthrough if
you don't plan to get this or you don't plan to get it. I'm SERIOUS.
Make it all the way out of the sewers. There is a save point, use it. I, for
some reason didn't use it, yet. I plan to get some money making investments.
This idea came from me the first time I played this game and I've always
used it whenever possible. In this place there are these enemies called
Deenglows. If you equip your Steal onto one of your party memeber and steal
from them you'll get an Ether. Remember how Ethers sell for, let me remind
you, 750 gils. In 4 steal you can rack up 3000 gils, but only when you sell
them though. I, myself, sent a hour in here try to steal these Ether from
these guys. At the end I fulfilled my goal of getting 33 ethers, instead I
got 34. Meaning in that hour, I got myself 25500 gils.
*Added Later* Get 5+ Ghost Hands from the Ghosts, if you plan to beat this
challenge without using nor getting any Enemy Skills.
Here are some pointers when trying to steal from them while in the train
graveyard. Be cautious when they come in threes. They can be very deadly.
Twos are nice and healthy, you won't die to often from them. Deenglows do
use Ice which deals 80 or so damage. You can equip Aeris with the Cover
materia so that her limit bar may fill up faster, so that she can cast
Healing Wind. If there are 2 or 3 of them, try to kill until one remains,
so that you can esacpe and not get any EXP. If for all three of them, you
stole every single ether out of all three of them, but you haven't been
able to skill them yet, escape now. Don't bother killing them. Your whole
goal is to steal ether only. Nothing else matter for this point. You can
try to beat my goal of 34 ethers, but I must remind you. With Aeris' HP
being this low, she might get killed by one of the Deenglow's Ice
attacks. Try to keep her HP as high as possible for her to use Healing
Winds. When I was done with this place, I din't use the train graveyard's
save spot, instead I used the one in the up coming screen. I could've
still went on getting more ethers, but my Aeris was KOed. Remembered
the Ice attack that I was talking about. I wasn't too careful and well,
she died. Twice. I had only one Phoenix down left and I didn't want to
use it. So I decided to quit. Before going to the next screen though,
make sure to take off Aeris' equipment (armor) and any materia equipped
to her. Barrets needs these stuff for the Reno battle.
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Attack on Sector 7
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When you finally got to Sector 7, Tifa and Cloud will head up to the
tower. Aeris will leave the party and deal with other matters at
hand. During that time, check your current party and see that
they're restored in health. That is when you should save. Before
heading up, talk to one of the men standing around, if you notice
him, he is a store clerk and he is willing to sell you some items.
From what I see fit, this is the best time to sell your first small
patch of Ethers, if you did what I asked and stole them. I got about
20k worth of gils from that. Now, buy at least three Hypers. Those
are needed for the up coming battle. Save again or not. Added
Later, from the same guy standing there, this is the only time in
which you can buy Grenades. Since you are trying to let Aeris start
winning the fights later on, you should buy at least 20 Grenades.
You could also buy some extra phoenix downs, and hyper, wouldn't
hurt at all, you never might know when you need them. Rememeber
this is the last time to buy Grenades
Now go to the top of the tower, you don't need to talk to any of
them, just go straight up. I'll admit it, I did lose to this boss
2 times and I won on my third attempt. The first and third attempt,
I got into 2 random battles and my second attempt I just got one.
Once you talk to Barret, it's time to get the party ready for the
battle against Reno. Let me say first, this battle got me the
Cross Slash limit break for Cloud. Give Barret the armor that was
on Aeris. Barret should have the All linked with Restore and then
the lighting/ice materia as well. Cloud should get a Restore with
the Cover materia, so that he has a greater chance of using limit
break. Aeris should get a Restore with the left over magic
materia. After that make sure they have the best armor avaiable
and then give everyone a Hyper, so that fury can
make this battle go a little bit faster.
This idea of Cover with Hyper was a superb idea and I found that
out myself. This should be the technique of getting any part B
limit levels. I will use that for the future and I hope you'll to,
for this challenge though and for boss/force battles.
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BOSS BATTLE: Reno (#1) HP: 1000 EXP: 290
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Like I said before, Cloud is suppose to be the only one left
standing after this battle, alone. This is one of the hardest
battles I've had because I have to kill the other two. That's
is why I personally don't like SCC, ever. But I must do what
I must do. It will be great to use a calculator again. This
battle can go very fast, but I perfer to go slow to add them
to my calculator. On my second try, I beated him, but I
forgot to kill Aeris and Barret though. So I had to start
over again. There is two attacks that he uses that I really
hate, the slap is ok. Pyramind being one of them. From what
I recall this was a real killer for a SCC as well, since it
will give you a game over if your other party members are
KOed. The other one, being a less threat is his electro rod,
which just paralysis. First try to get his HP lower than
110, 100 is fine as well. One of Cloud's Braver can kill
him if he has that much life left. When and if anyone has
their limit bar at full power, and you know that Reno's
life is depleted if you send in one more attack and he
is still using Pyramind on your men, now is the best time
to use magic (ice/thunder). Use these things to kill
pyramids and even your own ally, as long as it isn't
Cloud. When Cloud has a full limit bar and Reno's life
is low, start attempting to kill Barret and Tifa. Use
them to heal Cloud if needed. If so happen, Barret kills
Tifa and then Reno kills Barret, and you have Cloud's
limit ready, this is the perfect plan to winning this
batle. This is what happen in my battle. Good Luck.
Another way to do this, is have Cloud ready for limit
break, Tifa or Barret either one still alive. Have Reno kill one of them
off, when he does use Cloud's limit. The reason to keep one other ally
alive is if he uses pyramid on you. Good reason enough.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1112 272 8
Barret 615 22 6
Tifa 102 100 4
Aeris 391 216 6
You are probably asking how I found Aeris's Total EXP and level. Well,
I'm using the calculation from the Mod numbers, which I got from Terence.
When I was testing this on my game, it has never failed me before and I
don't it will ever fail on me ever. If you don't trust me, let me say it
again. Check it when she returns.
After the battle, Barret will start grieving for his friends, keep pressing
confirm and skip this part. It's boring and long, I know. After that when
you get Cloud, attempt to leave the others and continue on. After Barret and
Tifa is in your party. Head back and get the Sense materia. With this, I
could've beat Reno easily, too late now. Now rush back to Sector 5. You must
flee fast from every battle, Tifa and Barret are KOed and Cloud is the only
left standing. If you are getting low of HP, cure yourself with Restore.
No need to waste a phoenix down on those that are going to be fully healed
anways, right?
When you arrive, you could save on the save point, but you would need to do
it again after Aeris' mother talks about Aeris' early days. After you have
talked with Aeris's mom, Elymra, is that how you spell her name? It doesn't
matter anyways. After that, you'll be out of the house. Don't save yet. You
aren't healed at all. Instead go back up to Aeris' Room, the one that you
were in and enter it. You'll be asked if you watn to take a nap or not. Say
yes to the nap and then you'll be all charged up and ready to go. Now you
may Save
Go to Sector 5. This time remember to buy the Mythril Armlet, if you haven't
done so. Make sure that you save at least 200 gils for the Battery. It could
100 though, keep 200 just in case. Besides after sellig that many ethers,
you should have more than enough gills to buy those 3 Armlets anyways. Just
don't spend them all. You need them for other important stuff later in the
game. Also, it would be great if you bought yourself 6-10 Hypers, they are
optional, but they do make the upcoming fights go a little bit faster as
well. Buy the batteries too.
Next go to the wall and climb it to the top. Grab the ether by putting a
battery in. Make yourself to the top.
A little fact about the Shinra Building before you keep going. It's good to
know. The first two floors, floor 1 and floor 59 are the ones that you
should really hate. When you first get there and you go into a random
battle, you can't escape any of it. If you do happen to stubble on one, then
it would be best to quickly restart. Yet after you start collecting the key
cards, these random battles will be escapable, I wonder why. Do they think
you work there or something?
It's better to take the Stairs than to rush in and attack whatever is in your
way. Taking the stairs will only force you into one force battle. While
taking running and attacking, will get you in many battles that you can't
away from. By doing that you'll get yourself 374 EXP plus the one that the
stair group had to face as well.
Save when you get there. This might be tough. I did this thing 4 times, due
to my curosity and being stupid. Take the stairs. I know I took the stairs
4 times. I think there is about 6 differnt scence of stairs, and each stairs
has 13-14 platforms to change from. 14 if you count the one that you are
currently on. Grab the elixir and this other stuff on the way up. When you
get up, you'll have to face to face 3 Mighty Grunts, labled A, B, and C.
Honestly, I thought I could run away from this battle. But instead I can't
and I had to make this thing into a force battle. You can't go on without
the Floor 60 Key.
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FORCED BATTLE: Three Mighty Grunts HP: 230 (Each) EXP: 150 (Together)
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This battle is quite simple. Before the battle have Tifa and Barret equip on
some magic materia like ice and lightning. There should be no Restore linked
with All, that would cure everyone and well, we need Tifa and Barret to be
dead by the ending. You sense when you have one mighty grunt left on the
field. During that time prepare to KO Tifa and Barret. Before you get to
the last grunt left part, you should use every limit break that you get and
sometimes you can even use the magic to deal damage to them. The magic is
also used to kill your own party members when there limit breaks are full,
them using magic on themselves I mean. You can even equip the Cover materia
on either Tifa or Barret, since you probably want to get there 1-2 Limits
sooner or later. That's all the helpful tip that I can get, good luck.
Stats after the Forced Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1262 122 8
Barret 615 22 6
Tifa 102 100 4
Aeris 466 141 6
After the battle, quickly run for the elevator, don't waste your time. If
you get into a random battle right now, before getting into the elevator,
then you're screwed. Like I said before, the random battles in this floor
is not escaplable.
On the next floor, this is the one that made me have to run the stairs 3
times, the first time was apart of my new discovery, which I wasn't prepared
for. Anyways, back to the subject. This part. You have to get pass the
guards. If they catch you even once, you'll have to start the whole stairs
walking apart, just like me. So try not screw up. The first two is quite
easy. The last two is the part that got me, maybe because I was too
impatient or something.
On the next floor, 61, find and talk to a man that lets you respond with
'.......' Then he will give you the Floor 63 Key.
Next floor up, 62. On this floor, it should matter, but I'm not gonna
care. I don't want that stupid 'Elemental' materia. Just go talk to he
major and start from the very first option and move all the way down. If
you really want it that badly, you can always try the library guess thingy
or you could go all the way back to level 1 and save before doing this
part. After that he'll give you the Level 64 Key
Moving along. For the next floor, 63. I'm just going to copy and paste this
from AA's Guide. I'll credit him for this part though:
'Run to the room with the computer terminal [one room under the stairs]. You
will be allowed to open three doors to get all the prizes which you want.
Head to the back right corner of this floor. Run left and open the first
door that you come too. Head left again until you come to another door.
Do NOT unlock this one, instead, open the other door at this intersection
[it is below you]. You'll now be able to run into a normal room and grab
the prize [coupon A]. In this small room, head into the ventilation shaft.
Inside of the shaft, head down, right and then up at the first chance you
get. When you get out of the shaft, grab the prize [coupon B]. Exit this
room by heading down and make a left. Use your final door key too unlock
the door in front of the very middle room. Grab the prize in there
[coupon C] and head back the way you came to the computer terminal.
Exchange your coupons for an: all materia, star pendant, and four slots.'
*NOTE* You must get the Star Pendant, no matter what
Now go to level 64. This is the best floor out of all them because you can
heal yourself and save at the same time. While at it go the lockers and grab
whatever is available, I remember an ether being in there as well. Remember
to save
In level 65, you'll have to play this treassure hunting quest. I can't give
you any pointers, just don't ever go into the same room twice in a row. If
you run into a battle, even though the chances are slim, just run away. When
are the pieces are done there will still be the unopended one by the stairs
you just came in from. Open that treassure chest to get Level 66 Key.
In the 66th floor, follow Hojo and then into the bathroom. Then reach up and
go inside and listen to the meeting. Next exit out and follow Hojo up the
stairs.
67 floor, follow Hojo and you'll see a small scence with Jenova's head. Keep
going forward and you'll get a Poison materia that's in the treassure chest.
Save here. Now I strongly advise you to steal 6 items, 5 Carbon Bangles and
a Hardedge. Carbon Bangle can be stolen from Moth Slashers. They are tough,
so heal whenenever they are past the mid life. Hardedge is real pain in the
neck to get. Hardedge can be stolen from Soldiers 3rd, these guys are
deadly. The way that I got them was get into a battle with two. Kill one of
them and steal from the other one. In the process, I made that Soldier use
up all his skill moves that he couldn't do anything to be. Remember to use
Defend, it will be of great help and Cover too. Another thing I like to
remind you, after you have seen the scence in which Hojo talks to Nanaki,
for some odd reason, you won't be able to go any other floors.
After that save and let's face the experiment, H0512
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BOSS BATTLE: H0512 and his opt.s HP: 1000 EXP: 300
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For this battle, Cloud should take all the EXPs. So put the Star Pendant
on Cloud. For this battle, you'll use Cloud, Nanaki, and Tifa. Place at
least a Restore materia on Cloud, you'll need this because when Nanaki
and Tifa are dead, this will make him stay alive. Speaking of which, you
really don't need to attack Nanaki nor Tifa in this battle, the poison
that they'll recieve from H0512 is more than to kill by the time you're
trying to kill it. Don't worry about the opts, I know they can be a real
pest at times, but make sure to bring H0512 before the backup twos are
dead, at least till his life is at 100 or so. That way Cloud can use one
Cross Slash to finish him off. Putting a Cure linked with All materia
on Tifa will come in handy, since 1000 is a large ammount of HP to
deplete. Don't worry about Sense, Nanaki already has it with him during
the battle. During the battle, be sure to waste all of Nanaki's MP on
fire on H0512, you probably can't even use all of them by the time
Nanaki is dead. Tifa should try to do most of the healing, so that
Cloud will have enough HP to stay alive. This battle can be long as
hell, but try to maintain your balance. Added later: Elemental linked
with Poison for the armor doesn't really work very well. Sometimes
the poison still connects.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1562 372 9
Barret 765 215 7
Tifa 102 100 4
Aeris 616 319 7
Nanaki 961 423 8
After this battle, remember to grab the E-Skill before leaving this place.
It doesn't matter who you pick for the next party, you'll go to jail
anyways. After picking the party, go talk to the lady that is nearby, that
is seeing all the action. After talking to her, you should get level key.
Now go to the floor that has the save point and the healing beds. Heal
yourself, after that save, and then continue with going to the elevator and
getting caught.
A long conversation will progress and you'll end up in jail. More talking
and selecting. Jail Door is open, talk to the downed guard and then to
Tifa. Then to
*NOTE*: I'm not sure about this or not, but it would be best to take the Star
Pendant off of Cloud. I'm not sure if you can take it off later on.
Tifa again, talk to Barret and then talk to Tifa again. Make your way back
to the President's floor, Save. Go outside to Rufus. Talk with Rufus and
Cloud is only one that stays, other leave. Your party now is only with
Aeris, Barret, and Nanaki. Too bad you couldn't save again, that would've
been great. You'll also be asked if you want Tifa and Cloud's materia
removed, hell yes you do.
Go to the stairs and it's time to face the Heli Gunner.
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BOSS BATTLE: Heli Gunner HP: 1600 and 1000 EXP: 250
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Before going into this battle, let's make a lot of preparations. First
off, you must know that Aeris is the only one left standing in this
battle, that is why you should give the Star Pendant to him. Give Nanaki
or Barret the Talisman that you got from H0512. Give sense to someone.
Use Aeris' Healing Wind with great timing. Put Cure linked with All on
Barret. Aeris should have a lightning materia on her. Only have Barret
attack and Aeris heal everyone. When you get either limit breaks for
Barret or Nanaki, use it, unless it can kill him. In that case, make
sure Nanaki and Barret are KOed. During times when neither Nanaki or
Aeris is doing any action, have them use defend. Another thing, for
this battle, have every in the back row. On the second guy, you don't
need to start killing any of your allies, this guy can inflict poison.
The bad part is that he can inflict sleep as well. Use Aeris to wake
them if you need to, but be careful. When the Heli Gunner has less
than 70 HP, kill Barret and Nanaki, then have Aeris cast Lightning
for the final touch. You can use up to 20 Grenades if so happen
Nanaki and Barret dies before the damage is done to lower the boss'HP.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1687 247 9
Barret 765 215 7
Tifa 227 145 5
Aeris 866 69 7
Nanaki 961 423 8
After that battle, Cloud will face off with Rufus and Dark Nation. Make sure
to take off the stuff from the rest of the members. Give Cloud a Restore for
the armor materia, Bio linked with Elemental on the weapon. This will give
you the upper advantage of giving Rufus poison
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BOSS BATTLE: Rufus and Dark Nation HP: 500/140 EXP: 310
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This battle is one of the easiest I faced. In the beginning, use Bio All.
Hopefully it inflicts Bio on Rufus. If it doesn't, o well. Next your
limit bar should be really high right now, due to Dark Nation's attacks.
Use Cross Slash on Dark Nation when you get the chance. That will kill
it. Next, make sure your HP is high, so use cure on Cloud. While waiting
for your limit bar to fill up, keep on casting Bio onto Rufus or
attacking with your weapon, until poison is inflicted. Then use
lightning or regular attacks, while waiting for your limit bar to fill
up all the way. Cast cure when needed and use Cross Slash when you</pre><pre id="faqspan-3">
get the chance. The battle will then end.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1997 617 10
Barret 920 60 7
Tifa 382 234 6
Aeris 1021 342 8
Nanaki 1116 268 8
After the battle, Rufus will say time it up and leave. Then you'll control
Cloud. Now you should to the next floor down and save before talking to
Tifa. After talking to Tifa. A long scence will take place and follow by a
mini-game. During the beginning of the mini-game, lets prepare for
Motorball, the next boss.
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BOSS BATTLE: Motorball HP: 2600 EXP: 440
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Your party should consist of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. Having Aeris taking
all the EXP for this battle. Have everyone in the front row, it'll
transverse when the battle begins, and put everyone in the back row
instead. Cloud and Aeris should have Cure linked with All. Aeris should
also have the Lightning materia on her. Cloud should have Cover, making
his Limit bar fill up faster. I can't say anything for Tifa, she can be
KOed for the whole battle for all I care. You can use her to attack and
unleash or limit breaks, even though they're pretty weak, but still it
might get her the 1-2 that you haven't gotten yet.
It's possible to have Cloud and Tifa KOed by the Motorball's second
attack and still have Aeris win the battle. You know why? Because I was
that lucky survior in that battle. Have her cast lightning or even start
using up the rest of your Grenades to attack him. Be alert if Aeris' MP
goes down though, that's a sign to stop using your lightning and cure
whenever possible. Throw the rest of your Grenades, at least tell me you
have at least 10 left to begin with, and you should be able to beat this
guy.
Another way you can look at this, is by having Cloud put this combination
into his weapon, Elemental linked with Lightning. It should cause more
damage than before, but I haven't done this yet. You can try it out
though.
Stats after Boss Battle
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1997 617 10
Barret 1140 288 8
Tifa 382 234 6
Aeris 1461 444 9
Nanaki 1336 48 8
When this battle ends, everyone will start talking. They'll plan to head to
Kalm. Pick Aeris, Cloud, and Tifa for the party. You'll be using them until
Aeris departs. So it'll be wise to start getting use to this now.
Once you arrive at Kalm, you can go into every store, except for the inn and
try to get some of the ethers that you have gotten before in your previouse
games, if you still remember them. Otherwise, it's time to see Cloud's past.
Oh, joy!
I personally hate this part, I've seen it too many times, and it goes
forever. So I decided to get past this thing the easy way. I use my turbo
fire controller and set it on repeated confirm. Sometimes I'll need to walk a
certain way with Cloud, but it's still good. In the meantime I can use the
bathroom or make a meal or something.
After seeing all of that. It's time to do some shopping. Go to the materia
store and buy 2 Steal materias. They are needed very much. These investments
will get you the moolah that makes this game a lot easier. If you want spend
some more, a few phoenix downs would be good enough, followed by some new
equipment would also be nice. You can sell some of your old armor is you
want, I just keep them because I know that I'll have all the money I want
sooner or later. When buying equipment, make sure to see which ones are
stronger, the one that you currently have or the buy thats for sale. Don't
buy the Mythril Armlets if you already have the Carbon Bangles. Don't buy
the Cannon Ball.
Get in the world map and save. Give everyone Steal materia, and have two
your people have Restore linked with All. Turn your speed down to 75% of
maximum and set it on for active.
This is what you do. You are suppose to steal from 2 types of enemies, Kalm
Fangs and the Custom Sweepers. Kalm Fangs hold Ethers, which makes your
wallet full. Custom Sweepers are the ones that you must steal to get
Barret's weapon, Atomic Scissors. This might be needed for the fight against
Dyne, but there could be something better than this along the way.
I'll try to keep stealing till I get 50,000 or more. You could do this later
if you want. Getting HP Pluss and then doing this later is fine as well. I
just want to get a heard start, that's all. Proceeding now.
Head for the Chocobo Ranch and enter. Talk to the Chocobo and say 'Wark' to
them to get the Choco/Mog materia, this is free and nice, treasure it well.
Go talk to the Chocobo boy and buy a Chocobo Lure materia. You won't catch
Chocobos for right now.
*IMPORTANT NOTE*: The ultimate attack for this game is Chocobuncle. You might
laugh for right now, but sooner or later this will be the best dam attack
ever. You just need to flee like hell, thats all. Before you even start
thinking about getting this attack, we must account for the EXP that we'll
get from the battle. When I figure out how to get I'll tell you. The old
fashion way is to use Lvl 4 Suicide on a level 4 Chocobo, I'll have to do
something else.
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Mythril Mine and Junon
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Use the Save trick to walk across the the swamp and avoiding the Zolom. We
don't need to fight him for right now, or any part of the game as a matter
of fact. Watch a Zolom being killed by Sephiroth and enter the Mythril
Mines. Be sure to get the Long Range, you need this for.
*NOTE*: While in the Mythril Mines, try to steal a Grand Glove from Madagoue.
the next boss battle. This is only materia worth taking from this place.
Meet the Turks and now head for the Fort Condor to heal yourself up. Don't
buy anything from there, resting is just fine. Now you reach Junon. First
thing you should buy, at least 20-30 grenades for the next two boss fights.
Those should do nicely. Go to the dam and let's face Bottomswell.
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BOSS BATTLE: Bottomswell HP: 2500 EXP: 550
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For this battle, it will be a long task. Give Cloud the Long Range
materia. Everyone have at least one damage inflicting magic materia on
them, use the ones you have. Someone with Sense on. All linked with
Restore. Limit yourself to using only 10-15 grenades for this battle.
When Bottomswell life is down to 100 or less, let Cloud and Tifa be KOed
and let Aeris take all the EXP. For the Bubble that this guy makes, use
the magic inflicter to destroy it, espically when it's on Aeris.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1997 617 10
Barret 1415 13 8
Tifa 382 234 6
Aeris 2011 564 10
Nanaki 1611 323 9
After the battle, give Priscila CPR. Next go to the Inn and talk to women
standing there. Choose to rest. Wake the next morning and head for
Priscila's House. Buy more Grenades
*Note*:I forgot to add one thing, she give you Shiva materia, no use though.
or phoenix downs if you want. Then move on and do the Dolphin mini-game.
Climb to the top, talk with the Leader and Save afterwards. Do the march, I
really don't care what kind of rating you get, it doesn't matter to me. Go
back to the locker room and say all clear. Save again if you wish. Now lets
do some shopping. On the first screen, there are only two things out those
shops that I actually bought, the Striking Stick for Aeris and a Revive
materia just in case I run out of phoenix downs. On the second screen, grab
the E-Skill materia and don't buy anything. Headband would be nice and all,
but no.
During the pose for the President, try to get from 60 to 90 points. There
are two good reasons to get HP PLus. Force Stealer only costs 2200 and it
can be bought in Corel, while HP Plus cost 8000 and can be bought in Cosmo
Canyon. The price and the location is good proof enough. Silver Glasses is a
weak item, prevent blind, you don't need that right now.
Go on board the ship. On the ship, pick up the All materia. Go talk to Aeris
twice and then go to the top floor and talk to every single one there. Go
back and talk to Aeris. Go find Barret and talk to him twice. Leave and go
save, proceed forward. Once again pick Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. Maker sure
that Aeris has the HP Plus on her, we need to start adding AP on to it.
Everyone should have a magic inflicing materia. All linked with Restore for
everyone. Head to where Sephiroth is. Before fighing him, you should
consider stealing Shinra something, it's a armor, from the Shinra troops.
I can't really say they are strong in battle, buy at least they have a
higher defense than your current armor. That sideback is that it doesn't
have any Magic Defense in them. Put the Power Wrist on Cloud.
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Jenova's Birth HP: 4000 EXP: 680
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Judging from the HP number, you know this will be a very long fight. This
battle is simple, just heal when neccessary. Try to use up most of your
grenades if you want or you can save them for later. Restore linked with
All is a must. Sense is also needed. The same preparation like the last
battle, except this time you have a few better equipment and the HP Plus.
Don't use poison on him.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 1997 617 10
Barret 1755 240 9
Tifa 382 234 6
Aeris 2691 851 11
Nanaki 1951 663 10
After this battle, pick up the Ifrit materia off the ground. Talk some more
and the boat begins to dock. Buy what you want. I personally didn't buy
anything because I felt it was worthless. But do pick up the Fire Ring
though from the Suite, it is needed very much for a boss battle, do get it.
Leave for the Corel Train tracks now.
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Corel and Gold Saucer
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In the Corel Train tracks, pick up every thing. The Transform materia might
come in handy later on, I think. Grab the two weapons and thats about it.
Also while walking on the wooden bridge, you'll only encounter Bombs in this
area. Remember to steal from them Right Arms, they are better than Grenades,
but only when attacking a group of enemies.
In Corel, you can buy the Force Stealer if you want, I did. Molotov is
optional. After that proceed to Gold Saucer. Make sure you have 3000 gils to
spare, if you don't start selling your inventory till you do. Then buy the
ticket, for 3000 for the ticket. After the conversations, head to Wonder
Square to get Cait Sith, which I refer to him as just Cait.
Here is his stats:
Stats Check for Cait
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cait 1418 544 9
For me, I had plenty of gil to spare so I decided to buy the 30000 instead,
which in someways, I did regret later on.
Then go to the Battle Square and have you'll be sent to the Desert Prison.
While down there, find and talk to Barret. Then go find Dyne. Don't, I
repeat, don't get the E-Skill's Matra Magic and Laser from the enemies
here, that will only rack up even more EXP. We can live without them. Dyne..
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BOSS BATTLE: Dyne HP: 1200 EXP: 600
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Just to let you know, only Barret will take him on, one on one. That
means everyone else will get inactive party EXP, half of 600. The weapon
doesn't matter too much, it's the armor, try to give him your best at
this time. Make sure he has the materia that you want APs on and also
include the Restore materia. In the battle, keep on attacking until your
limit bar is filled up. Use defend when Barret's limit bar is almost
filled up, that way he can take in less damage and still get a limit
break. Use your limit breaks every chance you get them, but make sure
you won't die on the next 2 hits. He can attack two times, sometimes,
before you can even make a move on him.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 2297 317 10
Barret 2355 340 10
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 2991 551 11
Nanaki 2251 363 10
Cait 1718 244 9
After the battle more talking. Then you'll be playing the Chocobo race. When
in the room with Joe, grab the Ramuh materia, it's needed. During the race,
remember to hold all the Ls or all the Rs, sorry I forgot which ones, to
raise your stamina. During the whole process hold those buttons with the
Square. Use the sprint when needed. After winning the race you'll be given
your freedom and the Buggy. With the Buggy, head to Cosmo Canyon.
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Cosmo Canyon
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At Cosmo Canyon, buy only armor and HP Plus'. I can manage to get 3 HP Plus,
with that you can get through the next couple bosses, at least that is what
I did. You can buy more if you want. Talk to Nanaki's grandpa and be ready
to head into the Gi Cave's. Your party should be Cloud, Tifa, and Nanaki. I
choose Tifa because she won't get any EXP in the battles, only Cloud will
take the full EXP for these 3 battles. Aeris will get the inactive party
EXP. Also buy plenty of phoenix downs, like 10 is good enough.
For me, I also bought Butterfly Edge and the Tiger Fang, for Cloud and Tifa.
Enter the Gi Cave, you probably should've saved before so. Make sure you have
Restore linked with All for everyone. Run from all battles and please pick up
the Added Effect materia, this is also needed for later strategies. There
will be two forced battles up ahead, two Stingers. Take the second hole from
the left.
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FORCED BATTLE: (2) Stingers HP: 2200 (4400 together) EXP: 290
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The battle with the stinger is some what tough. I'm not saying that they are
hard, it's that you have to kill Nanaki and Tifa in both battles. Then you
have to revive them for the next one. That is where the phoenix downs comes
in. Use every limit break you get. Also equip yourself with Sense. Try to
use everything that I told you before. I can't say too much about this
battle. After the 2nd Stinger, keep Nanaki and Tifa dead for the battle
against Gi Nattak.
Stats the Two Force Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 2877 711 11
Barret 2645 50 10
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 3571 261 12
Nanaki 2251 363 10
Cait 2008 644 10
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BOSS BATTLE: Gi Nattak HP: Doesn't matter EXP: 1400
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If you did like I asked then this will be a simple battle. Have Cloud
have in his armor Elemental linked with Fire. In the beginning of the
battle, throw an elixir at Gi Nattak. Since I didn't kill the other
Stinger, this is what you must use. Death will be cast on him and the
battle is over. Fire Ring is used, when you have enough of these games.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 4277 333 12
Barret 3345 344 11
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 4271 279 12
Nanaki 2251 363 10
Cait 2708 931 11
After the battle, get the Gravity materia, just for collection. I haven't
figured out a good use for it yet. Nanaki will daydream now. Moving on. Exit
Cosmo Canyon.
For the next 3 and a half hours, I will be wasting my time trying to power up
Chocobuncle, which I still haven't gotten yet. But at the same time I'll be
getting stuff to prepare myself for Materia Keeper. As for my advice, read
on and don't do what I did. I won't tell you what I did, 3 hours of BS can
sum it up.
Take the buggy and go to Costa del Sol. Aboard the ship back to Junon. Once
out of Junon, you should take your buggy and go to the sleeping man's cave,
you'll need the buggy to do so. Go talk to the Sleeping man. He'll tell you
3 different things, one is about the huge materia, one is about how many
times you've escaped (a good way to know about Chocobuncle), the last thing
he will tell you how many battles you've been in. How many battles you've
been is what you need to see. Try to get the last 2 digits being odd, like:
111, 244, 477 etc... Do this and you'll get a Bolt Ring. If you get evens
instead, you'll get mythril, which in this challenge is rather pointless. I
will now tell you what I did for the next 3 hours, I will go into many
battles and try to get a second bolt ring and at the same time be traveling
from this cave and Kalm by collecting Ethers and Boomerangs. Happy now.
When I stopped doing that, I had 270 escapes.
Get that one Bolt Ring and thats good enough. Now go to Kalm or near the
Chocobo Farm and start stealing Ethers until you get at least 30 or 40. In
my case, I stole 70 or so. From that 70, I sold 50 of them and kept the
other 20. You'll need the Ethers for the battle against Materia Keeper. Now
go buy yourself at least 20 Grenades, 10 Tents, and 20 Phoenix Downs,
remember to keep the 20 Ethers.
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Nibelheim and Mt. Nibel
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Now head to Nibelheim. Get Tifa's Platinum Fist from her house. Don't open
the safe and fight Missing Number. Just collect all the weapons from this
place and then go to the bottom basement where the library is. After talking
the Sephiroth, he'll throw the Destruct materia at you.
Go to Mt. Nibel. You can pick up the weapons along the way. Lower the ladder
before jumping into one of those pipes. They thing you should be interested
in is the All materia that's there. After that save. Before fighting Materia
Keeper, go to the lower center of this screen. You should be a ledge and
further more as you travel you can get a Elemental materia, take this. It
will become part of a strategy.
Go back into the room with Materia Keeper. Just to let you know, you have to
talk to it before you can battle it. Anyhow, save again. Now you must steal
3 Gold Armlets, or 5, for your active party. And then try to use this set
up, this is mine when I beated him. It was easy to some level.
Cloud Butterfly Edge Added Effect=Choco/Mog Restore=All
Gold Armlet Elemental=Ramuh Sense=Revive
Power Wrist
Tifa Tiger Fang All=Poison All=Restore
Gold Armlet Elemental=Lightning Chocobo Lure=Cover
Protect Vest
Aeris Wizer Staff Three (3) HP Plus' and Long Range
Gold Armlet All=Restore Two (2) Enemy Skill
Bolt Ring
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BOSS BATTLE: Materia Keeper HP: 8400 EXP: 3000
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Since you have plenty of Ether, don't mind using all the MPs you want.
Elemental=Lighting isn't needed since Tifa does die after every Trine.
Long Range and All=Poison are also not needed, but Poison is needed.
Before goint into battle, best to have Cloud and Aeris' limit bar at
full. At the start of the battle, have either one use Cross Slash or Seal
Evil, don't use both of them. Use it when needed, like when he is still
moving. After that have Tifa cast Bio on him, keep casting until he is
poisoned. When it does, he will now lose roughly 200 each time. Don't let
your guard down yet. Cast Sense to see how much he have left. Remember
to kill off Tifa an Cloud before he dies. You can even use Grenades to
have them KOed. Tifa will die most often due to her low HP. You can
revive if you want, but it's a waste of MP, instead just keep healing and
attacking. You can even just kill off Tifa and Cloud and keep casting
Seal Evil on Materia until he has no more life. Oh, one more thing, hope
you get Trine. If you do, cast away, this will speed up the process. Heal
when needed, only use All when everyone is needed, otherwise just cast it
on the person that was hurt.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 4277 333 12
Barret 4845 1046 13
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 7271 1409 15
Nanaki 3751 859 12
Cait 4208 467 12
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Rocket Town
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After the battle, get the Counterattack Materia and exit Mt. Nibel. Save on
the world screen. Continue to Rocket Town. Find the Little Bronco and then
go talk to Cid. Come back and yadayada. I don't want to explain too much.
You can buy weapons and materia here, but I would advise not to, Palmer
isn't tough and you don't need to waste your money here. Go talk to the man
standing and staring at the Rocket to get Cloud's weapon and open the chests
in this town to get Barret's other weapon, which isn't needed at this time.
Before going back to Cid's House though, Save on the world map. Once you
enter Cid's House, Cid should come and it's time to face Palmer.
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BOSS BATTLE: Palmer HP: 6000 EXP: 1800
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You can basically keep the same equipment and the same materia placement
as last time. Choco/Mog, Cross Slash, Seal Evil to stun Palmer. Cast Bio
on him until it sticks and see his HP wittle away. Cast Trine and attack
until his HP is lower than 1000. Kill off Cloud and Tifa, and cast Trine
a couple more times and he is finished. Heal when needed.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 4277 333 12
Barret 5745 228 13
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 9071 1401 16
Nanaki 4651 1158 13
Cait 5108 783 13
After this battle, a scence will occur. Later, get Cid. Here's his stats.
Cid's Stats Check:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cid 5909 1393 14
Now that you have the Little Bronco, we can do many things. Going to Wutai
is optional, but very helpful. In Wutai you can buy some Swift Bolts and
Fire Veils. Besides that, there isn't anything very useful. Now here is a
list that you must get.
# 3 Spider Webs from Kimara Bugs. There are located where you were suppose to
meet Reno and Rude in Gongaga, but I skipped that part in this challenge.
Steal it from them.(optional) While there, get the Deathblow materia as well
# 15-25 Right Arms from Bombs. They are located on the wooden bridge that you
past by while you were trying to go Corel. They're there frequently. Steal
it from them. (I got 33 just in case some missed, which they don't, LOL)
# Buy 3 Diamond Bangles from the Digging Place in the north continent.
# Buy a Time materia either in Rocket Town or Gongaga. While in Rocket Town,
you could also buy Barrier, but I don't know if it's much help or not.
# Buy at least 15 Phoenix Downs and 15 Hi-Potions.
# Buy at least 6 Tranquilzers
Since getting E-Skill is getting EXP as well. I will not get either Beta, Big
Guard, nor Aqualung. I do have Trine right now, but I will not use it against
the next two bosses. Now you are thing, is this possilbe. I can tell you,
it is possible.
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Return to Gold Saucer and Temple of Ancients
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Go to Gold Saucer and go on the date. Then head to the Ancient Temple. Have
a save before entering, just so that you can back track if you needed to.
Pick up all the treasure along the way. Make sure you get the Morph materia,
I have a big future with that. Don't forget to get the Luck Plus materia as
well, it's a lost item and it proves to be useful in boss battles as well.
Don't use up any Limit Break on Cloud and Aeris, they're needed.
In the Clock room, head into 4, 5, and 7. They contain very good equipments,
along with the almighty Ribbon. After that head to 6. This is what you
should do to speed this process. Jump into these holes, not including the
one you just came out of, 4 to get the wizard. Then go to the lowest floor
and get the treasure chest and then 9. Exit out of this screen. Go back in
and the wizard will be on the first floor. Check your materia and save.
This is the materia combo I had when facing the Red Dragon. Also move Right
Arms, Phoenix Downs, and Spider Webs to the top of the item list. Set Battle
Speed on 50% or lower.
Cloud Butterfly and Diamond Bangle Steal, Sense, Restore=All, anything else
Aeris Princess Guard 3 HP Plus, Counterattack, All=Restore, Luck Plus
Diamond Bangle Elemental=Ice, Elemental=Fire
Tifa Tiger Fang and Diamond Bangle Restore=All, Chocobo Lure, Steal & Sense,
anything else
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MINI-BOSS BATTLE: Red Dragon HP: 6800 EXP: 3500
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Enter this battle with Cloud's Limit Bar being all the way full and
quickly use Cross Slash, this will stop him in his tracks. If anyone
dies, besides Aeris, don't revive them. Use Sense and Right Arms by the
turn. Since Right Arms does about 1200-1300 damage, 5 or 6 of them
should be enough to kill him. Before you kill him though, make sure
Cloud and Tifa is KOed. This battle should be easy enough.
Stats after Mini Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 4277 333 12
Barret 7495 1427 15
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 9071 1401 16
Nanaki 6401 799 14
Cait 6858 444 14
Cid 7659 1263 15
After battle, pick the Bahamut materia up. A lot of other FAQ said to use
this guy, but the things is, it's that you have low MP and using Ethers
wastes turns. Instead Right Arms are way better. Cait calls and then your
out of this room. Heal everyone with the wizard. DON'T PUT THE DRAGON ARMLET
ON AERIS because if you do, after the next battle against Demon's Gate, you
won't get it back. Try to make a materia setup similiar to this:
Cloud Butterfly and Dragon Armlet Restore=All, All=Time, All=Revive
Aeris Princess Guard 3 HP Plus, Counterattack, Steal, Deathblow , Luck Plus
Diamond Bangle Steal, Steal, All=Restore, Chocobo Lure
Tifa's doesn't matter much, just keep the same equipment, All=Materia, Sense.
Set Battle Speed at lowest. Heal yourself. Save. Then give everyone
tranquilzers so that everyone is on sadness. Then head for...
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BOSS BATTLE: Demon's Gate HP: 10000 EXP: 3800
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His life is what you must be very concerned with. At the beginning of
the battle, best to pray Aeris gets attacked but not be KOed by it. If
this happens, have the other party members use Spider Web followed by a
Phoenix Down. If that doesn't occur, at the beginning of the battle have
Cloud cast Haste on everyone or Aeris throw a Spider Web at Gate, which
ever comes first. Tifa's first turn should be to heal all, heal one, use
phoenix down, or use Right Arms. If she dies, no biggie, I don't see
any reason to bring her up though. Aeris' limit break Healing Wind is
crucial in this battle. If Cloud is KOed, have Tifa use a phoenix down
on him and quickly use Healing Wind, then a Heal all. That all I can
say about beginning tactics. Added Later: use Hi-Potion before the bar
fills up all the way, then quickly use Healing Wind to bring Aeris' Hp
to full.
After you've thrown your 4th or 5th Right Arm, he should be a phase
which he is slower than normal. Heal everyone up to full life, he's
about to use Demon's Rush. At the same time throw Right Arms until
you've reaced your 8th one. The 9th and 10th one are the ones that can
kill him. Use sense to see how much he has left. After you've thrown
your 8th one, make sure Aeris' life is fully healed and put her in
defend mode. Better yet,you can use a calculator since using Sense
wastes a turn. Make sure Cloud and Tifa are KOed before you kill him
though.
Stats after Boss Battle:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 4277 333 12
Barret 9395 1518 16
Tifa 682 267 7
Aeris 12871 Doesn't matter anymore 18
Nanaki 8301 496 15
Cait 8758 164 14
Cid 9559 1206 16
I have played this guy over 15 times. I have beaten him 3 times and almost
once. In those 3 times I have managed to kill him, but Cloud and Tifa wasn't
KOed, so I had to start all over again. That almost once was just bad luck.
Besides that, he is very powerful. I think this should be one of the hardest
battle in this whole challenge. It's not being able to beat him that I'm
worried about, it's how to survive with Aeris only at the end. Sometimes your
bad luck will start at the his second turn, in which case he rams everyone
and they're all dead. He is beatable though, be patient. Later Added: This
battle will only be hard if you don't have Big Guard with you, like what I
did for my battle.
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With this plan I got most of everyone to level 28 or under by the end of disc
2. I don't know about my Cloud and Vincient. Cloud could be at level 27 or
28 and Vincient can be from level 27-29. When I'm typing this out, I haven't
done the Raid in Midgar part yet. Here it is:
BOSS NAME Survivor KOed
Jenova's Life Cloud Cait and Cid
3 Icicles (A) Cloud Cait and Cid
(B) Cloud Cait and Cid
(C) Cloud Cait and Tifa
Schizo Cloud Cait and Cid
Jenova's Death Cloud Cait and Tifa
Corel Guards Nanaki Cait and Cid
Big Guard Nanaki Cait and Cid
Magic Hammer Nanaki Cait and Cid
White Wind Nanaki Cait and Cid
Underwater Army
a.(1700) Cloud Cait and Cid
b.(1700) Cloud Cait and Cid
c.(2550) Cloud Cait and Barret
d.(1640) Cloud Cid and Barret
Carry Armor Nanaki Cloud and Barret
(Carry Armor's is lowerable)
e.(1700) Nanaki Cloud and Barret
f.(1700) Nanaki Cloud and Barret
g.(2550) Nanaki Cloud and Barret
Rocket Shinra Army
a.( 600) Cloud Cid and Barret
b.( 600) Cloud Cid and Barret
c.(1530) Cloud Cid and Barret
Rude (lowerable) Cloud Cid and Barret
d.( 930) Cloud Cid and Barret
Diamond Weapon Tifa Cloud and Nanaki
Yuffie Cloud Barret and Cid
Turks in Shinra Yuffie Cloud and Tifa
Iron Clad Cloud Yuffie and Tifa
Hojo Yuffie Cloud and Tifa
I know this isn't the lowest EXP possilbe, I'm not an EXP expert ok, unlike
someone else I know. (Namely: GarlandG) Even though I made a few errors, at
the end I still could get everyone to level 28, maybe Cloud will be lucky and
stay at 27, until Vincient's Missing Number. No matter what anyone saids,
these are the lowest average level for everyone. Couple key points you must
remember though.
1. Carry Armor's EXP can be lowered due to how many arms you take off. The
best way to get the lowest EXP is beat him leaving both arms alive at the
end.
2. Rude in Rocket Town can be lowered if you don't kill the two cronies that
is with him. Even though though you get less EXP, I'm not too sure if you
can steal the Ziedrich if did so. Added Later, if you stick with this
concept, no, you won't be able to steal the Ziedrich
3. About the Enemy Skills that I got later on after the North Craters. I
believe those could be gotten before you enter the north crater for the
first time, with no penalties to get any higher levels. Yet, if you them
during while Cloud and Tifa are at Mideel, then those two wont any EXP
whatsoever. If you do want to get them, have Cloud as survior and Barret
and Cid as KOed when getting them, assuming that you are using the table
above. Also it's better because the 4th E-Skill can also get 3 of the 5
skills that the others have, even though you won't need the 4th one
anyways.
4. Get Yuffie only after beating Diamond Weapon. We don't need Diamond's EXP
to over kill Yuffie's level, now do we.
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North Continent
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After this battle, more storyline goes on. Then you are at Gongaga. Grab
Titan from the Reactor. Now head for the North Continent and dig that Lunar
Harp. Then go get the Kjata materia, even though you won't be able to use
it. Keep going, grab the Water Ring, it's needed very much. Once you reach
the Forgotten Capitol, take the left route and get the Aurora Armlet, this
is needed as well. Go to the right route and go to sleep. Once everyone
joins you at night, pick up the Enemy Skill materia behind the bed.
Go search of Aeris now, pick up the Comet materia along the way. Save at the
save point. Go see Aeris for the final time.
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BOSS BATTLE: Jenova's Life HP: 10000 EXP: 4000
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Put the Water Ring on Cloud and the battle will be very easy. Because
this is an easy battle, why not use it for its worth. Have Cloud equip
the Rune Sword, gotten from Mt. Nibel, it has double AP. You can put
either the Rune Armlet or Edincoat on. Try to put every high experienced
materia on Cloud, especially the HP Plus'. Put all Enemy Skill materia
on Barret and hope that Jenova uses Aqualung before Barret dies, use
high potions when Barret take damage. Water Ring will absorb every attack
Jenova has to offer. To kill Jenova, use Right Arms or use regular
attack. If you decide to use regular attack, cast haste on Cloud.
After she is defeated, more storyline will take place. Then save your game
and lets move on to disc 2.
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DISC 2
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Before you go any further in game. I want you to know that I'll do some
powering up. Your probably asking what I mean. You aren't suppose to level
up in this challenge. I plan to get Power Sources. There is only one way
from my research that I found it possible to get these Sources without
getting any EXP. I will take a long time to do, but I think it's worth it.
You probably might not think so.
Take your highest HP people. I pick Cloud, Barret, and Cait. One with the
Steal materia and Morph materia, I pick Cloud. One with the Manipulate, I
pick Barret. One with Steal and Deathblow. And everyone put on All=Restore
to heal yourself. Now head to Corel Mountain. Walk around the front of the
reactor. You'll encounter this guy called a Screamer, he holds a ball and
swings it. He has 800 HP and can be morphed into power sources. You'll
encounter 2 of these or 2 of these and a twin brain in a single battles.
Now you have to morph the Screamers, but make sure at least one enemy is
alive so that you can run away. That is why I like the Twin Brain with 2
Screamer battle. In that battle, manipulate Twin Brain so that he doesn't
cast stop on you. Instead, cast it on the screamers. You can also
manipulate the Screamer as well. Becareful on using your limit breaks,
these Screamers aren't really common you know. At the same time, you can
steal an ether from the Twin Brain to heal yourself up. I got my Cloud to
50 Strength before leaving this place. I don't know if it helps or not,
but it's worth a shot. A even more better way to use the manipulate materia
is to get the Hypno Crown from cracks in the wall when you were climbing
near to Icicle Town.
Next, go steal Right Arms from Bombs until you get 33, just in case. After
that may you keep playing. Get more money if you want. I don't think it's
needed though. I just want the next two battles a little bit faster, as
stated before, this is not needed at all. You could always attack 50-200 or
deal 1000+ per turn, depending on your style.
Buy about 30 phoenix downs and hi-potions, if I didn't already say so
Go back to the Forgotten Capitol and head to the Icicle Town. Near the
cracks in the wall, grab the Hypno Crown, Bolt Armelt, and Magic Plus
materia. The others are not special enough for me to say. Head to Icicle
Village now, all the way.
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Icicle Village
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The only thing I bought are Cloud's Weapon 'Organics' do to its slot, in
hopes of getting more AP for my materia. Later I learned, AP doesn't matter
too much in this game anymore. It's too low to level them up anyways. So my
advice is that you don't buy anything whatsoever. Go to the top of the
screen and attmept to leave. Elena will come, grab the skateboard, and the
map and then leave this place. Don't pick the Hero Drink up. What would you
do when someone stole it. Just leave it be.
Get pass the Great Glaciers. I didn't get anything from this place and I did
fine. Get the northmost place. Enter the Inn with the old man and rest. Get
a party of anyone you like, you can change them later on. Pick up the Ribbon
on your way up to fighting the (3) Icicles. Grab the Fire Armlet nearby and
Last Elixir if you want.
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Forced Battles: (3) Icicles HP: 3000 Each
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These are in fact some of the hardest battles I've ever faced in my life.
Due to not getting Fire Ring and other stuff, I had to do these battles
over 20 times and having three rounds of full clearance and then ruined
by Stilva. Anyways this what you do. Don't kill any of the bats, don't
remember the name. Definetly use Sense on the Icicle. Demi to lower it's
HP by half, it can miss though, but not too often. Be prepared to use
Ethers if you are low on HP. You can manipulate the bats and attack the
Icicle if you want, note that it deals 200+. The bats can be slowed down
so use a Spider Web and cast Haste/Big Guard afterwards. These battles
are beatable without Big Guard or any other E-Skills. Use only Hi-Potions
to heal. Transform=All does work, but its random, mini on all the bats.
Use Cait's Limit with caution, it can even deal 1100. Cloud's Cross Slash
can deal anywhere from 600-700s. Best to use 2 Demis. Using the
bat's silience attack on one of their own doesn't work, they'll still use
that 200-300 dealer no matter what. In mini mode, the bat's drain attack
does very little damage, in the teens. After two battles with Cloud,
Cait, and Cid, switch Cid with Tifa for the last battle.
After battle, cautiously heal yourself and save. Try not to die from Stilva
or any Malboros. Use tent if you feel it's neccesary. Grab the Enhance Sword
and climb some more. On the next save point that you come across please do
save. The Blue Dragons here can be very deadly but do try to run the hell
away from them.
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BOSS BATTLE: Schizo HP: 18000 each
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Be prepared before going into this battle. I can make this seem to easy
for anyone, but it will take a long time. Cloud, Cait, Cid. Cloud is
survior so give him the Aurora Armlet and Fire Ring and back him up with
as many materia as you want, try to limit on the greens and reds. Now in
this battle, Cloud has only 33%, if not lower, of actually getting
killed. Meanwhile, you can use your Right Arms or you can attack away.
Cast Haste with Time, Sense to check both of their lives, don't kill
both heads on the same turn. It's even possible to wear him down by
letting him use up all his MPs. The only two attacks that can kill
you is if he hits you with two Quakes, which is rare. O, speaking of
which, I forgot to add something. In Cloud's Aurora Armlet add this
combination (Elemental=Titan) and (Elemental=Ramuh)Make sure the other
two memeber have Steal to steal the Schizo's Right's Protect Ring. Do
get it.
Climb to the top of the Crater and then go down. Don't mess any of the
battles, even with Gigas, he can kill you in a heart beat with one attack
alone. Cloud, Tifa, and Cait. Before so, make sure to remove the others
armor. Save again after Rufus talks to his people, just incase you screw up
the Whirlwind Maze constantly. Pick up the Neo Bahamut materia. Avoid all
random encounters, even Whirlwind Maze's. Get Tifa's weapon, Kaiser
Knuckles. Keep going and it's time to face the next boss.
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BOSS BATTLE: Jenova's Death HP: 25000
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Cloud, Tifa, Cait. This battle can go on forever without the aid of Right
Arms. You can always use Magic Hammer to kill her 800 MP away and then
attack constantly. Make sure you put Fire Armlet on Cloud and Fire Ring
on someone else. This will secure your victory. Haste=All is also nice if
you plan to use full phyical attacks alone. This boss is beatable without
any E-Skill because I just did that. I didn't do that only once, I did it
4 times due to experimental and testing. You can use Cross Slash to
paralyze her, but those will be one per battle or none.
After battle, quickly revive anyone and give everyone their full HP no
matter what. I've been killed twice due to those seahorse looking things by
their two attacks and I couldn't run away and plus the fact that only Cloud
was alive at that time. Don't try to get yourself screwed over like I did.
Grab the Turbo MP materia and followed by the Poison Ring. Save during any
during those times to be safe. One more whirlwind to pass and the rest of
is just storyline. Give Cloud the weakest armor that you got and take his
accesory off. He won't need it.
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Prisoned in Junon and Huge Materia
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Control of Barret, do the routine. When you get Cait and Barret under
control, give them your best and highest defense armors, mine was Adaman
Bangles. The randon battle that you fight are phyical anyways. By the way,
all battles are escapable even the first one with guards rushing at you. Get
Tifa out the gas chamber. Get into the Highwind. Give Tifa the weakest armor
you got and take her accesory off and any other materia on her.
Places to pickup certain stuff with Highwind:
Full Cure = Cosmo Canyon
Fourth Bracelet = Rocket Town
4th Enemy Skill = Chocobo Sage
Curse Ring = Mideel
Contain = Mideel
*Optional* On a sidenote, you can get Tifa's Premium Heart and her Level
4 Limit 'Final Heaven' Later on, of course
Added Later: I don't know if I have mentioned this or not, but this the
time that I gotted my 3 Enemy Skills, and if haven't yet, you should to
unless you want to beat it without any Enemy Skills.
Go to Mideel now and Tifa will stay with Cloud. Party of Cid, Cait, Nanaki.
Go to Corel now and take the opposite path of which you took from Costa Del
Sol to Corel. Cid should have a Ribbon on him with Fourth Bracelet. Kill off
Cait and Nanaki before using Aqualung with Cid to finish them off. This
battle is too small for me to make a huge section about. For the other 5
force battles, you can just skip them and not take any EXP from them. You
won't get the Ultima materia, but who needs it anways. All you need to do
is get on the train with Cid in control. You see that 20 minute timer, well
all you have to do now is wait until that reaches zero. Make sure you don't
do anything before than. Getting too close and making Cid jump on the other
train will force you start over again from 20.
Added Later: Actually you can get the Ultima Materia. The the earliest time
you can get it is before the Diamond Weapon fight, but I think you can get
earlier than that though. Try and find out yourself.
Next Huge Materia: Fort Condor. Well you need some basic tactical skills.
Make sure you have at least 20,000 gils and the more the better. You need to
win this battle, you ain't getting no EXP from that optional boss no matter
what. I'm not gonna too indepth about this. This is what I do. Divide the
whole field into 3 chokeholes. For each chockehole have one defender, one
triple-rockroller, one healer/repairer, and two archers/shooters.
Reposition the rockroller according to your tactics. With this, add no more
army, you can beat this minigame.
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Attack on Mideel and Final Huge Materia
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Just to let you know, this is the final chance you take on getting the three
enemy skills. After that, your in danager of over leveling your people up.
After that head to Mideel.
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Quick Boss: Ultimate Weapon
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The reason why I call this a quick boss is because battling wise he is
very fast and because this battle end after he has releashed his third
attack. From my research/tests he only uses three moves in this order:</pre><pre id="faqspan-4">
Quake3-Attack-UltimaBeam. Once Ultima is done and you are still alive the
battle will end. Before the battle though. Give one person this combo:
Wizard Bracelet and Protect Ring. In the Bracelet put Elemental=Comet and
Elemental=Titan. Now for during each turn, after recieving damage, have
that person use a hi-potions on himself. You only need 2 and that you
should be it. You could steal Curse Ring, but that is just a hassle to
do.
You now will go through Cloud's memory phase. After that you will get
control of Cloud again.
*Optional* On a sidenote, you can get Tifa's Premium Heart and her Level 4
Limit 'Final Heaven' This the time to get it, once again
Head for the Junon Underwater Reactor. For the first two battles use Cloud,
Cait, and Cid. These should be easy battles. Kill off Cait and Cid, and then
have Cloud use Aqualung to quickly finish these two battles. This takes care
of Underwater Army A and B. Cloud having the Protect Ring on him is vital
key for protection, espically in these quicky battles. The Counterattack
materia on him will also be an extra plus as well, followed with Enemy Skill
and those 5 skills.
*Note*One of theese battles is escapable, from what I heard. I don't know
which one it is, I can't test it because I don't have a save from back then.
Save before fighting the next group. A word of advice, it's better to
encounter group, C, separetly. So that you can avoid the backattack, which
deals more damage than ususal. To do this, talk to the soldier that is the
closes and fight him first and then approach the other two to fight then as
well, see no back attack. Should I remind you, this battle, Cs, is done with
Cloud, Cait, and Barret.
Now go back to the save point and switch Cait for Cid. Head back in and face
the MP Soldiers. Kill off Cid and have Cloud use an Aqualung, use it again.
This should eliminate then. Instead of going back and change the party
again, go to the next screen and see Cloud talk. Enter the next screen
after this one to see the Huge Materia being taken away and Reno close by.
Don't approach him yet, now should be the right time to go back/heal/swith
members and save while your at it. The next battle is by far one of the
toughest and hardest battles you'll have to face. Your party will now be
Cloud, Nanaki, and Barret. Make sure one has Sense materia and everyone has
a Enemy Skill materia on them. Nanaki should have the Protect Ring.
Tranquilze Nanaki first and anyone else if you have those to spare.
Elemental=Comet should be helpful on the armors, at least that is what
I've heard, to protect against Lapis Laser, since it's nonelemental.
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BOSS BATTLE: Carry Armor HP: 24000 (Arms: 10,000 Each)
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For the main purpose of this battle, you are suppose to beat this guy
without destroying neither arms by the end of the battle. I played this
guy over 30 times, seriously, and I've only done so twice. It's hard, I
know. But twice I lost to the final battle with the Underwater Army, so
I can't help what I did. I just decided to give up that phase and just
went with killing one arm and then finishing him off. In this battle,
get Big Guard up and then use Magic Hammer on him twice, so that he
can't use Lapis Laser no more. Then use Trine and Right Arms to knock
his arms to critical. At this point, you have to decide to stick with
one arm gone or have both of them stay. Heal the arms that you want to
stay. I used Elixirs to do so, X-Potions also works as well. Meaning I
used 3 Elixirs to beat this guy. You could always use S-Mines, that
cost 1000 gils each and attack one target, if you're planning to take
out no arms at all. Use White Winds when one is close to KO. When he
Arm Grabs one character, quickly attack him to have that character back
on the floor so that you can revive him. Best to have the game speed set
to Wait and 30% Game Speed or even lowest if wanted. HP Plus is a must.
S-Mines were mentioned by GarlandG. Luck Plus, Magic Plus, and MP Turbo
are the other materias that I used as well. Followed by Life=All,
Cure=All, and Phoenix. I use a Wizard Bracelet for Nanaki because of the
AP given from this battle.
Easier version of this that I have thought of are:
1. Get Throw materia and powerup Cloud's Stength and buy Nail Bats and
thrown them directly at Carry Armor.
2. Get the three Enemy Skill to beat him, which is mentioned above.
3. Chocobuncle attacks 9999.
Deadliest events I've seen is him using Lapis Laser as his first move
and then Arm Grab on Nanaki as the next move, gameover. Next one, he
grabs two of my characters and then when I do enough damage to have
either one or both on the ground for revival, he quickly grabs my last
guy standing, gaveover. Next one, he uses Lapis Lazer twice, gameover.
Next one, Grabs two of my people, after my first Magic Hammer, he uses
Lapis Lazer and then he uses it again.
The whole point of this battle is to see how much arms you want to keep,
keep at least one, and how fast you can eliminate his MP so that he
won't use Lapis Laser on you. Even with Protect Ring on one person, this
guy can still wipe you out fast. That's the reason why I sticked with
one arm. Challenge this guy with your own risk. If I'm not mistaken,
this was also a reason it gave other challenges their hard points. The
last thing you should be worried up and the most crucial of them all is
the arms of death, what I call them.
GOOD LUCK! YOU'LL NEED IT!
Added Later, just for the record, when he has no MP to use and he picks
up 2 of your characters, the only thing you can do is attack. By using
any attacks, your characters hold by Arm Grab will suffer damage.
By using Magic Hammer or just healing the arms can damage your
characters as well. The computer just takes any numbers and deal them
to your hanging characters.
Pick up the tressure chest near by after the fight, all three of them.
Scimatar looks nice. Proceed.
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DEADLY FORCE BATTLES: Underwater Army EFG
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These are the battles that can easily screw you up. If you lose anyone
of these battles you'll have to face Carry Armor all over again, did you
think it was fun? For the first battle, it's fairly easy just use
Aqualung. Now, make sure you hear this straight. Take the Wizard
Bracelet off of Nanaki and give him that has a high defense power. I
know I should be using Adaman Bangle, but instead I choose a Crystal
Bangle instead and I was close to death. Do this before starting the
second battle, F, because you won't get a chance after that battle. For
some reason, Cloud would get over himself and disobey your command and
jump on down and face the next battle, which by the way is a
backattack battle.
For this battle, White Wind and Aqualung should be your main attacks.
White Wind to heal you up. If you are lucky, you can aim and kill two
Soldiers with one Aqualung, that is only if you have a lot of luck. If
you don't hope that your counterattack materia will act out and kill
those guys for you. Also use White Wind you mind approtiate, I really
don't know when I used it, I did use it once though. Your limit bar can
help you speed up your next attack after using Aqualung once. If you
find that White Wind won't heal that much, it heals what the caster's
HP is a the moment, consider using Hi-Potion instead. If you're really
desperate, go ahead and use an elixir if you want. Or even start
reviving other characters as well, but I don't know what good that will
do.
After these battles, save. Go ahead and say to take take them as
prisoner/hostages. Go back and save again if you don't trust your skills
with the submarine mini-game. I would assume that this should be a easy
battle, for me at least. Beat it and end it. Your at Junon now, hop on back
onto the Highwind and head for Rocket Town.
Before that though, Head for the Submarine and take back that lost Huge
Materia in the sub. Go the Gelikna and get Conformer, Heaven's Cloud, Double
Cut Materia, and a Escort Guard. While down there you probably want to get
Ancient's Key as well. Don't touch Emmy though.
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Rocket Town Huge Materia Scenrio
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At Rocket Town, be ready with the three battles followed by a pause.
*NOTE*Having Cid in the party in the first place will not allow you do switch
party members for the fight against Rude and so forth.
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Rocket Shinra Army ABC
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Party consist of Cloud, Barret, Cid and you won't be given the option to
change party members after this battle. Just kill off Barret and Cid and
then have Cloud use Aqualung and use Magic Hammer if Cloud's MP gets too
low. Cloud should have on either a Protect Ring or a Ribbon.
After battle, revive Barret and Cid and get their HP to maximum and give
them a proper materia and weapon setup. Steal shouldn't be needed since you
can't steal Rude's Ziedrich. Read further on per possilble materia
selections and etc...
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Rude and 2 Soldiers
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This can turn out to be a hard battle. Yet I've found some easy cheap
ways to get by this. For this battle, you have to beat Rude without
killing the 2 Soldiers. These Soldiers be turned into toads, but they
still can keep some of their basic attacks though, even they basic
phyical attack does more than just one. Rude on the other hand can be
poisoned and Cross Slash can paralyze him for a couple turns. Slow works
as well, meaning you should throw a Spider Web, which you should still
have since I didn't tell you to use them for any other battles. Cast Big
Guard to speed up your chance to hit Rude. A great materia to use is
Comet, but due to it's high MP cost, you'll need to use Magic Hammers a
lot of times, it still does great damage though. Use Big Guard
and/or Protect Ring. Turn the speed to slow and wait so that you won't
lose the effect and this battle too quickly. Don't bother trying to
equip steal and trying to steal the Ziedrich from Rude, for you to be
able to do that you have to kill the two guys in front of him, which you
can't do, unless you want to gain 600 EXP and besides it's not needed
anyways. I manage to do so. Make sure Cloud is the sole survior. Best
way to do this is after poison, kill the two other off. Use Cross Slash
on Rude and let the poison finish him.
There should be one more person after Rude. Don't worry he is by himself.
You should give Cloud full HP and use Comet twice to finish him off.
Aqualung works as well. Kill him and be done with it.
After that you'll be sent into space. O,Square,X,X, if you want to Huge
Materia.
Go to Cosmo Canyon and talk to Nanaki's Grandfather. Get the Ancients key,
should have done so, and head for the Forgotten Capitol. Place Key in. Cait
calls. And you'll see Diamond coming up.
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BOSS BATTLE: Diamond Weapon HP: 30000
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This guy can't be sent, so no need to equip anyone with Sense materia. To
prepare for this battle you should have everyone equip Fire Armlets. Fire
Ring are for losers. Not meaning that you're a loser of course
To get the other two Fire Armlets, you need to steal them from Unknowns
in the Gelnika. I know I should have told you to so during the first
trip, but you didn't need it back them. When you still from Unknowns, the
one that has a big head on and no spikes pink haired, you should try to
equip on some high Defense armor like Adaman Bangle or something else in
that sort of nature. A good idea is to use Big Guard at the beginning of
the battle. And if you have extra money buy a Exit materia before coming
here so that you may use it to escape from these battles. These guys do
are pretty hard compared to everyone else in this game. Make sure
everyone has Steal equipped as well. The other guy in that room has
Aurora Armlets up for steal, but those aren't needed, but they do make a
good profit when sold.
When you fight him, make sure the Fire Armlets are equipped. For my
battle, Tifa will take all the EXP in this battle. Make sure you a
calculator or pencil and paper to meassure his life. I had to battle him
4 times because I got clumsy and screw up on how much life he really has.
Two Ribbons and one Protect Ring should be used in this battle. The
materia doesn't matter except for Tifa, the one that will actually get
some AP from this battle, 2500 to be exact. Don't bother wasting your
Ethers, just use Magic Hammer whenever you feel like it on Diamond, his
MP source is unlimited. Use Aqualung, Trine, Right Arms, or Swift Bolts
to attack. If using magic equip the MP turbo for extra boost, not much
though. Diamond Flash can lower everyone's HP, not that you should be
concerned or anything, but there is a way to overcome this low HP. After
the flash, have someone throw a hi-potions on someone else. Then that
someone else equickly use White Wind, and there you go, full HP once
again. Buy at least 15+ phoenix downs, those are needed. Big Guard
should only be used once to get the Haste on everyone. Contain's Freeze
also backs a punch, so do the Bahamut Brothers. The Fire Armlets will
absorb every single attack except his Stomp attack.
GarlandG's strategy: I know quite to sure if I'm working it right or not.
He said that if you use limit breaks on him, I think it was 5 times, that
you will force Diamond Weapon to use his Diamond Flash attack, which is a
countdown. During that time you can attack him all you want and normal
attacks works as well. Swift Bolts were the ones he recommended to use.
Keep forcing him into Diamond Flash countdowns so that he won't use
Stomp, which is the only attack that can harm you.
After this battle, more storyline. Approach the North Crater and more
storyline. Now it's time to get Yuffie. Have Cloud, Cid, and Barret in the
party, Cloud being the sole survior in this battle, being as though it is
still at low EXP. For some reason, you finding her this into the game is
quite common sight. Don't equip counterattack materia on Cloud or anyone
else, it can kill her. I know, she is that dam weak at the moment. Once you
get her use this, or similar to this:
Not interested
.....petrified
No, wait!
That's right.
Lets hurry on.
Before going any further let make sure you have some of these stuffs. For
the W-Item Duplication Trick. At least one of:
Megalixir
Tranquilzer
Hero Drink
Vaccine (optional)
Remedy (optional)
Phoenix Down
Elixir/X-Potion
Exit materia (useful)
Conformer (Yuffie)
Right Arms
Swift Bolt
Spider Web
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Raid into Shinra
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Now it's time to revisit Shinra. I'm not saying to get get all the Tressures
in this place. I'm just saying to get at least the Aegis Armlet. For one
thing, there is only one in a game and two is that it's quite useful for the
next battle. Save at the save point and after that go get the W-Item and
don't fight the Turks yet. After getting W-Item if you plan to do the trick
immeatidly, save first, I don't want you walk that long distance again and
waste your time. Try to duplicate most of the things I have listed above.
Wait and Slow if you have the Exit materia for the fastest combo out of
battles. When your back to the ladder screen, go back and save. After that,
lets face the Turks one final time.
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BOSS BATTLE: The Turks (Rude, Reno, and Elena HP: 25000 (Reno)
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Since Reno has the lowest HP, my target will be him and not Elena,
which so happens so many Walkthroughs has addressed. Killing Reno will
also end the battle as well. Unlike Elena, Reno can have his life sensed
for your convience. Fourth Bracelet, Aegis Armlet, and Aurora Armlet
should be the ones you would be using, you might not agree. At the
beginning of the battle use both Spider Web and Big Guard. Contain and
Comet does wonders, but W-Item with Right Arms could be more effective.
To get a bigger boost, use W-Item twice for Hero Drinks and put them on
the characters. The only attack that could kill someone even under Hero
Drinks and Barrier is Rude's fist. If you really want, Fire Armlet is
yet another second choice for armor since it will absorb most of the
attacks used by the Turks. I know that Poison=All works, but I'm
having a hard time to get it to stick, so I would like you to know not
to get your hopes up. Cross Slash won't paralyze anyone. Bahamut
Brothers can do 3-4ks worth of damage, you can only use them once
though. Use Megalixirs as your only healing source since you have
unlimited of them in your pocession. One more thing I forgot to add,
STEAL EVERYTHING OFF OF THEM. All three of them. Mainly the Ziedrich
which is the only one that you'll get in this game and the Touph Ring
can be very handy for the last battles. When Rude's life is very low,
use only Elixirs/X-Potions on Yuffie. She is the one to take the full
EXP. Conformer is debatable. It depends if you want to give your materia
extra APs or not. If not, then use Conformer.
After the battle, go back and save to ensure your flawless progress. Next go
into the Shinra building. Not much that I really want here, only Cait's
Ultimate Weapon, HP Shout. You can take the rest of you want, doesn't really
matter to me at this point. When you're done, save on the save point
outside of the Shinra Building. Moving on and fighting Proud Clod.
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BOSS BATTLE: Proud Clod HP: Doesn't matter
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There are only a few thing I can tell you about this battle, it goes
rather fast. Get the Conformer on Yuffie. Give her 4+ Hero Drinks. Sense
Proud Clod. Use Double Cut for Yuffie to speed things up. Guessimating
her attack damage her turn, figure out the perfect time to kill off
Yuffie and Tifa. Then have Cloud use Contain/Comet to finish the rest of
this HP. Using Zeidrich and Fourth Bracelt will make this guy look weak.
My battle only took me 8 minutes, which should be more than enough. Don't
attack his armor though, only Proud Clod. Killing his armor will add more
EXP, which you don't want. SO don't take his armor out/off. Remember
Cloud is the sole survior at the end of battle.
After this battle, you'll get Ragnorak, not much use IMO. Get the tressure
chest, one has Mystile. Once again, this should be useful, put it on
someone, I just don't know how useful it really is. The Touph Ring on the
other hand is very useful. Save. Switch someone out of your party and swap
it for Barret. He isn't going to be in the fight against Hojo, he is just
tagging along until he get's his Ultimate Weapon, Missing Score. At this
point, I like to declare that all Ultimate Weapons for everyone sucks
except for Yuffie's Conformer, for this challenge. Her's is the only one
found effective against bosses.
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BOSS BATTLE: Hojo and his three forms HP: Doesn't matter
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Conformer on Yuffie last in the last battle. Gave her 5+ Hero Drinks to
boost up her attack power to 6000+ per attack. Team this up with Double
Cut and this battle will go so fast compared to other challenges that
you've done. For the first form, only attack Hojo, second form only
attack the head. Don't use Vaccine at all so that Big Guard's barriers
can stick on. Use Big Guard to increase your speed. Yuffie's attack
alone can finsih this battle. Yuffie is the only one left standing to
get the full EXP. SO make sure that Cloud and Tifa are KOed before then.
For this battle, I was going to test out if I could get 2-1 and 3-1 limit
breaks from this one battle alone. Dissappointingly, I don't find this
doable. I've tried it for Cloud and Yuffie, but I just can't keep track of
my number of kills being made. Sometimes I even killed Hojo himself before
I could keep on attacking Bad Rap and Poodle Example, killing them as well.
They don't give EXP by the way, only the boss' EXP is given out. At the end
I gave up on this test. If anyone is willig, can they test it out and
confirm my results. I gave up, even though I could of kept on testing it,
oh well.
END OF DISC TWO RESULTS!
By the end of disc two, your people should all be at level 28, except for
Cloud. He is at level 26 instead. I know you can't check this for right now,
so you'll have to wait until you get disc 3. There is some stuff you can do,
some what of alot. Be proud that you've completed the lowest level game, or
what I call 'Lowest Level Average Level Party Game.' The Lowest Level Party
Game is the other game that you should try to do. That is mentioned in the
FAQ section.
Stats after the End of DISC 2:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 42067 3188 26
Barret 55095 2753 28
Tifa 52902 3079 28
Nanaki 53468 3604 28
Cait 53233 4615 28
Cid 57274 574 28
Yuffie 53993 3079 28
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DISC 3
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At the beginning of the disc 3, don't enter the North Cavern yet. Inside go
back into the ship and we have to do some really long minigame, you know it,
it's getting the Gold Chocobo.
About Getting Vincient:
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First, I like to say that you can get Vincient, but he'll increase the
average level of the party. When you get him, his level will be 30. If we
insist of getting him, have Cloud, Barret, and Cid as the party to take
Missing Number out. Cloud should be the survior of this battle, while having
Barret and Cid KOed at the end. Cloud should have Double Slash, Ragnorak,
Touph Ring, Mystile/Ziedrich on him for this battle. Another thing he should
have or/and use are Big Guard, Contain's Freeze, Trine, Beta or even Right
Arms. His attacks won't do too much damage. This battle is easily won. For
the other two, don't give them anything useful so that they can be KOed by
Missing Number much faster. Personally I did beat Missing Number and got
Vincient, that's how I got his level, but I just restarted and completed
this challenge without getting him. You decide what you want to do.
Quick Info: R36, L10, R59, R97
Sidequest Mini-game: Chocobos
Goal: Get Gold Chocobo
True Goal: Get Mime and Knight of the Round (this is the real name, real it
yourself when you get it)
Side Goal: Quadra Magic, HP<=>MP, and Apocalypse
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For this part, you'll only to capture 3 Chocobos to get a Gold Chocobo.
Believe me this is possible because I've been told so and I've actually
tested and done this part. Get Reagan or Mimett Greens then use the W-Item
Trick to get more of those. To get the quickest money for the Chocobo
Stables, or if you just want money for other purposes, buy Sylkis Greens.
Duplicate them and sell them for a lot Gils. Doing this once should take
care most of everything, but more is needed to feed the Chocobos. Get these
3 Chocobos first.
Chocobo #1: Gold Saucer Area (Good Chocobo) 2 Spencers With Chocobo. EXP: 220
Party: Cloud, Cid, Barret. Cloud is Survivor.
Chocobo #2: Rocket Town Area (Great Chocobo) 2 Valron With Chocobo. EXP: 600
Party: Cloud, Cid, Barret. Cloud is Survivor.
Chocobo #3: Icicle Area (Wonderful Chocobo) 1 or 2 Jumpling/s. EXP: 400/800
Party: Cloud, Cid, Yuffie. Cloud is Survior once again.
After getting this save first. Put the Good Chocobo into its stable and feed
it 75 Sylkis Greens. Save. Put the Great Chocobo into its stable and it must
be the opposite sex of the Good Chocobo. If it isn't, then keep restarting
until it is the opposite sex. When it is, give it 75 Sylkis Greens as well.
Then go to the Gold Saucer and race them both to Class A, I did Class S just
for fun. Now head for the islands northeast of Corel and get into battles
with Vlakorados and steal their Carob Nuts. You just need three of them. Go
back and mate the two Chocobos, if you can't, get into a couple more
battles. To get into battles quickly and flee from them, the most effective
way is the Midgar Zolom with Exit materia. Sneakattack works well with this
technique.
Try to get a Blue/Green Chocobo the first time. Then get a Chocobo of the
different color and opposite sex of the previous Chocobo that you've mated.
I got a Male Blue and Female Green. Give them 75 Sylkis and race them to
Class S, which shouldn't be too hard. Then get into battles with the Goblins
northeast of Midgar and steal the Zeio Nut from them. You just need one. Get
into a couple more battles. Then mate the Blue and Green Chocobo by feeding
them a Carbo Nut. Save before though and restart until you get that Black
Chocobo. Once you got the Chocobo, go into the World Map and save. Go back
into the ranch and place the Wonderful Chocobo into its stable, but it must
be the opposite sex of the Black Chocobo that you currently have. Feed it
also 75 Sylkis as well. Then race them both to Class S. Get into more
battles and mate these two using a Zeio Nut. Save before so and keep on
restarting until you get a Gold Chocobo.
With the Chocobo, get KOTR and the Mime materia, the other two doesn't
matter much to me. You can also go into the Ancient Forest and get the
Apocalypse. I thought it might be useful, but I never found it useful.
Get at least 24 HP Pluss, with the unlimited money source you have right
now. While at it, get until you have 3 Wizard Bracelts. These can be stolen
from the Epitohs in the Ancient Forest, I think that is how you spell there
names. Also try to get 3 or 4 MP Pluss. Another thing that you could get,
but I didn't get because I was just too lazy, is W-Summon from the battle
arena.
Added Later: You don't need 24, more like 18-20 HP Pluss. Getting more won't
make a difference on your HP.
Another thing you can do is go to Genilka and get Hades and Highwind for
Cid, since the Turk battle is not there anymore. Max Luck and Speed if you
want to as well. I didn't do neither of these things.
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North Cavern - Finale
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This is the end of the game. I will try to make this swift as possible,
while still keeping my memos.
Quick Review: At the fork roads. Send Tifa to the Right and everyone else to
the Left. Then send everyone up, but take Cait and Cloud to
the bottom. This is a quick review for the Mystile Duplication
trick. You don't really need this, it's for people that wants
to do it.
At the Left Upper path, there should be enemies called Movers, which give no
EXP whatsoever. They do give a good ammount of APs, but the bad part is that
they're extremly rare, more rarer then Magic Pots. From Edman's FAQ, these
guys are said and you can level up your materia in this place and also get
your 2-1 and 3-1 limit breaks. I did plan to do this for some time and then
I suddendly got impatient and decided to beat Sephiroth without this boring
task to do. Believe me, it's possible at this point.
Quick Note about HP and MP Pluss: I don't know why, but this is what I found
out in my clumsy testing on accident. HP Pluss for some reason will not
increase your max HP sometimes. If you equipped it on and then removed
them, it will not make a difference on your character HP. This isn't a
lie, you can test it out yourself. I could just be my game, but that is
my result. This might make you think if you really want to keep upgrading
your HP Plus materias. Most of my people's HP was at 2400s when they were
at the end of the game.
I figured it out! Materia alone can't double more than your current HP
and MP! Current HP 1200, materia can't make your HP over 2400, or 2401
and higher.
For the final party, I picked Cloud, Cait, and Cid. This is based upon their
total HP value without any materia or anything else effecting their HP. You
can pick someone else, like maybe Yuffie, even though she isn't necessary.
Put 6 or 7 HP Pluss on each character that you are using.
These are the last stats. You won't get any EXP from the next three battles
My Final Stats:
Total EXP EXP Needed to Level UP Level On
Cloud 43687 1568 26
Barret 55495 2353 28
Tifa 53712 2587 28
Nanaki 54278 2794 28
Cait 54043 3805 28
Cid 57274 574 28
Yuffie 54403 2669 28
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BOSS BATTLE: Jenova Synthesis HP: Doesn't matter,
******************************** base it upon strategy
For this battle, make sure that everyone equips their Wizard Bracelet.
Touph Ring should be placed on at least one person. W-Item is a must so
that you can keep on Duplicate Items like Hero Drink, Right Arms,
Megalixirs, and Dragon Fangs. Use Big Guard at least once in this battle,
for the haste effect for this battle. At the beginning cast Big Guard.
Then use Right Arms and Dragons Fangs to deal damage to her, but don't
kill her. You know when to stop when you see her doing the countdown,
when I mean stop that is time for the second part of this strategy. When
she starts counting from 5 and down, keep on using Magic Hammer until
you're people can't get any more MP from her. You can even use Magic
Hammer before she does the countdown. By depleting her MPs, she won't be
able to cast Ultima, which in turn means she won't deal any damage to you
and the battles ends. This was done on my second test.
On my first test, I didn't take any MPs away from her and letted her cast
Ultima. The character with Touph Ring survived and everyone had Big
Guard's Barrier. Everyone else that didn't have Touph Ring got KOed. This
was also based on that I gave everyone 4 Hero Drinks. Contain was used in
this battle, but don't use Contain's Break attack, it does less damage or
miss. The battle also end after she casts Ultima.
Elemental=Ultima/Contain/Comet in the armor is somewhat useful. I find it
useful to deal damage to her to get the Countdown started, my experience
alone.
The difference that I noticed in these two battles, the one without
Ultima being cast and the one with Ultima being cast, is APs. The one
with Ultima being cast doesn't give out any APs, while the one without
Ultima being cast gives out 1000 APs. I don't know if you still want
them or not.
Summary: With Ultima Casted - No EXP, No AP
No Ultima Casted - No EXP, 1000 AP
After battle, more storyline. Choose to create only one party to battle
against Bizzaro. Remember that once you start this battle, you can't change
materia/equipment for the Safer fight. So do this wisely. Now is the time,
if you haven't already done so, have one with KOTR and another with
Mime=Counter. Also make sure that the one that has KOTR has at least 250MP
as their Max MP. The other person can have W-Item. Also make sure that
someone has a Ribbon on, or both Ribbons used are useful as well.
Added Later: That KOTR should be linked with a Counter, if you did the
Mystile Duplication Trick.
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BOSS BATTLE: Bizzaro Sephiroth HP: Doesn't matter EXP: NONE
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This could be decribed as 'Quick.' All you need to do is summon KOTR.
After seeing the Knights in action, this battle will end and it's time to
face the Final Boss, Safer.
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FINAL BOSS: Safer Sephiroth
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This battle is somewhat of a gamble in someways. In the beginnig of the
battle, if you are fast enough, quickly throw a Megalixir and use KOTR
instantly. Otherwise, use Megalixir and Big Guard. Throw 2-4 Hero Drinks
at the person using KOTR and the other Mime KOTR. Once you summoned
KOTR, don't use anything else or else no more KOTR will be used. So you
must pick the best time to use KOTR, only have one chance. Don't bother
using Shadow Flare right back at him, it will miss. All you need is 4
KOTR being summoned to kill him. If you have W-Summon, may I suggest you
have a Bahamut teaming up with KOTR than Miming it. Once the 4th one
comes out, the game is over and you're done, even if he has Wall up at
the moment. Having him fly high might be a good thing after all, it
means that he skipped a turn so that you can use KOTR on him.
If KOTR with Mime fails, you'll have to turn to a different strategy.
That is keep on using your items with the aide of W-Item and Mime.
Megalixir to heal. Right Arms to attack. Team those up with Mime for
double the power. Use Big Guard and White Wind for the upper defense and
healing. Confuse can one of the most dealiest things, unless you have
Ribbon of course. Phoenix down with Megalixir is a basic thing you
should get use to. This battle may seem hopeless, but instead it could
be a boring battle that will take a hell of a long time due to Super
Nova. Don't use Vaccine since it can cancel Big Guard's Barriers.
I would think 4 Hero Drinks with KOTR would do more damage, so 3 KOTR
might be possible. This battle is based more upon luck and quick
stratgy. When in doubt, pause the game before deciding your next move.
Sometimes the best way is not care about anyone being KOed or not, it is
instead to summon KOTR and quickly have the other person Mime it as fast
as possible before the Safer kills you. Which ever way you find effective
against him, use it and beat this challenge. Good Luck and Congrats if
you beat him.
*Sidenote* It is possible to beat Safer without using KotR and the W-Item
Duplication Trick. As a matter of fact, you can beat the game
without these two as well.
The Author, me, has the ending time of less than 39 hours,
which by all means, this is not a speed game!
*****The ENDING***************************************************************
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Lowest Level Party Game (LLP) - Mini-Walkthrough
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Now it's time for me explain the difference. There is a difference between
this challenge and the Lowest Average Level Game. LAL game means that
everyone ends the game at 26 and 28s, Cloud being at level 26. LLP game is
having the lowest level party battling against Safer by the end of the game.
The stratgies for both challenges still apply, but this game will let you
do more stuff, but there is still that same restriction.
Restritions:
- Cloud and Tifa was be KOed by the end the battle, if possible.
- Tifa must not be switched into the inactive party, unless the game
doesn't let you.
- You can't ipgrade with EXP while Cloud is away to take on Rufus.
- Like LAL, you can't get "All Creation," Yuffie's Lvl 4 Limit Break
- Best to have Cloud kill only Rufus and not Dark Nation, to get the lower
EXP ammount
Freedom From LAL:
- You can get any, if not all, the enemy skills out there.
- You can get level up as much as you want, under the restrictions.
- You can get all the Limit Breaks, with restrictions to Yuffie's.
- You can get everyone's Ultimate Weapon
- You can beat Ultimate Weapon and obtain Ultimate Weapon
- You can get Final Attack
- Battle Arena will be easier than LAL
- Maxing Stats will be easier than LAL
- Not worry about Carry Armor and his arms, kill both of them
The levels between these two challenge willl have a big difference.
Levels:
Cloud - Level 8
Tifa - Level 7
Yuffie - Level 17
Yuffie is gotten after you have disc 2 and after you have done powerup
everyhing, materia, weapon's and their powerups, stats, etc... all relating to
getting any EXP in the process
Challenges taken in part of this one:
- Beat the game with this party
- Beat Emerald and Ruby with this party, restart afterwards
- Ultimate Challenge: Beat Emerald and Ruby, with Tifa only, the lowest
leveled character by the end of the game. Restart afterwards.
About the Ultimate Challenge. Like I stated before, since Tifa is at level 7
and she is the lowest leveled characater you can get. Wouldn't it be nice to
see her kick the weapon's ass by the end of the game, by herself?
****** Tips and Comments *****
- I would see that Barret and Vincient being the main takers of EXP. Cid
would not be one of them because of his late arrival. By the time you get
Cid, Vincient would be better person to use because of one reason. The
reason would be that Vincient's Ultimate Weapon, with himself of course,
would now replace Yuffie, the Morpher of the game. Since you can't get her
due to not wanting her to take any EXP after you have gotten her. Vincient
would thereby need to get a lot of kills to power his weapons up, and his
levels also plays another factor in morphing and how much damage he deals.
Morphing is needed in preparation to taking down the Weapons, Emmy and Ruby
- You can steal Ethers and Right Arms if you want. Ethers still give a lot
gils when sold. Right Arms will be found useful or not, determine by how
much your main attacker will deal for the regular attack. Since you have
Enemy Skills on your side, I doubt you'll reconsider stealling Right Arms.
There aren't hard to steal, sometimes they're, but it's just time
consuming thats all. Why bother with that when you could just simply
upgrade.
- About Vincient and Death Penalty. From what I see, there is no point in
getting all the Limit Breaks early in the game. I would find it to do it
later in the game solely because the enemies would give better EXP and
AP for your materia. And that Death Penalty can be powered up while doing
so, plus leveling is a major factor of this process as well. By using
this guide, you could easily manuever this game with the the first level
limit break anyways. See what I mean, or you can just do whatever.
- When getting Beta, there is a slight difficulty. It's not that you can't,
kill the Midgar Zolom, after having it cast it Beta on you and you
learning Beta. It's that it uses a move that knocks one of your character
out the battle. It might not seem much at first, but when you recap the
total ammount of EXP gotten from the person being botted out of the
battle, you'll know that they have gain some EXP, or rather half of the
Zolom's full EXP given. I don't know if this effects with neither Cloud
or Tifa's levels by the end of the game, by not having them stay at
level 8 or 7, it's just a warning to you that, they'll give EXP in the
process if this does occur. So I would advice you not to take that risk
for right now. When you have a sure way of having him cast Beta then you
have a sure way to kill him instantly, that would be the best time. Until
then, you don't need it for right now. I never used it in my previous
low level challenge anyways, and neither should you. You can level up
your character anyways.
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BOSS BATTLE: Lost Number HP: 7000
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I didn't mention this guy in the previous LAL Challenge, but those boss
can be beaten now, meaning you can beat him not ruin the whole challenge.
I don't know if this is considered to be low level or not, but I did beat
him with hardly any upgrading process, a few battles at the most, not too
much. I had Barret be my main EXP getter, so his level will be somewhat
high, but that shouldn't destroy the concept of my strategy, so this
strat can be used even at a lower level.
My Party: Cloud - Level 8
Barret- Level 15
Tifa - Level 7
During this battle, I did not use any Enemy Skill during the battle, so
no Beta, White Wind, Big Guard, nor Aqualung. Laser won't work, so don't
bother trying.
Have one with Poison to cast Bio, I had Tifa be this person. Tifa should
also have Elemental=Ramuh. Have at least 5 potions and 3 or 4 phoenix
downs, that's all the items you need. Have everyone on the back row and
turn the speed low and with wait ATB. The weapons equipped on them
doesn't matter. Barret has the Bolt Ring, gotten from the Sleeping Man
near Junon. The Talisman and Protect Vest, can be placed on either Cloud
or Tifa, or use these three placed on different people. Mythril Armlet
should be at least placed on Barret. If you have more, use them as well.
Materia Setup:
Cloud: Choco/Mog=Added Effect, Restore (optional), Steal
Barret: Restore=All, HP Plus, Enemy Skill (no use)
Tifa: Sense, Poison, Cover
Elemental=Ramuh
That's about it that I placed on my people, others if you want, but not
too much Magic materia now.
Strategy: Get poison to stick to him. When Cloud gets attacked, his limit
break should be filled up all the way, so use Cross Slash to paralyze
him. After that, use Barret's Restore to heal Cloud. Keep trying to get
poison on him. Most likely that Lost Number will have a flash of green
when you get it on him. After that, put everyone on defend mode and use
Cures and Potions to heal, and quickly put that one back into defend
mode after that turn. More than likely you're going to keep on healing
Tifa due to her having the Cover materia. DON'T ATTACK HIM. If you're
going to attack him, use only your limit breaks ONLY! By not attacking
him with regular attacks, he can't remove his cloaks to become almighty
powerful. If he did become that form, you won't survive with any low
levels. His attacks should only deal around 75 per attack, with defend
and back row. Keep healing and soon he'll die. Cross Slash is a very
useful attack. Keep your HP up and always keep Barret alive, the other
can be KOed by the end of the battle, which is what you want if doing
the LLP Challenge.
For the second test, after I've already beated him, I used the same
strats as before. This time, I was making a meal, and this battle
went smoothly, as I pay attention to both task, the meal and the game.
I was making some eggs for a sandwich, just to let you know. O and one
last thing. With Cloud and Tifa KOed and Lost Number having the poison
on him, there is no point in reviving them. Just Defend and Heal
Barret only. He won't die trust me. The person getting the Full EXP
should have at least 400 HP though, or this might get very difficult.
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BOSS BATTLE: Carry Armor HP: 24000/10000 each arm
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Just like in the last challenge, this boss is more difficult this time.
The main reason is because your characters can't even with stand a
single regular phyical attack nor a Lapis Laser. With Big Guard up, those
phyicals are taken care of, but make sure to drain his MP before he uses
Lapis Laser. You just have to keep on restarting until his first move
isn't Lapis Lazer. Right Arms and Trine should be used to take down the
Arms, which are the main concerns after draining the Carry Armor's MP.
Use Tranquilizer on your main attacker. You could use your only Dragon
Fang, but that is your only one, those things are really rare you know.
Once the MP is drain and Arms are gone, just end the battle with any
attacks you wish, just so long as you can kill him.
Note: *Morph and get the Underwater Materia, just in case.*
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BOSS BATTLE: Rude in Rocket Town HP: 9000
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This isn't really a different strategy for this boss battle different
from the original, just though you know that the option of stealing
his Ziedrich is doable this time. Big Guard and then Aqualung to finsih
the two soldiers guarding him. Put Poison on him and cure yourself when
needed, in the spare turns try to steal that Ziedrich away from him.
Cure2 and White Wind are very useful in this battle, judging by your
current HP, but Big Guard's MBar does block some of Cure2 effects
though. Using at least one elixir is it to restore the current
character in battle worth it because you can get more elixirs later on
but you can only get the Ziedrich now or never, take that into
consideration.
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OPTIONAL BOSS: Reno & Rude (Gelnika) HP: 15000/20000
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For this battle remember to steal the their items, Touph Ring and the
Ziedrich. If those weren't such really go items, their wouldn't really
be a good reason to figth them. This battle shouldn't really be hard at
all. I faced off against Rude in Rocket Town before fighting this battle,
so my main attacker for this battle is Cid with Ziedrich and a Ribbon.
For some reason in battle, Rude only attacked me twice and Reno was the
main attacker after that. Reno has this attack called Neo Turk Light,
which suppose to cast confusion, but the ribbon can cancel that effect.
Steal both their items and keep casting Aqaulung after that. Use Magic
Hammer to get more MP, even though they don't have a lot, and use more
Aqualung. You can either use Ethers after that, or even just use regular
phyical attacks. When I faced these guys, my Cid was at level 33, which
was still easy. You do have to kill both men in order to win this battle
After you have gotten these two items, do you them for the upcoming battles
in Raid in Midgar battles, it can be very useful indeed, don't worry about
your materia getting any APs or not. I even used Venus Gospel for those
battles as well.
Get some Tetra Elementals if you want. Morph Cactuars on their island to
get some. Do this only when Cloud and Tifa are in Midgar.
*****AFTER DISC 3*****
Before going any further into into my mini-walkthrough, finish the Mystile
Duplication Trick in the Cavern. Even though Yuffie won't be there to give
you the extra Counter materia, you don't really need it anyways. Do get
Mega-All and the the Mystile though. After that head back outside and try
to complete the following. Complete the Gold Chocobo Raising part as well
and get KOTR, Quadra Magic, HP<=>MP, and Mime.
Getting Tifa and Cloud's Limit Breaks
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This is one of the hardest and boring tasks, even more frustrating if you
accidently killed all the other monsters, while still having either Cloud
or Tifa alive during that battle. So you'll have to start again if you did
so. For this purpose, I've selected the Mythril Mines to this task, not
knowing fully if it will help in the fights against Safer, Emerald, or
Ruby. O well, I really want to this in the first place anyways, just to
prove that the Limit Break Mechanism Guide is right, I'm not sure if they
mentioned the thing that I'm going to do though, if they didn't, they should
really add it in as well. One last thing, you should really do this while
raising chocobos, the 10 battles until they're mature enough to mate part.
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Vincient - He is going to be your main survior in each battle only, you
could pick someone else, but it will be better to power up Death Penatly
right now anyways, killing two birds with one stone I always say. Give
him a Tetra Elemental. Any Strong Armor will do, Escort Guard, Aegis
Armlet, Aurora Armlet, etc... Weapon shouldn't matter. Materia placed
on him should at least consist of W-Item.
Items need for duplication: Phoenix Downs, Hi-Potions, Right Arms, S-Mines,
Elixirs/Ethers, and Spider Webs.
Tifa and Cloud's setup - Give her an enemy skill with Matra Magic. Mega
All and Long Range for their other choices of materia. Crystal or Diamond
Bangles/Armlets for their choice of Armor. Power Wrist for accesory.
Tifa needs a total of 193 kills and Cloud needs a total of 310 kills.
Those are the goals. Make sure that Cloud/Tifa are KOed by the end of the
battle so that they won't get any EXP. Remember to revive the person that
you are working on before the next battle, that is one of the things I
keep on forgetting from time to time.
First Scenrio Battle: Castants (Crabs) x 4 or Crawler (Snakes) x 5
In this battle have this order of command/attacks
Cloud - Mega-All attack
Vincient - Spider Web on other side and Hi-Potion on the other side
Cloud - Mega-All attack
Vincient - S-Mine on Cloud, S-Mine on other side
Note: 'other side' means on the other monster party. When using Hi-Potions on
other side, just select one of the monsters there, it doesn't matter
which one you select. On Vincient's last move on the list, you must use
S-Mine on Cloud first, KOing him, before taking down the last guy and
making the battle end. This also applies for the next battle scenrio
Second Scenrio Battle: Ark Dragon present with any other (3 Crawler etc...)
In this battle have this order of command/attacks
Cloud - Matra Magic
Vincient - S-Mine on Cloud and S-Mine on Ark Dragon. Or Right Arm if Cloud
doesn't killed the 3 monsters with Matra Magic.
Final Note: Remember to use Phoenix Down on Cloud/Tifa after every battle.
Do try to save often, what I do is save after every 5 battles, just
in case something messed me up. A thing that can mess you up, is
that you have a Pre-emptive strike on the enemy and you killed all
of them with one slash. The other one is using Matra Magic in a
first scenrio battle, thereby killing everyone with one attack.
Another way of doing this killing spree is by using Pre-emptive
materia with Barrier or Matra Magic with MBarrier. You figure out
the process on your own.
Powering up to get 2-2 and 3-2 limit breaks. Since my main survivor is
Vincient, have him equip Hypno Crown and Manipulate. I don't really have
a lot to say about who you pick to get 2-2 and 3-2, but remember to select
monsters with high HP to with stand the 2-1 and 3-1's attack totals. Killing
the monster with that limit break will get you EXP, which is a no no. Here are
my monster selections. For getting 2-2, I picked Velcher Task, located on the
fields of Rocket Town, to use. For 3-1, I used the Adamantaimai, located on
the shores of Wutai. Always choose to battle and manipulate one in battle.
Remember to heal both the opponent and your characters. You can do 2-1 for
both character on the same battle, but you should do 3-1 separetly and save
before doing the other one. Use Fury if needed and change from back to front
row if needed as well. Might want to cast Mighty Guard on the opponent if your
limits can overtake them.
Get Omnislash and W-Summon from the Battle Arena. This might take a while. Try
using the characters Ultimate Weapon if needed. I don't recommend sending Tifa
nor Cloud to do this job, since they are extremly weak. Use Spider Web, Hero
Drink, Elixir/Megalixirs, Right Arms/Dragon Fangs, and Tranquilize. Big Guard
should be the only magic you might want to use. A cheaper way to do this, but
it can go wrong, is summon KotR and then keep Miming it with Mime. If you get
Break Command or Break All Materia, then this plan is screwed. Break All
materia only when Item is taken away at the last battle. For backup, you might
want to go to Da Chao and get some Light and Lunar Curtains, just incase your
enemy skills have been taken off and you need the extra protection. This
shouldn't be a real challenge. If you have any spare Battle Points, get
Stardust, followed by Speed Plus and Enemy Lure, others if you want.
A real challenge will be later ahead.
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OPTIONAL BOSS: Ultima Weapon HP: 100000
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For one thing, this boss isn't optional for the challenger taking this
challenge, LLP Challenge. And that HP is lowered depending on how much
life you have taken away from him previous battles. You will only face
him two times, and that's the end of that.
Battle One: Just summon KOTR. This should take a little over half of
his life away. The more the better, so you should try to use some
Hero Drinks before using KOTR, but be warned that he is fast and
could flee away before your KOTR gets a hit a him. Best to calculate
how much life you have taken away from him, but this isn't needed.
Battle Two: Choose Cloud to be your other person that will be alive
most of the time to learn Shadow Flare. Don't worry about this
guy if you have Mystile equipped, most of his Ultima Beam will miss
frequently. Give Cloud all 4 Enemy Skills with W-Item and duplicate
a lot of those Dragon Fangs/Right Arms. Don't use KOTR, since it
can kill him, without him using Shadow Flare. Instead have Cloud
throw those duplications at him. Show time during the battle, it might
not have enough MP to use, so you'll have to give it a Turbo Ether.
Without MP, it will not use Shadow Flare and just die when you kill
him. If your last hit with the Duplication kills him and he has enough
MP, then he will cast Shadow Flare on Cloud, making Cloud learn the
Enemy Skill and the battle will end.
Level 8 Cloud V.S. Special Battle
**************************************
This is one of the mini-challenges that is apart of beating Ruby and
Emerald with such a low level. Some might even want to think, how this
will be possible. That answer relies in getting the Final Attack materia.
Yet in order to get this mighty materia, we must beat the Special Battle
in the Gold Saucer. There are two other things stopping you besides the
random handicaps, those are Cloud's level and Cloud himself. Meaning you
can only use Cloud to get Final Attack. As I'm typing this, I haven't this
myself, at least not yet. Choosing between KotR and Omnislash, aided with
Mime, is somewhat of a hard question. In order to use KotR, Cloud's total
HP will be very little for the battle. Using Omnislash has no side-effects,
but the fact is that it does about 500 per hit, and that is with using 4
Hero Drinks before using the attack. I'll have to experiment and do some
more research before I keep losing. So far the farthest I got was to the
Unknown3. Added the Next Day, today I made it to Behemoth and lost to his
flare attack. Added two days later, I have beaten Proud Clod and gotten
Final Attack. I like to thank Defcon999 and from a little assitance from
Catnip, on how to get pass Behemoth's Flare attack. Nice to say, I have
lost to every single monster here, except for the Sea Worm, aka first battle
I have played this thing over 50 times, I've counted all of them, seriously.
Well a little bit more than 50, actually. Here are my strats.
(Added Later: Final Attack is not needed or used when facing the WEAPONS.)
Cloud - Weapon: Ultimate Weapon (this doesn't matter, I could be using Enhance
sword, for all I care, I just need slots)
Armor: Mystile (this is needed to evade)
Accessory: Ribbon (this needed to block the negative status slots)
Materia setup (not needed to be linked)
Enemy Skill (Magic Hammer),
W-Item,
HP Plus (3 of them, enough to double your current HP.
Mine are 2 at 4 stars and 1 at 2 stars),
Counterattack (3 Stars)
Mime (not really needed),
Luck Plus (I would think it would be best to get luck sources and Cloud's luck
up to 77 before fighting. It's possilbe to beat this without it.
Speed Plus (If you have it)
Chocobo Lure (To raise Luck)
Long Range (Just for the hell of it)
Items to use and duplicate with W-Item:
-Light Curtain (Gotten from winning against Garuda at Da Chao)
Casts Barrier
-Lunar Curatin (Gotten from winning against at Da Chao)
Casts MBarrier
-Mirror (Gotten from winning against Mirage (Mirror), somewhat rare)
Casts Reflect
-Spider Web (Gotten from
Slows All Enemies
-Elixir/X-Potion (You better have these to duplicate with, Da Chao monsters)
Healing Source
-Hero Drink (Same as what I said above, Chocobo Racing)
Raises Stats
-Stardust (Thanx to Defcon about this item, I will use this, Battle Square)
Comet 2 - 4 Hits Total
-Speed Drink (Morph Formulas to get them, outside of Junon)
Casts Haste
-Dragon Scale (Ultimate Offense Item, Steal from Sea Worms located north of
Water Attack Corel (desert area) or shores of Mideel.
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To get Luck Sources:
This part is only for you if get tired of losing to Unknown3 and Proud Clod,
like I did. Increasing Luck will increase your chances dodging attacks, being
as they are Magical or Phyical. Go to Gelnika. Get to the room with Bad Raps
and Poodles. Added Later: This part should also be considered when facing
against Emerald and Ruby. But in fighting the WEAPONS, you must alos consider
Speed Sources as well.
Poodles (6000HP) and Bad Rap (9000HP). Bad Raps are the enemies you want.
Use Vincient, Death Penalty, Mystile, and Ribbon
Materia setup: (not need to be linked)
Mega All, Morph, Mime, W-Item
All Bap Rap Battle: (This is for Luck Sources)
-Use 2 Dragon Scales
-Use 2 Right Arms
-Morph, with Mega-All
-Mime, mimic Morph until all the Raps are morphed
All Poodle Battle: (This is for Speed Sources)
-Use Spider Web and Right Arm
-Use 2 Dragon Scales
-Morph, with Mega-All
-Mime, mimic Morph until all the Poodles are morphed
2 Raps and A Poodle Battle (For 2 Luck and 1 Speed)
-Use Spider Web and Right Arm
-Use 2 Dragon Scales
-Use 1 S-Mine on each of the the Raps, 2 total
-Morph, with Mega-All
-Mime, mimic Morph until all of them are morphed
Note: Heal often. Use Enemy Lure. In the battle with all Raps, it may be a good
idea to Spider Web and Hero Drink, but it's optional. 77 Luck for Cloud = goal
Note 2: For the WEAPONS battles, remember that you can equip Speed and Luck
Plus's. Meaning if you plan on equipping a Mastered Luck/Speed on a character,
they only need to have 170 (170*1.5=255). Figure the rest of the math yourself.
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Note: I would recommend doing all the duplicate to 99 for every item, then save
in Gold Saucer. Items that were listed above. If you lose to these 8 battles
after 2 or 3 attempts, restart the game and try again. Wait mode with Slow
speed is needed to be set, also with memory cursor. Move the items listed to
the top of item list for easy access. Wait mode is the best of friends, you
can basically go into the Item Menu and stay there, making the enemies wait
bar not move. This is one of the greatest advanages, epecially against Proud.
Sidenote: I figure this by myself. When using W-Item in these battles, if your
first Item already kill that monster and the second one hasn't been unleashed
yet. Then on your next Battle, you will have a chance to make the first move
because your wait bar is already full. Use this as your advantage, you'll
need it for sure.
Sidenote 2: I was actually amazed that everyone, except Proud, can be placed
on Slow by my Spider Web. This battle will be based moslty on using W-Items.
Sidenote 3: My Cloud has HP of 672 before entering these battles, due to HP
Plus. YOU CAN NOT OVER DOUBLE YOUR CURRENT HP, from materia alone. Adding
more HP Plus's won't give you any more HP for that matter. Also give him
Sadness so that he'll take on less damage. Backrow as usual.
Thanx to Defcon and Catnip for telling me that Flare is reflecatble. And double
thanx to Defcon for telling me about Reflect and how long it lasts, which is
it can only reflect 4 spells before it is all gone. And also for letting me
know about Stardust.
Sidenote 4: About Stardust, I only found it usuable in a few battles. It does
take more time to use than Dragon Scales. To take this into time advantage,
sometimes it's best to use Stardust and Light/Lunar Curtain, knowing that
your Light/Lunar is about gone. By doing so, the enemy won't get an
unbarrier hit. Dealing damage wise compared to Dragon Scales, Stardust is
only dealing more in a few battles. Dragon Scales should be use majority
of the time being.
Sidenote 5: The Slot that you need and breaking anyone of them mean you'll
denfinetly lose and have to start over includes. So don't breakum.
Everything else besides these are fine:
Items (Brown Bag)
Armor (Silver Armlet)
Accessory (Ring)
Yellow Materia (Command)
Purple Materia (Independent)
HP and HP/MP
Break All Materia (5 Materia)
Some deadly ones, but not that much threaning are:
Timex30 and 1/2 Speed (Boot) and Level # Down
Try to pick to ones that you can handle by using the Square button to lower
the slot and pick the one before the one that you aimming for.
******************Eight Monsters of the Special Battle******************
Battle #1: Sea Worm HP: 18000
This will be starter and the battle with the most freedom to do stuff.
First, use Spider Web on him and then Speed Drink on Cloud. On second
turn, use 2 Hero Drink and same goes for the 3rd Turn as well. Later on
use 2 Dragon Scales on him, which knocks him down 4000 per turn, do this
for a total of 4 turns. After that put Lunar and Light Curtains up. Then
kill him with Dragon Scales.
Battle #2: Ho Chu HP: 8000
If you get the first strike, just use 2 Dragon Scales to kill him
instantly. If not, you'll be attacked by his wip or his poison attack.
In that case, use Spider Web and Elixir. Remember now, 2 Dragon Scales can
kill him and in the mean time, if you got a W-Item turn to spare, use
Mirror on Cloud. His attacks, both them, can be invaded if Cloud's Luck is
high enough. I have evade both before.
Losing Reason - Forgot to put MBarrier up and he used his poison attack.
Battle #3: Unknown3 HP: 30000 (HARD BATTLE) MP: 150
Like stated, this battle is the hardest ever. Most of the time I race
across the previous battles just to try my luck on this guy. This guy has
4 attacks, one he uses to counter with called Creepy Touch. I know too
much about this guy, but not enough to overcome him. His other attacks
include Poison Fang, which is a free turn for you. Bolt 2, which is quite
deadly depending on what you got setup and your HP. The last move that
you'll hate definetly is his phyical attack called Slap, this is the only
move you wish not to read on the top of the screen and if you do, you
probably are praying that Cloud will invade and get a miss on that attack
Enough with the decription, here comes the strategy. The first thing you
should do is get Spider Web on him and make sure you have Mirror up, if
you aren't did so from the previous battle. Even though you'll reflect
Bolt2 him, giving him a heal 1000, that's better than you taking the
damage and having to heal yourself and a wasting a part of W-Item turn.
Don't bother to setup Barrier, if you die from slap, you die, no point
in wasting a Item turn because it will nail 800+, with every I listed
before. Only way to avoid this is to evade it. I have once sucessfully
evaded 3 Slaps in a single battle with him. You'll have to use at least
7-8 Dragon Scales at him for this battle to end. This is 3-4 TURNS of
using Dragon Scales. You just better hope his Slap attack won't connect
to Cloud's face and you'll have to start all over again if that was to
happen. At first I thought, he only had a 25% chance of killing me in each
battle, this doesn't seem to be true anymore. He mostly uses Slap on his
second attack, and first is quite frequent as well. This enemy is the
only reason why I had to give Cloud a Luck of 77. Before this battle
ends, make sure that Cloud as MBarrier on with at least halfly ful HP or
just full HP. Don't use Dragon Fangs! It's also possibe for him to
waste all his MP away, forcing him not to be able to cast Bolt2.
Losing Reason - SLAP! or No Mirror or No MBarrier with FULL HP and Bolt...SLAP!
Battle #4: Serpent HP: 28000 MP: 290
This guy has only 1 type of attack and that is magical ice attacks. If you
have high luck, you can even avoid those attacks as well. To better secure
yourself, have MBarrier on with Elixir on yourself for the first turn.
Follow by Spider and heal as well. Without MBarrier on, you'll take 500+
worth of damage, enough to kill you if you're HP is full. If there are by
any chance that you evade one of his attacks and you didn't take any
damage for it, quickly go into the Enemy Skill screen and Magic Hammer his
ass. Doing this 3 times, while make him unmovable because he doesn't have
any MP to cast his spells with. At that point use only Stardust. Dragon
Scales will heal him. Stardust does deal more damage than the other items
that you have for this battle. After using Stardust for a few turns, get
your Barrier up and make sure Cloud has full HP. If your Barrier is filled
up to A, in the word Barrier on the screen, just wait until the Barrier
is fully drained so that you can cast a second one to replace it. This
will give you better preparation for the next battle. MBarrier is
secondary. Kill him after those guildlines. It's possible to dodge all
his attacks, while your fighting him, while you are trying to kill him
of course.
Losing Reason - Didn't enter this battle with Full HP and MBarrier on.
Battle #5: Wolfmeister HP: 20000
This guy is extra fast and attacks a lot phyically. So on your first turn
make sure Barrier is up and that you get a full HP by the end of the Item
turn. On your second turn, give him Spider Web. Full your HP frequently
with turns. He can even strike with your Barrier on and dealing 500+. He
does have an magical attack that is rarely used. You'll have to use 6 or
7 Dragon Scales to finish him off. Always make sure your Barrier is up
for this battle and have some for the next battle as well. Timing is
everything from this battle to the next one. Each Dragon Scale should
deal about 3800 to him, by the way.
Losing Reason - No Barrier and No Spider Web = KO, Healing doesn't cut it
Battle #6: Behemoth HP: 14000
For starter, make sure Barrier is up and full HP as well. Your next thing
should be to heal yourself after every attack made from him and at the
same time try to remember how times Cloud has reflected. If it's less than
4, then you're fine, if not give Cloud a Mirror. I would like to advise
you that everytime you deal damage to him or use Spider Web on him, he'll
counter back with Flare. If you don't have reflect up, that your done for.
When using W-Items on him, think of the consquences first. Will that
trigger 2 Flares and do you have enough reflects to bounce them back at
him. Know that I have personally lost to him due to this reason. So Elixir
might be part of your item turn after all, or at least put it into
consideration. Using limit breaks, like Omnislash, will not trigger Flare
however. So Omnislash first followed with Mime will work to killing him,
but it doesn't quite work against the next boss. One of the ways I beated
him was to use Omnislash, followed by a Spider Web, which made him cast
Flare on himself and he was dead. On a sidenote, Defcon recommends using
Mirror to it's advantage with help from Magic Hammer. Meaing cast Magic
Hammer on him to deplete 100MP away from him, he'll counter will Flare,
and now he only has 200MP left. Do this again and he doesn't have any
MP left, which means he can't counter with Flare anymore. This should
waste him, but this was made intentionally if you were afraid he was
going to use ????, which has a great chance to kill Cloud instandtly.
Losing Reason - Didn't have Reflect up. Lost to his phyical attack due to not
timing great. Forgot how reflects you got left before you can't reflect
anymore. Two Quick hits that did critical damage and no Barrier and no
Spider Web on him.
Battle #7: Maximum Kimaira HP: 8000
This guy is like an upgrade version of Wolfweister, or Behemoth minus
the counter Flares. He has 3 attack, I figure out the third attack, the
hard way. He has a phyical attack that does a decent ammount of damage
with barrier on, Southern Cross which means a free turn for you, and
Freeze... This guy is fast, so get Barrier up and get HP to full. Follow
by Spider Web and make sure Reflect is up after that. Heal yourself
in your turns against him. Even though he doesn't have a lot of HP, I did
lose to him because of Freeze. I didn't know he has that move, I did see
it before and he did get reflected it did kill him. I just forgot if my
reflect still has counters on it before it was gone. By using 3 or 4
Dragon Scales, he is defeated. Before going to the next battle though.
Make sure you have some Barrier left to spare and full HP is recommended.
Losing Reason - Not enough HP to survive his attacks, Taking on Freeze without
Reflect on.
Battle #8: Proud Clod HP: 120,000! MP: 400 (Last Challenger)
This will be a long and boring fight. Yet there are a few consideration
of how this guy can easily kill you. Materia Jammer doesn't seem to work
when he used it on me, for some odd reason. All his attacks are phyical,
except for Beam Cannon, which is unleashed when he starts to bow down.
For some reason, his Knee Fire is also phyical as well, oh well. This just
means that Barrier should stay on for the majority of this battle. I don't
recommend using Stardust in this battle, Dragon Scales is better. But due
to the fact that you want Barrier on at all times, Stardust does prove
to be useful while being played on the same turn as using Light Barrier.
When he is about to use Beam Cannon, put MBarrier on quickly. Then start
using Magic Hammer to deplete his MP, so that he won't use Beam Cannon
anymore. You just need to use 4 times that all. The next time he uses
Beam Cannon without any MP to use, just keep throwing Dragon Scales.
You'll get 3 free turns in the process. Even so if you take down his armor
he still gets 2 attacks. Sometimes one, I have figured out his pattern yet
because I was too busy trying to kill him. Elixir and Dragon Scales should
be frequently used in this battle. Even if he doesn't deal over 200 during
that turn, it's still better to have your Cloud healed fully, just in case
One time, he scored 2 critical attacks on me, I have Barrier on at the
time with full HP, Both of those attacks took 400+ in damage and he killed
me. Better stick on the safe side because you don't want to start the
whole battles all over again. Slow doesn't work on him, I've tried. Using
Omnislash is a waste of turn, it deals only 200s or 300s per slash. If
you want to use it, use it during this fake Beam Cannon phase. This is the
only battle that you'll need to start duplcating stuff, mainly Elixirs
and Dragon Scales. While doing that, don't worry about a thing, he won't
kill you, as long as you have Wait on. Speaking of which, it is best to
go directly into your Item screen and stay there until he Proud has used
his 2 attacks. This will stop his Wait bar, and gives you time to think
on what to do next. If he attacked twice and he missed both times, there
will no need to heal yourself, meaning you can attack some more at him.
It's possible to dodge every single of his attacks, even Beam Cannon, but
that is based on your Luck. Mine was high enough to dodge it 3 times in
one battle. Seriously, I have played this guy 3 times before I beated
him. The first time I was clumsy enough and let Beam Cannon attack me.
I was thinking it was a phyical attack, wrong move. Second time he did
that double critical on me, whiped me out, and I have frustrated. Thrid
time was better, I stayed on the safe side and always healed Cloud in
any of my turns, which made Mime a great piece of work. Before I knew
it, I finally defeated him. What an amazing match. Hopefully I will do
better against the WEAPONS.
Losing Reason (for me at least) - I forgot that the Beam Cannon was a magical
attack, not phyical. Bad luck, I lost to him because he scored 2
consecutive attacks on me and they were both critical and I couldn't
dodge neither of them. For many, I would consider timing of heals.
Preparations for WEAPONS, Ruby and Emerald
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For this section, I'll include all the things you'll need in order to beat
the WEAPONS. So that you don't waste 7 hours of basically doing no
contribution for these battles. You should be lucky to read this section
and the other followig 2 sections as well, I sent a lot of time making and
thinking about them. So you should be grateful. You can decide not to use
them and that would be the greatest challenge ever, thinking about Emerald's
and Ruby's greatest powers and you'll have to deal with them alone. If not,
then keep on reading them. Note that for the first version, I'll only
include of how to beat it with KotR, this is the first path that I took.
In the later version, will I then add how to beat them without it. Being as
so many people on the boards hate the idea of using KotR and consider it to
be cheap and cheating. I did consider that aspect, but for this game, those
are defintely not true due to the lowered power it can dish out. One more
thing, only get Yuffie after you have gathered all the preparations. Have
an extra save file before you get Yuffie and one after you get her.
Get Speedy and Lucky: Get Cloud and Tifa's Luck and Speed Stats to 170 and
then give them a mastered Luck and Speed Plus. Luck Plus is found in the
Temple of the Ancients. If you didn't get it too bad, you might want to get
to 255 instead. Speed Plus is won in the Battle Square by trading in BPs.
For those that find this too cheap and shouldn't be placed on the character
due to the fact this should be a low level game, look elsewhere. As for a
word as advice for those people, consider getting a lot of Speed and Luck
Plus's, preferably 10 of them at minimum, each. Chocobracelet and/or Sprint
Shoes. Get 99 of each sources etra because it will given to Yuffie when
she joins in.
Materias Needed, not Mastered:
KotR
Phoenix
Hades
W-Item (get 3 if possible)
HP<=>MP
Fire
W-Summon
Materias Needed to be Mastered:
(3) Magic Plus Materia (more if possible)
(3) Mime (Once you get the 3rd one, it doesn't need mastering)
(4) Luck and Speed Materia (more if possible)
(1) Elemental
(1) W-Item (get at least one of these, three is optional)
(1) HP Plus (2 extra might be needed, but optional)
Optional Materia: Underwater (needed for Emerald)
Items needed: Hero Drinks, Spider Web, Dazers, Megalixirs
Equipment:
Weapons: Ultimate Weapon, Premium Heart, Conformer
Armor: Mystile (for invasion), or/and Wizard Bracelet (for Higher Magic)
Accessory: Sprint Shoes (Haste througout battle)
*Won from Chocobo Racing
Ribbon (Protection from Ruby, only put in consideration)
*Morph Ho-Chu
Circlet (Adds Magic and Spirit by 30, Magic is main subject)
*Get more Circlet by stealing them from Ho-Chu in Special Battle
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The Real Challenge: Level 7 Tifa V.S. Ruby Weapon HP: 800,000
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I choose Level 7 Tifa because she has the lowest level in the game at
this point in the game. Be assured that Cloud can beat Ruby as well,
being at Level 8 with this same strategy. Yuffie can do this as well, but
she also can use a different strategy to win as well, being that is more
tactical then the one that I'm going to tell you. This battle shouldn't
be too much for you to absorb, being as Ruby is easy to beat in the first
place, from testing and IMO.
Get Tifa's Dex to 170+ and her Luck to 170+, then by giving her a Luck
and Magic Plus mastered materia, she'll get 255 of each for her stats
(Note: 170 Speed is fine as well, I did beat Ruby with that Speed)
Give her Premium Heart and Wizard Bracelt and Circlet
(Ribbon if you in doubt, you don't need to be though, trust me)
Materia include:
3 Magic Plus (Mastered)
Luck Plus (Mastered)
Speed Plus (Mastered)
HP Plus (Mastered, two might be needed, until you reach 400MP)
W-Summon
W-Item
Hades
KotR
Mime
HP<=>MP
Elemental(Mastered) = Fire (on armor)
Set the game speed to slowest posssible and wait mode.
Items needed:
2 to 4 Dazers
3 Hero Drinks
Megalixir or Elixir (Optional)
Begin the battle with the other two allies, Cloud and Yuffie, KOed. Ruby
will sink his claws. Use Dazer first on Ruby and then on the left claw
with W-Item. Give Tifa 2 Hero Drinks. Then give Tifa a Hero Drink and
Dazer Ruby again in that order. Next summon Hades and KOTR on Claws, in
that order. Keep Mimiming with Mime after that, until you have beaten
Ruby. Take caution when using the items, timing is everything, especially
when you are at this kinda of speed. There is one crucial time that you
can die and that is after you use your 5th KotR on Ruby. Ruby might on
that turn use Ruby Ray, which can just kill you. If it decided to dig it's
claws or use Ruby Flame, then you're fine. Notice that after you use a
Dazer on Ruby, you can full 5 turns on Ruby with the Hades/KotR attack.
Being as the first one paralyze him, Hades, and the other 4 is because of
Tifa's Speed. Dazers effect doesn't last long, but if you time it right,
then Ruby won't ever hurt you whatsoever.
It should take only less than 25 minutes to beat him. I beated him in 23
minutes 20 seconds. Just remember this is doable and I'm not a expert,
I'm a pure hearted challenger.
This strategy was manipulated and converted for my this battle, a
similiar one is found it Arctic's Guide.
Note: It's possible to beat Ruby without raising Dex to 255, read the
strats if you want to find out why.
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The Final Challenge: LLP V.S. Emerald
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You need the whole party alive to beat this guy. After you have pulled
the pair of summons, you are good to go with Mime. Just hope that you
pair of summons won't make him use the Revenge Stamp on you, he only does
this when his eyes are opened. Before pulling out the pair of Summons,
let me explain your preparation for this battle. This is how I did it,
anyone can find their own way of beating this guy, this is just an
example of a way that works.
Cloud
Ultima Weapon
Wizard Bracelet
Circlet
Enough Plus Materias to get 255 Dexterity and 255 Luck. I had 2 Mastered
Speed Materias and 1 Mastered Luck. Mastered Magic Plus, W-Item, Mime,
and an Underwater Materia. You need it for this battle, but I might be
wrong. I did count the total ammount needed for this battle. It should
be 14-16 minutes, seeing as I did pause a lot throughout the battle.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Tifa
Premium Hear
Wizard Bracelet
Circlet
Enough Plus Materias to get 190 Dexerity and 255 Luck. 3 Speed Materias
Mastered, and Luck Materia Mastered. Mime Mastered, W-Item, 2 Magic
Plus' (One Mastered and one with 1 Star)
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Yuffie
Conformer
Wizard Bracelet
Sprint Shoes
HP<=>MP materia, needed to summon. Mime. W-Summon. Mastered Magic Plus.
MP Turbo = KotR, MP Turbo = Phoenix. Note that MP Turbo isn't needed, but
since I already did plan to use them, I decided to add it for kickers.
Enough Plus Materias to get 181 Dexerity and 234 Luck. I had 2 Mastered
Luck Materias and 1 Mastered Speed Materia.
Items Needed:
1 Spider Web
3 Speed Drinks (Optional, but helpful, not included in the strat)
6 Hero Drinks (Optional, but helpful sometimes)
Turn to Battle Speed to as low as possible and set the ATB to wait mode,
do these settings before the battle, you can't after in Sub. Begin the
battle with Spider Web on Emerald, this actually will slow him down, if
you didn't nocite the difference. If you choose a guy that has a W-Item
equipped, first choose the Spider Web, than give Yuffie the Hero Drink.
Emerald should, most of the time, get the first attack which is Emerald
Shoot. This will deal 999 and kill that character. Make sure that person
isn't Yuffie. If he starts out with Stamp, then you really have poor luck
then, because this is a critical point of killing you instantly.
After the Hero Drink has been entered, have Yuffie summon Phoenix and
then KotR. It has to be in that order. After the Phoenix's attack has
ended, your fallen ally will slowly get his ATB bar filling. Before KotR
will take place, quickly have that character use Mime. After the KotR has
ended, sometime Emerald will use Stamp as a counterattack. Make sure that
this attack doesn't kill everyone. At least one person will have enough
luck to escape this attack, trust me.
For a faster way, but a more dangerous way, have the second W-Item person
use the other Hero Drinks on the other two, Cloud and Tifa, so that their
Mimed Summons can deal 9999 as well.
After the pair of summons has been unleashed for 3-5 Times, Emerald will
now start opening up and before you can make a move, he'll unleash Emerald
Beam, which can't kill you. It's like a Demi move. Here come the critical
point in which you could, or not, lose and have to start over. On the next
Mimed Summons, Phoenix will come out and hit. After it has ended, he'll
counter with Revenge Stamp. This move right here takes a lot of luck to
evade. Make sure the one that survives isn't the one that casted it in
the first place, if not, that prepare for another critical point. When
the KotR has ended, he might use a Revenge Stamp again, or in a regular
case, he'll use Aire Tam Storm. In which case, you better pray to god
that this doesn't kill everyone all at once. That last KotR probably
should've killed the eyes and now it will slowly dissolve its eyes,
giving you a extra turn for recovery, best if you done this quickly as
possible. A second Revenge Stamp on also be used after the KotR.
After the 6 to 9th Paired Summon, Emerald will slowly fade away. This,
BTW, is based on my Magic and Luck (meaning the real thing) It took me
about 7 tries to beat Emerald with this strategy. I played this guy
again when I typing this up with a Laptop and watched the battle. So
having the Memory Cursor on, can help out a lot when you plan on being
lazy. Remember to take an advatange of the Wait, so that you don't too
overly excited. This took me about 17 Minutes. Good Game. You've just
now completed one of the greatest battles and challenges in FFVII.
I got like 3 HP<=>MP materias because I thought I needed it, but instead it
was a total waste of time, it's worthless at the end. I just needed one. I
spent too much time to do this LLP game, more than LAL, but not out game,
but in game. I used a little bit under 59 hours to do this Challenge. Also,
I hope that if you have some spare times, try to get more Magic Plus Materia
and they better be mastered. This will help greatly against Ruby and Emerald
If you didn't notice, I didn't fully fill up all the materia slots. So using
the Ultimate Weapons and Wizard Bracelets isn't really neeed, but it does
give a good Magic boost, stats wise. So it would be best to stick with this
setup.
Demi = Quadra Magic Doesn't Work Because: You don't have enough Magic to hit
him. Meaning most of the casted Demi will be Miss. If it scores, it will do
9999, but I estimated that that is a 1 in 7 chance. Miming a Quadra Magic
will cost you MP, for each casting, which isn't really a great deal is it
now, yeah, I didn't think so.
Final Attack = Mime, Phoenix, KotR, and W-Summon Doesn't Work Because: For
some reason the computer doesn't recognize very complex materia setups as
its own. If you try to Final Attack Mime, mimicing a Phoenix, it won't work
A few experts, Shadow666, has also confirmed about these results.
And this will End My Lowest Levels Challenge. I hope you can do this as well
Some will be amazed at how much one can do, when one tests these things out.
I just couldn't figure out why no one has done this sooner. FFVII has the
most Fanboys out of all the Final Fantasy Series, but there is a lot of
novices out there that claim to be experts. But since this FAQ has been
release, a lot of experts are becoming a newbie once again and learning from
this game even more. Well, I'm done with this and moving on to a new FFVII
challenge known as the Speed Game, aka Speed Run. A group of people have
already started this we, including some that I have listed in the credits
list, like GarlandG and MetalGearSolidBoy (MGSB). When I'm done with that
challenge, I will move on to FFX and the NSG series.
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INDEPTH FAQ
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Q: What's the lowest average level for beating the game?
A: A party that consist of everyone being at level 28 and Cloud at level 26 by
using this guide to do so. These levels can't go any lower then this.
Average Wise. Vincient will join at level 30, so it would be best not to
get him, that way you can say you have everyone at level 28 and under. This
also means that you can not ever out lower these numbers, unless you use a
cheating device to do so. I will correct my errors if you can only prove me
wrong.
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Q: What's the lowest level party you can beat the game with?
A: The lowest level party you can beat the game with is Cloud, Tifa, and
Yuffie. Cloud because he can basically not get any EXP througout all the
battles. Tifa has the same thing as Cloud, plus she starts out with the
lowest EXP and level in the whole game. Yuffie can avoid all the EXP on
disc 1 and 2, but she enters the party at level 17. At least it's lower
than the other members. You must get Yuffie after Disc 2 though.
There is an exact low level though. Cloud at 8, Tifa at 7, and Yuffie at
level 17 This, my friends, should be the real challenge in a Low Level
game. Or maybe not. I've already figured out how to make this challenge a
lot easier. The whole point is to have Cloud and Tifa be KOed at every
possible battle and level up when they are in the party so that you be
sure that they won't get any EXP at all. Get Yuffie after you're finished
getting any EXP. Since Yuffie's Level is based on Cloud's level, keeping
Cloud low means Yuffie will always be at level 17, no matter other members'
level.
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Q: What's the lowest level for any one character by the end of the game?
A: I, myself, asked this same question. And Frankly, I found the answer.
Here is the list.
Cloud: Level 8
Tifa: Level 7
Barret: Level 8
Aeris: Level 7 before she leaves
Nanaki: Level 9
Yuffie: Level 17
Cait: Level 8
Cid: Level 14 (needs more backup due to average level)
Vincient:Level 15 (needs more backup due to average level)
Basically you can select any two characters have them at those levels at
the end ot the game. Three is impossible because one person has to take at
least some EXP, making them level up. I haven't gotten Vincient, even
though I could test this out as well, probably by the next update.
From Cait to getting Cid, those levels aren't the lowest. A lot people
has pointed this out. Cait was gotten in 8, so I will change it now.
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Q: What's the lowest level anyone can join the game at?
A: For this question. I'll give the number with a small explanation.
Cloud: Level 6 This is the starting level, no matter what you do. The
other lowest level that you can see him in is at level
one. That is when he is with Sephiroth.
Barret: Level 6 This is also the lowest for him. It can't be changed,
because Cloud couldn't escape any of his battles
Tifa: Level 4 Due to my testing of keeping the average level of the
current party low, this is the lowest. No doubt.
Aeris: Level 2 This truely is the lowest possibel. The same as what I
said for Tifa, but she shouldn't really matter. No one
will see her level by the end of the game. Just good
for you know that this is the lowest level she can join
at, that's all.
Nanaki: Level 8 This is the lowest possible because you can't protect
Tifa nor Aeris from leveling during some of the battles,
this by forcing their levels the rise rapidly. You, and
I can't stop this raise, because this is not optional to
us. Aeris won't take apart in the fight against H0512 is
one of them, and big one at that.
Yuffie: Level 17 Yuffie's level is totally based on Cloud's level and no
matter what level Cloud is on when he is at level 20 and
lower, you'll always get a level 17 Yuffie. If Cloud's
level is more than 20, like 21, then Yuffie's entering
level would be 22. Yuffie will keep coming on 22 until
Cloud's level is more than 25, so on and so forth.
Cait: Level 8, So far
Vincient: Level 15, So far
Cid: Level 14, So far
Other lower level are currently not known, yet.
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Q: Does Tifa and Cloud get EXP while they're in Mideel?
A: No, they don't. At first I thought they did, but later on, GarlandG said it
didn't. So I tested this part myself and sure enough, it was true. So this
will be one of the best times to get Enemy Skills, since only one person
will get the Full and one other will get the half.
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Q: What are some battles that you don't have to get so much EXP from?
A:+During the Rufus fight, don't kill Darknation
+Don't kill any H0512-opt, the one with Nanaki in it
+From the 3 Icicles, don't kill the bats
+Carry Armor battle, try to beat this boss without knocking of his arms out
+Rude at Rocket Town, beat him without killing the Shinra Soldiers in front
of him.
All of these were given from GarlandG and he deserves all the credit for
pointing this out. Except for the 3 Icicles, I figured this out on my own.
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Q: Is it possible to beat this challenge without learning any Enemy Skills?
A: I personally try to do this part myself. That is the reason why my Battle
Plan did not get Big Guard and the other 2 enemy skills until Carry Armor.
I believe it would be near impossilbe to beat Carry Armor without Big Guard.
Yet there are certain ways to of beating him without getting any Enemy
Skils. Read that section for more details, but those tactics will require
a lot of time to do. It's possible though, just to let you know, I just
haven't done it yet.
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Q: Is there a way to max out stats in this challenge?
A: Yes. This will be a long and hard task. You have to find creatures that are
paired up in twos. That way you can morph one and leave the other one
behind while you flee, making you get no EXP whatsoever. There isn't a lot
so far that I've found. Here is a list of what I got so far and some are
from the Battle Arena as well. I think it's best done after you've gotten
Yuffie and given her the Conformer. Against some bosses though, it will
still do low damages so warned if thinking about doing this.
Power Source: Screamer x 2, Screamer x 2 and Twin Brain (Mt. Nibel)
Guard Source: Spirals x 2 (Mideel Area)
Magic Source: 8 Eye (Battle Arena)
Mind Source : Kilbin (Whirlwind Maze)
Speed Source: Poodler (Gelnika)
Luck Source : Bad Rap (Gelnika)
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Q: What's the max jump in levels one person can do in a battle?
A: From what I found so far, the best ones to do this with is Cloud and Tifa
in a LLP Game. They both are raised to the same level, but Tifa would
get one more level because she had one lower than Cloud did. So for the
record books, the max jump is 22 levels! Tifa being at level 7. Then when
she faces Jenova Synthesis, she'll gain 60,000, the highest EXP given in
one battle, and then her level will jump to level 29. (29 - 7 = 22)
Added Later: I must find myself corrected. Myself correcting my previous
statement. In fact, those aren't the max. You can get 120,000 EXP from that
same battle, just by adding on EXP Plus (2 Starred or Mastered) This will
get you this instead: (Not known yet, I haven't tested this out)
Added Later: I have just done it, but it isn't so glamous as it may seem.
The higheset jump is now 30, Tifa going from Level 7 to Level 37 from the
same battle. Yet you'll only see Tifa go to level 17. Once she has reached
17, from 7, here level will instantly jump to 37. Disappointing isn't it?
I was hoping for a couple minutes of numbers rolling, LOL, o well.
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Q: How do you determine what level each Character will join at?
A: Well, each character's level, that is joining in, will have the current
average level of everyone in the party. Plus or Minus a certain mod number,
depending on the character. For examples: Tifa's Level = Cloud and Barret's
level added together, and divide by 2. Then minus 2 because that is Tifa's
mod number for her levels. All characters in the inactive party counts as
well. Meaning when Cait joins; Cloud, Tifa, Aeris, Barret, and Nanaki's
level, deterimine Cait's level as well. Include Yuffie, if you have gotten
her.
PAL = Current Party's Average Level
Cloud = Starts out at level 6, not determined by anyone else
Barret = CPAL - 1
Tifa = CPAL - 2
Aeris = CPAL - 3
Nanaki = CPAL + 2
Yuffie = Cloud's Level | Yuffie's Level
0 - 20 | 17
21 - 25 | 22
26 - 30 | 27
31 - 35 | 32
36 - 40 | 37
41 - 99 | 42
Cait = CPAL + 1
Vincient= CPAL + 3
Cid = CPAL + 3
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Q: To get 2-1 and 3-1 Limit Breaks, can't you just kill some enemies and then
run away, so that they'll count toward the full tally? The same thing for
learning Enemy Skills?
A: No, those won't count toward at all. You can try but you'll fail. All those
numbers of kills only counts if you have won the battle only. This concepts
applies for both Limit Breaks and Enemy Skills? And another thing, nothing
done in the Battle Arena counts towards anything because you don't get the
screen at the end about the total number of EXP and AP gained.
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Q: What is the lowest level character that can beat Ruby, one on one?
A: A Level 7 Tifa. This might amaze you, but it's quite possible, even with
a Level 8 Cloud, not too much a differnce is there? Well, it's possible
and I have done it to prove it. Read about it in the LLP section.
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Q: I don't think those are the Lowest Level's that you've gotten. I've gotten
a more lower level than, by average I mean. Are you going to move this
silly FAQ from Gamefaqs and type another one?
A: No I won't because all my levels are the Lowest Average Levels. Even if
you got a lowere level average than what I got, can you honestly say
that every single of your characters' level is lower than what I got, no,
I didn't think so.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but those are the facts and I'm
sticking to them. There was this one challenge that would be quite
interesting to, it somewhat combines the LAL with the LLP to get the lowest
of them. All you have to do is have Aeris and Cid take the Full EXP in
all battles. If Aeris is avaliable, use her, when she leaves use Cid to
take her place. Yet the LLP part is that you must always have Cloud and
Tifa in the active party as KOed peoples. I can't give Lolo26 any credit
for this because I found the Lowest One Possible. He did some me what he
did, but it wasn't lower than my findings, and I dind't even have to
test this out, I just know it. By average I mean.
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Game Challenges Done by Author
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Not to brag about my accomplishments or anything. These are the challenges
I've done when I've started to become a true gamer. And I've also listed some
of the challenges that I'm wanted to do and complete.
Final Fantasy IX: Level One Game
No Equipment Game
Excalibur II
Perfect Save Without Maxing Stats
Final Fantasy VIII: No Junction Game
ODINS Challenge (One Day In No Saves)
Perfect Game (Maxing out every stats, except for Speed
and Luck)
Final Fantasy VII: Initial Equipment with No Materia Challenge
Perfect Game (With Best Materia Combo for everyone,
missing one KOTR though, until I have 8 KOTR)
Lowest Average Level Game (LAL)
Lowest Level Party Game (LLP)
Final Fantasy X: Perfect Game
Super Marino RPG: ODINS (One Days In No Saves)
Perfect Game
Zelda OOT: Perfect Game
Other Challenge I hope I can complete in the future:
Final Fantasy X: NSG
NSGNCNONS
ODINS (One Days In No Saves)
Final Fantasy X-2: Six Iron Dukes (I got 5 so far, working on 6)
Level One, One, Two Game
ODINS
Final Fantasy IX: Attack and Item Only Game
ODINS (One Day In No Saves)
Zelda OOT: Three Hearts, No Death, Minimum Requirements Game
ODINS (One Days In No Saves)
Zeld MM: Three Days Game (Even better than ODINS)
Super Mario RPG: Level Three Game
Starcraft: Get over 1000 wins (Currently have 700s)
*Note*
If you don't know what ODINS is, it stands for 'One days in No Saves.' Also
known as a No Save Game, except that you have to beat it within 24 hours. The
concept of a No Save game doesn't really explain it's true meaning. You can
just leave the system on and go to sleep and by tomorrow you can play it some
more. That isn't a real challenge. ODINS give you the full name that you
should do it. It's a very enduranced base challenge. You must know the game
very well and you must not sleep throughout the whole process, even if you're
using a automatic turbofire controller.
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Other FAQs Used
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Here is the list of FAQs that I used on gamefaqs in creation of this one.
Even though they might not know it, I truly give them a lot of credit of
creating this piece as well
Low Level FAQ
Limit Break Mechanism Guide
AA's WALKTHROUGH (Copied and paste a part from his as well)
(Apathetic Aardvark a.k.a. Sine Nomine)
Arctic's Guide (One of the Strats to beat Ruby with)
Chocobo Raising Guide
Don Cornero FAQ
Max Stats Guide
Weapons Guide
DC's List (Even though this was very inaccurate)
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Credits
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Here is all the people that helped me with this FAQ. Even though I have
said there names before this will contribute to their true knowledge and
wisdom for helping me make this thing. Helped me meaning on the message
boards and giving me more insights then ever.
Terence: One of the first people to help me out on the boards. Besides
that, I just remember that from my previous FAQ, that he was also
one of the people that helped me make my FFIX max stats guide. Now
for FFVII, he has given me the formulas of solving each character's
EXP requirement to reach certain levels. I truly love this man. If
only if he would give me the rest of the Mod Numbers so that I may
finish my list. Come on man, please. This man is a genius when it
comes to giving out formulas. Added Later: Helped on Emerald,
listed the attacks and their powers, which is just extra knowledge.
Defcon999: At first I thought this guy was a newbie or something, but later
on I was amazed on the ammount of info he holds. During my
research he helped me with a lot of different ideas. He was also
the only one person that helped me with my large challenge,
which I made FAQ to, but I never finished it and it never got
finished. I'll try to finish it and hope that gamefaqs will
accept it. Defcon is an expert that is waiting to have
questioned answered. In fact, in some Walkthroughs that you
might read on gamefaqs, his name will be credited as well.
One last thing, Deuce ex Defcon is his second account, which is
pretty obvious. Added Later: Also helped me with studying
Emerald and the Level 8 Cloud VS Special Battle part as well.
GarlandG: After I've started my research and testing, this guy fucked me
up. He told me the Ultimate Battle Plan ever made. He made it and
I hate him. Why didn't he tell me he had it sooner? I could've
used it. Even though I needed to manipulate it a little for my
own benefits. This guy has done this challenge and typed a similar
FAQ in another language. Hopefully I can use his FAQ and this one
and combine strategies to form one large ass one, also hoping that
Gamefaqs will accept it. This concept is on standby, since Garland
hasn't replied yet. Added Later: Garland has decided to submit
his FAQ under a different name and I agree with him with the fact
that our FAQ are very different. His being that all his
character's total exp are very similiar and that everyone is at
level 28 by the end of the game. Hope he can get it done and have
his posted on Gamefaqs as well.
Shadow666: For posting up so many of the same answered questioned that I've
always wondered about while I was doing this challenge. Added
Later: He also gave me conformation about my materia setup that
I was going to use on Ruby and Emerald, even though I didn't
mention those names while asking those questions. I truly am
grateful from your wisdom.
Shadow411: Doing the same thing as Shadow666, I wonder if they are the same
person or not. He did make many, "Online Frequently Asked
Questions (OFAQ)" on the message boards. Which are the best
things a newbie can ask. Maybe he should just make a FAQ called
the 'Ultimate Neverending FAQ Guide.' So that it will keep on
growing, I can help him add a few stuff from this FAQ as well.
THE INSOMNIA: He did help through this challenge, somewhat, he desires some
credit for his efforts. Added Later: He desire more credit
since he was willing to test out Emerald with me. Good guy.
CyrusViRuZ: For telling me that you can get the 1-2 limit break for Cloud
on the very first battle against Scorpion Guard. I haven't done
this yet, but he said it's doable based upon the items that
are avaliable at the beginning of the game.
Lolo26: For noticing the true LAL wasn't what at all what I had thought
it would be. Even though I read some thing else on boards relating
to this, before he emailed me, he still deserves some credit. A
Q&A was made soley for this purpose. He also joined the Speed Run
topic and gave a lot of helpful ideas and strategys.
MetalGearSolidBoy: For emailing his recordings of the EXP requirements for
Cloud and Tifa from Level 31 to Level 99. His email
address is
[email protected], I didn't even know his
User Name until he has posted on my topic.
Bergqvist: This guy has tested Garland's Battle Plan first, which someone
lead me to writing this guide. He also as part of the Speed Run
topic and did rather well.
Others: Catnip,
CJayC and Gamefaqs: The only place I go to when it comes to hardcore gaming.
This place is where I look upon when I need help in a game or
making a FAQ like this one. Without it, this won't have existed.
Hopefully this FAQ will only be used by Gamefaqs, not Gamespot,
or worse yet, AOL! I have heard about this by the way and I
don't approve of them using our guides, but not crediting that
it came from Gamefaqs, shame on them.
To Hypropahnt, my long lost love, where are you?! Come back to me... LOL...
My Brother, Elton Chang, and Mother, Gui Ling Chang for being there with me
all the time. Love Yall.
Last, but not least, KADFC. The author of this FAQ.
