Warsong/Langrisser FAQ 7.2, 5/10/2012
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About this FAQ
This FAQ answers common questions about the Sega Genesis game
"Warsong", published by Treco. Thanks to a number of generous fans,
almost all the stats are completed and in now.
Things I'd still like to know:
- Battle formula for how damage and bonuses are determined
- Different strategies for beating the scenarios
- "Clear bonus" for each level
You can find the latest copy of this FAQ at www.gamefaqs.com
What's here/Table of contents [QFZ]
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ABOUT THE GAME (QFA)
getting a copy
new in this FAQ
HOW TO PLAY (QFY)
moving troops
attacking
casting spells
the scenario map
preferences
GENERAL ADVICE AND TACTICS (QFT)
spell draining
formations
terrain, movement and defense (QFM)
experience (QFE)
WALKTHROUGH (QFW)
CHARACTERS AND ADVANCEMENT PATHS (QFA)
TROOP COMPARISONS
player/enemy troop comparisons
COMMANDER CLASS COMPARISONS (QFC)
discussions of individual classes
ITEMS (QFI)
SPELLS (QFS)
CODES AND CHEATING
RUMORS, NITPICKS COMMENTS
CHALLENGES
UNIT DATA SPREADHSEET (link) (QFX)
17. Thanks & credits
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About the game: [QFA]
Warsong is a 1991 turn-based strategy game (sometimes called a Simulation
Game/SLG) originally released in Japan as "Langrisser" (or Lungrisser) for
the Sega MegaDrive system. It was ported to the Sega Genesis as "Warsong".
Although it was hardly noticed at the time, it attracted a die-hard
following of fans who found it in bargain bins. It is now considered one of
the coolest strategy games to come out on the Sega Genesis platform. The
game spawned 7 sequels (at the time of this writing) in Japan, none of
which were brought to the US.
The Megadrive ROM "Langrisser II" has been fan-translated into English,
first by the Hiryuu'Honyaku team and then more completely by MIJET.
You can download the translation patch (not the ROM, you'll have to
google for that elsewhere) from MIJET:
http://mijet.eludevisibility.org/Langrisser%20II/LangrisserII.html
During the game, you slowly acquire ally leaders, each of whom can
hire up to 8 troops (each troop representing 10 soldiers) to fight in
stages called Scenarios. Each scenario starts you out in a defensive
position with enemies nearby and a goal to accomplish. Typical goals
are, "Protect this person", "Destroy all the enemies", "Destroy the
enemy leader (other enemies optional)" and several other types. You
chose where to place your troops in the beginning, and the formations
you want to fight in.
Along the way, you also acquire special items that can increase the
power of your commanders. As your commanders gain experience, they
can be promoted to different "classes" with new spells, and new
abilities.
Warsong is a well-designed game for it's time, has nicely drawn
'Anime'-style graphics and one of the best soundtracks for any
Genesis game. For strategy game fans, it has quite a lot of
re/playability too.
Getting a copy
Warsong was made by the software company 'Treco', a small company
which seems to have published very little, unfortunately. No other
Langrisser games were ported to the Genesis (though a few showed
up on the Sega Saturn)
Unfortunately, Warsong didn't sell too well on the Genesis and is
somewhat hard to find. Your best bet for a cartridge is likely to be ebay.
A check of ebay at the time of this writing showed several carts for sale at
about $15-60. As a 20-year-old game, the battery backup may be dying and
you may be unable to save.
Your other alternative is a Genesis emulator and a ROM. An emulator
runs on your PC and 'plays' ROMs that have been turned into ordinary
files. Emulators are available for several platforms (they all run
each other's ROMs). It is legal to own an emulator, but illegal to
own a ROM without owning the original cartridge. Listed below are
popular emulators;
PC: Genecyst, KGen, GenEm, *Megasis, *Gens
Mac: *GenEm
Most emulators now can run Warsong. If you experience trouble, look for
Gens and GenEm which I've used to play both Warsong and Langrisser II.
For a list of genesis emulators, visit
http://archaic-ruins.parodius.com/genesis/emulator.htm
or
http://genecyst.parodius.com/
or
http://www.emux.com
or
http://www.gens.emuforce.com
Sites may or may not be up, and move frequently. It is best to try
a google search for "Gens", "Megasis" or "Warsong ROM"
New in this FAQ
I have added updates to the classes and added other information gained from
examining the raw data in the ROM (using a hex editor & Amuseum's guide).
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HOW TO PLAY (for people without manuals)
Warsong is a strategy game. The object of each scenario is to
accomplish the scenario goals through killing as many enemy units as
possible and losing as few allied units as you can.
Each scenario starts in "troop purchase & item distribution" mode.
You will see eight boxes (four at the top and four at the bottom of
the screen). The boxes will be filled in with pictures of
commanders. Don't worry if some of the boxes are "bricked out", you
will gain and lose commanders as the game progresses.
From this screen, you can assign the items you have collected to each
commander. Each commander can only carry one item. You do not have
to distribute all the items, but (except for the evil axe) it doesn't
hurt. Most items affect the commander's personal attack/defense
ratings, but have no effect on the troops.
Each commander can purchase troops. Only one kind of troop can be
assigned to a commander at one time, although they may have several
types (eg, archer, horseman & soldier) to choose from. You may
assign up to eight troops to any one commander. You do not have to
assign troops. It costs money to hire them, and it is usually better
not to have the max. Troops do not carry over to the next scenario, so any
troops that never see combat are basically wasted money. It also takes
time to move or cycle through the units each turn. 6 troops is usually
adequate for a commander you want to promote, 0-4 are better for the
others, depending on whether they will be used to soften up the enemy.
After you are through assigning troops and items, proceed to the
next screen; assigning locations. Here you see a map of the entire
scenario, with enemy starting positions as flashing blue dots. You
can see potential starting positions as yellow crosses.
You must assign all available commanders to a starting location.
Place each commander on one of the open crosses (you can't place two
commanders in the same place). When all commanders have been
assigned, start the game.
The main scenario map shows each commander surrounded by his or her
troops. The game procedes in three 'phases'. Your movement phase,
allied/friendly commander's movement phase, and the enemy's movement
phase. The only phase you have any control over is the first one.
During your turn, you have several options. You can move troops,
move commanders, attack or cast spells.
Moving troops
This is fairly simple. Select the troop, the cursor changes to a winged
boot. The game calculates where your troop can move to (based on movement
points and costs, explained later). The squares that are unavailable are
darkened. You can move the cursor to any brightened square and select it.
The unit will move to the location you specified, and if an enemy is
nearby you will have the option to attack it. If you do not attack
immediately, you can't change your mind later. You'll have to wait until
the next turn.
You cannot move through or on top of an enemy unit, even if it is
flying. Troops that are next to their commander at the beginning of
the main Enemy/Friendly phase are healed up to 3 points.
Moving commanders follows the same procedure. If the commander's
troops are in formation mode, any troops that were not moved may be
moved automatically at the end of your phase.
Attacking
Either select 'attack' from the troop/commander menu or move the
troop/commander next to an enemy unit. The cursor changes to a
sword. Select an available enemy and press C, or press B to
cancel attacking (you cannot attack later the same turn if you choose
to pass; your troop will be Greyed out).
The attack procedes automatically, and there is nothing you can do to
influence the outcome short of restarting and attacking again.
During the battle, the two troops will rush towards each other to
attack. The center box shows what is currently being calculated and
factored into combat. Adjustments due to the terrain, commander's
level and geography are all taken into account.
Swords appear on both the left and right side representing how many
'kills' each side has made in that battle. If the opposing unit is
wiped out, the victorious unit's commander gains experience. If both
are wiped out, both get xp. The green bar representing experience
(inside the gold border) gets longer. When it is full, the commander
advances a level. When a commander advances to level 10, they can
move up a class. (detailed on the advancement paths) They start
out at level one in their new class. If they are at maximum advancement,
they will stop gaining experience at level 9. It is possible for enemy
commanders to gain levels, but none advance to other classes (except
through story events). You generally kill all enemy commanders each
level, so their advancement is not really an issue.
Casting a spell
Only commanders can cast spells, and it takes all their actions (they
cannot move or attack on the same turn). Select the commander and
the spell you want to cast. Now select the center of the area of
effect of the spell (squares that are too far away are darkened).
The screen brightens the squares that will be affected by the spell.
If you are satisfied with how the spell is targeted, continue to cast
the spell. Both the distance away from the caster and the area of
effect increase when the caster advances past level 5 in their class.
Spell ranges and effects are listed in another part of this FAQ.
You do not regain MP until the next scenario.
The scenario map
You can move the cursor on top of a square or unit to see more about
it. When you move on top of a commander or a troop, the commander's
'sphere of influence' blinks green, and all the commander's troops
have a flashing yellow dot (or blue dot in the case of enemies).
Troops with an 'x' in front of them are allied troops;
computer-controlled, but friendly to you. It is OK to allow allied
commanders to die, they will return later. Troops with an 'E' in
front of them are 'Frozen' and can't be moved.
Additionally, the commander displays another icon representing which
formation mode the troops are in. A sword means 'attack', a shield
means 'defense', a boot means 'move' and the finger means 'manual'.
All troops belonging to the commander inside the 'sphere of
influence' gain a bonus to attack and defense, based on the
commander's class. (see the list of classes)
Each troop displays a number representing how much 'power' the troop
has left. When the power reaches zero, the troop is destroyed and
cannot be revived. A troop with at least one power can be brought
back to the commander to be healed.
If you move the cursor over an unoccupied tile, you will see a
picture of the tile, followed by a description and the defense
adjustment provided. See 'moving and defense' for more about this.
Game Preferences
You can adjust the game speed to slow, normal or fast. The default
is Normal. In Normal mode, the cursor moves to the enemy, selects
each troop, selects the destination for the troop to move to, then
animates moving the troop. It also moves to each commander when
they talk. In slow mode, it does each of the steps slowly. In
fast mode, the cursor "jumps" to each troop and just moves it
without stopping to draw its movement path. Hold down "B" in slow
or normal mode to make the game behave one speed faster. While
many prefer Fast mode, Normal mode gives you more of a perspective of
how far away (and where) the enemy is, since you can see it scrolling
the screen to them. In Fast mode, you should periodically check to
see where the enemies are.
"BGM" turns background music on or off. (see the cheats section
about changing the background music). In "Semi-Automatic" mode, the
cursor moves from troop to troop, opening it's move mode to allow you
to set the destination and action for each troop. It's annoying
since it usually doesn't select the troops in an order that's
helpful.
Interruption saves the game mid-scenario. You can only have one
"interrupted" state. You are prompted to save the game after each
level. It is suggested that you use a different save slot when you
are trying to decide which advancement path to send a commander.
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GENERAL ADVICE AND TACTICS [QFT]
It helps to save after each level, then start the new level with no
troops (just place commanders in any order) to see where the enemies
start and what troops they have. Then reset and pick commanders,
troops and placement to match.
Once a leader joins your team (ie. you can place them and control them), they
will die permanently if they get killed. I would reset or restart the
scenario if this happened. One commander is scripted to die (he'll do it at
the end of a level after you've beaten it) and another will leave before the
final boss. Both of these cases are normal and cannot be prevented.
The enemy will not move their troops out of their "sphere of influence" (the
blinking green squares). If the enemy chases you, they can accidentally
strand some troops. These troops will attack anything that moves next to
them, but won't move on their own unless their commander comes back.
A commander with troops will almost never attack directly, unless one of
your troops is sitting next to them. When all their troops are gone,
though, they'll attack the weakest unit they can get to. A stranded troop
will still keep commanders from attacking directly.
Everyone, even the weakest troop has a chance of doing at least 1
damage to any enemy (if you're incredibly lucky, 2 points), even
when the numbers show that it couldn't possibly work. Yes, out-of
range soldiers flinging spears can kill (a weakened) Chaos. Cool,
huh? To eke out experience, save the game and restart until the
soldiers or leader takes out the enemy. Freddie Nguyen points out
that Civilians (with an attack power of 0!) can kill barbarians
sometimes. Likewise, I've seen them hurt a styrac on Scen 15. It's
amusing, but not something you should be counting on. :)
An enemy commander at 7 or less HPs will always choose to heal,
rather than cast a spell or do anything else. Enemies won't attack
with troops lowered to 6 or less. This means that if you hit the
enemy with a Thunder or two, you will prevent it from attacking you
for a while. This is somewhat bad AI, since the game could win
sometimes (particularly on Scen 8) if it would just run for it.
Magic is somewhat underestimated by many people. Magic ALWAYS does
a certain amount of damage to each enemy within range. That means
that even if your troops can't hope to damage the enemies, the
combined damage from several thunders, tornadoes and magic arrows in
a row can rip the enemy apart. Remember; Damaged troops are weaker
and can inflict less damage than they could if they were fully
healed. After one Thunder, sic several troops on the enemy even if
their odds are low. The enemy won't attack with weakened troops,
preferring to heal them instead. One Tornado buys you a LOT of time
to regroup while the enemy heals.
From Freddie Nguyen:
Try VERY hard not to take the full eight units when recruiting, Very
rarely will you need all eight. Four is good, Two is even neater.
Consider going commando (with no troops at all) on most levels b/c
it's FASTER. No moving troops makes the game go lots faster.
My note: I have this weakness of buying lots of troops I never use as
well. This is a good point, you waste money and the game does go
slower as you have to move troops out of the way or spend turns
shuffling them around at times. You *can* beat the entire game
without ever hiring troops (though it will either take forever or you
will miss lots of XP).
A commander will use his troops before commiting himself to battle
(unless you stand next to him in which case you're expecting
trouble). So try to make a picket line between him and his troops so
they can't get to him (remenber no to touch him). he won't attack you
but his troops will. Cut them off so they can't heal. Cut them off
further away and they won't get the bonus.
Devious spell-draining:
Pick a commander (a Dragon knight if you have one), set all the
troops on "manual" and stash them out of the way. Fly solo touching
the sphere of influence of an enemy spellcaster (but inaccessible to
the troops; Over a high-wall, on a pillar, whatever so that no more
than one of the spellcaster's troops can get to you). The enemy will
attempt to blast the commander with a spell (and probably also attack
with troops if it can). Heal your next turn and keep doing that
until the commander is out of magic. Now return to your troops and
continue the game. A ranger with the cross or shield is also good
for this.
Formations:
A defense formation is:
TTT where the troops totally surround the commander, or try to
TCT get as close as possible. Troops will not attack.
TTT
Attack and Move formation is:
T
T T Like a diamond. In "attack", troops automatically
T C T attack enemies in the sphere of influence. In
T T 'Move' formation, troops will attack any enemies
T they move next to.
What's the point of the diamond? Since the enemy always targets
spells at the commander, Magic Arrows won't hurt the troops. Also,
if you are attacked, all the "healing" positions are still open to
move the damaged troops into and replace them with fresh ones.
You can also overlap two troop formations:
12 With the two commanders in the middle. Why?
1212 I have no idea. Move/Attack also prevents damaged
12CC12 troops from getting healed.
1212
12
In general, there aren't many benefits to Formation mode after the
enemy gets spells more powerful than Magic Arrows. There is one
benefit to 'Attack' though; troops in formation mode usually move
after Allied commanders and their troops. If you put your troops in
'Attack', they will attack after the Friendly troops have softened up
the enemy. Defense is a useful mode when you want to move a
commander over a long distance without any enemies.
In "formation" mode, the troops will often leave the positions you
set them in a turn earlier. This can be very annoying if you are
trying to block a passageway or keep troops away from water or
similar. It's usually a better idea to leave them on Manual and only
use Formations when you want to go a distance without enemies along
the way
For a much better defensive position when there's no terrain
advantage, consider using a "Picket Line Defense"; have the troops
just stand in a line. Only the troops at the ends of the line can
be attacked by more than one enemy unit. (From Freddie Nguyen).
My note: There are very few times when the enemy can destroy your troop
units with only one of their units. You can form a picket line with
your "softening-up" troops, let the enemy attack you, then rotate out
the damaged troops and kill the heavily weakened enemies with the commander
who needs XP. Then you can move fresh picket troops up to cover the troops
from the weaker commander. This works best when you can block a passageway.
Terrain, Movement and Defense [QFM]
Each square on the scenario map has several properties that are
important to the game. One is the "movement cost". Each commander
and troop type has a set number of Movement points each turn. To
move over a square, you subtract its Movement cost from the points
you have available. This makes moving over mountains and water
difficult (mermen have the special ability to move through water, and
flying troops treat all terrain as plains).
Some squares are impossible for ground-based troops to move onto.
These include the white mountain peaks, and High castle walls.
The other property of each tile is Defense adjustment. This is a
special bonus added to the DF stat of troops or commanders that end their
turn in that square. Troops stationed on a castle wall have a better
defense adjustment than troops stationed in plains. If the DF bonus is
40% and the unit's DF is 14, they will have an effective DF of 19. Some
troops have additional bonuses that add to the base terrain bonus.
When you move troops and commanders, it's usually a good idea to
position them to take advantage of the terrain, rather than to
use the default formation and move your maximum limit each turn.
Your best position is one that offers you a good defense bonus,
while forcing enemies to attack you from a weaker position. A
Forest tile surrounded by four plains tiles is good. If you are
fighting water-based enemies (who get a large bonus when they
fight in the water), set all your troops in positions that force
the enemy to come on land to attack you.
An "X" in the chart means that the square cannot be moved onto using
that movement type. Each class has the potential to treat each
terrain differently, but there are 5 common movement types (there are
10 movement types total, but the other 5 apply to 1 or 2 monsters each;
I note the exceptions below, but for full details you can see my class
spreadsheet, listed at the end of the FAQ).
Terrain MV Usage by Defense
type Land Horse Monst Sea Air Bonus
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Plains/Cave 1 1 1 2 1 +10%
House 1 2 1 1 1 +10%
Road 1 1 1 1 1 + 0%
Bridge 1 1 1 2 1 + 0%
Forest 1 3 1 2 1 +20%
Low Wall 4 X X 4 1 +40%
Rubble 3 4 3 2 1 +15%
High Wall X X X X 1 +40%
Mountain 2 3 3 3 1 +30%
Mountaintop X X X X 1 +40%
Water 3 3 3 1 1 + 0%
Deep Water 5 X 4 1 1 + 0%
Cast. Floor 1 2 1 2 1 +10%
Note: A throne is a low wall, many impassable objects that appear
to be decorative count as High Wall. Look at the icon that appears
when you move over the square.
You will also note that although Horsemen have 2 extra movement points vs.
soldiers, they lose it in penalties when crossing any non-flat terrain type.
Any class that is riding a horse (and Horsemen) uses the 'Horse' movement
type, most other classes (besides swimming and flying ones) use the Land
movement type.
Grand Knights, Golems, Skeletons and dinosaur-looking classes use the
Monster movement type.
Ants move as horsemen, except with even worse penalties.
Kraken (commanders) and Lizardmen are swimmers, but have no penalties for
moving on land.
Experience [QFE]
There are no optional or repeatable missions in this game (unless you use
the cheats to warp backward). Therefore, the amount of experience available
for leveling is limited. If you want to get all your commanders to their
highest class (and especially if you want two Saints), you will need to be
careful not to waste experience, and do your best to prioritize who gets it.
If you kill a commander, any remaining troops of theirs will also die. They
will add to your gold total, but NOT give any experience. Try to avoid this.
These would be my personal priorities:
1. Get Garett to Grand Knight (or King)
2. Get Sabra to Dragon Knight
3. Get Mina and Calais to Saint
4. Promote the rest to their final class
5. Get Mina and Calais to Lv.5 (for better magic)
6. Get others to Lv.5
Once Garett is a GK/King, he can buy archers to help promote the others.
Baldarov should also stick to archers. Once any character gets to their
highest class they also be used to soften up enemies.
Archers are great for helping other commanders. They usually miss at least
one shot, leaving the enemy at severely low health. Then the weaker troops
from another commander can mop them up.
A couple high damage spells, such as Tornado + Fireball can do the same
thing.
Commanders give more experience than troops do (about three times as
much), Royal soldiers give about double what the average troop does.
It would be painful to micro-manage every kill. As long as you have an
experience strategy in mind and stick to it, you'll probably get there.
Avoid killing commanders before their troops are all dead, intercept the
monsters on the missions where they try to fight the enemy.
Since commanders give so much experience, it's worth it to save them
for the person you are trying to promote. However, that person may not be
close by when another commander has destroyed all the regular troops.
To save an enemy leader for one of your people, surround him with
four of your troops (ideally with their commander right next to two
of them, like so:
T T - Your troops, E - Enemy commander
TET C - Troop commander
CT
This "traps" the enemy. Every turn, the enemy will attack one of the
troops, swap out the troop he damaged for a fresh one and let the
damaged one heal next to it's commander. This gives you time to heal
the commander you want to get the experience, or bring a far-away
commander to the enemy without the enemy getting away.
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WALKTHROUGH [QFW]
On several levels, more enemies show up as reinforcements on a
certain turn (on some levels, they show up after being "triggered").
When they appear, the commander will always try to appear in the same
place, with the troops distributed roughly around it in a defense
formation. If the commander cannot appear in the same place (like,
if you have your own troops there) it will try to appear as close as
possible. Troops will try to appear as close as possible within the
sphere of influence, if there are not enough spaces, however, the
troops that cannot appear close by will appear randomly on the entire
map. This means that if you can fill up the entire sphere of
influence of an incoming commander (but not the commander's actual
appearance spot) their troops will be scattered throughout the map,
out of range...
When a strategy calls for a commander to go "commando", that means to
place them without troops.
Scenario 1 - Save Garett
Object: Save Garett by moving to the edge of the battlefield
Commanders: Garett, Baldarov
Placement: Place Garett and Baldarov
Allies: Tiberon, Calais, Sabra, Alfador
Clear Bonus: 1000g (+650g max killing score)
Enemies:
Serpent Knight/8 Lizard men
Bishop/4 Elementals
Lord/8 Dark Elves
Lord/5 Soldiers
Tips:
The easy way to complete this mission is to run away like they tell you to
do. You can get to the top of the map in about 2 turns. However, this
strategy wastes a huge ton of experience.
If you're feeling more adventurous, try this: Give Baldarov one or two
horsemen, then Garett as many soldiers as possible. Head left to help
Tiberon with the archers, finishing off weakened troops with Garett's
soldiers. Baldarov can't help much with his horsemen yet, but when the
commander is dead, you can both go south to help out Calais.
Sabra will probably die (she'll be back). If Tiberon or Calais die, it's
also not a big deal. Hopefully they'll last long enough to do some damage
to the enemy commanders so you get to kill them. With luck, they'll also
gain some experience. I've seen Calais get to Lv9 on this scenario.
When the mage gets to the king with his elementals, sit tight. Garett's
dad is a King (with a high defense), sitting on a throne (with a huge bonus
to defense). He'll barely take damage from elementals. Get as close as
you can without touching the mage's green sphere of influence and wait.
As soon as you can attack the mage on two sides, go in with Garett and
his soldiers. The mage is weak to physical attacks.
You'll win, and they'll say something about going for reinforcements
and you'll leave anyway.
Scenario 2 - Protect Mina
Object: Defeat all the enemies, or get Mina to the castle.
Commanders: Garett, Baldarov
Placement: Place Garett and Baldarov
Allies: Mina
Clear Bonus: 500 (+1020g max killing score)
Enemies:
Shaman/6 Barbarians (x4)
Shaman/4 Barbarians
Shaman/6 Barbarians (on turn 13)
Tips: (revised, thanks to Andrew Luxmore) Get Archers for Baldarov.
If you give him horsemen, they will almost always completely
slaughter the enemy (a horseman with 1hp can destroy a full company
of 10 barbarians, if the horsemen is in range). Archers will usually
miss one or two shots, and they will still be almost immune to the
barbarians attacks. Make a defensive spread of archers for the
barbarians to slaughter themselves on during the enemy's turn, then
on your turn move in Garett's troops to clean up. Mina has a habit
of moving out from behind your protective shield and close to the
enemy. If you know where she'll try to move to, you can block the
spot to prevent it- you'll need to block several spots to prevent her
from moving at all. She will try to move about every other turn. On
turns where she doesn't move, she will heal a commander at 6 HP or less
within range of her Heal1. If you feed all the experience to Garett (and
had not wimped out of Scenario 1), he can make Lv4 of the next class on
this level. If you cheat and warp back, a second run through can make
him advance to his highest class, either Grand Knight or King.
Scenario 3 - Save Mina again.
Object: Defeat all the enemies
Commanders: Garett, Baldarov
Placement: You cannot control placement on this level
Allies: Mina, Thorne
Clear Bonus: 750 (+980g max killing score)
Enemies:
Shaman/8 Barbarians
Shaman/6 Barbarians
Shaman/4 Barbarians (x2)
Shaman/2 Barbarians (x3)
Tips: Not that tough, remember it doesn't matter if other commanders
get killed when they're not under your control. Be an experience
pig! Sabra joins and you win the 'Great Sword' after this level.
If Garett was promoted on the 2nd scenario, then I'd give Baldarov no more
than 2 archers, and Garett 6 horsemen or 8 archers (depending on what he's
promoted to). If Garett has not been promoted, then give him 8 soldiers
and maybe 4-6 archers for Baldarov to use for softening-up.
It is possible to get Garett to his final class here. He has to
have gotten to Lv4 of his 2nd class on the previous scenario, and must
kill nearly everything on this level. Thorne can't kill more than 4
troops + 1 commander, with all the rest of the experience going to
Garett.
Scenario 4 - Gesundheit!
Object: Survive long enough for reinforcements to show up
Commanders: Garett, Baldarov, Sabra
Placement: Place Garett, Baldarov and Sabra
Allies: Mina, Thorne (turn 5)
Clear Bonus: 800 (+410 max killing score)
Enemies:
Great Slime/8 Slimes (x2)
Great Slime/6 Slimes (x2)
Great Slime/4 Slimes
Tips: Unless you already have a Grand Knight or King (unlikely,
unless you went all-out on Scen 3), don't bother bringing troops
since they can't hurt the slimes. Head as far left as possible,
then position your characters in nice defensive spots (like in a forest
with clear plains all around it). Sit around and beat up the enemies
with commanders alone. Mina and Thorne show up to "save" you on turn 5.
You win if you're still around on turn 10. Mina and Thorne join
after you win this level. You also get the Cross item. Alternative
strategy, courtesy Andrew Luxmore, is to get 4 archers for baldarov
and 8 horsemen for Garett (if he is a Knight). I have never killed
all the slimes without cheating (warping back here with a Grand
Knight or King). To max out on experience for Mina, head as far left
as you can so that she won't have to run to you when she shows up.
Scenario 5 - Lance, round 1
Object: Defeat Lance!
Commanders: Garett, Baldarov, Sabra, Mina, Thorne
Placement: Place Garett, Baldarov, Sabra, Mina and Thorne
Clear Bonus: 800 (+900 max killing score)
Enemies:
Lance (Royal Guard)/8 Horsemen
Fighter/8 Soldiers
Fighter/8 Dark Elves
Knight/ 8 Horsemen (x2)
Tips: (revised, thanks to Andrew Luxmore, Freddie Nguyen). The enemy
troops come in a good variety on this level, and they'll certainly try
to explot type weaknesses.
Even so, you don't need a lot of troops to win this level. If you
are low on funds, you can get by with just your commanders. Keep them
clustered together, go up the middle path to the choke point where only
a couple enemies can attack and rotate out damaged commanders. It will
work, it will just be very slow.
I would recommend that you focus instead on promoting Garett and Sabra.
If Garett is going the GK route, I'd definitely focus on him since you
will be losing access to Baldarov's archers after this level, and having
someone else to fill his role would be very useful.
Buy 4-5 archers for whoever will be used to help promote the chosen ones,
give the chosen commanders about 6-8 troops TOTAL (so if Garett is almost
to level 10, give him only 2 with Sabra getting 4-6. If Garett has a ways
to go, give him all 6 and Sabra 2). Don't bother with troops for Mina
or Thorne.
Charge up the middle path between the mountains with Baldarov (or whoever
is softening up the enemies for the chosen ones), with the chosen ones
behind them. Bring Mina along, but keep her in the back so she can cast
Healing 1 whenever you have a bunch of hurt troops. Then expose a line of
archers for the enemy to attack, let them attack and get heavily damaged,
mop up with the chosen ones' troops (then cover those troops with fresh
troops or more archers), heal up, rinse, repeat.
If you do it this way, the commander on the far right (and possibly also
Lance) will get stuck. When the other commanders are dead, run over to
the right to take out the stuck commander, then finish off Lance last.
Baldarov dies. You can't prevent this. Hopefully your replacement enemy
softener is already ready. If Sabra got some experience on level 1 and
the slime level, she can make Lv6 of her second class (Lord, hopefully)
here by taking out nearly all the enemies.
Scenario 6 - You can't go home again.
Object: Defeat Geryon
Commanders: Garett, Sabra, Mina, Thorne
Placement: Place Garett, Sabra, Mina and Thorne
Clear Score: 1000 (+860 max killing score)
Enemies:
Geryon (Lord)/2 Royal soldiers
Knight/6 Horsemen (x2)
Fighter/8 Soldiers (x2)
Fighter/6 Dark Elves
Tips:
You're back at Baltia castle, where it all started. The enemies have
thoughtfully beefed up the castle defenses so you can't just climb over
the walls and rubble. They've also put up a smart defense, using horsemen,
archers & soldiers in just the right order. When you bring in archers to
attack the horsemen, the guys with soldiers will come out to defend. If
you stomp the soldiers with horsemen, then the commander with archers will
be 2 steps behind them. Additionally, the game forces you to divide up
your commanders. Of the 4 commanders, up to 3 can start out on one side.
All-in-all, this is a tough scenario.
You can try to mount two serious attacks. A fully-promoted commander could
start alone on one side and try to take out the horsemen and soldiers. A
Lord with Archers can also solo one side, if you're careful about sticking
to the walls (in that case, give them the full 8 archers) Or, you could
hedge your bets and put two commanders per side. If whoever is closest to
the bridge has archers, they can hopefully wipe out the horsemen and fall
back behind cover of your own horsemen or soldiers.
I'd recommend giving up on one side. Place a commander you can do without
for a while on that side. Give them no troops, or perhaps 1-2 archers if
they can buy them. Place them as close to the top of the map as you can,
and then just have them run around the top of the map to the other side where
all your other commanders are. They will be chased by the commander with
horsemen.
For your other commanders, decide who needs to the experience. Give them 6
to 8 troops; preferably archers or horsemen. A Lord's archers are pretty
tough, they can wipe out a horseman unit easily. If you get them up onto
the walls and force the enemy to attack from below, they can also hold their
own against soldiers and other archers. If you don't have a Lord or anyone
to soften up enemies on that side, give 2-4 troops to the other commanders.
Go on the offensive, stick to the high walls. Mina's Healing 1 can help out
if you have a bunch of lightly damaged troops.
If Sabra's starts out at Lv4 of Lord, there is enough experience here to
get her to Dragon Knight.
Alternate strategy (from Freddie Nguyen):
Put Garret (commando) on the left, the rest on the right (troops or
no, doesn't matter). Now take DEFENSIVE positions OUTSIDE the
castle. Yup outside. On the right against the scenario wall is a
good block for Garret to sit on. A hill block bordered by another
hill, water and a plain. great defensive spot. Now that you have
taken your defensive positions, sit and wait. The enemy will rush
out of the castle to fight you. ideally 3 to the right, two to the
left. Garret CAN take on two whole units if he's a Lord (or if
you've been pumping him, a King!) Once the five enemy commanders
have died, invade the castle. All that's left is Geryon and his
royal soldiers. Take out the royal soldiers and Geryon will step off
his throne to kill you. Fool. He's just given up a great defensive
spot. Now waste him.
Scenario 7 - Lance, round 2
Object: Save Bayard (kill Momus)
Commanders: Garett, Sabra, Mina, Thorne, Calias, Tiberon
Placement: Place up to 6 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1000 (+1235 max killing score)
Enemies:
Momus (Fighter)/8 Dark Elves(x2)
Serpent Knight/8 Lizard men (x2)
Fighter/8 Soldiers
Knight/6 Horsemen
Lance (Royal Guard)/6 Horsemen (3 turns after you cross the bridge)
Knight/6 Horsemen (3 turns after you cross the bridge)
Tips: Bayard is outnumbered 2 to 1, BUT he has a troop advantage
(soldiers vs. enemy archers) AND a defensible position (castle
walls). He can usually hold out at least 10 turns, but sometimes
he'll get unlucky and take major damage to his troops, or send his
troops on suicide missions. You should definitely keep moving through
this level and not waiting for the enemy to come to you.
A few turns after you cross the bridge, Lance will show up with some
reinforcements for the enemy (a bunch of horsemen). If you're quick, you
can kill Momus before Lance shows up. This will deprive you of a good
chunk of experience and about 350 gold though.
My strategy would be to give Calais 8 guardsmen. She'll be fighting the
lizardmen on the left. Lizardmen have such weak defense on land that
the guardsmen and lizardmen will just kill each other evenly. If you
cast a spell so that the lizardmen are lowered to 8 HP or take advantage
of the terrain (make them fight you from the plains while you're in the
forest), you can tip the scales slightly so your guardsmen will survive
with 1-2hp while killing the lizards. Calais can't kill the commander
though, so she'll need Tiberon, Sabra or Thorne to help. I'd give Calais
the shield in case she gets directly attacked. It doesn't help her much,
but she needs all the defense she can get.
Team 2 would be someone you want to get experience for. Ideally, they
should have 8 Monks or Archers. Another commander can go along with
her, to soften up the enemy. They should also have archers. Run along
the middle of the bridge, don't let any troops stop on the far right
side touching the water. Just keep running to the top each turn. The
lizardmen will come up on the bridge and slaughter themselves on your
archers/monks. The horseman commander will come down and do the same.
Cross the bridge as quickly as you can and run for Bayard. Odds are, he'll
either be dying or just running out of troops. Help him as much as you
can, but avoid killing or letting him kill Momus until Lance shows up.
After you've sent Lance home on a stretcher, finish off Momus.
Avoid letting Tiberon do much on this level. He's useful as Croc Knight
until Scenario 9. It is possible for Bayard to get to Lv10 if he kills
all the troops at his castle and the two commanders. You'll get to choose
his advanced class if he does.
Supplemental strategy (from Freddie Nguyen):
Put Garret far right with archers. RUN over the bridge, You'll
meet horseman who'll get slaughtered by the archers. Get Tiberon
with mermen on the far left. Circle round the lizard men and target
the soldiers on the other side. Keep them occupied and Garret can
get to Anzel by Turn 7!! Lance shows up at Turn 14 [I've seen him as
soon as turn 10, so I think it's a few turns after you get acroos
the bridge] so you have time to mess around with Momus before taking
defensive positions in Anzel. That's right. Put Garret on the broken wall
and his archers on the walls. Remember archers slaughter horseman :)
Scenario 8 - Lance, round 3
Object: Kill the commanders that are running away.
Commanders: Garett, Sabra, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tiberon, Bayard
Placement: Place up to 7 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1200 (+1090 max killing score)
Enemies:
Chief Commander (Lord)/2 Royal Soldiers
Fighter/8 Dark Elves (x2)
Fighter/8 Soldiers (x2)
Lance (Royal Guard)/6 Horsemen (Turn 5)
Knight/6 Horsemen (Turn 5)
Tips: The enemy is retreating? That's precious experience running away!
Normally, you don't need to get all 8 troops for a commander. In this
case though, I recommend it. There's a ton of soldiers to get through,
and a bunch of archers behind them. The soldiers will try to delay you
while the archers and the Chief Commander run for the top of the screen.
Guardsmen are pretty useless here. If you have a Lord, take a bunch of
archers (I'd give them all 8) over to the road in the bottom left of the
map. They'll be a nasty surprise for Lance when he shows up.
Monks and Soldiers do well against the enemy. If you have some offense
spells (Fireball or Thunder), they will do tons of damage to all
the packed enemies and make it easy to finish them off with troops.
If you can't easily kill an enemy unit on one turn, position your troops
in defensive spots and let them attack you on their turn instead. Then
your counterattack can finish them off.
To keep the enemy commander from getting away, it would be good to send
someone after him to try to hurt him. The commanders who can catch up
to him the fastest (Dragon Knight Sabra or Croc Knight Tiberon) will get
seriously hurt by the archers. GK or King Garett + some archers is a
safe bet. Attack the enemy commander to lower him below 7HP, he'll be
forced to heal the next turn instead of running.
Lance appears on Turn 5, in the bottom left. He has a bunch of horsemen
with him. To max out the experience on this level you'll probably have
to delay the boss a few turns so you can have time to finish off Lance.
Scenario 9 - Time to get Kraken (Lance, round 4)
Object: Defeat the enemy commander, OR Garett to top row
Commanders: Garett, Sabra, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tiberon, Bayard
Placement: Place up to 7 commanders
Clear Score: 1200 (+1390 max killing score)
Enemies:
Serpent Knight/8 Lizard men
Grand Knight/8 Soldiers
Fighter/8 Soldiers (x2)
Fighter/8 Dark Elves
Kraken/8 Leviathans (x2) (Turn 6)
Lance/8 Horsemen (Turn 7)
Tips:
If you do nothing but sit tight on your side of the river, the serpent
knight will come straight down to attack the commander below him. The
archer unit and two soldier units will slowly attempt to cross the river,
going about 1-2 squares per turn. On turn 6, the Kraken will appear and
head for the nearest commanders. These would be the enemy soldiers in
the water. There will be a big fight with heavy losses, the Kraken will
probably win and come after you with whatever is left.
Since that is a terrible waste of experience, I'd recommend diverting the
Kraken down to you so you get to kill the soldiers, archers and both sets
of Leviathans. My strategy would be to pick two tough commanders to be
bait. They don't need any troops unless you think they can't survive
without them. One goes up on the left peninsula and waits. The other
goes right, out in the water off the right peninsula.
If Tiberon is still a croc knight, this is his moment to shine. Load up
with 6-8 mermen. Start as far right as you can and swim across the water
to fight the soldier unit that is trying to cross the water. Keep the
battle close to their shore. Their soldiers can move at most 2 water
squares per turn. Position mermen so that 1 soldier unit can get to
a full 10hp mermen on their turn. They will attack and die, leaving your
mermen at low health. Rotate those into healing positions and replace
with fresh mermen. It is a little slow, but you can probably wipe out
the GK and Fighter's units without them getting very far into the water.
This should get Tiberon to Lv9. He can lure Lance's horsemen into the
water later to get to Lv10, but I'd fall back and wait to do that till
the end of the level. If you promote him to Knight (highly recommended)
then you want to be close to land when he changes.
Pick two other comamnders you want to gain experience. Give them the
max of their best troops. If you have some fully-promoted commanders,
besides Dragon Knight Sabra, get them 6-8 troops (total, between them) to
use for softening up the enemy. DK Sabra doesn't need troops, but is
great for damaging high-defense commanders like the Serpent Knight, or
luring the Kraken back to your commanders.
On Turn 6, the Kraken will appear. Save. Hopefully they will head for
the two bait commanders (reset if not). Lead them down toward your side
and away from the enemy. Bring them to your waiting commanders. Monks
and Archers will shred Leviathans that are on land. Guardsmen can also
kill them (but will take heavy losses, so soften up the enemy with other
troops/spells first).
In my last game, the serpent knight was dead early on. The lizardmen
can be killed with Guardsmen, but the Serpent Knight himself has quite
high defense and you'll need to gang up on him with high-AT units to
bring him down. The left-side soldier, archers and leviathan all got
to my commanders at about the same time. They will attack each other,
so do your best to get in the middle and make them attack you instead.
Run up when you're done and finish off Lance. Ideally, you can promote
Tiberon to Knight. I also got Mina to Saint and Calais to Priestess on
this level.
Thanks, Andrew Luxmore & Freddie Nguyen for suggesting Guardsmen and
Archers against the Lizardmen and Leviathans.
Scenario 10 - Castle Crashers
Object: Defeat the Chief Commander
Commanders: Garett, Sabra, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tiberon, Bayard
Placement: Place up to 7 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1200 (+1350 max killing score)
Enemies:
Chief Commander (Lord)/4 Royal Soldiers
Serpent Knight/8 Lizard men (x2)
Bishop/8 Dark Elves
Arch Mage/8 Soldiers
Fighter/8 Soldiers
Grand Knight/6 Archers (Turn 10)
Grand Knight/8 Horsemen (Turn 10)
Tips: If Sabra is a dragon knight, this is a great scenario to practice
Devious Spell Draining to eat the spells of the Archmage and bishop.
Give her the shield to raise her defense past where the archers can
really hurt her. Reinforcements (NOT Lance for once) show up on
turn 10, from the left as well as the bottom. Save a commander or
two to deal with them. The commander on the left arrives with
archers, the commander on the bottom arrives with soldiers.
Carleon joins after this level, and you get the Wand.
Choose 1 or 2 commanders you want to gain experience and give them
8-12 troops (if you only care about one commander, just get 8, otherwise
6 apiece). As always, 4-6 archers are great for anyone who is fully
promoted and can help soften up the enemy. Horsemen are not that useful
here. A Knight doesn't give them enough of a defense bonus to make them
survivable against most of the soldiers, and any other class can use
archers. Guardsmen do OK against the lizardmen, as usual, but you'll
have to protect them from the soldiers.
Supplemental strategy (from Freddie Nguyen):
Go commando. Set up two picket lines to face the lizardman. Let
Garret be your apex man. He should be a tough King by now. A
horizontal Line of 3 commanders, Garret then go down 3 commanders.
Leave space for the lizardmen to be disadvantaged. Once again, the
pitiful AI will charge out of the castle to get you, except for the
Archer Commander and the Chief. Charge in once you're done outside.
Scenario 11 - Lance, round 5
Object: Garett to Center well
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tib, Bayard, Carleon
Placement: Place up to 8 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1400 (+1850 max killing score)
Enemies:
Arch Mage/8 Dark Elves
Grand Knight/8 Soldiers (x4)
Lance/8 Horsemen (Turn 5)
Wyvern/8 Gargoyles (x2) (Turn 7)
Tips: If you don't move toward the center of the castle, the flying
monsters will head straight for the archmage and all get slaughtered
by the archmage's spells. Don't let that happen! Charge for the
top/bottom-center wals so they come after you instead and you get the
experience. Lance (here we go again) shows up in the bottom-left on turn
5. The Wyverns show up at the top and bottom center on turn 7. Put
commanders with horsemen closest to the center when you start,
backed up by commanders with archers behind them. Try to have at
least one archer company on the top and bottom to deal with the
wyverns (and Lance). Sabra can hide in the right-most stair room
under the pillar (touching the archmage's sphere of influence) to
absorb the spells. The Wyverns can cast Fireball, so be ready.
From Andrew Luxmore: Carleon can take out Lance if he is backed up
by a Grand Knight Garett.
Supplemental strategy (from Freddie Nguyen):
Put a Lord in each corner with some archers. (Garret counts as one
of these) Don't let the archers fight the soldiers but bring them
onto some walls before the wyverns reach the dark elves.
Scenario 12 - Warsong! Ambush!
Object: Pulverize Pythion
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tib, Bayard, Carleon
Placement: You cannot control placement on this level
Clear Bonus: 1400 (+2050 max killing score)
Enemies:
Pythion (Kaiser)/8 Royal Soldiers
Lord/6 Royal Soldiers
Arch Mage/8 Soldiers
Bishop/8 Dark Elves
Wizard/8 Dark Elves
Grand Knight/8 Soldiers (x3)
Tips: Well, it looks like your brilliant idea of splitting up and taking
both sets of stairs has walked you into an ambush. The enemy has
surrounded half your forces, which are cut off from the other half by a
second group of enemies. Additionally, the enemy has tried to match up
your commanders with troops they are weak against.
Garett, Mina, Tiberon and Bayard start on one side (the left side).
Tiberon, who is probably a Knight, is facing a squad of archers. Bayard
is facing soldiers. On the other side of the wall, Sabra is right next
to another squad of archers (bad news for Gryphons!). She starts near
Calais, Thorne and Carleon, who are all facing Soldiers.
Archers are disadvantaged here. They are still somewhat useful for
softening up the enemy soldiers, but will have a hard time killing anything
unless it is at 6 or less. They are great against the two enemy
spellcasting commanders though. Horsemen are useful if you have a fully
promoted commander, but otherwise they don't do much better than soldiers.
They will also have a hard time getting anywhere on this level, which is
all "indoors". Monks are great for softening up enemies, and can finish
off troops that have been weakened.
Sabra's side will have the toughest job. I gave Sabra no troops and flew
her as far to the left as possible on her turn (over a wall). The Arch
Mage next to her spent the next 4 turns launching fireballs and attacking
with soldiers. The damage was easily treatable, and this kept the mage's
troops out of the bigger fight going on. I got the full 8 troops for Thorne
and Carleon, both of whom needed experience. Calais got 6 monks, and ran
straight south to assist Thorne and Carleon.
Tiberon's horsemen aren't very useful. The wizard's archers on his side will
completely murder horsemen, and the GK on his side has some nasty bonuses to
attack that cancel out the weak +2 DF horsemen get for fighting soldiers.
They also have movement penalties over the whole map. You could just skip
giving him troops, or stick to soldiers if you want him to get XP. Give
Garett 6 archers and Bayard his full 8 soldiers. If Mina is a Saint, then
her Tornado + Garett's softening-up troops should be enough for Bayard to
mop up everything. If you don't have much for spells, then give her Monks
instead and focus on giving her the experience to promote her.
If you're having a hard time on the right side, you could give Sabra a
bunch of Gryphons, then kamikaze the Arch Mage, killing him on the first
turn, but wasting a chunk of experience.
From Andrew Luxmore: Archmage Calais can Earthquake the whole right
side and assist in keeping the commanders under 7hp (and not casting
spells). Switch Sabra with Carleon.
You'll collect Warsong (awww yeah!) and the Evil Axe on this level. Finally
some decent equipment!
Scenario 13 - Let's NOT get stoned...
Object: Defeat the basilisks
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tib, Bayard, Carleon
Allies: Lance/Gryphons (x8) - after stepping on the box
Placement: Place up to 7 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1400 (+1340 max killing score)
Enemies:
Basilisk/6 Styracosaurs
Basilisk/4 Styracosaurs (x2)
Great Slime/8 Slimes (x2)
Queen Ant/8 Evil Ants (x2)
Tips: If none of your commanders has died, one of them will have to sit
this level out. As it turns out, the enemy troops all have a somewhat
high defense; not a problem for your commanders attacking directly, but
any troops will get wiped out. I'd suggest leaving all troops behind.
If you thought the last level was a bit unfair, then you'll really love
this level. The enemy basilisks have a wacky 0MP spell that can turn
your commander to stone. They'll be spamming that sucker at every
opportunity. If Garett gets stoned it's game over. If anyone else is
stoned, they won't be attacked by the enemy but they can't take any
actions. You'll have to step on the magic box of buzzkill in the top part
of the map to un-stone them (and then nobody else can be stoned).
Stepping on the box will also free Lance, who will immediately fly down
with his pack of gryphons and try to steal as much XP as he can.
Unlike most spellcasters, the basilisks will cast the spell even if you
aren't touching their sphere of influence. Since they are all higher
than lv6, they can cast their spell 6 squares away. It also will hit
neighboring squares. Always keep this in mind during this level. The
only way to prevent them casting the spell is to be out of that range, or
to lower them to 7HP or less so they'll treat instead.
Since they're so dangerous, I would advise against trying to extract all
the XP on this level, and just try to take out the basilisk commanders.
You will need high offense to be able to hurt them. Only the Queen ants
(the ant commanders) and Great Slimes (slime commanders) have a ranged
attack on this level. That means that you can give the Evil Axe to a
weaker commander and they can hopefully kill most enemies before they
can close the distance. It's still a little risky. I didn't use it.
Knight Tiberon can slaughter any slimes or ants that attack him; he'll
make good use of a defensive item. If someone fireballs the enemy and Tib
has a nice defensive spot, he can probably wipe them all out when they
attack him.
Dragon Knight Sabra is your panic button here. She can wait a turn or two,
then fly straight north to sit next to the magic box. If you start flying
there on the first turn, the slimes in the north will chase her. If you
wait, you can have her fly past them and send another commander up to meet
the slimes to bring them down to the rest of your commanders. If someone
gets stoned and you want to fix it, Sabra can step on the box.
Lance joins after this level. He's maxed out on experience and he'll bail
on you before the final scenarios. You also get the Amulet. The Amulet
super-sizes the sphere of influence. It doesn't boost your bonuses, but
your troops can be twice the distance away.
Scenario 14 - 487 Werewolves
Object: Save a town from wolves
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Cal, Tib, Bay, Car, Lance
Placement: Place up to 6 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1500 (+1530 max killing score)
Enemies:
1 Were Wolf
Were Wolf/8 Were Wolves (x6) (After you defeat the loner)
Tips: Three of your commanders will have to sit this one out. Also, the
werewolves are pretty strong. They all have a 21 DF and the troops have a
murdertacular 31 AT. If you're trying to get experience for someone not
fully promoted, their troops will not be very effective. They will have
to let another commander's troops take the attack on the enemy's turn, then
jump in to finish off nearly dead wolves.
The best troops are archers or monks with a high attack bonus. GK, KM,
Saint or Arch Mage basically. 3 groups of were wolves will appear on
each side of the city. The top-right werewolf will head for the top-right
civilians. The bottom-left werewolf will stay in their starting spot if
you don't come out of the city on the left.
The civilians are supposed to run to the center building, but may get
bugged and stay in their starting positions for the whole scenario. You
will have to send someone north on the right side to try to intercept the
wolves who go for the top bunch of civilians.
You can try this without troops. Have your heroes take shelter in the
buildings and let the werewolves come to you. Rotate out damaged leaders,
and use spells to lower the wolf troops down to 8 points. You lose the
civilians this way, but it is easier to win.
- (Thanks Abacrombie)
Alternate strategy (from Freddie Nguyen):
The civilians WILL move towards the very center building and hide
there. half of your commanders defending the doorway will nicely
stop off the werewolves. Pick another building somewhere for the
other half of your commanders.
Scenario 15 - Killer pot
Object: Save the town from the great dragon.
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Cal, Tib, Bay, Car, Lance
Allies: Fire Element (after defeating the shaman)
Placement: Place up to 4 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1500 (+1340 max killing score)
Enemies:
Great Dragon
Gorgosaur/6 Styracosaurs (x2)
Shaman/8 Barbarians
Tips: Again we continue the trend of making you leave commanders behind.
You can only bring 4 this time (don't worry, this is the last level
where your commanders have to sit it out). 5 of your commanders will
be warming the bench this time. You must take Garett, as always. I'd
also recommend taking Dragon Knight Sabra (or Lance, if Sabra is not a
DK). The main enemy here is Styracs, and they have a nasty 24 DF, even
harder than the werewolves from the last level.
A Saint + Monks would be useful here. The high offense bonus, plus
Tornado would be great. The Gorgosaurs can't turn you to stone, but they
aren't shy about chucking fireballs at you. Each one has 3 fireballs, and
the Dragon will also cast a special fireball that goes out 4 squares
(twice as far as most fireballs).
The Great Dragon itself is a special problem. With 35/35 stats, only the
Ranger class can hurt him without a boost. A fully promoted Garett + the
Evil Axe can do it, as well as a Dragon Knight/Knight Master with Warsong
(or the Axe). It is still vulnerable to spells, but with only 4
commanders you can't really unload on it.
You have an ace in the hole, however. If you run (preferably fly)
straight north, you'll see a shaman and a bunch of barbarians. If you
kill the shaman, you'll get a temporary ally: A genie with 41/34 stats.
He'll help you stomp the dragon. If you want to give it a try on your
own first, you can send Sabra up there, wipe out the barbarians and leave
the Shaman alone. Whenever you need the Genie, whack the Shaman and the
Genie will teleport down to the dragon. Don't assume the barbarians will
be pushovers- Gryphons have such a miserable defense that they die pretty
much 1 to 1 with barbarians. Sabra can sit on a post and let them attack
her first.
Your "allies" are 3 fighters with 8 civilians each. On turn 2, the top and
middle one will start running for the city. On turn 6, the bottom one will
also realize that's a good idea.
Scenario 16 - Revenge of the Guardsmen
Object: Kill the dragon. Again.
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Cal, Tib, Bay, Car, Lance
Placement: Place up to 8 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1500 (+1980 max killing score)
Enemies:
Great Dragon/8 Styracosaurs
Gorgosaur/8 Carrion Crawlers (x2)
Queen Ant/8 Evil Ants (x3)
Great Slime/8 Slimes (x2)
Tips: One commander has to sit out, but I don't really think of Lance as one
of my commanders. I didn't invite him to any of the remaining scenarios.
They say the dragon is badly injured, but he seems fine to me. Its stats
are still 35/35 and now he has an army of styracs to defend him.
Start anyone with guardsmen on the left to waste the slimes. It's payback
for getting stomped on while they were clerics or warlocks. You don't need
more than 6 guardsmen total. Even out-of-range guardsmen can still wipe
out the slimes without getting hurt. Wait one turn before moving left of
where you start though; otherwise the queen ant in the bottom right will
come up with the slimes.
If you get the queen ant, the ants can easily kill guardsmen. Send you
guardsmen away, lower the ants health with spells, then let them attack
your commanders.
Nobody else needs troops, but if you want to bring them, horsemen do OK.
You will be fighting the dragon again, and this time there is no genie to
bail you out. Instead, you have all 8 commanders and a chest with a sword
for whoever steps on it. The sword gives +5 AT/+3 DF and temporarily
replaces the item of whoever opened it. I'd give it to someone with a
high AT (GK Garett, KM Tiberon). When you get to the dragon, beat it up
with all your commanders. I had a bunch of spellcasters (magic knights
and saints), so hitting him with several thunders, tornados and blizzards
will make quick work of the styracs and lower the dragon down to where it
can be killed by a commander with good equipment.
I'd give someone with high AT the Evil Axe as insurance. Sabra or Garett
can make use of it, since you can keep them out of combat unless you need
them. Give the sword to someone else with high AT if it will help them
get over 35. Give yourself some options.
Sabra can help a lot by flying along the cave walls down to the Gorgosaurs
and letting them use up their fireballs on her. Then she can do the same
to the dragon. If she's not a DK, then Lance can do it.
The sword disappears at the end of the battle.
Scenario 17 - Dinosaur Duck Hunt
Object: Kill everything in sight
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Cal, Tib, Bay, Car, Lance
Placement: Place up to 8 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1600 (+2880 max killing score)
Enemies:
Gorgosaur/8 Styracosaurs (x2)
Wyvern/8 Gargoyles (x6)
Tips: 3 sets of flying enemies will fly down each side. They will arrive one
turn after each other. The flyers are all weak to archers, even
out-of-range archers can do a lot of damage to them. One magic knight with
6-8 archers could easily handle all the flyers on one side. Set up in a nice
spot with your archers in defensive positions, make sure that you are not
touching the incoming wyvern's sphere (so that it won't fireball you), then
let them fly in and attack. They won't manage to kill anything, but will
have a few nearly-dead units. Thunder the rest (hopefully taking the wyvern
to 7hp or less), rotate out the hurt archers and wait. Next turn they'll
attack with a bunch of injured gargoyles against your full-strength archers
and wipe themselves out. Rinse, repeat.
Part 2 of the stage will be the Gorgosaurs. At least they're not basilisks.
The styracs have high defense, so make sure they don't get defense bonuses
on top of that. Make them fight you in the plains even if you can't get a
good defense bonus yourself. Otherwise your troops will barely hurt them.
Hopefully you still have some spells left. Archers aren't great against
styracs, but styracs weakened by some spells can be picked off by anyone.
They styracs usually strand 4 of their troops in the mountains. If you
want that XP, Sabra can fly up and get it. Beware of the gorgosaur
fireballs; they hit a large area. If you want to be done with this level
quickly, bring Lance. He and Sabra can start flying up to meet the
styracs on turn 6 (when the last of the wyverns is fighting your other
commanders)
Scenario 18 - Somebody call for an exterminator?
Object: Kill Naxos
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Cal, Tib, Bay, Car, Lance
Placement: Place up to 8 commanders
Clear Bonus: 1800 (+1480 max killing score)
Enemies:
Naxos (Conjurer)/8 Golems
Living Armor/8 Skeletons
Queen Ant/8 Evil Ants (x3)
Great Slime/8 Slimes (x3)
Tips: This is the last time you'll be seeing slimes. If someone with
guardsmen needs experience, 4 guardsmen should be enough to wipe out
the top two groups of slimes. You'll just need to protect the guardsmen
from the ants and skeletons that are in the way.
This is also the last time you'll get to use Lance. If Sabra is not a
DK, then bring Lance to eat Naxos' blizzard spells. If you want a cheap
and quick win, bring some gryphons. Naxos leaves himself open to attack
from the air, so you can kill him in 3 turns if you like.
You can also use an Earthquake early in the level to damage the wall,
then climb across it to fight Naxos and skip all the ants. I'm going to
assume you'll take the free XP and fight all the enemies.
There is one group of Skeletons that starts close to you. Monks will
trash these guys like archers murder gryphons. Monks also do OK on all
the rest of the enemies.
It looks like attacking Golems is pointless: they have 20 AT/42 DF, which
puts them out of range of everything but a ranger + attack item, or DK/KM
with the Evil Axe. However, somehow your horsemen can still do 1-2 damage
without getting hurt much. Your best bet is to save some spells on several
commanders for the end, then unload them all at once. Once you can get to
Naxos, he has pitiful stats. Out-of-range troops can kill him.
You get the Orb (halves MP cost for spells!) and lose Lance after this
battle. I'd call that a good trade.
Scenario 19 - Death to Mortimus
Object: Kill Mortimus
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tib, Bayard, Carleon
Placement: Place up to 8 commanders
Clear Bonus: 2000 (+1600 max killing score)
Enemies:
Mortimus (Sorceror)/8 Skeletons
Bishop/8 Dark Elves
Wizard/8 Dark Elves (x2)
Lord/8 Royal Soldiers (x2)
Fighter/8 Soldiers (x3)
Tips: You will have to circle around the enemy's castle. There are two ways
around, and if you have troops you should probably go both ways since they
are so narrow and congested. The enemy spellcasters will attempt to harass
you with fireballs and blizzards along the way, Mortimus will try to use
Confusion or Sleep to mess you up.
Soldiers do pretty well here. Monks are great against the final skeletons.
Horsemen are OK against the weak soldiers, but tend to lose against the
royal soldiers and skeletons unless they have a numerical advantage.
The spellcaster AI is fairly simple. They will head for the closest
commander (even though they are on the other side of the wall), then cast
their spells on you. Their spells do a fair amount of damage and hit a
wide area (especially the Bishop's powered-up dragon fireball). I would
suggest sending commanders solo to be spell-bait. Anyone can do it, though
Sabra is best at it. Just move so you are touching their sphere of
influence and make sure no other friendly troops are close. When the
spellcasters run out of spells they'll just wait around until you get
close to them inside the castle.
Scenario 20 - Chaos
Object: Kill Ganelon, then Chaos
Commanders: Gar, Sab, Mina, Thorne, Calais, Tib, Bayard, Carleon
Placement: Place up to 8 commanders
Clear Bonus: 2000 (+930 max killing score) -- not that it matters
Enemies:
Ganelon (Wight)/8 Styracosaurs
Living Armor/8 Skeletons (x6)
Chaos/8 Elementals (After you kill Ganelon)
Tips: There's tons of skeletons on this level, and monks rip through those
like there's a free prize inside. As an extra, monks also get bonuses
against Ganelon (he's got a 34 DF and is tough to hurt otherwise); they
can do 2-3 points of damage on him, even when he's sitting on his throne.
Give Warsong and the Great Sword to whoever you have to so that you can
have an AT higher than 35. You might also give out the Evil Axe. Chaos
is 35/35, the same as the great dragon. He's not immune to magic though.
Horsemen and horse commanders suffer movement penalties over the whole
level. Even with a +8 AT bonus from a GK/KM, they still can't hurt the
styracs. Archers with a high AT bonus can do OK against the skeletons,
and can also extinguish Chaos's elementals.
There are three groups of Living Armor/Skeletons on each side. If you have
two classes that can use monks, I would form a picket lines on each side
and let them come to you. DK Sabra can drain their blizzards. The top
two groups tend to get stuck and unable to get to you.
This is DK Sabra's shining moment. First, she can fly up to the probably-
stuck skeletons and lure them back down, soaking up their blizzards. Then
she can head for Ganelon and let him use up his VERY NASTY thunder spells.
On top of that, bring a bunch of Gryphons. Ganelon's styracs are boosted
to 30 AT/30 DF. Only Gryphons can hurt them, though other troops may get
lucky.
You'll most likely need to use some magic on Ganelon and finish off his
troops with Gryphons. After that, you only have to worry about Chaos.
Chaos's elementals are easily splattered by archers with a high AT bonus.
Most other troops can at least do even damage to them. Gryphons will still
get slaughtered though, so don't use them if you can help it. If you save
at least 1 spell on a bunch of commanders, you can defeat him that way
fairly easily.
For fun, you can trap Ganelon for a few turns and have everyone else
surround the central area in the empty north chamber. You could beat Chaos
without him ever getting a chance to move.
Enjoy the ending!
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CHARACTERS AND ADVANCEMENT PATHS [QFA]
Here are the hero characters in the game, along with their name in
Langrisser and their recommended advancement path (marked with *). Their
name in Langrisser is given in parentheses.
Garett (Ledin) - Your main hero. If you lose him, your game is over.
Garett is a decent fighter through most of the game (as a fighter
class, he also gets a few bonuses), but really shines as a Grand
Knight or King.
GK has better troop bonuses and personal attack. King has some weak
spells (Healing 1 & Arrows). King sounds cooler, though.
I recommend GK, but it's really your pick. (thanks, Andrew Luxmore)
Advancement:
Fighter -> *Knight or Lord
Lord -> King or Magic Knight
Knight -> Knight Master or *Grand Knight
Baldarov (Volkov) - Garett's bodyguard. Can't advance or gain exp.!
Plus, he dies later (this is not preventable.) His troops are
practically invincible though with his +9 to defense. Try to use
him as little as possible, and only for softening up the enemy (by
either attacking first, or letting the enemy come to his troops).
Advancement:
Sword Master
Mina (Kris) - A travelling cleric Garett meets on the road.
Mina and her troops are really weak until she becomes a Saint,
however, once she does then she'll really start toasting the
enemies. Feed her experience. (
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As a Cleric she has some large bonuses when she personally
attacks slimes, but loses this bonus when she promotes to any
other class.
Advancement:
Cleric -> Warlock or *Priestess
Priestess -> High Priestess or *Saint
Warlock -> Bishop or Wizard
Wizard -> (same as Calais)
Calais (Jessica) - The court mage of castle Baltia
Arch Mage sounds cool, but the spells aren't as useful as the Saint's. It
will take a lot more work to get to Saint though, and you'll be weak and
without good spells for your team until you get there.
If for some reason you want Calais to become a Bishop, she can advance
to Cleric (taking her to Mina's Cleric class), then become a Warlock
again and THEN become a Bishop. I can't think of any reason why you
would want to do that, unless you really really want the cool-looking
fireball spell that has dragons.
Advancement:
Warlock -> *Cleric or Wizard
Wizard -> Arch Mage or Magic Knight
Magic Knight -> Ranger
Cleric -> *(same as Mina)
Sabra (Nahmu) - Commander of the Baltia troops
Sabra is the only full-time member of your team that can become
a dragon knight and fly. Do it, it's well worth it. She's even
a decent fighter up until then, too.
Advancement:
Fighter -> Knight or *Lord
Lord -> *Dragon Knight or Magic Knight
Magic Knight -> Ranger
Knight -> Knight Master or Grand Knight
Tiberon (Tiira) - Reformed pirate & navy commander
Unless you want him to be left far behind your party in later
stages of the game, DON'T make him a serpent knight. He's
better as a Knight Master, even though it's not a great class.
Andrew Luxmore comments that having a serpent knight or Croc
Knight is a fairly big advantage on the stages where it is
useful (7-9). I agree, but wouldn't want to make him so
crippled after that. Still, if you never plan to really
use him again (especially to move anywhere), then you could
make him a Serpent Knight. A good alternative would be to
intentionally keep him from promoting until the end of Scen 9,
then make him a knight.
Advancement:
Crocodile Knight -> Serpent Knight or *Knight
Knight -> *Knight Master
Thorne (Soun) - One of Lord Carleon's Knights
Generic fighter with no outstanding abilities. I prefer
Magic Knights to Knight Masters generally, but there are
benefits to either I suppose.
As a fighter, Thorne (and Bayard/Carleon) has a very slight defense bonus
when personally attacking slimes. He loses it when promoting to another
class. You probably won't make use of this bonus except on the first
stage where you see slimes.
Advancement:
Fighter -> Knight or *Lord
Lord -> *Magic Knight
Knight -> Knight Master
Bayard (Albert) - Commander of castle Anzel
A clone of Thorne with a different picture.
Advancement:
Fighter -> Knight or *Lord
Lord -> *Magic Knight
Knight -> Knight Master
Carleon (Hawking) - Friend of Garett's father
Another Thorne clone.
Advancement:
Fighter -> Knight or *Lord
Lord -> *Magic Knight
Knight -> Knight Master
Lance (??) - One of emperor Pythion's commanders
Another dragon knight is fun to have, except this guy will
eventually abandon you, and can't gain experience anyway.
Advancement:
Dragon Knight
Note: If you follow the recommended advancement paths, you will have
1 Grand Knight, 2 Saints, 1 Dragon Knight, 1 Knight Master and 3
Magic Knights.
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TROOP COMPARISONS [QFU]
Troops can't usually do more damage than they have points; that means
that a troop that is at 7 HPs can usually only do 7 points of damage.
All hand-to-hand troops can get a counterattack on any other
hand-to-hand troop that attacks them and misses. So if the enemy
usually misses, the troop can completely destroy them. This shows up
best when scores are drastically different and the enemy has weak
defense (so your counter-attack succeeds), like Baldarov's Horsemen
vs. Barbarians. It does not apply when fighting Archers/Monks or
when your troops are using a distance attack (fighting someone on a
wall when you are on the ground, etc..)
For example; one of Baldarov's horsemen with 1hp fights the
barbarians with 10hp. The horsemen's revised stats (with Baldarov's
+9 defense bonus) are 21/24. The barbarian's stats (the shaman gives
no bonus) are 19/14. Each of the 10 figures will attack the single
horseman unit and miss (19 vs 24), the horsemen will get a
counterattack (21 vs 14) and kill the figure that attacked it. All
10 figures will attack the lone horseman, all 10 will probably die.
The horseman gets 1 attack of it's own as well. This is why it is
better to bring Archers for the commander doing softening-up for
other commanders. The archers only get 1 attack, and usually miss at
least 1 or 2 shots. Archers don't counter-attack their attackers,
and no-one can counterattack their arrows.
Archers
The weakest offensive and defensive stats, but they get to shoot first
(before the enemy can get to them) so they may destroy many of their
opponents. When fighting in a forest, they get a 40% bonus to defense (vs
the normal 20%). They always seem to miss 1-2 shots, even when their
offense stat is much higher than the opponent's defense. If, however, you
soften up the enemies with a spell or two, then set your archers in good
spots to wait for th enemy's attack, they can work wonders - wiping
out several companies of enemies without even getting hurt.
When fighting flying or horse-mounted troops, they get +4 to attack and +2
to defense. They do NOT get this bonus against enemy commanders riding
horses, but DO get it against flying commanders.
Good against: Horsemen, Mermen/Lizardmen, Elementals
Weak against: Soldiers
Soldiers
The basic, average troops. If they can't physically reach the enemy, they
fling spears like archers (without archer bonuses).
They get +2 AT/+4 DF when fighting archers. This is a pretty weak bonus,
so unless they get a high +DF from their commander they're probably going
to lose a few people.
Good against: damaged Archers, Barbarians
Weak against: Horsemen
Horsemen
Mounted troops. Somewhat stronger Attacking, but vulnerable to ranged
attacks. Although stats are highest overall, this type of troops suffers
movement penalties on all terrain types except regular plains and roads,
making them *slower* than soldiers and archers. On flat terrain, their
+2 movement range is a help though. Keep them on it when you move.
Against soldiers and most enemy commanders they get +4 AT/+2 DF
Good against: Soldiers, Barbarians, Evil Ants
Weak against: Archers
Mermen
Aquatic troops. Strong offense, but also easily killed. They can move
quickly through water, and get a +50% defense bonus in it. This raises
their defense to a pathetic 11-12 (if in range of their commander).
Against archers, their miserable defense gaurantees they'll die... like
shooting fish in a barrel. Against other troops, you can expect to some
mutual destruction (so you'll win if your troops start out with more
health). Against DAMAGED commanders, any mermen that aren't killed by
the range attack have a good chance of doing some damage.
They're also a little expensive. Their shining moment comes in stages
6-9 (with a lot of water), and then the rest of the game is fought inside.
Good against: damaged Commanders in the water
Weak against: Archers
Gryphons
"Mermen of the sky" With their cruddy defense, even barbarians can walk
all over these troops. Their main advantage is their high offense score
31 and the ability to fly, making them your most mobile troops. Since
they'll get badly hurt by any enemy, don't buy them unless you have an
enemy with a strong defense that you want to use them for.
Good against: Carrion Crawlers, Styracosaurs, damaged Commanders
Weak against: Archers
Guardsmen
Weaker Holy troops, temple acolytes. They have low scores but get special
bonuses vs. slimes. They are good for attacking Lizardmen or anything with
a low defense score (they come out about even, but are cheap and expendable).
Against slime, they get an insane +14/+18, raising the stats of even out-of
range troops to 30 AT/28 DF. Even a Great Slime (Commander) only has 19 AT
and 28 DF. A 1 HP guardsman can usually wipe out a 10HP slime.
They also get +2 AT/+4 DF vs Archers, just like soldiers. However, their
defense stats are too weak to survive attacking archers with high HP.
Good against: Slime
Weak against: Pretty much everything else
Monks
Slightly stronger Holy troops. They use a ranged attack like Archers and
are a little stronger defensively. Consider them a flip-flopped archer;
good against solders and bad against horsemen. (thanks Andrew Luxmore)
They get +6 AT/+8 DF against undead. However, the only undead in the
game are Skeletons (troops) and Ganelon.
Good against: Soldiers, Undead
Weak against: No major weaknesses
Citizens
Cannon fodder. Speed bumps. They are only useful to temporarily slow the
enemy down. Don't rely on these troops to last long enough for you to waste
your time. They are almost gauranteed to be completely wiped out if they
are attacked. They will never attack anything themselves.
Oddly enough, they get +2 AT/+4 DF vs. Archers, just like soldiers do.
Player/Enemy troop comparisons
Key:
Cost - Amount it costs to buy 1 unit for 1 battle
AT - Attack Power
DF - Defense Strength
MV - Movement points
Attack - Attack type
Special - Notes
Typ - Type of enemy (for determining bonuses to hit)
$$ - Amount added to your killing score for destroying 1 unit
XP - Experience gained for killing it
Class Cost AT DF MV Attack Near/Far Special
----- ---- -- -- -- --------------- -------
Soldier 40 20 14 6 Fight/Spears +2/+4 vs Archers
Horseman 60 21 15 8 Fight/Spears +4/+2 vs Soldiers
Archer 70 19 14 7 Arrows/Arrows +4/+2 vs Horse/Flyers
+20% DF in Forest (+40% total)
Monk 60 20 13 6 Spears/Spears +6/+8 vs Skeletons/Wights
Merman 80 24 6 *7 Fight/Trident *Sea Movement
+50% DF in Water (+50% total)
Gryphon 100 27 13 *9 Fight/Fight *Air Movement
Guardsman 30 16 10 6 Fight/Fire +14/+18 vs Slimes
+2/+4 vs Archers
Enemy Class Typ AT DF MV XP $$ Special
----------- --- -- -- -- -- -- -------
Barbarian S 19 14 6 3 15 weak vs. Horsemen
Slime L 19 20 6 3 5 weak vs. Guardsmen
Dark Elf A 20 14 7 3 15 +20% DF in Forest
Soldier S 20 14 6 3 10
Horseman H 21 15 8 3 15 weak vs. Archers
Royal Soldier S 24 18 6 5 20
Leviathan W 23 17 8 3 10 (sea movement, +50% def. in water)
Gargoyle F 27 14 8 3 20 (air movement, weak vs. Archers)
Styracosaur S 23 24 6 3 20
Evil Ant M 19 16 8 2 5 movement penalties
Werewolf S 25 17 6 3 10
Carrion Crawler M 20 24 6 3 20
Skeleton U 24 21 6 3 5 weak vs. Monks
Golem M 19 40 6 8 50
Elemental F 23 20 8 2 10 (air movement, weak vs. Archers)
Lizard man W 23 6 8 3 5 (sea movement, +DF in water)
+40% def. in deep water, +50% in Shallow water, +10% DF in Forest
Types:
S -> Soldier, weak vs Horsemen
H -> Horseman, weak vs Archers/Dark Elves
A -> Archer, weak vs Soldiers
F -> Flying, weak vs Archers/Dark Elves
U -> Undead, weak vs Monks/Priests
L -> Slime, weak vs Guardsmen/Cleric
W -> Water, +50% to defense in water
M -> Monster [no weaknesses]
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COMMANDER CLASS COMPARISONS [QFC]
Commanders max damage depends on their HP level:
HP 10: 10 damage
HP 8-9: 9 damage
HP 6-7: 8 damage
HP 4-5: 7 damage
HP 2-3: 6 damage
HP 1: 5 damage
(Thanks *****)
All commanders have a special ranged attack against all enemies. They
can get bonuses from terrain, but they do not add their troop bonus to
their own stats. They do not get counterattacks like melee troops.
Key:
Adv - XP Needed to advance a level
XP - XP Given when killed
AT - Commander's attacking power
DF - Commander's defense
MP - Magic points
MV - Movement points
R - Sphere of Influence range
A+ - Attacking bonus to troops in range
D+ - Defense bonus to troops in range
Troops - Type(s) of troops commander can get
Spells - Spells available to commander
* - Enemy commander class
$$$ - Amount added to your killing score for destroying it
Class Typ Adv XP $$$ AT DF MP MV R A+/D+ Troops Spells
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Archmage S 40 10 - 31 17 32 6 4 9/2 SAG A,F,E
*Archmage S 32 10 150 31 17 16 6 4 7/0 F,To
*Basilisk M 32 15 200 27 27 1 6 4 3/2 STONE GAS
Bishop S 48 10 - 27 20 16 6 4 4/6 SAK F2,H2,C
*Bishop S 32 10 120 27 20 16 6 4 6/4 A,F2,H2
*Chaos M 32 10 100 35 35 40 7 4 4/4 Th,E,H2
Cleric S 32 7 - 23 17 8 5 4 0/4 G H1
*Conjurer S 32 10 44 19 20 16 6 4 1/2 B
Croc. Knight W 16 10 - 28 20 0 7 4 2/2 SM -
Dragon Knight F 48 12 - 34 24 4 9 4 4/2 F B
Fighter S 16a 7 50 23 21 0 6 3 2/2 S -
*Fighter S 16 8 50 23 21 0 6 4 2/2 S -
Fire Element (b) M 64 45 - 41 34 16 8 4 0/0 F
*Gorgosaur S 32 20 200 31 28 12 6 4 5/0 F
Grand Knight H 48 12 - 33 28 0 6 4 8/4 SHA -
*Grand Knight S 32 10 80 31 25 0 6 4 6/4 -
*Great Dragon F 32 25 244 35 35 16 3 4 5/4 F
*Great Slime L 24 9 50 19 28 0 6 4 2/2 -
High Priestess S 48 10 - 27 32 32 6 4 4/8 SGK H2,H3,S
*Kaiser S 32 15 244 32 32 12 6 4 4/4 B,H1
King S 48 15 - 31 28 12 6 4 6/4 SHA A,H1
Knight H 24 7 - 31 20 0 8 4 4/2 SH -
*Knight S 24 9 70 31 20 0 8 4 4/2 -
Knight Master H 48 10 - 34 24 8 8 4 8/2 SHA L
*Kraken W 32 17 150 29 26 0 6 4 0/2 -
*Living Armor S 32 10 50 32 30 8 6 4 5/4 F
Lord S 24a 10 - 27 24 8 6 4 2/4 SA H1
*Lord S 24 10 100 27 24 8 6 4 2/4 H1
Magic Knight H 48 10 - 31 25 16 8 4 6/4 SHA Th,H1
Priestess S 40 7 - 27 24 16 6 4 2/6 GK H1,H2
*Queen Ant M 24 12 100 31 20 0 8 4 6/5 -
Ranger S 64 20 - 41 28 16 9 4 0/0 - E,C,S
*Royal Guard S 32 15 100 35 21 4 8 4 6/4 L
Saint S 48 12 - 31 24 24 6 4 9/4 SGK F,To,H2
Serp. Knight W 24 12 - 32 24 0 7 4 6/2 SM -
*Serp. Knight W 24 12 80 31 24 0 7 4 4/2 -
*Shaman S 16 10 80 25 15 4 4 4 0/0 A
*Sorceror S 24 15 100 27 20 16 6 4 3/2 H2,C,S
Sword Master S 24 15 - 25 22 0 6 4 0/9 SHA -
Warlock S 8 7 - 27 13 10 6 4 3/2 G A
*Werewolf S 32 10 150 29 21 0 6 4 6/4 -
*Wight U 32 20 50 31 34 16 6 4 7/6 Th
Wizard S 24 7 - 27 15 16 6 4 6/2 SG A,F
*Wizard S 24 8 100 27 16 16 6 4 4/0 B
*Wyvern F 32 15 200 31 24 8 7 4 3/2 F
NOTEs
a: Garrett as a fighter gets +1 to defense and an
+4/+2 bonus to troops instead of +2/+2.
b: The Fire Elemental joins for scenario 15 as an ally
Troop codes:
S - Soldiers, H - Horsemen, A - Archers, M - Mermen
K - Monk, G - Guardsmen, F - Gryphon
Spell codes:
A - Magic Arrows, F - Fireball, Th - Thunder, To - Tornado
L - Lightning, E - Earthquake, B - Blizzard, F2 - Fireball (Dragon)
H1 - Healing 1, H2 - Healing 2, H3 - Healing 3
C - Confusion, S - Sleep
CLASS DISCUSSION
Archmage
The Archmage sucks. So what if she gets Earthquake? It usually
does a puny 2 points of damage, and can destroy walls. The Saint
gets Tornado, a righteous kick-ass spell that rips the enemy to
shreds! Send Calais the Saint route.
Andrew Luxmore disagrees with me about this; here are his comments
on the usefulness of the Archmage:
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Now I agree with what you say about the saint and tornado... and
earthquake is annoying because it's so expensive, but I don't think
it can be so easily disregarded! First of all, the orb makes for
an extra use of it, and then you still have room left for fireball
- the small spells shouldn't be underestimated. Often, only one or
two damage is needed to make the enemy weak enough to kill with any
commander. This is excellent for promoting weaker commanders.
Without the orb, argemage has 8 uses of fireball, with the orb 15.
Every turn she is able to knock down every single troop by 1 or
2, for 15 turns! It doesn't have the impact of a tornado, but it's
still impressive.
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After trying this out, I've upgraded the Archmage from 'sucks' to
so-so. If you are using archers or solo commanders and the enemy
is can all get to you on their turn, an earthquake could lower every
enemy into the sweet 8-9 HP zone so that they'll all suicide on your
ranged attackers.
Bishop
Strike 1: Confusion. A totally useless spell, but D.Fireball and
Heal2 are fairly good, if not outstanding spells. With the ability
to use Archers AND Monks, and with a nice defense bonus, you could
say this is a versatile class that could be good at filling a support
role. However, the low MP means you won't get many spells, the stats
on the Bishop aren't good enough to attack things directly, and I'd
probably never use the Archers over the Monks. On the plus side, it
doesn't take much experience to get here. Now if they'd replaced the
Archers with Elementals like the enemy Bishops use, we'd be getting
somewhere.
Cleric
Well, for a starting class, it's okay I guess. Keep it and it's
crappy soldiers in the back and save them for mop-up duty on badly
damaged enemies (or mermen on land). After you're done beating up
mermen who come on land, you have to hover around other commanders
like vultures, swooping in to pick off the 2-3hp troops they leave
behind (with your full-health guardsmen). It can be considered to
be the defensive counterpart to the enemy Shaman class. They both
have only a 5 movement range and similar stats. With the MV range of
5, she can't keep up very well with other commanders on the move.
Cleric commanders get bonuses when directly attacking slimes.
Croc. Knight
It has the special advantage of being able to travel on water and
have swimming troops. This makes it a useful class until Scen 9,
after which there is no more water to really fight in. Your only
starting class with these kind of special advantages, though. Nice
to have around for the while you have it.
Dragon Knight
Woohoo! This class rules once you get it. The commander and their
troops can zip around the map, heading to trouble spots or out of
danger. Their troops have fairly nasty attacking power and can do
serious damage to any non-archers they attack. Not to mention the
devious spell-draining tricks... The spell does suck, and you can
only cast it once. This class is well designed for taking out
commanders with strong troops. Use gryphons to punch through the
troops and wipe out the commander. It's tailor-made for Basilisks
and Gorgosaurs, each of which come with styracosaurs.
Fighter
Hey, well... what did you expect from a starting class? Garett
gets some advantages, but other than that... the class bites. The
only one with a measly 3-square range on the sphere of influence
instead of 4.
Grand Knight
Not one I had ever considered (I considered it's lack of any magic
capabilities to be too much of a drawback), but Andrew Luxmore
points out some interesting possibilities:
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Garrett, even though he should be king because it fits in well with
the story, makes for an interesting Grand Knight. Knights are
better than lords, especially early in the game, and he gets
promoted to Grand Knight before Baldorov dies; he replaces his
purpose, which is to weaken enemies for promoting commanders.
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This... was an awesome idea. I tried it out, and the game seems a
bit easier after that. GK's extra attack bonus + archers make it
a piece of cake to weaken enemies. The extra defense is reassuring
if he ever gets attacked. I also hardly ever cast Arrows or Heal 1.
NOTE: Although it looks like it is riding a mount, this commander
uses regular Monster-based movement (instead of horse-based movement).
You can't move onto castle walls though.
High Priestess
Starting off at one wasted spell: Sleep, this class would have to be
*really* good to make up for the loss. Guess what? It isn't! Your
only other spells are healing ones, making this a pure defense class.
Most of your troop options are specialized (Guardsmen and Monks). I
wouldn't recommend this class unless you know what you're giving up
by not choosing the Saint.
King
Only one hero can become a King; Garett. It's a fairly
well-rounded class too, and fits in with the story. It doesn't
shine in any seriously outstanding way. It's somewhat hard to kill,
and can help out in a minor way with Arrows and Heal1. With archers,
it is decent for helping other commanders gain XP.
The GK is overall a better class, with better bonuses and easier to
keep alive (due to it's higher personal defense). Sacrificing the
spells is not a serious loss, since your other commanders can make
up for it.
I'd say the only reason to become a King is for the story.
Knight
It's nice to have Horsemen. They do some decent damage in the first
2/3 of the game. The Knight has a tough time moving over anything but
plains and roads.
Knight Master
If Magic Knight didn't have the awesome Thunder spell, Knight Master
wouldn't look so bad. KM has the second-highest attack bonus, behind
Saint and Archmage. This makes their troops great for softening-up
enemies or taking on high DF enemies and bosses. The personal AT for
the commander is tied at second-highest as well, same as Dragon Knight.
Unfortunately, not having access to Thunder means you can't use the
strategy of Thunder + letting the enemy destroy itself on their turn.
Your lightning spell is a more annoying version of Magic Arrows. You'll
hit about as many people for about as much damage (using twice the MP),
but they all have to be in a straight line from you.
Tiberon should be the only one of these you make.
Lord
Lord-based classes have higher defense at the expense of offense,
but get nice spells as well. You get a weak, but handy spell
(healing 1) and can use Archers. Odds are, you won't want archers
as much as you wish you had horsemen (for being a Knight), but
there are several times they come in handy.
Magic Knight
A decent final class, and hands-down better than the Knight Master.
Thunder gives you a chance to nicely soften up the enemies before
your troops finish them off. Take advantage of your defense bonus
to sit in defensive spots and let the enemies come to you when you
can. If you can get 2 MKs together, 2 thunders can lower all the
enemies to 4 or less and make them easy cleanup for any commander.
If your MK gets to level 5, Thunder becomes even nastier. I've seen a
single Thunder do 6 damage to troops.
Priestess
At first it doesn't seem like a big upgrade to the Cleric, and the
experience bar is huge. Then you notice that your monks, combined
with your hefty defense bonus, do well against nearly all enemies.
About the only thing they don't do well against is horsemen. You
also get an upgraded healing spell that comes in handy. Feed this
class experience and you'll be rewarded with the most powerful class
in the game: Saint!
Ranger
Wow, check out the stats: 41/28!! There's only three downsides: the
spells are complete crap, you don't get any troops, and you had to
give up becoming a DK or Saint to get here.
If you give her a defensive item, she can drain enemy spells fairly
well. She's not weak against archers like a DK, but can't fly over
a wall to get the 40% defense bonus.
If you make one, they're great to have against several enemies that
have a high defense: the dragon, golems, Ganelon and his styracs,
and Chaos.
This is the ultimate class if you are doing a "no troops" playthrough.
If someone casts an offense spell to lower the enemy, they'll
happily fling themselves against the wall of death that is the Ranger.
Saint
I don't see what's so Saintly and peaceful bout this class, but it
rules nonetheless. Since the alternative is High Priestess, the
choice is a no-brainer. The High Priestess could have been a nice
class, but the Saint is *way* better.
This class is revenge for the fairly weak Cleric/Priest classes and
makes it worth slogging through them (IMHO). You get pumped troop
bonuses (+9!/+4) to allow your troops to take on enemy commanders
and hurt them. You get a versatile selection of spells: Tornado
(the game's nastiest spell to deal lots of damage to a fairly wide
area), Fireball (to soften/weaken troops) and Healing 2 (to allow
you to play a support role as well!)
The Saint is good for taking on full-health enemies and ending the
battle quickly. Launch a Tornado and dive right in. If your
troops are evenly matched, you'll kill almost every one you attack
(assuming you start with full-health troops). Best of all, the
enemy troops will still be damaged and just starting to rotate into
healing position; your second attack wave can kill them all off.
To capitalize on this, attack the troops that are next to their
commander on the first wave, so *none* of the troops get to heal on
their next turn. If you have one or two other commanders to back
up your Saint, you can probably wipe out a full-health enemy and
all their troops on the same turn. You don't get as many Tornados
(3 without the orb), but that translates almost directly to 3 or
more entire groups of enemies destroyed. You do have to hold the
Saint in reserve for the occasions where you need her, whereas with
the Archmage you may as well keep her constantly chucking fireballs
around, since she's not good for much else.
The major disadvantage of the Saint for Calais is that she'll have
a longer experience route to get there. Unfortunately, the
Priestess experience bar is longer than the Wizard bar, meaning you
will take quite a bit longer (at least several scenarios more than
it would take to become Archmage) to advance to Saint. I think
it's ultimately worth it to have a better commander, but I'm also a
perfectionist.
Serpent Knight
As the advanced version of the Crocodile Knight, it comes into it's
own Scen 7-9 (with lots of water), then *ROYALLY* sucks after that.
If you still have it post-scen 9, only use it when the enemies are
willing to come to you, and get soldiers. Otherwise, the battles
will be long over before Tiberon can drag his stupid serpent there.
You are making a big sacrifice (the last 11 levels, more than half
the game!) to have a short-term advantage in 7-10.
If you are stuck with this class after scen 9, there are little
patches of water on scen 13 - 15 that are cool to fight in (vs.
styracosaurs) if you can get to them and convince the enemy to come
to you.
From Freddie Nguyen:
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Don't bag the Serpant Knight. He has great stats, even if he IS
slow, just find a pool of water and he RIPS. Out of water, he ain't
so great, but he's still good. The Knight/Knight Master path is
quite horrible. Tiberon as a Serpant Knight holds my record for
consecutive kills. 89 werewolves in the same enemy phase! He looks
better than the Knight too, and you don't have to give him much EXP
to get there. Any pool of water and Tiberon is full power!
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Sword Master
For the short time you have one, this class serves one purpose:
weaken the enemies enough so that other commanders can get the
experience. The huge defense bonus + archers is your ticket. As long as
the troops are in range, they are practically invincible.
Warlock
Hey, it's a starting class. And not *that* bad either. Guardsmen
and magic arrows. You have to follow the same strategy as the
cleric; beating up really weak enemies (like mermen out of water)
and scavenging the rest of your kills. With the game's shortest
experience bar (only 3 enemies to go up a level!) you'll won't be
a warlock very long.
Wizard
It's a competent class; fireball can come in handy a couple times.
But your main objective is still to get through it to the more
advanced classes. If you're fairly evenly matched against the
enemy (say you have guardsmen vs. lizardmen), let them come to you
and leave a bunch of their 1-2hp troops close together after
fighting yours. Then one fireball can wipe out a bunch at a time,
racking up the experience for you. On the plus side, you can use
Soldiers, which are a whole lot better than Guardsmen.
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ITEMS [QFI]
Name - Attack adj./Defense adj., special effect
Amulet - +0/+2, doubles radius of sphere of influence
Cross - +0/+2
Great Sword - +2/+0
Wand - +2/+0, increases max spell damage by 1-2 points
Shield - +0/+4
Evil Axe - +8/-10
Dragon Slayer - +5/+3, disappears after the battle
Warsong - +4/+4
Orb - +0/+0, magic cost reduced by 50%
The Orb is one of the more interesting items. It cuts the cost of
the spell by 50% *WHEN IT IS CAST*. If you don't have enough points
to pay the full cost of the spell, you can't cast it even though you
should be able to. (bug?) So, you can't cast that last 'Lightning'
with only 2 MP left. This way, it doesn't quite double the number of
spells you can cast.
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SPELLS [QFS]
Spells are great. It doesn't sound that useful to do only 1-3 damage or
a little bit of healing, but it can mean the difference between a complete
wipeout of the enemy or heavy losses for your side.
A full 10HP archer vs. a full 10HP enemy will usually miss a couple shots
and end up taking damage. If the enemy was lowered to 8HP by a fireball or
magic arrows, then you'll wipe them out without taking any damage at all.
So if you were to launch a fireball, place a line of archers and wait, the
enemy will likely slaughter themselves completely on you. In other
matchups like guardsmen vs. lizardmen, or soldiers vs. soldiers, the
outcome is usually a mutual destruction. Both sets of troops are lowered
to 0-2 hp, If you set a line of troops for the enemy to attack, then both
your troops and the enemy are lowered to 1-2 hp, a fireball can wipe out
all those enemy troops, leaving yours to rotate into healing positions.
Troops killed with magic DO give experience to the casting commander.
Spell Name Cost - Distance away, Effect Radius, Effect
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Magic Arrows (2mp) - 6, 1r, 1-2 Dmg
Healing 1 (2mp) - 4, 2r, 1-2 Recover
Healing 2 (4mp) - 4, 2r, 2-4 Recover
Fireball (4mp) - 5, 2r, 1-3 Dmg
Thunder (4mp) - 5, 3r, 2-5 Dmg
Lightning (4mp) - 7, Straight Line, 1-3 Dmg
Blizzard (4mp) - 5, 3r, 1-3 Dmg
Sleep (4mp) - 4, 2r, 25% chance of putting enemies to sleep
D.Fireball (8mp) - 5, 3r, 2-4 Dmg
Healing 3 (8mp) - 4, 2r, 5-8 Recover
Tornado (8mp) - 5, 4r, 2-6 Dmg
Confusion (8mp) - 7, 1r, Enemies in area might attack each other
Earthquake (16mp) - 4, 11r, 1-4 Dmg (also damages walls)
Stone Gas 0mp - 5, 1r, turn enemy to stone [Used by enemy Basilisks]
After the caster reaches level 5, the max distance away and effect
radius of all spells increase by 1, the maximum damage (and possibly
minimum damage) also increases by 1. Confusion and Sleep are really
useless, you get the most bang for your MP out of Thunder and
Tornado.
Earthquake can destroy walls, making them passable. Destroyed walls
are NOT saved if you do an Interrupt, so you can make some wierd
strategy out of casting Earthquake, running across the wall,
interrupt, reload and the enemy cannot get to you... :) This is
probably a bug.
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CODES AND CHEATING
All items - On the troop purchase and distribution screen (after you
have chosen commanders and Garett is highlighted), press and hold
LEFT + UP + A + B for about 10 seconds (you will be highlighting the
last commander in the list). The music will start over, your gold
will be set to Zero and you will have all items except for Warsong
(if you already have Warsong, you won't lose it though).This code
gives you all the items in the game except for Warsong! It's
existence has been a rumor for quite some time, since the Warsong box
shows the item-distribution screen with a bunch of items, including
the Dragon Slayer! A code like it existed in Langrisser but was
reportedly removed. It has now been verified and works in both the
ROM and the cart. Thanks *VERY MUCH* to Joseph Teo
<
[email protected]> for reporting this one!
Level Select - Go to the Upper-Left square in wide-screen mode (icons
are smaller, press A to switch between wide and normal). Then go
Down 1 square and Right one square. (Exactly 1 square diagonally
from the upper-left). Press B for 5 seconds or so. Pick the level
you want to go to. Warping ahead is suicide - you often miss
characters you would have gotten, and you'll be a lot weaker than
you're supposed to be. If you feel lucky, take on Chaos with just
Garrett and Baldarov! This is more beneficial if you warp backwards
to pick up extra experience. Good levels to visit are 13 (the
Basilisk level) and 16 (The Great Dragon's lair). Note: If you pick
up Lance on level 13, you can warp ahead to 20 and he won't leave!
NOT that he's all that great...
Caveat: If the scenario you warp to gives you a new character at the
end (and you already have the character), their class will change
back to what it was at the time (usually setting it back to Fighter
or Lord). They keep the level and experience they had before they
got changed back, though.
If you warp back to one of the really early scenarios where you had
Baldarov after you have already lost him, then Baldarov will be
replaced with one of the other characters you had before you warped,
usually Calais (She won't die if you warp to the stage where you
lose Baldarov and beat it though, although it will do the
Baldarov-dying dialog).
It's usually best to warp to a stage where your party does not
change and wasn't smaller than it is now.
Sound Test
Same as the Level select, just do it in Normal screen mode. You can
change the background music (lasts until end-of-turn).
There are a total of 63 sound "slots", many of which are silent.
I've
tried to identify all the sounds I could. Ones marked with a '*' are
never used in the game, as far as I can tell. Numbers which aren't
listed are silent.
1 - Opening theme, part 1
2 - Ending theme
3 - Victory theme
* 4 - (Annoying battle theme)
* 5 - (Battle theme)
6 - Good side battle theme 1
7 - Good side battle theme 2
8 - Enemy side battle theme 1
9 - Good side battle theme 3
10 - Enemy side battle theme 2
11 - Game over
12 - Enemy side battle theme 3
13 - Character select music
14 - Battle over tally music
*15 - (Happy music)
16 - Opening theme, part 2/Final Battle music
33 - Battle figure dying 1
34 - Battle figure screaming 1
*35 - (blob sound)
*36 - (fart siren)
37 - Battle figure dying 2
*38 - (buzz)
*39 - (chirp)
40 - Battle figure miss
41 - Spell Explosion 1
42 - Spell Explosion 2
43 - Spell Explosion 3
44 - Battle unit annihilated 1
*45 - (buzz)
*46 - (chattering) - repeats
*47 - (horseman noise) - repeats
*48 - (explosion noise) - repeats
49 - Spell Explosion 4
50 - Lightning spell
*51 - (buzz)
52 - Battle figure dying 3
53 - Battle figure dying 4
54 - Menu cursor move beep
57 - Error Buzz
58 - Battle unit annihilated 2
*59 - (buzz)
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RUMORS, NITPICKS and COMMENTS
Move Garett to Bottom-Left corner on Level 2. Supposedly maxes out
experience. This doesn't seem possible. Could it possibly be the
Top-Left or right? At any rate, Garett can max out on experience in
only a few more scenarios.
An interesting note (Andrew Luxmore) is that the outcome of the
battle is determined as soon as it starts. If you save-state and
restore during a battle, the outcome will always be the same. This
is due to the way the game determines random numbers. This is often
based on the number of milliseconds that have elapsed since the game
was
turned on. Since that information is also saved when you use a
state-save, the outcome will always be the same. So will the next
battles as well if you do not do something to alter the timing (like
hit B to speed up the selection of the next troop).
Nitpicks
We start each scenario by buying troops (presumably hiring
mercenaries for a one-shot battle). At the end of scenario 11 we end
by going up the stairs to Pythion's throne room. Where do we hire
the mercenaries from for scenario 12? Does Pythion have
mercenary-hiring depots in his stairwells?
People in the game seem to recognize artifacts with no explanation: A
soldier points out Pythion's axe to Garett, Garett just says
something like "Oh, yeah - that's the Evil Axe." without commenting
on it.
The unstoning mirror in level 13 doesn't un-stone the villagers (the
statues that are laying around)
From Freddie Nguyen:
Has anyone noticed that Baldarov hasn't got that good stats? With his
bonus, his troops have a better def than him!
Scen 2: What's a traveling Cleric doing with 60 Civilians?
Scen 3: Why in level 3 are there only 80 civilians? Did Mina bring
the Town 75% of it's population? Were there only 20 people living
there before?
Why is it that when commanders join you. That they die and that's
that. They're dead. When you kill Lance the first 5(!!) times you
meet him, he comes back, just as good as ever. As soon as he joins
you and dies, he's permanatly dead. As with the other commanders..
It's like they join you and they're allowed to pass through to the
other worlds.
Why is Sabra the only one to escape the fall of Baltia? She gets
smashed by two groups and she'll probably die first but she escapes
to meet with you whilst Tiberon and Calis get captured.
We can assume that Alfador died between level 1 and 6. How come
then, after that no one calls you King Garret? You are the King since
Pa's bought the farm.
Why does Carleon come much later and weaker than Thorne? Carleon is
Thorne's BOSS. [In my last game, Thorne hadn't gotten any XP, so Carleon
showed up at Lv9 while Thorne was still Lv2-3]
When people evolve, where do they get thier stuff from? Do they
pull horses, serpents and dragons out of thin air?
Scen 12: how did you get surrounded and split? Did those four run
forward like charging idiots? and did those four enemy commanders let
them pass before cutting them off?
[ My note: Actually, there seem to be stairs above Garett and below
the commanders on the right side. Presumably those two staircases in
Scen 11 end up at those separate stairwells... ]
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CHALLENGES
I've played the game through many times now (at least 5), and I
still enjoy it. Once you get the AI down and can predict what the
computer will probably do and how to make it fight the way you want,
the scenarios become a lot easier. Still, there are many ways to
make it even easier; using a dragon knight to drain all the enemy
magic, using the interrupt/reset to gaurantee a perfect result,
warping back to earlier stages to beef up your characters... This
section is here to provide self-imposed rules to make the game more
difficult for people who want a challenge...
- Don't warp backwards (25 points)
- Don't use interrupt/reset or state-save on an emulator (25 points)
- Don't use the Dragon Knight draining trick (5 points)
- Self-defense: Try to complete the scenario objectives without
attacking any enemy troops (just enemy commanders; 'Allied'
commanders don't count against this restriction) (20 points)
- Don't use items at all. (10 points)
- Don't buy troops at all! (You can beat the game with just the
leaders, especially after you get defensive items. Tip: Place as
few commanders as the game will let you) (15 points)
Try to beat the game while breaking as few challenge rules as you
can, then add up the points after each rule and rate yourself:
100 points - Supreme master!
95-99 points - Master
90-94 points - Expert
65-89 points - Pro
50-64 points - Amateur
25-49 points - Beginner
0-24 points - Wuss
(Note: By this scale, I only rate 'Master' since I like to use the
dragon knight draining trick. Maybe next time I'll just make
Sabra a Magic Knight instead and try for the max points)
Tips:
Everyone should be able to beat the game without warping backwards
or using interrupt/reset. It's not *that* hard or terrible when you
do not achieve the perfect result. I don't count saving/loading at
the end of the level to be breaking this rule.
If you don't get troops, your best bet is to also just take out the
commanders when you have a chance (losing XP as well). Your
scenarios will take a *long* time to beat. It doesn't count if the
enemy attacks you (self-defense!) so you can still let the enemy
come to you and wait for your turn to strike. Some stages are
*REALLY* hard this way, especially 7 and 8 for me. Try to make
Calais a Ranger, since it is the best Solo class.
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UNIT DATA SPREADSHEET (link) [QFX]
I have compiled the class & unit data straight from the ROM and assembled
it into a spreadsheet. You can view it here:
http://goo.gl/DWWnJ
It shows all the bonuses, terrain movement penalties and other data.
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THANKS AND CREDITS
Darin Mackiewicz <
[email protected]> -
For working out the advancement paths and commander relative
strengths!
Abacrombie <
[email protected]> - Strategy tips
****? - Somebody sent me an AWESOME text file (warsong.wri)
listing a lot of stuff about the different scenarios,
spell damage and a bunch of other bits. If you can tell
me who you are, I'll happily add you here.
Nelson <
[email protected]> - Several class stats and some tips
for playing Mina and Calais.
Mark <
[email protected]> - Stats for Garett and moving power
consumptions. Also for the entry times for reinforcements in
scenarios 7, 8 and 9.
Guy H. <
[email protected]> - Grand Knight stats and for
pointing out that Garett and Sabra can become a GK from Knight.
Eric Karl <
[email protected]> - Telling me about Megasis (one
of very few emulators that correctly run Warsong ROMS!)
Levi Banker <
[email protected]> and
James Kohos <
[email protected]> - for pointing out (on the
same day!) Gens, the other emulator that runs Warsong Roms.
Andrew Luxmore <
[email protected]> - Comments on several
of the classes, many alternative scenario strategies, corrections
to the monk class. Suggestions for different advancement paths.
Joseph Teoh <
[email protected]> - The "All Items" code!
Freddie Nguyen <
[email protected]> - Tons of strategy
suggestions for a lot of levels, also plenty of general strategy
tips and ideas for other levels, not to mention quite a lot of
fun Nitpicks. :)
