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| 0.3% ΞΑΝΑΕΠΕΣΕ ] | |
| 2;Ο CFR TOY COVID!!! | |
| By: ΛΧΑ Date: March 24, 2 | |
| 020, 2:36 pm | |
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| Παραθέτω | |
| άρθρο, το | |
| οποίο βρήκα | |
| σε | |
| ιστοσελίδα | |
| mainstream ευρείας | |
| κυκλοφορία` | |
| 2;, | |
| στο οποίο | |
| μας | |
| πληροφορού_ | |
| 7; | |
| ότι το | |
| πραγματικό CFR | |
| του ιού | |
| είναι 0.3% και | |
| ότι οι | |
| Ιταλοί του | |
| βγάζουν στο | |
| ταβάνι | |
| γιατί | |
| μετράνε | |
| τους όσους | |
| πηγαίνουν | |
| στο | |
| νοσοκομείο | |
| με διαβήτη, | |
| καρδιά κτλ | |
| και | |
| παθαίνουν | |
| λοίμωξη από | |
| covid (ενημερώνω | |
| ότι η | |
| λοίμωξη που | |
| τους | |
| σκοτώνει | |
| δεν είναι | |
| μια, δεν | |
| είναι ένα | |
| μικρόβιο. | |
| Παράλληλα | |
| μπορεί να | |
| έχουν και | |
| γρίπες και | |
| ένα σωρό | |
| άλλα | |
| παθογόνα | |
| αλλά για | |
| αυτά δεν | |
| κάνουν τεστ! | |
| Όταν βρουν covid, | |
| στον άλλον ο | |
| οποίος | |
| μπορεί να | |
| είχε | |
| πεθάνει από | |
| υπέρταση/κα	 | |
| 61;διακό, | |
| τον | |
| κατηγοριοπ_ | |
| 9;ιούν | |
| ως νεκρό covid!!!!) | |
| Λέει εδώ ο | |
| αρθρογράφο` | |
| 2; | |
| πως όσο | |
| μεγαλώνει | |
| το δείγμα, | |
| τόσο | |
| μικραίνει | |
| το cfr! Εγώ το | |
| έβγαλα 0.64% εδώ | |
| http://webwar.createaforum.com/917960953963964942956951-954945953-9329499679579… | |
| />αλλά από ό,τι | |
| ; | |
| φαίνεται | |
| έκανα πολύ | |
| συντηρητικ^ | |
| 1;ς | |
| εκτιμήσεις | |
| με το 15% (βλ. εδώ | |
| https://www.protothema.gr/world/article/988422/koronoios-vretania-pithanon-na-e… | |
| Επίσης κάτι | |
| που θα ρίξει | |
| το cfr κι άλλο | |
| είναι το | |
| γεγονός ότι | |
| πέρασε το peak | |
| της | |
| εποχικότητ^ | |
| 5;ς | |
| των ιών του | |
| αναπνευστι_ | |
| 4;ού. | |
| covid19 = γρίπη | |
| 120 χιλιάδες | |
| Έλληνες | |
| γέροι | |
| πεθαίνουν | |
| κάθε χρόνο | |
| και εμείς | |
| κάνουμε | |
| τόση | |
| φασαρία και | |
| ζημιά στην | |
| οικονομία | |
| για 20 άτομα | |
| (όλοι τους | |
| γέροι με | |
| καρδιά, | |
| διαβήτη και | |
| καρκίνο)... | |
| [quote]Is there something about being Germany which protects the | |
| body against coronavirus Covid-19? Probably not, I would guess. | |
| In which case why do the latest figures from the Robert Koch | |
| Institute show that the country has a case fatality rate (CFR) | |
| of 0.3 per cent, while the World Health Organisation (WHO) | |
| figures from Italy seem to show a CFR of 9 per cent? To say | |
| there is a vast gulf between those figures is an understatement. | |
| If nine per cent of people who catch Covid-19 are going to die | |
| from it we are facing a calamity beyond parallel in the modern | |
| world. If only 0.3 per cent of people who catch it die from it, | |
| this pandemic may yet turn out to be no worse than seasonal flu, | |
| which as I have explained here before is estimated by the US | |
| Centers for Disease Control to kill between 291,000 and 646,000 | |
| people a year without the world really noticing. According to | |
| John Hopkins University, which is collating fatalities data, | |
| 15,308 have died to date. | |
| So which is closer to the real situation, Italy�s experience or | |
| Germany�s? Various theories have been put forward for Germany�s | |
| low death rate: for example that many of those who have tested | |
| positive for Covid-19 are young people who had returned from | |
| skiing holidays in Italy. The age profile for those who have | |
| tested positive in Germany is certainly much lower than in | |
| Italy: a median of 46-years-old as opposed to 63 in Italy. Some | |
| have expressed the fear that young German skiers will slowly | |
| infect their parents and grandparents� generation, and that the | |
| death rate will steadily rise as the disease works its way | |
| through more vulnerable elderly people. | |
| Germany is almost certainly behind Italy in this epidemic. But | |
| the main difference between Germany and Italy lies in those | |
| countries� respective attitudes towards testing. Germany has | |
| carried out far more enthusiastic testing of the general | |
| population � there does not seem to be a central figure for | |
| this, but the German Doctors� Association has estimated that | |
| 200,000 people across the country have been tested. In Britain, | |
| it is 64,000 people. On the other hand, German hospitals do not | |
| routinely test for the presence of coronavirus in patients who | |
| are dying or who have died of other diseases. Italy, by | |
| contrast, is performing posthumous coronavirus tests on patients | |
| whose deaths might otherwise have been attributed to other | |
| causes. | |
| This matters hugely to the Case Fatality Rate for each country. | |
| As explained here before, CFR is not to be confused with the | |
| genuine Mortality Rate. The former is simply the number of | |
| deaths divided by the number of recorded cases. The latter is | |
| the number of deaths divided by the actual number of people who | |
| have been infected by the disease. Trouble is, nobody knows the | |
| latter figure because no country has tested its entire | |
| population to see who has or has had the disease. What we do | |
| know is that large numbers of people who have been confirmed as | |
| having the disease only have mild symptoms � 45 per cent | |
| according to Italy�s National Institute for Health. One in 10 | |
| have no symptoms at all. There must be many others who have been | |
| infected but haven�t been tested and therefore who do now show | |
| up as confirmed cases. | |
| It stands to reason that the more people who are tested, the | |
| more accurate a picture we will have of the mortality rate, the | |
| transmission rate and other metrics which will determine the | |
| eventual path of this pandemic. To underline the uncertainties | |
| behind the data from which policy is currently being made, the | |
| Royal Society of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine the other day | |
| estimated the number of people in Britain who already have or | |
| have had Covid-19 at between 6,000 and 23 million. That is a | |
| pretty broad spread with hugely different implications. If only | |
| 6,000 have the disease in Britain, socially-distancing the | |
| population or locking down society might have a purpose. If 23 | |
| million have the disease, it is pointless � it already has | |
| ripped its way through the population but without killing more | |
| than a tiny percentage. | |
| What we really need is a huge effort to test a large randomised | |
| sample of the population to see how widespread the infection is. | |
| Hopefully, that will soon happen. But in the meantime, I am | |
| minded to think that the more accurate picture of Covid-19 comes | |
| from the country which has conducted the most tests: Germany. | |
| WRITTEN BY | |
| άντε και | |
| γαμήσου! [/quote] | |
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