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| #Post#: 2384-------------------------------------------------- | |
| An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Kerry Date: October 6, 2025, 8:17 pm | |
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| I just heard someone mention "an eye for an eye" in an old radio | |
| show I was listening. I decided to check out the Jewish take on | |
| it; and after I found that, I decided to post it here. I do | |
| like what Rashi says most of the time. | |
| https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9882/showrashi/true | |
| His comment was: " If [a person] blinds his neighbor�s eye, he | |
| must give him the value of his eye, [which is] how much his | |
| price to be sold in the marketplace has decreased [without the | |
| eye]. So is the meaning of all of them [i.e., all the injuries | |
| enumerated in the following verses], but not the actual | |
| amputation of a limb, as our Rabbis interpreted it in the | |
| chapter entitled | |
| הַחוֹבֵל, he who | |
| assaults." | |
| How wrong can we be if we think that means anyone who blinds an | |
| eye of his neighbor has to have one of his own eyes put out. | |
| That would be barbaric and wouldn't help anyone. Money would | |
| probably help his neighbor more. | |
| I have also seen an interpretation that says we should | |
| understand it is limiting the damages. If you put out an eye, | |
| you cannot be made to pay damages for two eyes. A court could | |
| also reduce the penalty. It doesn't mean the penalty must be | |
| the value of an eye. It could be less if the court saw | |
| extenuating circumstances. | |
| How easy it can be to try to over-simplify things. Jesus was so | |
| right when he said this: | |
| Matthew 5:38 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for | |
| an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: | |
| 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever | |
| shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. | |
| Yes, they were still saying "an eye for an eye" in a vengeful | |
| way in that old radio program I heard. It made me laugh. Maybe | |
| I shouldn't have laughed, but I did. | |
| #Post#: 2385-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Kerry Date: October 8, 2025, 6:35 pm | |
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| I apologize if I'm reading the situation incorrectly; but I | |
| can't go on posting here. I'll frankly admit the stress is | |
| getting to me. Perhaps other members don't realize what they're | |
| doing is causing me stress; I would not want to accuse them | |
| since I can't read their minds; but I have enough stress in my | |
| life already . . . as I realize many others do. | |
| It seemed like a good idea at first for me to join. Perhaps my | |
| posts would inspire others to post more. That's not the case. | |
| If anything maybe others are avoiding posting because of me. I | |
| don't seem to be inspiring "unity" at any rate. So I'm leaving | |
| and wish you all well. | |
| #Post#: 2386-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Mike Waters Date: October 8, 2025, 9:03 pm | |
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| Tennison wrote "more things are wrought by prayer than this | |
| world dreams of". | |
| Nothing to do with prayer, except that Tennison's quote came to | |
| my mind just as I was thinking of the enormity of the fact that | |
| there are 'more things than this world dreams of' without | |
| relating them to prayer. | |
| And Kerry's closing of his account came right at the time when I | |
| was thinking deeply about Kerry's past claims to have been the | |
| reincarnation of Joseph-Antoine Boullan, the defrocked French | |
| Roman Catholic priest who had been (rightly or wrongly) | |
| accredited with being a 'Satanist' who sacrificed children as | |
| part of his 'Satanism'. | |
| As a result of those thoughts I had logged on to see if Kerry | |
| had in fact used his email address when he joined the Forum. | |
| And as soon as I logged-in there was Kerry's announcement that | |
| he was closing his membership. | |
| Was it all merely a coincident or was it not just part of the | |
| 'sixth sense' reality of life being but a part of the existence | |
| of an enormously intriguing web of interrelationships that is | |
| "more than this world dreams of"? | |
| Kerry would reckon so (and BTW he had indeed used it as his | |
| registration email). | |
| So here we are, back to just eleven members, many of whom have | |
| not even logged-in for months (some not even for 'years'). | |
| Shall we spring back to a faint resemblance of life, or shall we | |
| 'call it a wrap'. | |
| I will leave it as it is (or as it 'was') under the banner of | |
| "Where two or three are gathered .....". | |
| It will close itself down if it dwindles to just 'one'. | |
| #Post#: 2388-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Rita Date: October 9, 2025, 4:58 am | |
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| Personally I think it�s a shame he felt that he should leave, I | |
| have interacted on and off with Kerry throughout the years of | |
| forum life. Also conveying information regarding his email | |
| address is not fair Mike, this is placing it in the public | |
| domain, which you do not have that right to do. You complained | |
| about the one person who was posting continuously, which is a | |
| shame as I thought all were suppose to be welcome here. | |
| #Post#: 2389-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Mike Waters Date: October 9, 2025, 11:47 am | |
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| Rita, I have immediately deleted Kerry's full email address | |
| before anyone other than yourself has logged-in and had a chance | |
| to note it. | |
| Nevertheless every senior/full member upwards has access to a | |
| full range of 'permissions' enabling all to see each other's | |
| full email address. | |
| #Post#: 2390-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Rita Date: October 9, 2025, 12:49 pm | |
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| Hi Mike, | |
| Not sure that justifies you adding it to a thread that can be | |
| viewed by guests, regardless of the reality that not many people | |
| may be looking in. I merely conveyed my opinion on the matter, | |
| maybe being a moderator on another forum that would not have | |
| allowed it dictated that opinion. I was going to delete it | |
| myself as I am a mod here, but wasn�t sure you would like me | |
| doing that as, in theory, you above me. | |
| Such a shame he felt he couldn�t stay | |
| #Post#: 2391-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Mike Waters Date: October 9, 2025, 4:32 pm | |
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| [quote author=Rita link=topic=80.msg2390#msg2390 | |
| date=1760032186] | |
| I was going to delete it myself as I am a mod here, but wasn�t | |
| sure you would like me doing that as, in theory, you above me. | |
| [/quote] | |
| I'm a very tired (and very old) man. | |
| I hate being "above" anyone. | |
| It would give me great peace if you and I could reverse roles, | |
| before I very soon 'bite the dust' | |
| You've had the experience of starting up and running your own | |
| forum and been a moderator at that 'other' large forum, and | |
| presumably have the time now that you've retired | |
| How's about it? | |
| I would pay any costs involved and I feel sure Nicky would sort | |
| out what needs to be done. | |
| #Post#: 2392-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Rita Date: October 10, 2025, 1:35 am | |
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| [quote author=Mike Waters link=topic=80.msg2391#msg2391 | |
| date=1760045579] | |
| I'm a very tired (and very old) man. | |
| I hate being "above" anyone. | |
| It would give me great peace if you and I could reverse roles, | |
| before I very soon 'bite the dust' | |
| You've had the experience of starting up and running your own | |
| forum and been a moderator at that 'other' large forum, and | |
| presumably have the time now that you've retired | |
| How's about it? | |
| I would pay any costs involved and I feel sure Nicky would sort | |
| out what needs to be done. | |
| [/quote] | |
| Sorry Mike but I know nothing about running an actual forum - I | |
| have never had one of my own, and I struggle with tech things | |
| and understanding domains ect. Yes I do have moderating | |
| experience, but I was not on the admin team and they use to do | |
| things I had no access to, it is true that I do have the time. | |
| To be honest , right now, no one is really posting - Dave hasn�t | |
| been here for a while now. | |
| #Post#: 2393-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Rita Date: October 10, 2025, 5:21 am | |
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| I will give it some thought Mike xx | |
| I kind of gave up on forums a little while ago because being a | |
| moderator on Christian board was just so draining. I look back | |
| over the years of being there and wonder what was achieved. You | |
| couldn�t be real there, that actually was the difference here on | |
| one level but I always felt a disloyalty because of my official | |
| role on the other forum. That is no longer the case. | |
| So the answer right now is � I have no idea � | |
| We are all getting older, sadly, but that doesn�t mean we should | |
| be obsolete - I do have a desire to � teach � or � relay � | |
| lessons learned along the way, especially with inner healing but | |
| also with encounters with mental health, suicidal attempts, | |
| abortion, divorce, unfaithfulness, sexuality , abuse. That�s | |
| what is on my heart, but there isnt an audience for that kind of | |
| thing here , and yet when you asked me the question earlier | |
| today something resonated - but I am not sure why yet. Also a | |
| whole array of negatives about my abilities ! | |
| #Post#: 2394-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: An Eye for an Eye | |
| By: Helen Date: October 11, 2025, 9:11 am | |
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| [quote author=Rita link=topic=80.msg2393#msg2393 | |
| date=1760091717] | |
| I will give it some thought Mike xx | |
| I kind of gave up on forums a little while ago because being a | |
| moderator on Christian board was just so draining. I look back | |
| over the years of being there and wonder what was achieved. You | |
| couldn�t be real there, that actually was the difference here on | |
| one level but I always felt a disloyalty because of my official | |
| role on the other forum. That is no longer the case. | |
| So the answer right now is � I have no idea � | |
| We are all getting older, sadly, but that doesn�t mean we should | |
| be obsolete - I do have a desire to � teach � or � relay � | |
| lessons learned along the way, especially with inner healing but | |
| also with encounters with mental health, suicidal attempts, | |
| abortion, divorce, unfaithfulness, sexuality , abuse. That�s | |
| what is on my heart, but there isnt an audience for that kind of | |
| thing here , and yet when you asked me the question earlier | |
| today something resonated - but I am not sure why yet. Also a | |
| whole array of negatives about my abilities ! | |
| [/quote] | |
| Well I thought I�d pop on here as Dave said things look a wee | |
| bit as if things are �going sideways �. | |
| Never underestimate yourself Rita , just keep confidence in | |
| Gods leading. Just �be you� and share from your heart as you | |
| have done for 30 years! None of us �have anything� of ourselves | |
| , we just yield and �let God� �and He flows out ( or not, as the | |
| case may be! :D | |
| No big decisions to make , no rush�. Let peace reign , God | |
| leads , the Devil drives. | |
| All is good , all is well. ✝️ | |
| Love to all ..x | |
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