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Black Hammer
By: Avena_sativa Date: May 23, 2021, 2:59 am
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https://blackhammer.org/
Rightists describe this group as �anti-white�
False Leftists frequently deride their members for promoting the
correct assessment that Jews are indeed �white�
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Re: Black Hammer
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 23, 2021, 4:24 am
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https://blackhammer.org/principles-of-unity/
[quote]2. We believe all Colonized Proletariat are equal; no
matter gender, sexuality, age, skin tone, body type, location,
religion, language, mental/physical differences and/or
bi/multiracial identity.[/quote]
This is worrying.....
Yep, as I guessed:
https://blackhammer.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Constitution-of-Hammer-CIty.…
[quote]Article10. ​Hammer City is organized around the
principles of Democratic Centralism
...
The minority�s submission to the opinion of the majority. It is
the duty of every element in Hammer City to sponsor this
position and to defend and be fully committed to it[/quote]
They say they want to decolonize yet promote a form of
government spread around the world by the colonizers.....
They may be anti-"white" but they do not seem to be
anti-Western. All non-Western civilizations in history were
generally autocratic, and certainly none believed in qualitative
equality between individuals. They do not seem to want to return
to this. They also do not even seem to be aware that belief in
equality prevents believers from treating people as individuals.
Are you willing to be an entryist into this group to try to
shift their thinking over time?
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Re: Black Hammer
By: rp Date: May 23, 2021, 10:05 am
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I DMd @Avena_sativa about this. He said he was looking to expose
the group to our ideas from the outside, rather than formal
entryism by joining the organization. I advised him that he
could do this by encouraging them to stop using Western
terminology such as "Black", by pointing out it was "Whites" who
invented the category in the first place. He noted that this may
be possible, as they speak of "Black and Indigienous" as one
group (what we would call "non-Whites") against "Whites" as
opposed to promoting the "Black" category for its own sake. In
this regard, I would say they are different at least from the
"pro-Black" types, since it is impossible to be "pro-Black" and
anti-"White". What do you think?
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Re: Black Hammer
By: Avena_sativa Date: May 23, 2021, 4:40 pm
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Since the group is relatively new to the US leftist scene, I
intended to expose them to our ideologically consistent
anti-colonialist positions. I am wagering that if their
leadership was already willing to make the jump towards seeing
Jews as �white� without any True Left influence, other
anti-colonial positions such as abandoning Western ideals like
democracy should be possible (and even organically desired by
members of their organization). Most of their justifications for
those positions appear to be based on weak/inconsistent
ideological concepts such as �Maoism� that I suspect are merely
borrowed out of convenience from previous versions of
anti-�white� anti-colonial organizations. This leads me to
believe that simple exposure to True Leftist ideological
consistency with respect to anti-Western sentiment could be
sufficient to influence changes in those positions.
I hadn�t originally considered formally joining their group, but
they do seem to be actively recruiting new members.
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Re: Black Hammer
By: rp Date: May 23, 2021, 4:44 pm
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Another strategy to get them to ditch democracy popped up in my
mind: point out how most of the Cold-War era anti-colonial
revolutionaries of the "third world" world mostly
non-democratic.
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Re: Black Hammer
By: SirGalahad Date: May 23, 2021, 6:05 pm
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At first I was impressed by their anti-Jewish rhetoric, but I
have a few grievances
1. They don�t allow white-passing people to join. White-passing
people can only donate. I.e., they think that whiteness is
something you�re born with.
2. It�s affiliated with Gazi Kodzo, and it feels like that guy�s
sole purpose is to sour inter-ethnic relations with the kind of
stuff that he promulgates (which is probably why he just so
happened to be making the rounds all across the internet a few
years back). He�s also heavily preoccupied with African heritage
so he really doesn�t seem to be interested in giving up
blackness or bolstering genuine, non-ethnic American identity at
this point. Maybe he has changed since he last had the internet
spotlight, so I�ll give him the benefit of the doubt in that
area.
3. They need to hire a new person to run their social media.
Almost every single tweet they post is vitriolic. It�s not a
good first impression, because it doesn�t make them look like
very pleasant people to be around and associate with.
These are only criticisms though, rather than outright
condemnations. It might be fruitful to form a potential alliance
and expose them to our ideas, but I�m not holding my breath,
especially when Gazi Kodzo is a bigger fish than us, at least
for now
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Re: Black Hammer
By: guest5 Date: May 23, 2021, 10:34 pm
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This article is currently posted on the front page of the
website also:
CNN Works With The CIA To Concoct Scare Tactics Against Russia
[quote]This past Monday, u.s. intelligence pigs declassified a
15-page document entitled �Foreign Threats to the u.s. 2020
federal election�, which was immediately spoon-fed to CNN for a
�breaking� story. The colonial media and u.s. state department
are now working more closely together than ever before as the
empire is crumbling, ramping up their propaganda machine to sell
their blatant lies on �Russian interference� in the 2020
election.[/quote]
https://blackhammer.org/2021/03/21/cnn-works-with-the-cia-to-concoct-scare-tact…
They are setting themselves up for the Duginist mind-trap
also...
Our position on that article would obviously be: How is what the
CIA is doing a bad thing?
They seem to be anti-imperialist as most false-leftists of the
Abby Martin\John Pilger variety are. They do not believe Russia
interfered in the 2020 election, even with Trump's proven ties
to Russian Jewry and Putin himself?
I wouldn't be too surprised if they believe the CIA is evil just
because it collaborated with "nazis" during WWII either....
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Re: Black Hammer
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 24, 2021, 1:20 am
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"stop using Western terminology such as "Black""
The one I really can't stand is "African", which they
unfortunately use all the time unaware of its flaming
Eurocentrism. Please inform them that this is the only accurate
meaning of Africa:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Roman_Empire_-_Africa…
For comparison, this is Kush:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Kushite_heartland_and…
To call (for example) Azania "South Africa" is to let Westerners
get away with a level of arrogance equivalent to that if we were
to call (for example) Iceland "North Kush" (which of course we
don't because we are not Homo Hubris).
"This leads me to believe that simple exposure to True Leftist
ideological consistency with respect to anti-Western sentiment
could be sufficient to influence changes in those positions."
Please report back to let us know how well they receive your
message.
"They are setting themselves up for the Duginist mind-trap
also..."
Well spotted! This is their worldview:
[quote]The colonizers have already lost the war of ideas�Russia,
Iran, China, and Colonized Nations all grow more united by the
day. The influence of amerikkkan empire is slipping and its
pathetic attempts to use the media as a mouthpiece to soften our
revolutionary fire is doomed to fail.[/quote]
Are they unaware that Russia was a Western colonial power (not
to mention the one which has given back less of its stolen land
than any other Western colonial power following WWII)?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/russia-the-last-colonial-empire/
America, on the other hand, can easily be reinterpreted as a
victim of colonialism, which is already occurring as we speak,
with Columbus Day being discarded in favour of Indigenous
People's Day, etc.. America's true geopolitical destiny is to
sincerely replace Russia's current insincere position as the
ally of China and Iran. This is what Black Hammer as a US-based
group should be working towards, not tearing down America out of
petty spite (as Dugin wants to see happen).
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Re: Black Hammer
By: Avena_sativa Date: May 24, 2021, 10:21 am
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[quote]Please report back to let us know how well they receive
your message.[/quote]
After sharing a link to our forum and asking the Black Hammer
member who tried to recruit me to evaluate our own anti-colonial
activism projects (and thereby consider how our own ideological
positions differ), I still have not received any reply from the
member after a period longer than 24 hours. I will continue to
wait for a response
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Re: Black Hammer
By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 24, 2021, 10:08 pm
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If they come to us asking for our help, it would be appropriate
to simply point them to our information and waiting to answer
questions.
But in this case we are pitching to them, which means we have to
do more work. What I was expecting was at least a formal
proposal listing one by one the ideological inconsistencies
currently embedded in Black Hammer that would be cleared out by
adopting our ideas. Absent such a proposal, not only is it hard
for them to see what benefits we offer to them, but it is also
hard for me to see how well you yourself know the benefits we
offer to them!
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