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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: March 22, 2022, 12:46 am
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[quote]if America and China cooperate, Russia has absolutely no
choice but to join.[/quote]
What if America and China do not let Russia join?
"If the enemy had been Russia instead of communism, we could
have avoided the interventions against non-Western countries
such as Vietnam during the Cold War as well�"
And instead, we could have done some interventions against
Western countries, one in particular:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_and_the_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict
[quote]On May 17, 1948, three days after Israel declared
independence, the Soviet Union legally recognized it de jure,
becoming the first country to grant de jure recognition to the
Jewish state.[5][6] In addition to the diplomatic support, arms
from Czechoslovakia, part of the Soviet bloc, were crucial to
Israel in the 1948 Arab�Israeli War.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations#After_end_of_Sovi…
[quote]Relations between Israel and Russia were improved by
Israeli opposition to the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia,[18]
...
Vladimir Zhirinovsky visiting as part of a government delegation
said that he was concerned particularly about the economic
situation for the more than one million Russians living in
Israel, and that "Russia will never allow any kind of violence
against Israel".[21][22]
...
In 2011, Putin said: "Israel is, in fact, a special state to us.
It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of
the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking.
It's apparent that more than half of the population speaks
Russian".[28] Putin additionally claimed that Israel could be
considered part of the Russian cultural world, and contended
that "songs which are considered to be national Israeli songs in
Israel are in fact Russian national songs". He further stated
that he regarded Russian-speaking Israeli citizens as his
compatriots and part of the 'Russian world'.[29]
In April 2014, Israel took a neutral stance on the Russian
annexation of Crimea at the United Nations, angering U.S. State
Department and White House officials.[30] During Operation
Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that "I support Israel's
battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected".[31]
...
Relations between Israel and Russia further improved after the
Russian military intervention in Syria in September 2015. From
then until July 2018, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
and Putin met a total of 9 times.[33] In October 2015, Israel
and Russia held meetings to coordinate over Syria, and avoid
accidentally clashing or scrambling each other's communications
while operating over the country.[34][35]
In March 2016, Putin said the relations with Israel were special
and based "on friendship, mutual understanding and the long
common history". Putin stated: "Russia and Israel have developed
a special relationship. 1.5 million Israeli citizens come from
the former Soviet Union, they speak the Russian language, are
the bearers of Russian culture, Russian mentality. They maintain
relations with their relatives and friends in Russia, and this
make the interstate relations very special".[36] In a meeting
with Netanyahu in June 2016, Putin described Israel and Russia
as "unconditional allies" in "efforts to counter international
terrorism".[37]
Prior to and immediately after the 2016 United States
presidential election, Israel began lobbying the United States
to strike a deal with Russia over restricting the Iranian
military presence in Syria in exchange for removing sanctions
over Russian military action in Ukraine.[38] Donald Trump was
reportedly a favorite candidate for both Russia and Israel, as
Trump is widely seen, by both, as a strong supporter for Israel
yet friendly to Russia.[39] Both Israel and Russia are still
being accused for meddling in 2016 U.S. Election on helping
Trump to power, with Vladimir Putin is found to have exclusive
influence on Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump's political
decisions in Israel and the United States.[40][/quote]
Israel is a clear enemy of NATO. Indeed, every NATO country
should have invaded Israel after the USS Liberty incident.
#Post#: 12210--------------------------------------------------
Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest55 Date: March 22, 2022, 8:30 pm
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Brzezinski died in 2017.
Sullivan is not too far removed from Brzenzinski's position,
however:
[quote]This led to a discussion about China, which Sullivan said
would have to be part of any strategy to increase pressure on
North Korea. �I believe in the possibility that the U.S. and
China can cooperate on North Korea,� Sullivan said. �I don�t
think we�re there yet. This has to be one of the first and most
important pieces of business in the first summit between the
next president and [Chinese leader] Xi Jinping." More generally,
said Sullivan, the U.S. and China have the werewithal, with
responsible stewardship, to build a constructive relationship
beyond the day-to-day tensions. Sullivan said China has "not
fully lived up to its responsibilities as a world power," but
added that he remains optimistic that the U.S.-China
relationship would improve. �A strong, thriving China that is
playing by the rules is very much in the interests of the
U.S.�[/quote]
[quote]Nowhere is that more apparent than in the Middle East,
which in recent years has endured collapsing state structures
and the rise of jihadist groups, most notably the Islamic State.
Some Republican leaders have blamed the Obama Administration for
abandoning the region; some Democrats have suggested the U.S. is
still too inclined to intervene; the 2011 intervention in Libya
and Washington�s inability to stop the strife in Syria have come
in for criticism by both sides. On the Asia Society stage,
Sullivan argued for the imposition of safe zones in Syria,
provided and protected by the U.S., to safeguard refugees and
help in the delivery of humanitarian aid. He also said that for
all their differences, there was no solution that didn�t involve
the U.S. and Russia working together. As for Trump�s policy
prescriptions for the Middle East, Sullivan said these were
particularly hard to decipher, beyond his much-discussed
proposal to ban Muslim immigration. Trump has argued against
U.S. intervention, then called for a U.S. deployment of 30,000
soldiers to fight ISIS; he has suggested that Syria and ISIS
�fight it out�, but also that we should �let Russia fight ISIS�;
he has said he would tear up the nuclear deal with Iran, and
then that he would keep it in place but �police� it more
effectively.
Sullivan checked off what he called �three deeply interconnected
trends� in the Middle East: The collapse of state structures, a
virulent form of Islamic fundamentalism, and the geopolitical
struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. �The U.S. must grapple
with all three crises at the same time; solving the third,
however, can help with the first two � Any outcome must involve
a modus vivendi between Saudi Arabia and Iran�.[/quote]
https://asiasociety.org/jake-sullivan-asia
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: rp Date: March 22, 2022, 8:58 pm
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"White" (incl. Jewish) "Asia" experts are arrogant dickheads.
#Post#: 12219--------------------------------------------------
Re: Duginism
By: guest55 Date: March 22, 2022, 9:43 pm
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Putin's Anti-NATO Rampage Backfires As Neutral Countries Look
For Protection
[quote]Heather Conley, president of the German Marshall Fund,
talks about how Russian belligerence has made its non-NATO
neighbors nervous that they could be next after Ukraine, driving
them toward NATO even as Vladimir Putin tries to blame his
invasion of Ukraine on NATO expansion.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzShltmny3Q
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest55 Date: March 23, 2022, 12:53 am
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NATO holds massive military exercise in the arctic amid Ukraine
invasion
[quote]NATO is holding its largest military exercise in the
Arctic since the Cold War. NBC News� Courtney Kube reports from
Norway where U.S. Marines are joining around 30,000 troops from
more than two dozen countries for land, air and sea
drills.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whmXAfTRAbs
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest55 Date: March 23, 2022, 9:11 pm
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Pres. Biden Faces The 'Challenge Of A Generation' In Meeting
With NATO Allies
[quote]New York Times chief White House correspondent Peter
Baker and retired Marine Colonel Brendan Kearney discuss
President Biden�s efforts at the NATO summit this week to keep
allies on the same page in support for Ukraine. [/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHxV0CpXjSY
#Post#: 12300--------------------------------------------------
Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest55 Date: March 26, 2022, 9:36 pm
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Be Not Afraid
[quote]Be not afraid.
Under President Biden's steadfast leadership, we will remain
united.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xja-Yy8g5eM
Westerners better hope Trump doesn't get re-elected with all
this 'democracy is the greatest form of government ever created'
hype at every turn!
#Post#: 12307--------------------------------------------------
Re: China and United States Relations
By: Zhang Caizhi Date: March 27, 2022, 5:43 am
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On Facebook "Wang Wenbin Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeperson":
https://www.facebook.com/100102505138202/posts/447695367045579
[quote]On March 23, 1999 at 22:17, #NATO Secretary-General
announced the "initiation of air operations in the Federal
Republic of #Yugoslavia."[/quote]
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: guest55 Date: April 1, 2022, 12:16 pm
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All of Europe's Overlapping Security Alliances Explained - TLDR
News
[quote]Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, there's been a lot of
talk about NATO - the continent's preeminent security alliance.
However, NATO is far from the only military alliance on the
continent, so in this video we run through some of the biggest
and most interesting.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLmcYkjwL9w
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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
By: 90sRetroFan Date: April 6, 2022, 8:41 pm
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NATO must invade Russia ASAP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lhjv37aSQs
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