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The Left-Right Dichotomy
By: SirGalahad Date: January 6, 2025, 9:48 pm
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@90sRetroFan Apparently the terms �left� and �right� in a
political context, originate in the seating arrangements of the
French National Assembly during the French Revolution. The
pro-monarchy people were seated to the right, whereas the other
camp was seated to the left. By that metric, wouldn�t we be
�rightists�, since we�re anti-democratic and would therefore
have principally opposed the anti-monarchy camp at that time? I
obviously despise self-proclaimed rightists, but I�m just
talking in terms of literal semantics
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Re: The Left-Right Dichotomy
By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 7, 2025, 3:39 am
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"Apparently the terms �left� and �right� in a political context,
originate in the seating arrangements of the French National
Assembly during the French Revolution."
This has been answered before. Our usage of left and right
originates from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path
[quote]The terms have their origins in tantra: the right-hand
path (RHP, or dakṣiṇācāra) applied to
magical groups that follow specific ethical codes and adopt
social convention, while the left-hand path (LHP, or
vāmācāra) adopts the opposite attitude, breaking
taboos and abandoning set morality.
...
The occultist Dion Fortune considered Abrahamic religions to be
RHP.[5][/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vamachara
[quote]The converse term is dakṣiṇācāra
"right-hand path", which is used to refer not only to orthodox
sects but to modes of spirituality that engage in spiritual
practices that accord with Vedic injunction and are generally
agreeable to the status quo.[/quote]
"The pro-monarchy people were seated to the right, whereas the
other camp was seated to the left. By that metric, wouldn�t we
be �rightists�, since we�re anti-democratic and would therefore
have principally opposed the anti-monarchy camp at that time?"
We are indeed anti-democratic, but we would not have been
pro-monarchy in France in the way that the
post-French-Revolution rightists were, since it would have been
a Western monarchy, which we oppose:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/'royal'-family-hate-t…
The only monarchs we believe deserve to rule France immediately
following the French Rebolution would have been an Islamic ruler
(e.g. who could trace succession from an Andalusian dynasty),
which the post-French-Revolution rightists surely would have
endorsed. So no, we would not have been on the same side as the
post-French-Revolution rightists.
Pragmatically, if we around back then, we would have sided with
whichever side was relatively more anti-colonialist, which in
fact was the leftist side:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti#Haitian_Revolution_(1791%E2%80%931804)
[quote]Maximilien de Robespierre and the Jacobins, endorsed
abolition and extended it to all the French
colonies.[72][/quote]
even though they arrived at this conclusion via democratic
reasoning which we disagree with. In contrast:
[quote]Napol�on Bonaparte in 1802 sent an expedition of 20,000
soldiers and as many sailors[82] under the command of his
brother-in-law, Charles Leclerc, to reassert French
control.[/quote]
Nothing about pro-monarchism obliges us to support evil
monarchs. Pro-monarchism merely means that after supporting the
overthrow of an evil monarch, we advocate another monarch as the
replacement rather than switching to a different form on
government.
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