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| Social decolonization | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 10:24 pm | |
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| OLD CONTENT | |
| Another field of decolonization we need to be aware of concerns | |
| modes of present-day social interaction and interpersonal | |
| conduct, which is heavily based on Western social norms as a | |
| consequence of the colonial era. Please post whatever you notice | |
| around you in daily life which falls under this category. | |
| As a romantic, one thing that I have always intuitively despised | |
| is people dating again after widowhood. It is betrayal of the | |
| deceased spouse. I first noticed this phenomenon during | |
| childhood when I watched dating game shows on TV featuring | |
| widowed old people, which seemed like a celebration of a | |
| phenomenon which I had previously (naively) presumed should at | |
| the very least be considered shameful. But then I started doing | |
| research and realized that Western marriage vows tacitly endorse | |
| this behaviour by implying that the vow ends with the death of | |
| either spouse: | |
| www.theknot.com/content/traditional-wedding-vows-from-various-re | |
| ligions | |
| [quote]Basic Protestant Vows | |
| "I, ___, take thee, ___, to be my wedded husband/wife, to have | |
| and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for | |
| richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to | |
| cherish, till death do us part, according to God's holy | |
| ordinance; and thereto I pledge thee my faith [or] pledge myself | |
| to you." | |
| Episcopal | |
| "______, wilt thou have this woman/man to be thy wedded | |
| wife/husband to live together after God's ordinance in the Holy | |
| Estate of matrimony? Wilt thou love her/him? Comfort her/him, | |
| honor and keep her/him, in sickness and in health, and forsaking | |
| all others keep thee only unto her/him as long as you both shall | |
| live?" | |
| "In the name of God, I, ______, take you, ______, to be my | |
| wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for | |
| better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and | |
| health, to love and to cherish, until we are parted by death. | |
| This is my solemn vow." | |
| Methodist | |
| "Will you have this woman/man to be your wife/husband, to live | |
| together in holy marriage? Will you love her/him, comfort | |
| her/him, honor, and keep her/him in sickness and in health, and | |
| forsaking all others, be faithful to her/him as long as you both | |
| shall live?" | |
| "In the name of God, I, ______, take you, ______, to be my | |
| wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for | |
| better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in | |
| health, to love and to cherish, until we are parted by death. | |
| This is my solemn vow." | |
| Presbyterian | |
| "______, wilt thou have this woman/man to be thy wife/husband, | |
| and wilt thou pledge thy faith to him/her, in all love and | |
| honor, in all duty and service, in all faith and tenderness, to | |
| live with her/him, and cherish her/him, according to the | |
| ordinance of God, in the holy bond of marriage?" | |
| "I, ______, take you, ______, to be my wedded wife/husband, and | |
| I do promise and covenant, before God and these witnesses, to be | |
| your loving and faithful husband/wife, in plenty and want, in | |
| joy and in sorrow, in sickness and in health, as long as we both | |
| shall live." | |
| Lutheran | |
| "I take you, ______, to be my wife/husband from this day | |
| forward, to join with you and share all that is to come, and I | |
| promise to be faithful to you until death parts us." | |
| ... | |
| Catholic Wedding Vows | |
| "I, ___, take you, ___, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and | |
| to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for | |
| richer, for poorer, in sickness and health, until death do us | |
| part." | |
| ... | |
| Eastern Orthodox Wedding Vows | |
| Many branches of the Orthodox church use silent vows during the | |
| ceremony -- an introspective prayer in which the couple promises | |
| to be loyal and loving to each other. In the Russian tradition, | |
| however, vows are spoken out loud: | |
| "I, ___, take you, ___, as my wedded wife/husband and I promise | |
| you love, honor and respect; to be faithful to you, and not to | |
| forsake you until death do us part. So help me God, one in the | |
| Holy Trinity and all the Saints."[/quote] | |
| Wtf? If love ends with physical death of the (supposed) beloved, | |
| it was never love at all! Yet the above Western barbarism is | |
| what gets recited millions of times per day, now even in secular | |
| weddings in originally non-Western (but Westernized) countries, | |
| taken for granted as the standard format. This is unacceptable. | |
| I have also encountered numerous instances of fictional | |
| portrayals of characters starting new "romances" (oxymoron) | |
| after widowhood, cast in a positive light. (And in real life it | |
| is even more degenerate, with Westerners openly talking like: "I | |
| would definitely pursue [name] if my husband/wife died." even | |
| while their spouses are still alive!) | |
| In contrast, non-Western civilizations at least culturally | |
| looked down on such behaviour (despite its inevitable occurrence | |
| in practice due to the inferiority of the majority of all | |
| historical populations), and instead venerate (at least in | |
| fiction) the opposite behavious ie. continuing fidelity to the | |
| deceased spouse. This is what we need to get back to. | |
| WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE! | |
| --- | |
| On that, I never understood how someone could have more than one | |
| romantic companion in general. I know a sizable amount of people | |
| who've had at least five "girlfriends"/"boyfriends" throughout | |
| their lives, and I know that this isn't uncommon... Like how do | |
| people split up all that lifeforce and feeling? At what point | |
| does having a relationship with someone just become a mere | |
| hobby? | |
| Also: strip clubs need to be purified with fire. Another Western | |
| tradition I know of is when a Groom goes to a stripclub the | |
| night before getting married in a "bachelor party". This comedy | |
| skit that I watched a few years back pretty much sums it up: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuFsfdGrYw | |
| --- | |
| "I never understood how someone could have more than one | |
| romantic companion in general." | |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogamy#Serial_monogamy | |
| [quote]A pair of humans may remain sexually exclusive, or | |
| monogamous, until the relationship has ended and then each may | |
| go on to form a new exclusive pairing with a different partner. | |
| This pattern of serial monogamy is common among people in | |
| Western cultures.[90][91] | |
| ... | |
| in order to monopolize periods of more than one female�s | |
| reproductive life span without being considered polygamous and | |
| thus breaking social norms of a monogamous society, males try to | |
| remarry women younger than themselves. A study done in 1994 | |
| found a significant difference between ages of remarried men and | |
| women because the men have a longer reproductive | |
| window.[92][93][/quote] | |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keturah | |
| [quote]Keturah (Hebrew: | |
| קְטוּרָה, Ktura, | |
| possibly meaning "incense"[1]) was a concubine[2] and wife[3] of | |
| the Biblical patriarch Abraham. According to the Book of | |
| Genesis, Abraham married Keturah after the death of his first | |
| wife, Sarah. Abraham and Keturah had six sons.[3][/quote] | |
| I remember watching Titanic in which we are sold a supposed | |
| story of true love, and yet we are told that after Jack died | |
| Rose went and married some other guy, which totally cheapened | |
| the main arc in my mind. (From a more detached perspective it's | |
| still a good movie, though, in the sense that it accurately | |
| reflects colonial-era Westerners' low standards of romance and | |
| their own obliviousness to this. The only question is whether or | |
| not this was intentional. (Considering that Cameron himself | |
| married five times, probably not.)) | |
| What annoys me is when rightists claim that romantic love is | |
| exclusive(!!!) to Western civilization..... | |
| "how do people split up all that lifeforce and feeling?" | |
| I have always maintained that anyone who reproduces with their | |
| supposed romantic partner does not truly love the partner, as | |
| attention would have to be thereafter diverted to the children. | |
| (This is one example of how romanticism complements Gnosticism.) | |
| "Another Western tradition I know of is when a Groom goes to a | |
| stripclub the night before getting married in a "bachelor | |
| party"." | |
| Yes, but at least this one isn't glorified in art (at least as | |
| far as I have encountered). The comedy skit that you posted | |
| portrays it as is something to laugh at, which is where it | |
| should remain. | |
| "strip clubs need to be purified with fire." | |
| There is a difference between despising something and believing | |
| it should be made illegal. The latter, being violent, requires a | |
| much higher standard of justification, specifically that it is | |
| retaliation to an initiated violence. Strip clubs do not | |
| initiate violence so long as everything that goes on there is | |
| voluntary. To make illegal what is not violent is | |
| totalitarianism, a charge which we as autocrats must take | |
| especial care to avoid. | |
| I have no problem with strip clubs existing, as they can | |
| function as a quality filter by observing who its customers are. | |
| For example, anyone with dignity would surely cancel a marriage | |
| if the potential spouse was willing to go to a strip club the | |
| night before. But if strip clubs did not exist, the same person | |
| would be denied the information that their potential spouse was | |
| someone who would do this (because the option to do so would be | |
| unavailable), and thus end up erroneously marrying someone who | |
| would have been rejected if only more information had been | |
| available. | |
| --- | |
| "The positive views on polygamy is not restricted to Western | |
| civilisation, nor is re-marriage after death restricted to | |
| Christianity. In Islam, for instance, polygamy is condoned" | |
| Are you here solely to waste my time? Polygamy, like it or not, | |
| is at least candid. Serial monogamy, in contrast, is an | |
| irreverent mockery of what monogamy is supposed to be. Multiple | |
| simultaneous spouses of the same person at least get to know for | |
| sure that their spouse does not love (any of) them exclusively, | |
| and hence respond accordingly based on accurate information | |
| (same as the person whose spouse goes to a strip club bachelor | |
| party). There is no deception going on. On the other hand, the | |
| spouse of a serial monogamist is successfully fooled until death | |
| into believing their spouse loves them exclusively, and hence | |
| respond lifelong based on an incomplete impression. Which is | |
| worse? | |
| Moreover, voluntary monogamy in a society where polygamy is | |
| legal is of greater romantic significance than monogamy in a | |
| society where polygamy is illegal, as the monogamous couple in | |
| the former case can confirm that their spouse is not merely | |
| tolerating monogamy for the sake of avoiding legal | |
| repercussions. For this reason, a society in which polygamy is | |
| legal is actually more romance-friendly than a society in which | |
| polygamy is illegal. (So here too we see how the Western | |
| civilization has been diluting romance around the world by | |
| promoting the outlawing of polygamy!) | |
| --- | |
| I've never dated, or been in a relationship. I've always been | |
| repulsed by both notions. I would make an exception for someone | |
| very special, and if that person died before me I'd probably | |
| never do either again. | |
| When I hear most westerners talk about relationships it | |
| literally makes me physically nauseous! | |
| --- | |
| Parents with low self-esteem condition their offspring to be | |
| social Westerners: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WD_lNadkm4 | |
| Watching the children - victims of their colonized parents and | |
| the neocon teachers - in their colonial-era Western outfits | |
| affecting colonial-era Western mannerisms is just depressing. | |
| Handshakes are notoriously unhygienic. Knives and forks are for | |
| meat-heavy diets. And the walking style is a bad joke. | |
| That teacher being interviewed is bullshitting, of course. Since | |
| when did "abroad" mean exclusively the West? Why must | |
| "adaptation" to "an international environment" be Eurocentric? | |
| Where are the classes on Islamic etiquette, for example? And | |
| even if such classes existed, would these same parents pay for | |
| them? (We all know the answers.) | |
| True Left employers/contractors/clients/etc. should wherever | |
| possible deliberately reject prospective | |
| employees/businesses/etc. who display Western etiquette in | |
| favour of those who do not. WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE! | |
| --- | |
| More dripping Eurocentrism: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow7KcAYtmSw | |
| All civilizations around the world have their own locally | |
| developed domestic help style dating back to ancient times. Yet | |
| formerly colonized peoples overwhelmingly want to perpetuate the | |
| Western style even in their own countries. This is becoming so | |
| predictable..... | |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler#The_modern_butler | |
| [quote]MacPherson emphasises that the number of wealthy people | |
| in China has increased particularly, creating in that country a | |
| high demand for professional butlers who have been trained in | |
| the European butlering tradition.[15] There is also increasing | |
| demand for such butlers in other Asian countries, India, and the | |
| petroleum-rich Middle East.[16][17][/quote] | |
| WTF is wrong with them all?!?! | |
| They should all watch this: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x02enMJDeKM | |
| #Post#: 2371-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Social decolonization | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 19, 2020, 10:32 pm | |
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| OLD CONTENT contd. | |
| news.yahoo.com/japan-set-celebrate-emperor-naruhitos-090018643.h | |
| tml | |
| [quote]TOKYO (AP) � Japan is abuzz ahead of a ceremony Tuesday | |
| marking Emperor Naruhito's ascension to the Chrysanthemum | |
| Throne. | |
| ... | |
| Tuesday's ceremony allows Naruhito to proclaim himself Japan's | |
| 126th emperor in a ritual dating back to the 7th century. | |
| Historians say the modern enthronement rituals are largely meant | |
| to allow the government to showcase the monarchy to win public | |
| support and to preserve the country's cultural heritage. | |
| Western-style banquets and a procession have been added to "to | |
| bolster national prestige and influence. The Imperial family's | |
| own events used to be more modest," said historian and monarchy | |
| expert Eiichi Miyashiro, who is also a journalist.[/quote] | |
| https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of… | |
| --- | |
| A small win: | |
| www.newidea.com.au/meghan-markle-wants-prince-harry-to-give-up-l | |
| ong-time-hobby | |
| [quote]The Duchess of Sussex is said to have banned her husband | |
| from hunting - a sport he and several members of the royal | |
| family enjoy. | |
| Speaking with the UK's Radio Times, friend of the Sussexes Dr | |
| Jane Goodall revealed Meghan holds considerable influence over | |
| Harry. | |
| When the publication indicated to the Dr that Harry and his | |
| brother Prince William are champions of the natural world, she | |
| interjected: "Yes except they hunt and shoot."[/quote] | |
| Yes, that is how Westerners do it - hunt everything except | |
| "endangered species", while forcing "endangered species" to | |
| reproduce until they become populous enough for Westerners to | |
| start hunting them again without fear of species extinction: | |
| https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-susta… | |
| [quote]However, his hunting days may already have come to an | |
| end, as he's known to have already given up going on one hunt | |
| for the sake of his marriage. | |
| It has been claimed that Prince Harry did not participate in the | |
| traditional Boxing Day royal family hunt two years ago as he did | |
| not want to �upset� Meghan Markle. | |
| The family usually shoot pheasants, partridges, and sometimes | |
| ducks on their 8000-hectare estate in Norfolk. | |
| A source told The Sun at the time: �Harry loves [hunting] and | |
| has always been out there on Boxing Day. | |
| �But if it means breaking with long-standing royal traditions to | |
| avoid upsetting [Meghan], so be it. | |
| �It�s fair to say that there are some pretty stunned faces | |
| around here.� They added.[/quote] | |
| --- | |
| Is Meghan a non-Westerner? I have seen a great degree of racist | |
| vitriol directed toward her from rightists... | |
| --- | |
| She seems to have been brought up in Counterculture thinking to | |
| some degree, but more information is required to say for sure. | |
| --- | |
| Update: | |
| www.thesun.co.uk/news/11557382/prince-harry-flogs-rifles-please- | |
| meghan/ | |
| [quote]PRINCE Harry has flogged his handmade hunting rifles | |
| after giving up bloodsports to please wife Meghan. | |
| A fellow hunter bought the pair of prized Purdey firearms, | |
| thought to be worth at least �50,000, in a private deal. | |
| Harry learnt to shoot as a child and once killed a one-ton | |
| buffalo. | |
| ... | |
| Harry shot dead the water buffalo in �Argentina in 2004 during | |
| his gap year � and he and William hunted wild boar in Spain in | |
| 2014. | |
| And in 2017, while engaged to Meghan, Harry and his friends | |
| killed 15 wild boar in Germany.[/quote] | |
| Let's think for a moment: if you are sincerely against hunting, | |
| would you sell hunting equipment to other hunters so that they | |
| can use it to hunt? (Surely it would be more appropriate to | |
| destroy it, preferably in public?) | |
| This proves that Harry was not just a prisoner of Windsor | |
| upbringing. He is genetic trash merely being pressured to behave | |
| contrary to his blood memory. | |
| --- | |
| So Kim has reappeared in public after weeks of uncertainty. But | |
| this brings me to another point. He reappeared to do a | |
| ribbon-cutting ceremony: | |
| [img] | |
| https://images.wsj.net/im-182903?width=1280&size=1.33333333[/img] | |
| Here is the history of ribbon-cutting: | |
| tedium.co/2018/05/01/ribbon-cuttings-ceremonial-scissors-history | |
| / | |
| [quote]The earliest examples of ribbon-cutting ceremonies I can | |
| find are in relation to boat or dock christenings, around the | |
| late 19th century in the United Kingdom. These christening | |
| ceremonies, which generally involved the smashing of wine | |
| bottles against the ship and at times involved ribbon, but not | |
| necessarily the cutting of said ribbon, as highlighted in a | |
| passage from Nathaniel Hawthorne�s English Notebooks, in which | |
| the bottle was simply thrown. Christening ceremonies go back far | |
| longer than ribbon-cutting ceremonies, but the wine bottle | |
| smashing only became a thing about a century before. | |
| One particularly notable early incident involving the cutting of | |
| a ribbon, involving Alexandra of Denmark, then the Princess of | |
| Wales, involved the opening of Alexandra Dock in | |
| Liverpool.[/quote] | |
| In short, Western. So I have this to give to Kim to mark his | |
| official return to public life: | |
| https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of… | |
| What good are your non-Western clothes (for which you do deserve | |
| some credit) if you are going to wear them to participate in | |
| Western rituals? | |
| #Post#: 2441-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Western civilization is a health hazard | |
| By: guest5 Date: November 23, 2020, 1:21 am | |
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| Japan: The Age Of Social Withdrawal | |
| [quote]As the coronavirus pandemic plunged the world into | |
| lockdown, for many in Japan the social isolation that was | |
| imposed was nothing out of the ordinary. Why have so many in | |
| Japan become socially withdrawn - even before the | |
| pandemic?[/quote] | |
| [quote]The Japanese government estimates that around one million | |
| Japanese people live in social isolation. In Tokyo, 54-year old | |
| Kenji lives a reclusive life because he feels out of place in | |
| Japanese society: 'It's a sense or feeling that you shouldn't be | |
| here.' Meanwhile, in Ibaraki prefecture, another reclusive man | |
| searches for a job - but 14 years of withdrawal makes this a | |
| challenge. 'Networks, connections and experience... These are | |
| things that matter in Japan'. Children, too, are withdrawing, | |
| overwhelmed by a strict schooling system - which has led to NGOs | |
| setting up alternative educational institutions. 'Telling them | |
| to go back to work or go back to school straight away is not the | |
| way,' explains a leader of one education centre.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uhyM7gN50 | |
| [quote]Along with australia, the US, Canada and western Europe. | |
| Generally Japan is considered western in this regard. ... Japan | |
| has it's own rich history, like many countries, so despite | |
| western influence, Japan is still Japanese. Japan has always | |
| adapted the outside world to itself retaining it's | |
| identity.[/quote] | |
| https://www.quora.com/Is-Japan-western | |
| [quote]Japan, which had isolated itself from international | |
| politics in the Tokugawa period (1600-1868), enters an | |
| international system of the late 1800s where [s]imperialism[/s] | |
| colonialism dominates.[/quote] | |
| [quote]Reform-minded samurai, reflecting the enormous changes | |
| that have taken place in the preceding Tokugawa period, effect | |
| political change. They launch the reform movement under the | |
| guise of restoring the emperor to power, thereby eliminating the | |
| power of the shogun, or military ruler, of the Tokugawa period. | |
| The emperor's reign name is Meiji; hence the title, "Meiji | |
| Restoration" of 1868. | |
| The Japanese carry out this modernization by very deliberate | |
| study, borrowing, and adaptation of Western political, military, | |
| technological, economic, and social forms � repeating a pattern | |
| of deliberate borrowing and adaptation seen previously in the | |
| classical period when Japan studied Chinese civilization | |
| (particularly in the 7th century to 8th century).[/quote] | |
| http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm | |
| #Post#: 2446-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Social decolonization | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 23, 2020, 3:31 am | |
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| "The Japanese carry out this modernization by very deliberate | |
| study, borrowing, and adaptation of Western political, military, | |
| technological, economic, and social forms" | |
| And this is what happened to its population as a result: | |
| http://aryanism.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/japan-population.png | |
| If Japan can get back to its 1700s population, I guarantee | |
| people will feel less withdrawn. If it can toss out its social | |
| Westernization, they will feel even better. They should keep the | |
| Counterculture stuff, of course (the best part begins at 3:23): | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DSZBgJVz30 | |
| #Post#: 4384-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Social decolonization | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 21, 2021, 9:12 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Nice! | |
| https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/prince-william-reportedly-sad-shocked-145100370.… | |
| [quote]Last week, Buckingham Palace released its statement about | |
| Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal exit becoming | |
| permanent�and what that meant for their remaining titles and | |
| patronages. Specifically, Harry is being stripped of his | |
| honorary military titles and both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex | |
| are being removed from their official royal patronages. | |
| ... | |
| In response, Harry and Meghan released a brief (and | |
| widely-interpreted as tense) statement of their own. "As | |
| evidenced by their work over the past year, The Duke and Duchess | |
| of Sussex remain committed to their duty and service to the U.K. | |
| and around the world, and have offered their continued support | |
| to the organizations they have represented regardless of | |
| official role. We can all live a life of service. Service is | |
| universal," a spokesperson for the couple said. | |
| Harry and Meghan's statement has reportedly upset some in royal | |
| circles�including Harry's brother, Prince William. According to | |
| a Sunday Times report, William is "really sad and genuinely | |
| shocked" by the statement, which another source close to the | |
| royal family described as "petulant and insulting to the Queen." | |
| Explaining the outrage the Sussexes' statement has stirred up | |
| within royal circles, another source close to the situation | |
| said, "You don�t answer the Queen back�it�s just not done." | |
| According to Page Six, William isn't alone and other members of | |
| the royal family are also "stunned" not just by the fact that | |
| Harry and Meghan publicly replied to the Palace's statement, but | |
| by the tone of the statement their spokesperson shared.[/quote] | |
| Answering back to Elizabeth is just the beginning. One day | |
| Elizabeth or her heirs will have to answer for all the violence | |
| ever committed by the British Empire on their colonial victims. | |
| #Post#: 4458-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Social decolonization | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: February 25, 2021, 3:25 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Time to revisit an issue mentioned earlier. Our enemies are | |
| claiming monogamy as Western. No, outlawing polygamy (thereby | |
| driving it underground, thus adding deception into the issue) is | |
| Western: | |
| https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2021/02/whites-invented-family-10.html | |
| [quote]Whites invented monogamy and therefore they must be | |
| credited with inventing the family[/quote] | |
| Monogamous couples existed in all civilizations. The difference | |
| is that non-Western civilizations never outlawed polygamy, | |
| because they at least understood that the state should stay out | |
| of people's private lives. | |
| Polygamy involving consent of all parties involved involves no | |
| violence. Prohibiting non-violent behaviour is initiated | |
| violence. Therefore prohibiting polygamy is initiated violence. | |
| Therefore Western civilization initiates more violence (no | |
| surprises!) than non-Western civilizations on this issue also. | |
| In societies where polygamy is legal, someone who wants a | |
| monogamous marriage can require a potential spouse to sign a | |
| legally binding contract stipulating that they are to be each | |
| other's only spouse. Such contracts do not affect anyone else, | |
| so those who prefer a polygamous marriage can also have the | |
| arrangement they prefer. By crudely outlawing polygamy wholesale | |
| as Western civilization does), however, people who prefer | |
| polygamy are oppressed. | |
| Again I must repeat that I personally look down on polygamists, | |
| but firstly looking down on someone is no reason to initiate | |
| violence against them, and secondly I would rather polygamists | |
| be out in the open so that I know whom to look down on. Under | |
| Western civilization, actual polygamists hide their extramarital | |
| affairs and feign monogamy in public, thus making it harder to | |
| spot (and revere) the genuine monogamists. Thus Western | |
| civilization screws up everything. As usual. | |
| Duchesne even inadvertently admits that monogamy is oppressive: | |
| [quote]young females will have a larger pool of males to choose | |
| husbands from than would be available in a society where | |
| monogamy was the law.[/quote] | |
| In other words, outlawing monogamy reduces female choice. (This | |
| by itself is already a concession to my long-held assertion that | |
| Western civilization is more sexist than non-Western | |
| civilizations.) | |
| And Duchesne openly admits that Western civilization is | |
| oppressive: | |
| [quote]All other peoples on the earth remained attached to their | |
| psychological predisposition for polygamy until the monogamous | |
| West awoke them from their biological slumber with their | |
| incredible economic success and military expansion, forcing them | |
| to adopt monogamous institutions.[/quote] | |
| No, all other peoples remained attached to their unrestricted | |
| ability to choose either monogamy or polygamy according to their | |
| own individual preferences until the violently | |
| polygamy-outlawing West violently colonized them. | |
| Duchesne even lets us know what he really cares about: | |
| [quote]In chapter 8 he further observed "that monogamous | |
| marriage norms...create a range of social and psychological | |
| effects that give the societies that possess them a big edge in | |
| competition against other groups" (263).[/quote] | |
| Yes, outlawing polygamy is a highly effective tribal strategy. | |
| Yes, by outlawing polygamy, Western civilization gave the | |
| "white" tribe the edge required to colonize around the world. | |
| This is what makes Western civilization uniquely inferior. | |
| [quote]While Greek monogamy limited each male citizen to a | |
| single wife, it was considered acceptable to import sex slaves, | |
| and wealthy men did. This approach is interesting because it | |
| addresses one of the fundamental social dilemmas posed by | |
| polygynous marriage systems, by keeping local women available to | |
| poor men for marriage (avoiding the problems created by poor | |
| unmarried males) while at the same time allowing rich men broad | |
| access to "imported" women.[/quote] | |
| This also happened during the colonial era. To rephrase, Western | |
| civilization oppresses: | |
| 1) "white" women by forcing them to marry poor "white" men; | |
| 2) "non-white" women by forcing them to be sex slaves for rich | |
| "white" men so that the rich "white" men would leave more | |
| "white" women for the poor "white" men; | |
| 3) "non-white" men by turning them into the new class of poor | |
| unmarried males (taking the place of the poor "white" men). | |
| Western civilization is basically extremely violent | |
| redistribution of sexual resources to the ultimate advantage of | |
| poor "white" men. (Guess which group is the predominant rightist | |
| demographic!) | |
| [quote]Solon�s laws provided for "state-subsidized brothels | |
| staffed with cheap and therefore readily available female | |
| prostitutes" in order to alleviate the polygynous inclination of | |
| men. This fact does not negate the monogamous character of | |
| ancient Greece since children born outside a monogamous marriage | |
| were not recognized as biological members of the household and | |
| were excluded from any inheritance. Prostitution and concubinage | |
| was "a substitute for polygyny by the wealthy".[/quote] | |
| Let's also consider: if you were someone's wife, would you | |
| prefer your husband to visit prostitutes (who also have sex with | |
| many other men) or have other wives whom you can at least try to | |
| ensure do not have sex with other men? On STD considerations | |
| alone, the answer is obvious. | |
| Nevertheless, despite his very own words exposing utter Western | |
| inferiority at every turn, Duchesne has the hubris to sum up: | |
| [quote]Europeans were the only people in history to rise above | |
| the evolved animalistic impulses for polygamy to which the other | |
| races of the world remained entrapped until they were taught | |
| otherwise by white men.[/quote] | |
| #Post#: 4714-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Cancel Culture | |
| By: guest5 Date: March 10, 2021, 8:28 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Piers Morgan's ROYAL MELTDOWN Over Meghan & Harry Interview | |
| [quote]The Duchess of Sussex told Oprah Winfrey in a bombshell | |
| interview Sunday that the monarchy had �concerns and | |
| conversations� during her pregnancy with son Archie about the | |
| baby�s skin color. It was suggested to her husband Prince Harry | |
| that Archie�s being �too brown� could be a problem, she said. | |
| The family denied Archie the title of prince ― granted to | |
| Prince William and Duchess Kate�s boys George and Louis ― | |
| and refused to grant the child a high level of security, the | |
| couple said."[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxbwVyrwMi4 | |
| Meghan And Harry Tell-All In Shocking Interview With Oprah | |
| [quote]In a wide-ranging Sunday interview with Oprah Winfrey, | |
| Meghan Markle and Prince Harry revealed a troubling allegation | |
| about the royal family's views about race.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkJG0SKM2z4 | |
| Ben Shapiro Says Meghan Markle Lied About Royal Racism | |
| [quote]Ben Shapiro says Meghan Markle lied about racism in the | |
| Royal Family. [/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPEonEuWRk&list=TLPQMTEwMzIwMjECobLlTqUSUw&ind… | |
| Meghan complained to ITV about Piers Morgan's comments | |
| [quote]Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, made a formal complaint to | |
| British broadcaster ITV relating to Piers Morgan's comments | |
| about her mental health, CNN has learned. | |
| ITV announced on that Morgan would leave the program he hosted, | |
| "Good Morning Britain," after he cast doubt on whether Meghan | |
| had suicidal thoughts, a major revelation from her blockbuster | |
| interview with Oprah Winfrey. | |
| "Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is | |
| the time to leave Good Morning Britain," ITV said on Tuesday. | |
| "ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add." | |
| CNN understands that Meghan's complaint to ITV concerned the | |
| impact Morgan's comments could have on others and how it could | |
| degrade the seriousness of mental health issues. The complaint | |
| did not relate to the personal nature of Morgan's | |
| attacks.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTuzx3AY2Lg&list=TLPQMTEwMzIwMjECobLlTqUSUw&ind… | |
| That settles it for me, I feel Meghan has more noble character | |
| than everyone else combined in this post. Too bad she is not a | |
| Queen of a country somewhere!!! Meghan would probably be one of | |
| the greats. | |
| I also purposely put Chris Cuomo's take under the above | |
| sentence.... | |
| Cuomo: Why Meghan's interview struck a nerve with the right | |
| [quote]CNN's Chris Cuomo discusses with Van Jones and TheGrio's | |
| Natasha Alford why Oprah Winfrey's interview with Duchess of | |
| Sussex Meghan has struck a nerve with many | |
| conservatives.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74C_zkde9CM | |
| The only thing I agree with the host John with in the first | |
| segment is his being "fascinated by what other people are | |
| fascinated by" comment. I can relate to this, I am also | |
| fascinated by what others are fascinated by. | |
| Support pours in after Meghan Markle's allegations against the | |
| royal family | |
| [quote]Many people are expressing support for Meghan Markle and | |
| Prince Harry after their explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey, | |
| during which Markle shared the racist treatment she faced by the | |
| royal family. | |
| #MeghanMarkle[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcui8Dt5R1A | |
| #Post#: 4781-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Social decolonization | |
| By: rp Date: March 13, 2021, 1:14 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Maharaj Padamanabh Singh, Indian "Prince", participates in | |
| Western equestrian sports: | |
| https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/81/99/83819952952cf1b4c71246b0380c5a3b.jpg | |
| Wears western clothing: | |
| [img width=1280 | |
| height=768] | |
| https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/13/14/20958622-0-image-a-94_1573655866479.… | |
| https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7680911/Maharaja-Padmanabh-Singh-Jai… | |
| #Post#: 6416-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Diplomatic decolonization | |
| By: guest5 Date: May 16, 2021, 12:18 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Māori Lawmaker Performs Haka, Defends Indigenous Rights | |
| [quote]This lawmaker was asked to sit down after defending | |
| Indigenous rights in NZ parliament � so he performed a haka | |
| instead.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27jpv7nEIo | |
| #Post#: 7480-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Social decolonization | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: July 9, 2021, 11:51 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Homophobia in socially colonized "New China": | |
| https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57759480 | |
| [quote]A recent crackdown on LGBT accounts on Tencent's popular | |
| WeChat platform has divided Chinese social media. | |
| Dozens of such accounts, mostly run by university students, had | |
| been deleted on Tuesday night - sparking fears of a tightening | |
| control over gay content.[/quote] | |
| Contrast with the true (pre-colonial) China: | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_China | |
| [quote]The earliest records of homosexuality and same-sex | |
| relations in China date from the Shang dynasty era (c. 16th to | |
| 11th century BCE). The term luan feng was used to describe | |
| homosexuality. No records of lesbian relations exist, however. | |
| In this time, homosexuality was largely viewed with indifference | |
| and usually treated with openness.[9] | |
| ... | |
| Homosexuality and homoeroticism were common and accepted during | |
| the Han dynasty (202 BCE - 220 CE). | |
| ... | |
| Writings from the Liu Song dynasty era (420�479 CE) claim that | |
| homosexuality was as common as heterosexuality. It is said that | |
| men engaged so often in homosexual activity, that unmarried | |
| women became jealous.[3] | |
| ... | |
| Chinese homosexuals did not experience persecution which would | |
| compare to that experienced by homosexuals in Christian Europe | |
| during the Middle Ages, and in some areas, particularly among | |
| the merchant classes, same-sex love was particularly | |
| appreciated. There was a stereotype in the late Ming dynasty | |
| that the province of Fujian was the only place where | |
| homosexuality was prominent,[14] but Xie Zhaozhe (1567�1624) | |
| wrote that "from Jiangnan and Zhejiang to Beijing and Shanxi, | |
| there is none that does not know of this fondness."[14] European | |
| Jesuit missionaries such as Matteo Ricci took note of what they | |
| deemed "unnatural perversions", distressed over its often open | |
| and public nature.[15][/quote] | |
| So how did China become homophobic? The last sentence in the | |
| above passage offers a clue. Answer: | |
| [quote]Heteronormativity and intolerance of gays and lesbians | |
| became more mainstream through the Westernization efforts of the | |
| early Republic of China.[5][/quote] | |
| https://smallimg.pngkey.com/png/small/129-1297667_clip-free-stock-collection-of… | |
| When will China stop blindly following Western civilization FFS? | |
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