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| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: guest55 Date: April 13, 2022, 10:35 pm | |
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| Trivia: Many Polish folk songs are in Lydian mode.... | |
| #Post#: 12899-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: rp Date: April 19, 2022, 3:05 am | |
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| Westernized "Asian" YouTuber makes video claiming that Russia | |
| and China have no border disputes, and that China can't claim | |
| Outer Manchuria because it is "ethnically and culturally | |
| Russian/Jewish".: | |
| https://youtu.be/8fJ7FuQByjc | |
| #Post#: 13558-------------------------------------------------- | |
| How Russia Became an Empire | |
| By: guest55 Date: May 22, 2022, 11:32 pm | |
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| How Russia Became an Empire - Great Northern War DOCUMENTARY | |
| [quote]Kings and Generals animated historical animated | |
| documentary series on the Early Modern history continues with a | |
| video on the Great Northern War in which we will talk about the | |
| conflict in which the Swedish king Charles XII attempted to win | |
| against an alliance of Russia, Denmark, Prussia, | |
| Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the others. This conflict led | |
| to the rise of the Russian empire under Peter I, the fall of the | |
| Swedish empire and the destabilization of the Polish-Lithuanian | |
| Commonwealth. We will cover all the major battles of this | |
| conflict, including Gedebusch, Gangut, Narva, Poltava, Kliszow, | |
| Fraustadt, Lesnaya and many more.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDCFxgHDncc | |
| #Post#: 13645-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Why is the Russian army so brutal? | Military historian Antony B | |
| eevor | |
| By: guest55 Date: May 25, 2022, 4:59 pm | |
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| Why is the Russian army so brutal? | Military historian Antony | |
| Beevor | |
| [quote]There seems no doubt that atrocities and war crimes have | |
| been committed on a massive scale by Russian soldiers in | |
| Ukraine. Why is the Russian army so brutal? We are joined by one | |
| of Britain's foremost historians Anthony Beevor whose new book | |
| is �Russia: Revolution and Civil War 1917-1921�[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvhI_mS1zx8 | |
| #Post#: 13916-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 7, 2022, 7:52 pm | |
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| https://www.eurocanadians.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/985bbeaceb4aed30.jpg | |
| #Post#: 15079-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: August 10, 2022, 9:12 pm | |
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| Continuing from: | |
| https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg15051/#msg15051 | |
| [quote] | |
| https://images.chinahighlights.com/allpicture/2021/11/fa706736f71647e980a59460.… | |
| besides Outer Manchuria being directly stolen by Russia, who was | |
| really behind the breakaway of Mongolia? Answer: | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Revolution_of_1921 | |
| [quote]Although nominally independent, the Mongolian People's | |
| Republic was a satellite state of the Soviet Union until a third | |
| Mongolian revolution in January 1990. | |
| ... | |
| Early in 1919, Grigori Semyonov, a White Guard general, had | |
| assembled a group of Buryats and Inner Mongols in Siberia for | |
| the formation of a pan-Mongolian state. The Khalkhas were | |
| invited to join, but they refused. Semyonov threatened an | |
| invasion to force them to participate. This threat galvanized | |
| the lay princes, who now saw a larger opportunity: the end of | |
| theocratic rule. In August, the Mongolian Foreign Minister | |
| approached Chen Yi with a message from the "representatives of | |
| the four aimags" (i.e., the Khalkhas) with a request for | |
| military assistance against Semyonov. More importantly, perhaps, | |
| it contained a declaration that the Khalkhas were unanimous in | |
| their desire to abolish autonomy and restore the previous Qing | |
| system. | |
| ... | |
| Russian expatriates in Urga had elected a revolutionary | |
| "Municipal Duma", headed by Bolshevik sympathisers, which had | |
| learned of the Consular Hill group. In early March 1920, the | |
| Duma was sending one of its members, I. Sorokovikov, to Irkutsk. | |
| It decided that he should also take a report with him about | |
| these Mongolians. Sorokovikov met with representatives of the | |
| two groups. On his return to Urga in June, he met with them | |
| again, promising that the Soviet government would provide | |
| "assistance of all kinds" to the Mongolian "workers". He invited | |
| them to send representatives to Russia for further | |
| discussions.[20] | |
| A new sense of purposefulness now animated both groups. They had | |
| maintained a wary distance from one another, perhaps because of | |
| their different agendas�the Consular Hill group espousing a | |
| rather progressive social program while the East Urga group was | |
| more nationalistic in its goals�and there had been little | |
| cooperation between the two. The Soviet invitation changed that. | |
| The two groups met on 25 June, and formed the "Mongolian | |
| People's Party" (renamed later the Mongolian People's | |
| Revolutionary Party), adopted a "Party Oath", and agreed to send | |
| Danzan and Choibalsan as delegates to Russia.[21] | |
| Danzan and Choibalsan arrived in Verkhneudinsk, the capital of | |
| the pro-Soviet Far Eastern Republic, in the first part of July. | |
| They met with Boris Shumyatsky, then acting head of the | |
| government. Shumyatsky knew little about them, and for three | |
| weeks dodged their demands for a speedy Soviet decision whether | |
| or not to provide military assistance to the Mongolians against | |
| the Chinese. Finally, perhaps at Shumyatsky's suggestion, they | |
| sent a telegram to members of the MPP in Urga with a coded | |
| message that they should obtain a letter, stamped with the seal | |
| of the Bogd Khan, formally requesting Soviet assistance. | |
| ... | |
| After several meetings with Soviet authorities in Omsk, the | |
| Mongolian delegation was told that such an important matter | |
| could be decided only in Moscow. Danzan and his compatriots left | |
| for Moscow, arriving in about mid-September. For over a month | |
| they met frequently but inconclusively with Soviet and Comintern | |
| officials. | |
| A White Guard invasion of Mongolia under Baron Roman von | |
| Ungern-Sternberg, however, forced the Soviet government into | |
| action. In late October to early November 1920, around 1,000 | |
| troops under his command had laid siege to the Chinese garrison | |
| in Urga numbered about 7,000. | |
| ... | |
| The Chinese garrison in Urga, however, successfully repulsed von | |
| Ungern-Sternberg's attack. This altered the Soviet strategy. The | |
| army of the Far Eastern Republic was already exhausted. Only the | |
| Fifth Army of the Reds was left on the eastern front, and | |
| already by late 1920 many of its more experienced units had | |
| either been demobilized, or sent west to fight in Poland, or | |
| assigned to the labor front, where they were needed to repair | |
| the badly damaged Siberian economy.[27] Thus, when the Chinese | |
| repulsed von Ungern-Sternberg, the Soviets on 28 November | |
| withdrew their order for an invasion.[28] | |
| However, von Ungern-Sternberg launched a second attack in early | |
| February 1921. This time he was successful. Chinese soldiers and | |
| civilians fled the city in panic. With the fall of Urga, the | |
| Chinese administrations and military garrisons at Uliastai and | |
| Khovd departed quickly for Xinjiang. The Bogd Khan was restored | |
| as Mongolian monarch by von Ungern-Sternberg. The Bogd Khan and | |
| his government were also restored, and a solemn ceremony held on | |
| 22 February. | |
| ... | |
| News of von Ungern-Sternberg's seizure of Urga again influenced | |
| Soviet plans. A plenary session of the Comintern in Irkutsk on | |
| February 10 passed a formal resolution to aid the "struggle of | |
| the Mongolian people for liberation and independence with money, | |
| guns and military instructors".[29] With Soviet support, the MPP | |
| was now a serious contender for power. The Party, hitherto | |
| rather amorphous and loosely connected, required better | |
| organisational and ideological definition. A party conference | |
| (subsequently regarded as the first congress of the Mongolian | |
| People's Revolutionary Party) met secretly on 1�3 March at | |
| Kyakhta. The first session was attended by 17 persons, the | |
| second by 26. The Party approved the creation of an army command | |
| staff headed by S�khbaatar with two Russian advisors, elected a | |
| central committee chaired by Danzan with one representative from | |
| the Comintern, and adopted a party manifesto composed by the | |
| progressive Buryat Jamsrangiin Tseveen.[30] On 13 March, a | |
| provisional government of seven men was formed, soon to be | |
| headed by Bodoo. On 18 March, the Mongolian guerrilla army, its | |
| ranks now enlarged to 400 through recruitment and conscription, | |
| seized the Chinese garrison at Kyakhta Maimaicheng (the Chinese | |
| portion of Kyakhta). A new confidence now animated the Party. It | |
| issued a proclamation announcing the formation of the | |
| government, the expulsion of the Chinese, and the promise to | |
| convene a congress of "representatives of the masses" to elect a | |
| permanent government.[31][/quote] | |
| About ultra-Turanist von Ungern-Sternberg: | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-Sternberg | |
| [quote]He also had Hungarian roots and claimed descent from Batu | |
| Khan, Genghis Khan's grandson, which played a role in his dream | |
| of reviving the Mongol Empire.[4] | |
| ... | |
| As a boy, Ungern-Sternberg was noted for being such a ferocious | |
| bully that even the other bullies feared him and several parents | |
| forbade their children from playing with him as he was a | |
| "terror".[7] Ungern was well known for his love of torturing | |
| animals, and at the age of 12 he tried to strangle to death his | |
| cousin's pet owl for no particularly good reason other than his | |
| cruelty towards animals.[7] | |
| ... | |
| Ungern-Sternberg believed that return to monarchies in Europe | |
| was possible with the aid of "cavalry people" � meaning Russian | |
| Cossacks, Buryats, Tatars, Mongols, Kyrgyz, Kalmyks, etc.[10] | |
| ... | |
| In 1905, he left the school to join the fighting in eastern | |
| Russia during the Russo-Japanese War, but it is unclear whether | |
| he participated in operations against the Japanese or if all | |
| military operations had ceased before his arrival in | |
| Manchuria,[13] although he was awarded the Russo-Japanese War | |
| Medal in 1913.[14] | |
| ... | |
| There is a widespread view that he was viewed by Mongols as the | |
| incarnation of the "God of War" (the figure of Jamsaran in | |
| Tibetan and Mongol folklore). Although many Mongols may have | |
| believed him to be a deity or at the very least a re-incarnation | |
| of Genghis Khan, Ungern was never officially proclaimed to be | |
| any of those incarnations.[20] | |
| After graduating, he served as an officer in eastern Siberia in | |
| the 1st Argunsky and then in the 1st Amursky Cossack regiments, | |
| where he became enthralled with the lifestyle of nomadic | |
| peoples, such as the Mongols and Buryats. | |
| ... | |
| Ungern was an excellent horseman, who earned the respect of the | |
| Mongols and the Buryats because of his skill at riding and | |
| fighting from a horse and for being equally adept at using both | |
| a gun and his sword.[25][/quote] | |
| #Post#: 15214-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: guest78 Date: August 19, 2022, 1:43 am | |
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| The World's Last Colonial Empire: Collapse or Survival? | |
| [quote]Is Russian society ready to make the full sacrifice for | |
| the country's superpower? Or, is it however exactly the | |
| opposite?[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5p--KQ0ly0 | |
| Another excellent video from the Good Times Bad Times channel. | |
| #Post#: 15778-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 23, 2022, 3:23 am | |
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| A useful summary: | |
| https://chinapower.csis.org/china-russia-relationship-weaknesses-mistrust/ | |
| [quote]In the 19th century, the Russian Empire was party to many | |
| of the �unequal treaties� that compelled China to hand over | |
| territory, money, and other spoils to European powers. The 1858 | |
| Treaty of Aigun and 1860 Treaty of Peking were particularly | |
| harsh, forcing China to forfeit approximately 1 million square | |
| kilometers (km) of territory to the Russian Empire. | |
| Treaty of Kulja (1851) | |
| in Xinjiang. | |
| Treaty of Aigun (1858) | |
| kilometers of land to Russia. | |
| Treaty of Tientsin (1858) | |
| treaty ports by sea, as well as expanded extraterritoriality in | |
| treaty ports. Russia also established a legation in Beijing. | |
| Treaty of Peking (1860) | |
| northeastern territory to Russia. | |
| Treaty of St. Petersburg (1881) | |
| silver rubles. Russia expanded its consular network in Western | |
| China and Russian traders were allowed duty-free trade in | |
| Xinjiang and Mongolia. | |
| Li-Lobanov Treaty (1896) | |
| Chinese ports. Russia was permitted to build a railway through | |
| Heilongjiang and Jilin Provinces and station troops to protect | |
| it. China reduced tariff rates on Russian goods. | |
| Convention for the Lease of the Liaotung Peninsula (1898) | |
| was granted the lease to Port Arthur (in modern day Dalian) and | |
| Russian railways were permitted to extend to the port. | |
| Boxer Protocol (1900) | |
| of silver to 8 powers, with the lion�s share (29 percent) going | |
| to Russia. | |
| Sino-Soviet Border Conflicts (1968-1969) | |
| engaged in multiple border skirmishes, including at Zhenbao | |
| Island, where 72 were killed and 68 wounded on the Chinese | |
| side.[/quote] | |
| NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET. | |
| #Post#: 16086-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Russia, the Last Colonial Empire | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 17, 2022, 2:46 am | |
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| Today let's look at: | |
| https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/20201217-Caucasus-4-AreasTaken… | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_(1722%E2%80%931723) | |
| [quote]The Russo-Persian War of 1722�1723, known in Russian | |
| historiography as the Persian campaign of Peter the Great,[9] | |
| was a war between the Russian Empire and Safavid Iran, triggered | |
| by the tsar's attempt to expand Russian influence in the Caspian | |
| and Caucasus regions and to prevent its rival, the Ottoman | |
| Empire, from territorial gains in the region at the expense of | |
| declining Safavid Iran. | |
| The Russian victory ratified for Safavid Iran's cession of their | |
| territories in the North Caucasus, South Caucasus and | |
| contemporary northern Iran to Russia, comprising the cities of | |
| Derbent (southern Dagestan) and Baku and their nearby | |
| surrounding lands, as well as the provinces of Gilan, Shirvan, | |
| Mazandaran and Astarabad conform the Treaty of Saint Petersburg | |
| (1723).[8][/quote] | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Saint_Petersburg_(1723) | |
| [quote]The Treaty of Saint Petersburg of 23 September [O.S. 12 | |
| September] 1723[1][2] concluded the Russo-Persian War of | |
| 1722-1723 between Imperial Russia and Safavid Iran. It ratified | |
| Iran's forced ceding of its territories in the North Caucasus, | |
| South Caucasus, and contemporary mainland Northern Iran, | |
| comprising Derbent (Dagestan), Baku, the respective surrounding | |
| lands of Shirvan, as well as the provinces of Gilan, Mazandaran, | |
| and Astarabad.[3] The treaty further specified that the Iranian | |
| king would receive Russian troops for domestic peacekeeping.[4] | |
| As the Cambridge History of Iran states; | |
| "On 23 September 1723, his ambassador in Saint Petersburg, | |
| Ismail Beg, signed a humiliating treaty which stipulated that | |
| the Tsar would accord the shah friendship and help against | |
| rebels and would maintain the shah in tranquil possession of his | |
| throne. In return the shah promised to permanently cede to | |
| Russia: ... the towns of Darband (Derbent), Baku, with all the | |
| territories belonging to them, as well as the provinces: Gilan, | |
| Mazandaran, and Astarabad[/quote] | |
| [quote]Peter was determined to keep the newly conquered Iranian | |
| territories in the Caucasus and northern mainland Iran. However, | |
| he was concerned about their safety and thus ordered the | |
| fortifications at Derbent and Holy Cross to be strengthened.[8] | |
| He was determined to attach Gilan and Mazandaran to Russia.[8] | |
| In May 1724, the Tsar wrote to Matiushkin, Russian commander in | |
| Rasht, that he should invite "Armenians and other Christians, if | |
| there are such, to Gilan and Mazandaran and settle them, while | |
| Muslims should be very quietly, so that they would not know it, | |
| diminished in number as much as possible."[8][/quote] | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_(1804%E2%80%931813) | |
| [quote]The 1804�1813 Russo-Persian War was one of the many wars | |
| between the Persian Empire and Imperial Russia, and began like | |
| many of their wars as a territorial dispute. The new Persian | |
| king, Fath Ali Shah Qajar, wanted to consolidate the | |
| northernmost reaches of his kingdom�modern-day Georgia�which had | |
| been annexed by Tsar Paul I several years after the | |
| Russo-Persian War of 1796. Like his Persian counterpart, the | |
| Tsar Alexander I was also new to the throne and equally | |
| determined to control the disputed territories. | |
| The war ended in 1813 with the Treaty of Gulistan which ceded | |
| the previously disputed territory of Georgia to Imperial Russia, | |
| and also the Iranian territories of Dagestan, most of what is | |
| nowadays Azerbaijan, and minor parts of Armenia.[/quote] | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Gulistan | |
| [quote]The Treaty of Gulistan (Russian: | |
| Гюлистанс& | |
| #1082;ий | |
| договор; Persian: | |
| عهدنامه | |
| گلستان) was a peace treaty | |
| concluded between the Russian Empire and Iran on 24 October 1813 | |
| in the village of Gulistan (now in the Goranboy District of | |
| Azerbaijan) as a result of the first full-scale Russo-Persian | |
| War (1804 to 1813). The peace negotiations were precipitated by | |
| the successful storming of Lankaran by General Pyotr | |
| Kotlyarevsky on 1 January 1813. It was the first of the series | |
| of treaties (the last being the Akhal Treaty) signed between | |
| Qajar Iran and Imperial Russia that forced Persia to cede or | |
| recognize Russian influence over the territories that formerly | |
| were part of Iran.[1][2] | |
| The treaty confirmed the ceding and inclusion of what is now | |
| Dagestan, eastern Georgia, most of the Republic of Azerbaijan | |
| and parts of northern Armenia from Iran into the Russian Empire. | |
| ... | |
| Terms | |
| "Russia by this instrument was confirmed in possession of all | |
| the khanates -- Karabagh, Ganja, Shekeen, Shirvan, Derbend, | |
| Kouba, and Baku, together with part of Talish and the fortress | |
| of Lenkoran. Persia further abandoned all pretensions to | |
| Daghestan, Georgia, Mingrelia, Imeretia, and Abkhazia."[18] | |
| The lands include: | |
| All the cities, towns, and villages of Georgia, including all | |
| the villages and towns on the coast of the Black Sea, such as: | |
| Megrelia, | |
| Abkhazia, | |
| Imeretia, | |
| Guria; | |
| Almost all cities, towns, and villages of the khanates in the | |
| South Caucasus and partly North Caucasus: | |
| Baku khanate, | |
| Shirvan Khanate, | |
| Derbent Khanate, | |
| Karabakh khanate, | |
| Ganja khanate, | |
| Shaki Khanate, | |
| Quba Khanate, | |
| part of the Talysh Khanate; | |
| Iran loses all rights to navigate the Caspian Sea, and Russia is | |
| granted exclusive rights to station its military fleet in the | |
| Caspian Sea. | |
| ... | |
| Even today, Iran officially sees it and the later Treaty of | |
| Turkmenchay as some of its most humiliating treaties ever | |
| signed.[/quote] | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_(1826%E2%80%931828) | |
| [quote]The war had even more disastrous results for Persia than | |
| the 1804-1813 war, as the ensuing Treaty of Turkmenchay stripped | |
| Persia of its last remaining territories in the Caucasus, which | |
| comprised all of modern Armenia, the southern remainder of | |
| modern Azerbaijan, and modern Igdir in Turkey. Through the | |
| Gulistan and Turkmenchay treaties Persia lost all of its | |
| territories in the Caucasus to Russia. These territories had | |
| once extended throughout most of Transcaucasia and part of the | |
| North Caucasus. | |
| The war marked the end of the era of the Russo-Persian Wars, | |
| with Russia now the unquestioned dominant power in the Caucasus. | |
| Persia (Iran) was forced to cede swaths of territories that it | |
| never regained. The conquered territories spent more than 160 | |
| years under Russian domination before establishing their | |
| independence, except Dagestan, which is still a Russian | |
| possession.[/quote] | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Turkmenchay | |
| [quote]The Treaty of Turkmenchay (Persian: | |
| عهدنامه | |
| ترکمنچای; | |
| Russian: | |
| Туркманча& | |
| #1081;ский | |
| договор) was an | |
| agreement between Qajar Iran and the Russian Empire, which | |
| concluded the Russo-Persian War (1826�28). It was second of the | |
| series of treaties (the first was the 1813 Treaty of Gulistan | |
| and the last, the 1881 Treaty of Akhal) signed between Qajar | |
| Iran and Imperial Russia that forced Persia to cede or recognize | |
| Russian influence over the territories that formerly were part | |
| of Iran.[1][2] | |
| ... | |
| Similarly to the 1813 Treaty of Gulistan, the treaty was imposed | |
| on Persia following a Russian military victory. Paskievich | |
| threatened to occupy Tehran in five days unless the treaty was | |
| signed.[4] | |
| ... | |
| Following this treaty, as well as the Treaty of Gulistan, Russia | |
| had finished conquering all the Caucasus territories from Qajar | |
| Iran what is now Dagestan, eastern Georgia, Azerbaijan, and | |
| Armenia, all of which had formed part of its very concept for | |
| centuries.[5] The areas north of the Aras River, such as the | |
| territory of the contemporary nations of Georgia, Azerbaijan, | |
| Armenia and the North Caucasian Republic of Dagestan, were | |
| Iranian until they were occupied by Russia during the 19th | |
| century.[6][7][8][9][10][11] | |
| Following the two treaties, the formerly Iranian territories | |
| came under the Russian, and later the Soviet control for | |
| approximately 180 years, and Dagestan remains a constituent | |
| republic within the Russian Federation to this day. Comprising | |
| most of the territory ceded in Gulistan and Turkmenchay | |
| treaties, three separate nations would gain independence | |
| following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991: Georgia, | |
| Azerbaijan and Armenia.[/quote] | |
| NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET. | |
| The only good part: | |
| [quote]In the aftermath of the war and the signing of the | |
| treaty, anti-Russian sentiment in Persia was rampant. On 11 | |
| February 1829, an angry mob stormed the Russian embassy in | |
| Tehran and killed almost everyone inside. Among those killed in | |
| the massacre was the newly-appointed ambassador to Persia, | |
| Aleksander Griboyedov, a celebrated Russian playwright. | |
| Griboyedov had played an active role in negotiating the terms of | |
| the treaty.[21][/quote] | |
| #Post#: 16699-------------------------------------------------- | |
| The Forgotten US Invasion of Russia | |
| By: guest78 Date: November 26, 2022, 7:41 pm | |
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| The Forgotten US Invasion of Russia | |
| [quote]Decades before the beginning of the Cold War, the | |
| relationship between the US and the Soviet Government had | |
| already become heated. President Reagan had forgot to mention - | |
| or had simply forgotten - that American and Soviet troops had | |
| already engaged in active combat on several occasions, from | |
| August 1918 to April 1920. This is the story of the almost | |
| forgotten American invasion of Soviet Russia.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OUv3dXD0T4 | |
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