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| #Post#: 13830-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: christianbethel Date: June 2, 2022, 9:57 am | |
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| How so? Millions of Muslims still reproduce. | |
| #Post#: 13831-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 2, 2022, 1:13 pm | |
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| Not all Muslims are believers (Mumins). | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumin#Difference_between_Muslim_and_Mu%CA%BEmin | |
| [quote]the following verse makes a distinction between a Muslim | |
| and a believer:[citation needed] | |
| (Al-Hujurat 49:14) The Arabs of the desert say, "We believe." | |
| (tu/minoo) Say thou: Ye believe not; but rather say, "We profess | |
| Islam;" (aslamna) for the faith (al-imanu) hath not yet found | |
| its way into your hearts.[/quote] | |
| #Post#: 13841-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: christianbethel Date: June 2, 2022, 9:31 pm | |
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| Ah. Muslims, then Mumins, then Musins. | |
| I also asked a Muslim about the term 'Muhammadanism' and she | |
| said it was forbidden in Islam because it promotes idolatry. | |
| Thoughts? | |
| #Post#: 13842-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 2, 2022, 10:26 pm | |
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| The Muslim you asked is illiterate. Mohammed himself stated that | |
| he was merely re-teaching what earlier true prophets (e.g. | |
| Jesus) had taught before but which was distorted after their | |
| deaths. Therefore, the followers of the pre-distortion teachings | |
| of earlier true prophets were also Muslims. Mohammedans refer to | |
| those who became Muslims because of Mohammed's influence. | |
| #Post#: 13846-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: christianbethel Date: June 3, 2022, 10:46 am | |
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| I also heard that Ali said that the Uthmanic codex was correct | |
| with 'minor errors'. Only a Sunni/Judeo-Islamist would believe | |
| such lies. | |
| #Post#: 14318-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Drafting up a Jamia | |
| By: guest63 Date: June 24, 2022, 1:38 pm | |
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| This is a little off-topic, but how should prayer be done in | |
| Mohammedanism? | |
| One of my friends who is a Muslim mixes simple Christian prayers | |
| with a few Mohammedan prayers, such as saying the Takbir in the | |
| beginning and reciting Surah al-Fatihah before requesting | |
| anything from Allah SWT. He does ablution when necessary but not | |
| always. | |
| #Post#: 14321-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 24, 2022, 2:38 pm | |
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| https://www.soundvision.com/article/children-in-the-masjid-making-space-for-our… | |
| [quote]Imagine a Masjid where the Imam pauses during Salah and | |
| the entire congregation waits so a toddler can finish his game. | |
| Imagine a Masjid where an Imam leads Salah while he holds a | |
| child in his arms. Imagine a Masjid where the cry of a baby | |
| changes the Imam�s intention and shortens the prayer for the | |
| entire congregation. | |
| This was the Masjid of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings | |
| be upon him. | |
| ... | |
| The Messenger of Allah came out to us for one of the two later | |
| prayers [Thuhr Asr], carrying Hasan or Hussein. The Prophet then | |
| came to the front and put him down, said Takbir for the prayer | |
| and commenced praying. During the prayer, he performed a very | |
| long prostration, so I raised my head and there was the child, | |
| on the back of the Messenger of Allah, who was in prostration. I | |
| then returned to my prostration. When the Messenger of Allah had | |
| offered the prayer, the people said: �O Messenger of Allah! In | |
| the middle of your prayer, you performed prostration and | |
| lengthened it so much that we thought either something had | |
| happened or that you were receiving revelation!� He said: | |
| �Neither was the case. Actually, my grandson made me his mount, | |
| and I did not want to hurry him until he had satisfied his wish" | |
| (Reported by Nasaa'i, Ibn Asaakir, and Haakim). | |
| The Messenger of Allah would pray holding Umaamah bint Zaynab | |
| bint Rasoolillaah. He would put her down when he prostrated, | |
| and then pick her up again when he stood up (Reported by Bukhari | |
| and Muslim) | |
| The Prophet said: �When I stand for prayer, I intend to prolong | |
| it, but on hearing the cries of a child, I cut it short, as I | |
| dislike to trouble the child's mother" (Reported by Bukhari). | |
| These scenarios illustrate how natural it was for babies, | |
| toddlers, and children to be part of the Prophet�s Masjid. They | |
| show us that the Prophet understood the nature of children and | |
| cared for their needs and comfort in the mosque. | |
| Do we witness these scenarios in our Masjids today? We see a | |
| child grabbed and told to �sit down and be quiet!� because he | |
| was running between the rows. Or we hear �sister, can you please | |
| go outside� because her baby is crying. Or we read signs that | |
| say �No children in Masjid area�. | |
| ... | |
| Children running in the hallway or playing basketball in the | |
| parking lot are not signs of a rowdy Masjid or misbehaving | |
| children. | |
| ... | |
| This is the nature that Allah created in children - they | |
| overflow with energy and enthusiasm | |
| ... | |
| Here is an example of how the Prophet dealt with Anas bin Malik, | |
| who served him as a boy: | |
| The Prophet sent Anas on an errand and Anas reported that �I | |
| went until I came upon children playing in the street. Then the | |
| Messenger of Allah arrived and he caught me by the back of my | |
| neck from behind. As I looked at him, I found him smiling, and | |
| he said, �Unays (Anas�s nickname), did you go where I ordered | |
| you to go?� I said, �O Messenger of Allah, yes, I am going.� | |
| Anas said further, �I served him for nine years, but I do not | |
| know that he ever said to me about anything I did, �why I did | |
| that, or about anything I had neglected, why I had not done | |
| that� (Reported by Muslim). | |
| The Prophet did not scold Anas for forgetting his errand or for | |
| anything else in nine years. | |
| ... | |
| Allah does not punish children for their misbehavior but Allah | |
| does hold us accountable for how we treat children.[/quote] | |
| #Post#: 14327-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: SirGalahad Date: June 24, 2022, 9:58 pm | |
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| @90sRetroFan That's actually a beautiful recount. And it's in | |
| stark contrast to how children are typically treated during most | |
| church services in mainstream Judeo-Christian sects. I can't | |
| comment on any stereotypes of Islamic services since I was not | |
| raised Muslim and did not grow up in a predominantly Muslim | |
| country, but I DO know that it's basically a stereotype at this | |
| point, for Christian church services to be practically | |
| unbearable for children, and many of them have to be forced to | |
| go. If you aren't inspiring the children, who naturally love to | |
| dream and are far more idealistic and romantically inclined than | |
| adults, then something's wrong with how you conduct things. May | |
| God be pleased with Mohammed | |
| #Post#: 17713-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: guest98 Date: January 29, 2023, 3:17 pm | |
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| Islam has been greatly corrupted due to the adoption of the evil | |
| Judaic practice of circumcision. Circumcision adds a 'layer of | |
| Judea' that cannot be purified/overcome because it is a physical | |
| mutilation. | |
| I wish I wasn't circumcised, it has probably destroyed a lot of | |
| my original childhood sensitivity. Circumcision needs to be | |
| banned everywhere, any parents caught trying to circumcise their | |
| child should be executed. | |
| #Post#: 17714-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Inspired by Muhammad | |
| By: SirGalahad Date: January 29, 2023, 4:10 pm | |
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| Islamic circumcision seems more ethical to me, because as far as | |
| I know, it�s not really a tradition to circumcise the child | |
| immediately after birth, like it is for westerners. The child | |
| could be circumcised at 7, or even at puberty. As long as the | |
| child is given some semblance of autonomy in the decision, I | |
| don�t find it necessarily unethical, even though I�d argue less | |
| emphasis should be placed on the practice, since it originated | |
| from Judaism | |
| But I definitely agree that circumcising someone who isn�t even | |
| old enough to at least verbally consent to it, should be a | |
| crime. It almost happened to me when I was born, but the doctor | |
| my mom trusted wasn�t there | |
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