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| Uneducable Gentiles | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 16, 2020, 5:38 am | |
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| OLD CONTENT | |
| sciencenordic.com/first-stone-age-farmers-norway-gave-after-shor | |
| t-period-time | |
| [quote]the first farmers in Norway appear to have given up | |
| relatively early. They stopped growing crops after a relatively | |
| short period of time and returned to hunter-gatherer-fisher | |
| lifestyle. | |
| ... | |
| However, settlements in the coastal areas grew and were strongly | |
| linked to the sea, where food was plentiful. | |
| Characteristic ceramic objects tell the story of a maritime | |
| culture. | |
| Nielsen says the arguments have gone back and forth as to why | |
| people returned to a fishing culture or gave up farming. Some | |
| think its an obvious way to live, given the country's huge | |
| coastal resources. On the other hand, why would the people who | |
| introduced agriculture end it?[/quote] | |
| Because it wasn't us; it was those whom we tried to teach - | |
| without success. | |
| --- | |
| www.thevintagenews.com/2019/06/27/neolithic-city-overcrowded/ | |
| [quote]Archaeologists recently discovered that the transition | |
| from foraging to a communal farming lifestyle caused problems | |
| for people who lived at a 32-acre site in southern Turkey that | |
| was occupied from 7100 B.C. to 5950 B.C. �atalh�y�k was home to | |
| as many as 8,000 people at its peak. | |
| ... | |
| �The scientists found that the number of injuries, evident in | |
| skeletons, increased when the community was at its largest, | |
| suggesting that as �atalh�y�k�s population boomed, violence | |
| became more frequent,� said Live Science. �About 25 percent of | |
| the 95 examined skulls showed healed injuries made by small | |
| spherical projectiles, probably a clay ball flung by a | |
| slingshot. Many of these clay spheres were also preserved around | |
| the site, according to the study.�[/quote] | |
| But were these Aryans? No: | |
| [quote] | |
| https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/800px-catal_huyuk_bul… | |
| Bull (Auroch) heads from Catalh�y�k in Angora Museum. Photo by | |
| Stipich B�la CC BY 2.5 | |
| https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/mural_from_catalhoyuk… | |
| Neolithic hunters attacking an auroch, Museum of Anatolian | |
| Civilizations. Photo by Omar Hoftun CC BY-SA 3.0[/quote] | |
| Besides the absence of respect towards cows (a distinguishing | |
| Aryan characteristic) another dead giveaway is their worship of | |
| high sexual dimorphism: | |
| [quote] | |
| https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/museum_of_anatolian_c… | |
| Mother Goddess from �atalh�y�k flanked by two feline lionesses, | |
| neolithic age (about 5500-6000 BC), today in Museum of Anatolian | |
| Civilizations in Ankara. Photo by Nevit Dilmen CC BY-SA | |
| 3.0[/quote] | |
| These were the Gentiles we tried and failed to teach. | |
| --- | |
| I told you so: | |
| www.genomeweb.com/genetic-research/anatolian-hunter-gatherers-ad | |
| opted-farming-practices-ancient-dna-study-suggests | |
| [quote]An international team of researchers has generated | |
| genome-wide SNP data on eight prehistoric individuals, including | |
| an Epipaleolithic Anatolian hunter-gatherer, five early | |
| Neolithic Aceramic Anatolian farmers, and two early Neolithic | |
| farmers from the Levant. As they reported in Nature | |
| Communications today, the researchers found that the Neolithic | |
| Anatolians derived a large portion of their ancestry from the | |
| Epipaleolithic Anatolian, indicating genetic continuity in the | |
| region. | |
| ... | |
| When they modeled the Neolithic Aceramic Anatolian farmers' | |
| ancestry, they noted the best fit suggested that Anatolian | |
| hunter-gatherers provided the most � about 90 percent � of their | |
| ancestry. This, the researchers added, indicates there was | |
| long-term genetic stability in central Anatolia, even as the | |
| subsistence strategy changed. | |
| The later Neolithic Ceramic Anatolian farmers, though, shared | |
| more alleles with the early Holocene Levantines than the | |
| Neolithic Aceramic Anatolian farmers did. Still, the researchers | |
| noted that the Neolithic Aceramic Anatolian farmers contributed | |
| about three-quarters of the Neolithic Ceramic Anatolian farmers' | |
| ancestry.[/quote] | |
| ~75% of ~90% is still at least ~68% Gentile. Hence the atrocious | |
| behaviour as mentioned in the previous post. | |
| --- | |
| This has been a growing enemy narrative recently: | |
| www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/our-worst-mistake-part-1/Cont | |
| ent?oid=13669919 | |
| www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/our-worst-mistake-part-2/Cont | |
| ent?oid=13801092 | |
| Discuss. I will respond later. | |
| --- | |
| The exaltation of the Paleolithic lifestyle by those such as | |
| Christopher Ryan (Gentile?) stems primarily from the fact that | |
| those societies were more allowing of sexual promiscuity among | |
| women. This caters to the PC, and hence False Left worldview | |
| that women have the "right" to be as equally promiscuous as men. | |
| Moreover, his criticism of Neolithic societies as being | |
| patriarchal is only applicable to Gentiles who adopted the | |
| practice of farming without changing their behavior, and is thus | |
| intellectually dishonest. This is no doubt designed to | |
| facilitate the backlash to patriarchy as manifest in the present | |
| day far-right movements. | |
| --- | |
| Yea that "patriarchy started in the Neolithic" bullshit got | |
| brought up in my history class a few weeks ago. As if the | |
| Hunter-Gatherer lifestyle doesn't REQUIRE gender-roles, and as | |
| if farming DOES... | |
| --- | |
| www.zmescience.com/science/gender-inequality-neolithic-emergence | |
| -22062019/ | |
| [quote]Archaeologists at the University of Seville in Spain have | |
| studied prehistoric societies in the Neolithic Period in the | |
| Iberian Peninsula from the perspective of gender. They looked at | |
| two types of evidence: biological and funerary. | |
| In the first category, the team focused on demographic | |
| proportions between men and women, as well as other clues such | |
| as diet, genetic data, and common diseases. For the funerary | |
| evidence, they analyzed how �important� a burial site was � | |
| whether it was an individual or collective burial, the position | |
| and orientation of the body, as well as any goods placed in the | |
| tomb. | |
| They found that at the start of the Neolithic, there was no | |
| significant difference between men and women in this regards, | |
| suggesting a generally equal society. However, as things | |
| progressed, it started to change. A key indicator is the growing | |
| association of men with violence. Male bodies started exhibiting | |
| more arrow wounds, their tombs featured more weapons or | |
| projectiles, and men were increasingly depicted in fighting | |
| scenes in cave paintings, whereas women were not. Hunting and | |
| warfare were a masculine business. Conversely, women�s� burial | |
| sites were more likely to contain ceramic pots, indicating a | |
| separation of gender roles. | |
| Interestingly, out of all the aspects considered in this study, | |
| the ones that show the greatest difference between males and | |
| females are related to violence: projectiles, trauma including | |
| impact by arrowheads, and graphic depictions of war and | |
| hunting.[/quote] | |
| The absence of patriarchy at the beginning of the Neolithic | |
| (a.k.a. Golden Age) fits our model of innately anti-sexist | |
| Aryans. The subsequent emergence of patriarchy could be | |
| accounted for, as rp suggests, as merely the behaviour of the | |
| Gentiles who had learned farming from us. This is reinforced by | |
| the cave paintings which clearly indicate that these people were | |
| hunting alongside farming, as we would expect Gentiles to do. | |
| Indeed we have noted in the past that Gentiles who learned | |
| farming usually left their women to do most of the actual farm | |
| work while their men hunted just as they always did. This would | |
| also mean that the selective pressure (for Aryan traits) exerted | |
| by farm work would have been mostly avoided by the Gentile men. | |
| This then ties back into the present-day observation that more | |
| men than women retain certain traits adaptive to hunting but | |
| maladaptive to farming: | |
| https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/non-aryan-adhd/ | |
| (This is on top of the selective pressure (for other Aryan | |
| traits) exerted by diet being avoided by Gentiles of both | |
| genders (since the men would probably share their hunted meat | |
| with the women).) | |
| --- | |
| scifare.com/science-news/article/european-inequality-traced-back | |
| -to-the-neolithic-age/ | |
| [quote]After analyzing the teeth from more than 300 | |
| Neolithic-age skeletons, a team of researchers from across | |
| Europe have found links between access to prime farming lands � | |
| along with their fruits � and hereditary inequality. | |
| ... | |
| The team found those people buried with a prestigious Neolithic | |
| tool, known as an adze, had substantially less variation in the | |
| ratio of the element strontium � it incorporates into the enamel | |
| of teeth, like calcium � compared to people buried without one. | |
| ... | |
| They also found that those with higher than expected variation | |
| in strontium ratio levels, almost exclusively, were buried | |
| without an adze � of the 41 samples, only one was buried with | |
| the stone tool. | |
| �We think that�s because there�s a particular kind of soil type | |
| those farmers preferred, called loess soils,� Bentley said. | |
| For Neolithic farmers, it was land that drained water well, was | |
| easy to work and because loess soils are found primarily along | |
| the river valleys of central Europe, it was fertile land that | |
| was great for growing crops. | |
| Considering how varied strontium signatures can be, the | |
| incredibly narrow variation seen in skeletons with the Neolithic | |
| tool implies their diets were sourced, almost exclusively, from | |
| a narrow region that�s closely related to the loess soil | |
| regions. | |
| �Individuals who weren�t buried with adzes were probably farming | |
| further afield or obtained their food further away, from | |
| slightly less preferred soils,� Bentley said. �It�s a real hint | |
| at a system of inequality that surely got magnified over the | |
| generations.�[/quote] | |
| If you ask me what is going on here, the people buried with | |
| adzes were Aryans who loved farming, whereas the people buried | |
| without were Gentiles who had learned farming but who were not | |
| sentimentally dedicated to it and thus did not care for being | |
| buried with their adzes. | |
| We already know that the Aryans migrated following the rivers, | |
| so it is no surprise that they farmed on the valley land. On the | |
| other hand, the Gentiles on lower-quality land could still have | |
| produced enough food so long as they had been willing to keep | |
| their population down. But they were not: they were outnumbering | |
| the Aryans 41:1! So of course they didn't have enough food to go | |
| round! | |
| Moreover, what the data shows is that Aryans have less variation | |
| in strontium than farming Gentiles, in other words all Aryans | |
| had similarly high strontium whereas some farming Gentiles had | |
| high strontium and other farming Gentiles had low strontium. In | |
| other words Aryans were sharing food fairly, whereas it was the | |
| farming Gentiles who were not sharing food fairly. | |
| Now read carefully: | |
| [quote]The researchers also found a similar difference when they | |
| compared genders. Men, on average had substantially less | |
| variation in strontium ratios than women. They also found that | |
| approximately eight of every ten individuals with higher than | |
| expected ratios of strontium were female.[/quote] | |
| Did you catch it? In the second sentence the author is talking | |
| about variation in strontium ratios. In the third sentence, | |
| however, the author subtly switched to talking about the | |
| strontium ratios themselves! A less careful reader primed by the | |
| claim of a "similar difference" in the first sentence would | |
| easily misread that women had higher variation in strontium (ie. | |
| more women have low strontium), when in fact more women had high | |
| strontium! | |
| #Post#: 1188-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Uneducable Gentiles | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: September 16, 2020, 6:23 am | |
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| https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-the-first-farmers-arrived-in-eu… | |
| [quote]Eight thousand years ago small bands of seminomadic | |
| hunter-gatherers were the only human beings roaming Europe's | |
| lush, green forests. Archaeological digs in caves and elsewhere | |
| have turned up evidence of their Mesolithic technology: | |
| flint-tipped tools with which they fished, hunted deer and | |
| aurochs (a now extinct species of ox), and gathered wild plants. | |
| Many had dark hair and blue eyes, recent genetic studies | |
| suggest, and the few skeletons unearthed so far indicate that | |
| they were quite tall and muscular. Their languages remain | |
| mysterious to this day. | |
| Three millennia later the forests they inhabited had given way | |
| to fields of wheat and lentils. Farmers ruled the | |
| continent.[/quote] | |
| Before we get back to the main topic, here is a sidetrack about | |
| something that is new to me: | |
| [quote]the LBK farmers reached the Rhine within just a few | |
| centuries, around 7,300 years ago. | |
| ... | |
| On the southern route, the farmers leapfrogged along the | |
| Mediterranean coast from Italy to France and on to the Iberian | |
| Peninsula. After reaching French shores, 7,800 or so years ago, | |
| they migrated northward toward the Paris Basin, the plain | |
| between the Rhine and the Atlantic Ocean that forms a kind of | |
| continental cul-de-sac. It was there that the two great streams | |
| of farmers met, around seven millennia ago. By then their | |
| cultures had diverged to some extent�they had been separated for | |
| more than 500 years�but they would still have recognized their | |
| own kind. They mingled both biologically and culturally.[/quote] | |
| Aesir-Saturnian reunification! It must have been wonderful! Now | |
| back to the main topic: | |
| [quote]Sooner or later the immigrant farmers must have met the | |
| resident hunter-gatherers�and when it happened, it must have | |
| been a shock. Approximately 40,000 years had elapsed since their | |
| common ancestors split paths on their way out of Africa�long | |
| enough to distinguish them physically, culturally and | |
| linguistically. Comparisons of their genes with those of modern | |
| Europeans indicate that the farmers were shorter than the | |
| Western hunter-gatherers who occupied most of the continent. | |
| They also had dark hair, dark eyes and, probably, lighter skin. | |
| There is no evidence of violence between the two groups in the | |
| earliest encounters�although the archaeological record is | |
| incomplete enough that violence cannot be ruled out. Yet in | |
| large parts of Europe, the hunter-gatherers and their Mesolithic | |
| culture simply vanished from both genetic and archaeological | |
| records the moment the farmers arrived. Where did they go? | |
| For decades archaeologists have wondered whether, in the face of | |
| this massive influx, the hunter-gatherers retreated�into the | |
| hills, perhaps, where the soil was less fertile and hence less | |
| suitable for farming, or deep into the forest, where the farmers | |
| were unlikely to interfere with them. �Maybe there were massive | |
| pockets of hunter-gatherers surviving there, not for a | |
| generation but for 1,000 or 2,000 years after the farmers | |
| arrived,� suggests Ron Pinhasi, an archaeologist and | |
| anthropologist at the University of Vienna in Austria.[/quote] | |
| Yes, there were. Hence the Giant myths. | |
| [quote]The hunter-gatherers must still have been there somewhere | |
| because modern Europeans carry their genes, and Europe-wide | |
| surveys of ancient DNA have highlighted a so-called Mesolithic | |
| resurgence that started 6,500 years ago. Hunter-gatherer genetic | |
| elements accounted for more and more of the farmers' genomes as | |
| time went on�but the resurgence was not just genetic. �Around | |
| the same time, we see the reemergence in the archaeological | |
| record of Mesolithic ways of doing things,� says archaeologist | |
| Thomas Perrin of the Jean Jaur�s University of Toulouse in | |
| France. The hunter-gatherers themselves were no longer there, | |
| except for possible pockets of them hiding deep in the | |
| forest�but their genes, and their technology, were. | |
| By the time the farmers started moving out again from that hub | |
| of the Paris Basin, they were no longer the same people who had | |
| set out from Hungary or beached on Europe's prehistoric Riviera. | |
| They carried a little bit of the old Europe within them.[/quote] | |
| They were no longer Aryans. | |
| [quote]There may even have been rare exceptions to the rule that | |
| the two groups did not interbreed early on. The Austrian site of | |
| Brunn 2, in a wooded river valley not far from Vienna, dates | |
| from the earliest arrival of the LBK farmers in central Europe, | |
| around 7,600 years ago. Three burials at the site were roughly | |
| contemporaneous. Two were of individuals of pure farming | |
| ancestry, and the other was the first-generation offspring of a | |
| hunter and a farmer. All three lay curled up on their sides in | |
| the LBK way, but the �hunter� was buried with six | |
| arrowheads.[/quote] | |
| This is what degeneracy looks like. | |
| [quote]On the southern route, however, those interactions seem | |
| to have included interbreeding right from the start. �Within the | |
| first two centuries of the first farmers' arrival, we have | |
| individuals whose genetic makeup is 55 percent hunter-gatherer,� | |
| says paleogeneticist Ma�t� Rivollat of the University of | |
| Bordeaux, co-author of a genetic analysis of human remains found | |
| at Neolithic burial sites in southern France that was published | |
| in May in Science Advances. Moreover, by looking at the way the | |
| hunter-gatherer component was distributed through farmer | |
| genomes, Rivollat and her colleagues could tell the | |
| interbreeding had gone on for five or six generations | |
| already�perhaps starting as soon as the pioneers landed.[/quote] | |
| Yes, as the myth recounts of Janus ceding the throne to Saturn | |
| on condition that they became in-laws. | |
| [quote]Archaeologists have long regarded Cerny as a last vestige | |
| of LBK, developing just as LBK was embracing other elements. If | |
| that premise is correct, the inhabitants had farming in their | |
| blood�their ancestors were the early farmers of the Carpathian | |
| Basin. Yet in cemeteries dating from 6,700 years ago, men of | |
| high status were buried lying on their backs, not curled up on | |
| their sides, and arranged around them were hunting weapons and | |
| ornaments made from red deer antlers, the tusks of wild boars | |
| and the claws of birds of prey. �Their funerary rites speak to | |
| another world from their day-to-day,� says archaeologist Aline | |
| Thomas of the Museum of Mankind. �They make reference to the | |
| sphere of the wild, things that are more often associated with | |
| Mesolithic populations.� | |
| Those rites have prompted Thomas and Bon to ask: Who were the | |
| Cerny people really? Were they farmers who had adopted | |
| Mesolithic ways and come to venerate them, or were they recently | |
| converted hunter-gatherers who had never let them go?[/quote] | |
| Definitely not pure Aryans. | |
| [quote]Bon and Thomas have been analyzing DNA extracted from the | |
| Cerny cemeteries to try to answer that question. So far they | |
| have analyzed the (maternally inherited) mtDNA and found that it | |
| contains Mesolithic elements.[/quote] | |
| See? | |
| [quote]If so, those societies now contained people with high | |
| levels of hunter-gatherer ancestry who may still have looked | |
| different from their �pure� farmer neighbors and whose existence | |
| was not necessarily happy. | |
| ... | |
| Several of those whose bodies appeared to have been dumped had | |
| severed limbs, and one had traces of burns, suggesting that they | |
| had been subjected to rituals. Significantly, the researchers | |
| sequenced mtDNA from the teeth of 22 individuals and found | |
| differences between those laid deliberately into graves and | |
| those thrown in alongside them in �unconventional� positions. | |
| �The individuals in the unconventional position had | |
| mitochondrial profiles inherited from hunter-gatherers, while | |
| those in the conventional position had not,� Rivollat | |
| says.[/quote] | |
| We should do this with rightists today. | |
| And of course the Turanian epilogue: | |
| [quote]Nearly 1,000 years after Kapellenberg was deserted, a new | |
| people arrived there and built two ritual mounds. Called the | |
| Yamnaya, they came from the steppe in chariots, and the fact | |
| that they contributed relatively few X chromosomes to the | |
| European gene pool�as Goldberg reported in 2017�suggests that | |
| their invasion was overwhelmingly masculine. Researchers, | |
| including Kristian Kristiansen, an archaeologist at the | |
| University of Gothenburg in Sweden, have found traces of plague | |
| DNA in the remains of Yamnaya teeth, leading them to propose in | |
| 2018 that the Yamnaya pastoralists laid waste to farming | |
| communities by sowing plague among them. | |
| ... | |
| Before the newcomers made their appearance, did the last of the | |
| hunter-gatherers emerge from their hiding places to pick over | |
| the farmers' abandoned wealth�their animals, their once vibrant | |
| copper trade�and enjoy a new lease on life as forager-herders? | |
| It is a theory that Nikitin, for one, favors.[/quote] | |
| #Post#: 6132-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non-Aryan ADHD | |
| By: guest5 Date: May 4, 2021, 12:26 am | |
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| This comes up under the google search for neolithic winter | |
| attire: | |
| https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/01/44/2d/01442d7077139f06c91270372ccad10b.jpg | |
| A group of recreated Neolithic men wearing naturally tanned | |
| animal hides. | |
| In fact, an image search of the neolithic period clothing brings | |
| up a lot of pictures of people wearing fur and the like.... | |
| Articles speak of it as well apparently: | |
| [quote]Furs and non-cured hides were among the most popular | |
| materials used to make clothing during the Neolithic Age. Furs | |
| required the least amount of processing, as they were pinned | |
| together with bone fasteners, rather than stitched. They were | |
| also the best material to provide protection to the body during | |
| harsh, cold winter months. | |
| With the surplus production in agriculture following the | |
| transition to sedentary life, cultivators began trading their | |
| harvest of flax, cotton, wool and goat hair for specialized | |
| services like weaving, making textiles abundantly available. | |
| Each household began to weave its own clothing. Some weavers | |
| with specialized skills began to manufacture excess clothing for | |
| trade of grains, milk and meat. Specialized weavers produced | |
| clothing with stitched patterns, dyed textiles and scraped | |
| hides.[/quote] | |
| https://www.reference.com/history/kind-clothing-did-neolithic-people-wear-4d216… | |
| #Post#: 6433-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Uneducable Gentiles | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 16, 2021, 4:00 am | |
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| https://www.jpost.com/archaeology/job-association-to-biological-sex-began-5000-… | |
| [quote]The peer-reviewed open-sourced study presented in PLOS | |
| analyzed over 400 stone tools which were buried in graves | |
| throughout Europe from the Early Neolithic period � which began | |
| approximately 5,000 years ago � to understand the use of each | |
| tool was. They then looked at the biological sex of the person | |
| it was buried with. | |
| Through this method, researchers found a consistent correlation; | |
| males were more commonly buried with tools used for hunting, | |
| butchery, woodwork, or generally violent tools, while females | |
| were more often buried with stone tools used on leather or | |
| animal hides. | |
| ... | |
| There were, however, certain geographical exceptions and | |
| differences, depending on the community in Europe, suggesting | |
| that farming patterns � and labor sharing by sex � were | |
| different as they spread across the continent. | |
| ... | |
| The study noted also that early findings suggest that females | |
| and children were more physically battered than the males, while | |
| the male adults were the ones most often found with | |
| interpersonal violent stone tools or weapons.[/quote] | |
| So, once again, teaching Gentiles to farm does not turn them | |
| into Aryans. | |
| How do I know these were Gentiles who had learned to farm? Let's | |
| go to the research paper: | |
| https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0249130#sec018 | |
| [quote]In contrast to males, females are not often associated | |
| with bone and stone tools | |
| ... | |
| It is certainly striking the fact that different dietary groups | |
| in life received different treatment after death, and that those | |
| dietary groups were tightly related to biological sex. In this | |
| sense, higher δ15N dietary values reflecting a richer | |
| protein intake tended to be related to male individuals. In | |
| turn, the higher those δ15N values were, more were males | |
| likely to be buried with more stone and bone tools[/quote] | |
| #Post#: 6550-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Uneducable Gentiles | |
| By: rp Date: May 20, 2021, 9:47 pm | |
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| Indus Valley diet consisted of pig and cattle meat: | |
| https://youtu.be/M_nT1XWTWvQ | |
| Not surprising. | |
| As the saying goes, you can take a non-Aryan (Vanavasi) to the | |
| water (river Indus).... | |
| #Post#: 13097-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Uneducable Gentiles | |
| By: rp Date: April 26, 2022, 10:05 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| https://youtu.be/QlwnBy16W0E | |
| More about kimchi: | |
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi | |
| [Quote] | |
| Kimchi (/ˈkɪmtʃiː/; Korean: | |
| 김치, romanized: gimchi, IPA: [kim.tɕʰi]), | |
| is a traditional Korean side dish of salted and fermented | |
| vegetables, such as napa cabbage and Korean radish. A wide | |
| selection of seasonings are used, including gochugaru (Korean | |
| chili powder), spring onions, garlic, ginger, and jeotgal | |
| (salted seafood), etc.[1][2] Kimchi is also used in a variety of | |
| soups and stews. As a staple food in Korean cuisine, it is eaten | |
| as a side dish with almost every Korean meal.[3] | |
| [/Quote] | |
| I suspect it was gentiles that introduced the seafood seasoning, | |
| given what we know about fishing gentiles being the first to | |
| learn Aryan crafts. | |
| The origins of Kimchi seem to substantiate this: | |
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi#Early_history | |
| [Quote] | |
| Samguk Sagi, a historical record of the Three Kingdoms of Korea, | |
| also mentions the pickle jar used to ferment vegetables, which | |
| indicates that fermented vegetables were commonly eaten during | |
| this time.[19][20] During the Silla dynasty (57 BC � AD 935), | |
| kimchi became prevalent as Buddhism caught on throughout the | |
| nation and fostered a vegetarian lifestyle.[21] | |
| [/Quote] | |
| #Post#: 25378-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non-Aryan tribalism | |
| By: antihellenistic Date: March 9, 2024, 4:49 pm | |
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| Ancient Root of Endless Competition and Economic Capitalism | |
| [quote]Should we be surprised that Diamond�s assessment of | |
| Europe�s uniqueness in comparison to the Americas is only about | |
| its lethal diseases and weapons? In his remarkably successful | |
| book, Guns, Germs, and Steel (1997), he contends that the | |
| ultimate causes for the faster rate of development of the | |
| Eurasian continent in relation to the other continents were the | |
| greater availability of potentially domesticable species and a | |
| geography conducive to the diffusion of useful species. He | |
| further argues, though in far less detail, that Europe�s | |
| advantage over China within the Eurasian landmass lay in its | |
| geographical fragmentation in contrast to China�s open spaces, | |
| which made centralization early on in its history possible, | |
| whereas Europe�s division resulted in the generation of a highly | |
| competitive inter-state system which promoted technological | |
| innovations and the pursuit of power. I will address this | |
| argument later. | |
| ... | |
| Snooks�s work, however, needs to be supplemented by more | |
| empirically-oriented historical accounts. Peter Bogucki�s The | |
| Origins of Human Society (1999) synthesizes recent findings and | |
| interpretive issues in world prehistory, bringing | |
| archeologically-based insights into a book written in the grand | |
| overview tradition of classical evolutionary theory. The | |
| argument he advances, plainly stated, is that among hunting and | |
| gathering societies there were already present ambitious | |
| individuals who wanted to enhance their self-interest. He | |
| borrows this idea from Brian Hayden (1995), whom I cited earlier | |
| in reference to the �self-interested� behavior of big men. He | |
| draws from J. E. Clark and M. Blake (1989) the term | |
| �aggrandizer� to refer to any ambitious and aggressive | |
| individual striving to achieve a higher status by economic | |
| means. Hayden is quite explicit in asserting that individual | |
| self-interest is �the ultimate determining force behind human | |
| behavior� (23). This is an assumption that is at the base of all | |
| evolutionary or sociobiological models. This is not to say that | |
| all humans are uniformly wired to maximize their self-interest. | |
| Rather, being self-interested is a central aspect of our human | |
| nature, which manifests itself in different ways across history, | |
| and to a higher degree among some individuals. These �individual | |
| aggrandizers� were kept in check during much of the hunting and | |
| gathering era. They were given freer rein only when it became | |
| possible to pursue one�s self-interest without threatening the | |
| survival chances of the villagers. Bogucki follows this line of | |
| reasoning to argue, in his case study of Europe, that until | |
| about 12,000 years ago Paleolithic bands kept these individuals | |
| in check insofar as it was in the survival interests of everyone | |
| to enforce strong sharing norms. But with the end of the Ice | |
| Age, new opportunities were created through a prolonged sequence | |
| of ecological changes (127�159). Essentially, these new | |
| environmental conditions came to function as incubators for | |
| individual aggrandizers who were finally afforded with | |
| opportunities to emerge as major agents of social change (209). | |
| Rather than speaking in terms of demographic and ecological | |
| �laws of nature,� Bogucki argues that these new conditions made | |
| it possible for these individuals to make their own choices, | |
| improve their own lives, and accumulate more resources. | |
| He envisions a situation in which individual households | |
| increasingly acted independently of the collective band units, | |
| each making their own decisions regarding the acquisition of | |
| resources, property, favors, and obligations, with differential | |
| degrees of success. Given the natural inequalities between | |
| households operating under competitive conditions (in a world of | |
| scarce resources, random risks and uncertainties) the long-term | |
| outcome of such autonomous choices was the emergence of ranked | |
| tribal organizations. Bogucki avoids a �free market� image (in | |
| which some individual households would have emerged to the top | |
| by racing ahead of the others) by observing that inequality | |
| could have emerged gradually as some households dropped below a | |
| particular material baseline, while a few remained at the | |
| original level. The more successful ones � the ones with the | |
| more enterprising individuals � could thus be envisioned as | |
| consolidating and perpetuating their relative gains. As this | |
| process unfolded, the norms for cooperative sharing were further | |
| eroded, which in turn augmented interhousehold competition. | |
| According to Bogucki, by the late Neolithic Era, over the period | |
| 4000�2000 BC, Europe had undergone a �remarkable transformation� | |
| as �transegalitarian� or �ranking� tribal groups came to emerge | |
| throughout the continent, with households competing for status | |
| and prestige, and their differences becoming progressively | |
| greater, leading eventually to the formation of chiefdoms and | |
| rigid hierarchies | |
| Steven Mithen, an archeologist of Europe who specializes in the | |
| �Mesolithic� period (12,000�7,000 BC) � situated between the | |
| Upper Paleolithic and the Neolithic periods � believes that even | |
| prior to the rise of �big men� in Neolithic societies there were | |
| already signs of �intense competition� amongst complex foragers. | |
| He thinks that this competition �may have been the motor behind | |
| the innovation of new technology that allowed additional | |
| resources to be exploited so that surpluses could be created� | |
| (2002: 133). The use of pottery, sedentism, and ranking were | |
| once believed to have emerged with farming. Mithen, however, | |
| notes that these phenomena were generated during the Mesolithic | |
| era, �one of the most critical periods in European prehistory� | |
| (79). This period saw not only the end of egalitarian relations | |
| and the rise of ambitious households, but also the rise of a | |
| ranked society combined with incipient agriculture. Like | |
| Bogucki, he ties these changes to a whole sequence of | |
| environmental changes, to which I would add the end of the final | |
| cold spell known as the Younger Dryas (which lasted from about | |
| 10,800 until 9,600 BC) and with it the resulting dramatic spread | |
| of vegetation, and the migration and availability of animals. | |
| These social changes included an �immense diversification� of | |
| microlith technology, extensive use of organic materials for the | |
| manufacture of tools (93�98), substantial dwellings with | |
| numerous pits and features representing storage, fishing | |
| techniques indicating that marine resources were being | |
| �systematically exploited,� domesticated dogs and techniques | |
| such as burning, weeding, and irrigation suggesting the | |
| beginnings of cultivation and a sedentary lifestyle (100�111). | |
| Mithen portrays Mesolithic foragers as extremely knowledgeable | |
| and flexible individuals, continually making decisions from a | |
| �cost-benefit-risk perspective� (118). The marked variability in | |
| the quantity and quality of grave items suggests that the �first | |
| ranked societies of Europe appeared during the Mesolithic� | |
| (125). In addition to the �natural� distinctions of age, sex, | |
| and personality that were evident in egalitarian societies, | |
| there were new hereditary and property distinctions. These were | |
| not cultures living in a state of equilibrium waiting to be | |
| pushed into stratified relations by population pressures: �the | |
| Mesolithic was not a period of stasis in European history; | |
| rather it was a time of considerable socio-economic change� | |
| (132). Clearly, as Mithen recognizes, the intensification of | |
| economic practices brought increases in population densities and | |
| thus pressures upon land resources. These pressures, in turn, | |
| forced foragers to further diversify and improve their | |
| subsistence base, leading to the establishment of social | |
| boundaries and territoriality, and ranking and competition for | |
| status and power.[/quote] | |
| Source : | |
| The Uniqueness of Western Civilization Ricardo Duchesne page 45, | |
| 48, 49, 50 | |
| #Post#: 25398-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Western Democracy | |
| By: antihellenistic Date: March 10, 2024, 10:42 pm | |
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| Ancient Autocratic Socialist States solved the inter-group of | |
| human violence that Constantly Happened during the Stone Age era | |
| [quote]Hobbes has been persistently criticized for describing | |
| the state of nature as if it were made up of isolated | |
| individuals, but this is inaccurate. Of course, his account of | |
| the �savage people� is clearly insufficient as it was based on | |
| the scanty anthropological reports of his time. But this should | |
| not impugn the value of Hobbes�s main point, which is that the | |
| question of conflict resolution in early societies was fragilely | |
| dispersed over many competing leaders and kinship groups. | |
| Societies lacking in centralized rule in the form of codified | |
| law, police, and diplomatic treaties, were more likely to | |
| experience continuous and prolonged intergroup feuds and | |
| killings. | |
| During the last decades anthropologists and sociologists have | |
| generally believed that inter-group warfare made its appearance | |
| only after the emergence of �selfish� ruling classes. As Mead | |
| famously entitled one of her essays, �warfare is only an | |
| invention � not a biological necessity� (1940). Some scholars | |
| did acknowledge that warfare existed among a number of hunting | |
| and gathering societies, but they argued nonetheless that it | |
| �increased substantially during the horticultural era� (Lenski | |
| and Nolan 1995: 132). While Harris paid attention to the | |
| �unusual� warlike behavior of Yanamamo men living in simple | |
| horticultural cultures, he accounted for this behavior in terms | |
| of its adaptive function. It was a rather forced explanation: | |
| the Yanamamo engaged in war because this violent behavior | |
| functionally worked to encourage them to concentrate their | |
| scarce resources on the raising of future boy warriors by | |
| practicing girl infanticide, which provided an overall check on | |
| population pressure and, in turn, increased their adaptability | |
| (1974: 75�80). | |
| There is no need to appeal to this type of contrived | |
| explanation. Hunting and gathering societies experienced | |
| conflict over a wide range of issues related to scarce resources | |
| and the self-interested drives of humans over such matters as | |
| territorial rights, marriage arrangements, and restitution for | |
| past grievances. Fierce raids were common. These raids were not | |
| allowed to escalate into full-scale battles, or into wars of | |
| conquest, because hunters and gatherers had no use for more land | |
| and slaves, and because the loss of too many men could easily | |
| threaten the survival of the remaining members in the band | |
| (Snooks 1996: 271). The sociobiological or Darwinian argument is | |
| not that all humans are inevitably driven to act violently, and | |
| that all hunting and gathering societies have always been | |
| similarly warlike. Aggression is in our genes, �but only as a | |
| skill, potential, propensity, or predisposition� (Gat: 39). It | |
| is a �basic and central skill� of the human species which was | |
| selected over many millions of years of evolution as a very | |
| successful option in the struggle for survival. | |
| Gat thinks that competition for resources and reproduction is | |
| the primary cause of aggression. Humans tend to propagate | |
| rapidly when resources are abundant, and so population pressure | |
| and competition tend to be the norm in nature. But this does not | |
| mean that human competition per se is a creation of the | |
| environment. Scarce resources may intensify the competition but | |
| humans, according to Gat, are still predisposed to maximize | |
| their reproductive chances and increase their competitive | |
| advantages. Territorial disputes and raiding expeditions against | |
| other bands or tribes were actually common even in low | |
| population density areas with rich ecological niches. Gat | |
| observes that �across the whole range of hunter-gatherer | |
| societies, from the simplest to the most complex,� lethal | |
| raiding, abduction of women, and blood feuds were widespread | |
| (11�35). He calculates that, on average, �human violent | |
| mortality rates among adults in the state of nature may have | |
| been in the order of 15 percent (25 percent for the men)� � a | |
| percentage higher than for advanced civilizations even during | |
| such devastating periods of warfare as the Second Punic War | |
| (218�202 bc), the Thirty Years War (1618�48), the First World | |
| War, and the Second World War (Gat: 131�2)! | |
| What humanitarian materialists have ignored � in their emotional | |
| attachment to the �sharing and generosity� of primitive peoples | |
| � is that the rise of chiefly authority and the monopolization | |
| of force by states �promoted happiness,� to use the words of | |
| Jared Diamond, �by maintaining public order and curbing | |
| violence�(1999: 277). Diamond, a geographical determinist with | |
| strong sympathies for primitive lifestyles, correctly recognizes | |
| that the maintenance of order and the settling of disputes is �a | |
| big underappreciated advantage of centralized societies over | |
| noncentralized ones� (277). One could go further and argue that | |
| the energies that had hitherto been expended in prolonged bloody | |
| feuds could now be redirected � after the consolidation of | |
| authority at the top � against other peoples in the pursuit of | |
| conquest and glory. The worldly success, the empire-making, the | |
| grandeur we associate with Egypt, Babylonia, and Persia, would | |
| have been a historical impossibility in the state of nature. The | |
| expansion, refinement, and enrichment of man�s distinctive | |
| intellectual capacities, the realization of the potentialities | |
| of brain power developed by biological evolution, would have | |
| remained hidden without the rise of stratification, elites, and | |
| the invention of writing.[/quote] | |
| Source : | |
| The Uniqueness of Western Civilization Ricardo Duchesne page 42, | |
| 43, 44 | |
| #Post#: 31491-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: PotatoChip Date: November 28, 2025, 4:18 pm | |
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| Europe's Astonishing Hunter-Gatherer Resurgence | |
| [quote]Genetic research has that thousands of years after the | |
| first farmers spread across Europe from Anatolia, traces of | |
| Europe�s Mesolithic hunter-gatherers re-emerged in the DNA of | |
| the Neolithic farmers. And many of the Neolithic farmer male | |
| lineages were replaced with hunter-gatherer ones. This | |
| unexpected genetic signal has been called �the Late Neolithic | |
| Hunter-Gatherer Resurgence.� What happened here, and why? And | |
| how did this resurgence transform Europe?[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaNPFCV8Vic | |
| #Post#: 31492-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Uneducable Gentiles | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: November 28, 2025, 6:45 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| From the comments: | |
| [quote]the women just fancied these hunky WHG farmers | |
| more[/quote] | |
| [quote]Most likely the high protein diet of the hunter gatherer | |
| men made them bigger and stronger and thus more physically | |
| attractive to women than the farmer men[/quote] | |
| [quote]Bored village farm girls wanted dem hunter chad genes. | |
| Nothing surprising there...[/quote] | |
| [quote]chad always wins[/quote] | |
| But why? Answer: because these women were themselves of Gentile | |
| matrilineal bloodlines (due to the earlier generations of Aryan | |
| men stupidly reproducing with Gentile women during initial | |
| contact), hence preferred Gentile men. Women of Aryan | |
| matrilineal bloodlines also existed, who would have preferred | |
| Aryan men, but they were lower in sexual dimorphism and thus | |
| reproduced less than the Gentile women, thus became increasingly | |
| rare. | |
| [quote]They say that agriculture produces a more reliable food | |
| source, so you can have more children that survive, but the food | |
| is inferior with a reliance on wheat producing more people but | |
| weaker and less robust than the Hunter Gatherers. Who ate a high | |
| protein diet. They also say you can tell the bones of Steppe | |
| Herders, large and well muscled. Meat and dairy. R1b.[/quote] | |
| The food is not inferior! Food which produces robustness is | |
| inferior! Food which produces gracility is superior! Failure to | |
| recognize gracility as superior to robustness is inferior! This | |
| commenter is inferior! (Also, if this commenter is female, it | |
| would prove my point above.) | |
| [quote]were the hunter-gatherers the MAGA of their time, briefly | |
| reasserting themselves over the Woke neolithic farmers?[/quote] | |
| YES! | |
| [quote]Bread lovers BTFO.[/quote] | |
| [quote]Barbarians vs Civilised people. the story as old as the | |
| civilization itself.[/quote] | |
| [quote]I'm always reminded of the saying "Those who turned their | |
| weapons into ploughs, will be made to work for those who | |
| didn't"[/quote] | |
| Unless they first eliminate the bloodlines (patrilineal and | |
| matrilineal) of all those who didn't. This is National | |
| Socialism. | |
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