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| #Post#: 16947-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: December 8, 2022, 7:27 am | |
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| https://mobile.twitter.com/WorldWarWang/status/1600835355724259328 | |
| [Quote] | |
| Andrew Anglin | |
| @WorldWarWang | |
| I like that Hemingway overcame the sexual abuse from women he | |
| suffered as a child by killing large animals. | |
| This is very healthy. | |
| Confused young people in America should be sent on big game | |
| safaris in Africa. | |
| [Img] | |
| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjdPQxYVQAI_qcb?format=jpg&name=medium[/img] | |
| #Post#: 17606-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: January 22, 2023, 7:30 pm | |
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| [quote author=Zea_mays link=topic=151.msg6245#msg6245 | |
| date=1620543352] | |
| [quote]"Do you believe most Westerners today possess more Giant | |
| or Turanian blood?"[/quote] | |
| It seems genetic studies suggest Westerners have much more | |
| Turanian blood than Giant blood. However, a word of caution is | |
| that these studies are measuring the overall amount of | |
| DNA--which is mostly just junk DNA. | |
| In terms of phenotype, physical anthropologists in the pre-DNA | |
| days certainly saw a strong continuity between ancient | |
| Paleolithic skull morphology and present-day Westerners. So, | |
| perhaps there is more Turanian (and Neolithic) junk DNA in | |
| Europe, but it would be difficult to examine only the genes | |
| encoding for personality traits and other characteristics to | |
| make a determination as to whether Turanian or Giant traits have | |
| more prevalence. | |
| [img width=991 height=1280] | |
| https://i.imgur.com/PAWUfnS.png[/img] | |
| https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14317 | |
| Another warning is that the proportion of blood probably varies | |
| greatly between individuals--perhaps some individuals today have | |
| almost completely Paleolithic ancestry, but if the graphs are | |
| averaged out over an entire population, this might get drowned | |
| out. | |
| (I would give an additional warning that just because the | |
| Sardinians are the modern group with the most Neolithic ancestry | |
| on the chart, this doesn't necessary mean they are more noble | |
| than the other populations. Apparently, herding has been a major | |
| part of their economy there for many generations. So, even if | |
| they inherited most of their junk DNA from Neolithic farming | |
| ancestors 5,000+ years ago, doesn't mean they continued the same | |
| lifestyle and attitudes into the present.) | |
| [/quote] | |
| I believe it is Giant blood that Westerners are primarily a | |
| product of. No other part of the world came up with Western | |
| Civilization independently and spontaneously, despite other | |
| parts of the world having Turanian blood. It is the uniqueness | |
| of Giant blood memory and the ethnocentrism it produces that | |
| makes this possible. What do you think? | |
| #Post#: 17628-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: guest90 Date: January 23, 2023, 9:35 am | |
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| Western civilisation is primarily a product of Jewish (Turanian) | |
| influence. Everything from its aesthetics and technology to its | |
| values and colonialism are Turanian. | |
| Turanian architecture: | |
| [img width=1280 | |
| height=853] | |
| https://www.theflorentine.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/synagogue_florence_ph-… | |
| Western architecture: | |
| https://live.staticflickr.com/3904/14501009908_62b6a2a14c_b.jpg | |
| And for comparison with another Turanian civilisation, Vedic | |
| architecture: | |
| [img] | |
| https://miro.medium.com/max/750/1*fZI7NOdBVr2gtElLtewuRA.webp[/img] | |
| The desire for complexity is more of a Turanian trait, not a | |
| Giant one. Hunter/giant types lived in pre-Columbus America, and | |
| their civilisations were nowhere near as complex as the ones | |
| that neighboured the steppe (India/China/Europe). As for | |
| ethnocentrism, Giants, like other hunter types, were typically | |
| more isolationist, unlike Turanians who have a drive to expand | |
| their slave pool and resources (colonialism). | |
| However, the boredom and restlessness that a lot of westerners | |
| seem to experience is likely a product of Giant/hunter-gatherer | |
| blood memory. That blend could have given them an edge over | |
| other gentile civilisations (combine Giant/hunter boredom with | |
| Turanian/herder expansionism and you have Western | |
| progressivism). | |
| #Post#: 18243-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: March 3, 2023, 3:11 am | |
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| "As for ethnocentrism, Giants, like other hunter types, were | |
| typically more isolationist, unlike Turanians who have a drive | |
| to expand their slave pool and resources (colonialism)." | |
| Yes. Turanians would need to expand the grazing area for their | |
| livestock as the population grew. In contrast, hunters can stay | |
| in the same area and hunt the prey until they are extinct, | |
| following which they will shift to a new area. | |
| #Post#: 18303-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Turanian diffusion | |
| By: Guest Date: March 8, 2023, 12:58 pm | |
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| Ever Spotted a Doppelg�nger Food? | |
| [quote]Your favorite dish may have a mysterious twin.[/quote] | |
| [quote]During my first trip to Oaxaca, Mexico, I snapped a photo | |
| of a banana leaf-wrapped rectangle. I immediately sent the photo | |
| to my mom, writing, �Look! Mexican zongzi!� | |
| If you had told me that this mole-laced tamal oaxaque�o was a | |
| zongzi, one of my favorite Chinese snacks, I would have believed | |
| you. A dumpling of savory-sweet sticky rice wrapped and steamed | |
| in banana or bamboo leaves, zongzi bears a remarkable similarity | |
| to this type of tamal, despite its origins on the other side of | |
| the globe. | |
| These leafy lookalikes are far from the world�s only culinary | |
| doppelg�ngers. Give cooks similar resources (say, large leaves, | |
| starch, and a little meat) and similar pressures (�How do we | |
| turn a sticky, soft dough into an easy-to-eat meal?�) and they | |
| may come up with the same solution. | |
| This week, we�re sharing culinary look-alikes that may make you | |
| do a double-take before you dig in.[/quote] | |
| [quote]In California, which has large Mexican and Chinese | |
| populations, zongzi are often called �Chinese tamales.� But | |
| despite their resemblance, the two delicacies predate any | |
| recorded contact between China and the Americas...[/quote] | |
| [quote]Meanwhile, the Dresden Codex, a Mayan text from the 11th | |
| or 12th century, features corn-husk tamales stuffed with deer, | |
| iguana, turkey, and fish, though some scholars speculate that | |
| tamales have been around since 8000 BC. Bananas and their broad | |
| leaves did not enter the picture until the Spanish brought them | |
| to the Americas in the 1500s, but since then, they have been | |
| adopted as the wrapper of choice in much of Central America and | |
| Southern Mexico. | |
| Today, cooks fill zongzi�s sticky rice with meat, seafood, nuts, | |
| sweet bean paste, and fruit, and tamal-makers stuff banana | |
| leaves with a rich corn masa and everything from chocolate to | |
| herbs to chicken in mole sauce. | |
| The two civilizations that birthed these foods may have been | |
| unaware of one another, but it seems that they stumbled upon the | |
| same truth: broad leaves are unmatched for wrapping compact, | |
| aromatic, and delicious dumplings.[/quote] | |
| [quote]My friend recently traveled to Hawai�i and tried the | |
| state�s comfort food, the platter of rice topped with a | |
| hamburger patty, gravy, and a fried egg known as Loco Moco. As a | |
| native of Rochester, New York, he was thrilled: The dish was | |
| very similar to his hometown�s beloved Garbage Plate, a heaping | |
| pile of diner starches, such as home fries and macaroni salad, | |
| topped with a hamburger patty and covered in a spicy meat sauce. | |
| Diners can add macaroni salad to a Loco Moco, or an egg to a | |
| Garbage Plate, making these layered, saucy hamburger plates | |
| close to identical. �Did one inspire the other?� he wondered to | |
| me. | |
| If the fast-food legends are true, these gut-busters are two | |
| independent solutions to the same problem: young eaters with | |
| fast metabolisms and empty wallets. In 1949, Richard and Nancy | |
| Inouye, owners of Hilo�s Lincoln Grill Restaurant, supposedly | |
| came up with the Loco Moco at the behest of members of a local | |
| teen football club that needed something inexpensive to fill | |
| their bottomless stomachs. | |
| Similarly, Rochester�s Nick Tahou, who holds the trademark for | |
| �Garbage Plate,� invented his protein-and-carbohydrate monster | |
| after a group of college students asked him for a plate �with | |
| all the garbage� on it... | |
| [img width=1280 | |
| height=448] | |
| https://img.atlasobscura.com/iClVWDKDJadEMzp8dTpb_5nTi6OkRIMfcQIVnNekj8w/rs:fil… | |
| Loco Mocos and Garbage Plates are beloved fast foods in Hawaii | |
| and Rochester, New York, respectively. Right, Steven Miller, | |
| cropped/Left, Eugene Peretz, cropped[/quote] | |
| Entire article: | |
| https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/conchas-and-melonpan?utm_source=pocket-ne… | |
| #Post#: 18389-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: March 12, 2023, 3:36 pm | |
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| I was reading about Gentile vs Turanian blood memory, and I came | |
| across this comment from Hashtali on Aryanism.net: | |
| http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/western-civilization-late-20th-century… | |
| [quote] | |
| I am still sensing a Giant part, and for the democracy-related | |
| reason I mentioned in an earlier comment. More recently, though, | |
| I�ve been considering that there might be two independent (but | |
| not mutually exclusive) mainstream anti-monarchic philosophies: | |
| constitutionalism and democratism. The two might be the product | |
| of Turanian and Gentile blood respectively, and the mix of the | |
| two races within the Pelasgian would explain why | |
| constitutionalism and democratism are so thoroughly mixed in the | |
| West. | |
| Constitutionalists (in which I include traditionalists and all | |
| those who seek to limit a king�s power) argue that power | |
| corrupts, but their focus solely on the absolute power (usually | |
| of a king) shows that what they�re actually concerned about is a | |
| higher power challenging their own (or their favored | |
| slavemaster�s) within their sphere of influence (as you pointed | |
| out is true for anarchists, for example). But this doesn�t mean | |
| they are necessarily democrats, because absolute power in the | |
| hands of the majority/masses could still threaten their own | |
| power. I think this attitude is similar to what the TOO article | |
| was saying about �aristocratic egalitarianism�. Also, I�ve | |
| noticed that whenever I bring up my disdain for democracy and | |
| support for aristocracy to a relative who I increasingly believe | |
| is Turanian, he always misses the point and arrogantly says | |
| something about �the masses being herds needing to be led�. But | |
| this guy is also opposed to absolute monarchy. (I don�t think | |
| he�s ideologically consistent enough to say what he prefers | |
| instead, but his Catholicism combined with his comment about | |
| herds indicates what alternatives he favors intuitively.) | |
| Democrats, on the other hand, are fully for giving power to the | |
| majority/masses. Democratic socialists, communists, and some | |
| variants of the far-right are good examples of this collectivist | |
| tendency (though they usually define majority/masses | |
| differently). Their anti-monarchism might have to do in part | |
| with what I was saying earlier about anti-Aryan Giant blood | |
| memory. However, more broadly, I think a Gentile blood memory is | |
| attuned to a hunter-gatherer society whose economy does not | |
| permit, as they put it, social stratification. Power in | |
| hunter-gatherer societies is indeed usually not concentrated in | |
| individuals and more collectivized. (Note that Marxists believe | |
| hunter-gatherers were/are essentially primitive communists. | |
| Also, JJ, remember what we were talking about in private about | |
| Deep Green Resistance and other egalitarians who see | |
| hunter-gatherer societies as some pristine havens of | |
| egalitarianism? I think this is where it might come from.) | |
| Most people usually hold some combination of the two | |
| philosophies. I would guess the West�s ability to combine the | |
| two so thoroughly is a testament to Pelasgians being a mixed | |
| Turanian-Giant group.[/quote] | |
| I definitely agree with this. More broadly, we could describe | |
| the Turanian attitude as hubris, and the Gentile (more | |
| specifically Giant) attitude as plebian hubris. | |
| #Post#: 18809-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: April 10, 2023, 9:44 pm | |
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| 3D video games meets Giant blood memory: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqhs_mcWMx4 | |
| It seems that this was inevitably the end goal of 3D games, | |
| looking back. Especially the first person perspective (which I | |
| always hated, even more than 3rd person perspective 3D games), | |
| which is heavily dependent on spatial intelligence, which would | |
| have been selected for in hunter-gather societies. | |
| #Post#: 18831-------------------------------------------------- | |
| The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers | |
| By: 2ThaSun Date: April 12, 2023, 3:06 pm | |
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| * At time of posting on this forum I have not listened to the | |
| entirety of this lecture yet, but at around 4 minutes in the | |
| host starts getting into the Rousseauians and Jared Diamond's | |
| argument against agriculture... | |
| The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers | |
| [quote]This is an archived video of UNL anthropologist Raymond | |
| Hames presenting his April 14 Nebraska Lecture.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa6fok_GQJU | |
| #Post#: 18905-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers | |
| By: TruthAboutHunterGatherers Date: April 16, 2023, 5:35 pm | |
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| [quote author=2ThaSun link=topic=151.msg18831#msg18831 | |
| date=1681329978] | |
| * At time of posting on this forum I have not listened to the | |
| entirety of this lecture yet, but at around 4 minutes in the | |
| host starts getting into the Rousseauians and Jared Diamond's | |
| argument against agriculture... | |
| The Truth about Hunter-Gatherers | |
| [quote]This is an archived video of UNL anthropologist Raymond | |
| Hames presenting his April 14 Nebraska Lecture.[/quote] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa6fok_GQJU[/quote] | |
| So the biggest takeaway I've gotten so far from the above | |
| lecture 30 minutes in is that hunter-gatherers were "fiercely | |
| egalitarian", more war like than even modern human hybrids, and | |
| calling hunter-gatherers "ecological noble savages" is a bunch | |
| of BS! :) I also enjoyed how the subject of colonialism even | |
| made it into this lecture. | |
| #Post#: 19027-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: April 26, 2023, 10:58 am | |
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| https://twitter.com/LakotaMan1/status/1651062072455888897 | |
| [quote]Lakota Man | |
| @LakotaMan1 | |
| This is why we never ever disclose the locations of our sacred | |
| white animals. | |
| [img] | |
| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FunANGHaUAAskdC?format=jpg&name=large[/img] | |
| [/quote] | |
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