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| #Post#: 6427-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: May 16, 2021, 2:13 am | |
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| Gentile "art": | |
| https://blog.samys.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/3e2e0ba0c145a5d4729a725b4c38d… | |
| https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/c3/fd/60c3fd3c5492abfb055ea0e33bfdafaf.jpg | |
| [img width=1280 | |
| height=708] | |
| https://uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/9267c612-6ac2-4c00-bacf-c651ee… | |
| Gentiles apparently found hunting so worthy of glorifying that | |
| they decided to make "art" depicting their endeavors. | |
| #Post#: 6434-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: Dazhbog Date: May 16, 2021, 5:34 am | |
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| [quote author=rp link=topic=151.msg6427#msg6427 | |
| date=1621149185]Gentile "art"[/quote] | |
| To be fair, I have no problem with the art style as such. From a | |
| purely aesthetic point of view, I actually do like these | |
| paintings due to their simplicity and abundance of empty space. | |
| [quote author=rp link=topic=151.msg6427#msg6427 | |
| date=1621149185]Gentiles apparently found hunting so worthy of | |
| glorifying that they decided to make "art" depicting their | |
| endeavors.[/quote] | |
| This is the actual issue. Instead of siding with the innocent, | |
| distressed prey, as we would... | |
| [spoiler][img width=1280 | |
| height=708] | |
| https://uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/9267c612-6ac2-4c00-bacf-c651ee… | |
| ...they choose to side with the predators going after them like | |
| a gang of typical high school bullies. | |
| In other words, the ignobility of these cave paintings isn't a | |
| matter of their style nor their substance, but the artists' | |
| interpretation of the latter. Whereas we would frame them as | |
| depicting the brutality of hunting, Gentiles frame them as | |
| depicting its glory. | |
| #Post#: 6436-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: May 16, 2021, 10:03 am | |
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| I see! We could use them to illustrate the inferiority of | |
| Gentiles! | |
| #Post#: 6439-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: Dazhbog Date: May 16, 2021, 1:48 pm | |
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| [quote author=rp link=topic=151.msg6436#msg6436 | |
| date=1621177393]I see! We could use them to illustrate the | |
| inferiority of Gentiles![/quote] | |
| I actually like the thought that these paintings influenced at | |
| least some of our ancestors in their decision to reject their | |
| more primitive contemporaries' violent lifestyle. I strongly | |
| believe that empathy and artistic sensitivity are intrinsically | |
| linked. Graphic hunting depictions such as your examples or this | |
| painting... | |
| [spoiler] | |
| https://www.scienceabc.com/wp-content/uploads/ext-www.scienceabc.com/wp-content… | |
| ...would surely convince anyone with the slightest sense of | |
| compassion that hunting is evil, even if they had no conception | |
| of the prey's suffering before! | |
| #Post#: 6440-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: May 16, 2021, 1:57 pm | |
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| "Gentiles frame them as depicting its glory." | |
| To support this point, we could also note that cave paintings | |
| depicting gathering are far rarer (in fact I myself have yet to | |
| come across one!) If hunting scenes were painted purely as a | |
| celebration of being able to obtain food, we would at least | |
| expect gathering scenes to also have been painted with similar | |
| frequency. That the latter were not suggests, as you say, that | |
| the emphasis was on glory, whereupon indeed gathering scenes | |
| would not have been painted as gathering is generally much less | |
| difficult/dangerous. | |
| #Post#: 6752-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: rp Date: May 27, 2021, 6:53 pm | |
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| What "Native Americans" (Paleo-Indian Gentiles) ate before | |
| "Europeans" arrived: | |
| https://youtu.be/tUjfJ2PScPM | |
| #Post#: 7129-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil | |
| By: rp Date: June 13, 2021, 12:21 pm | |
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| Lobster Diver survives after being swallowed by Humpback Whale: | |
| https://youtu.be/E4XtnSNGjU0 | |
| Demiurge strikes again... | |
| #Post#: 7140-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 14, 2021, 12:23 am | |
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| This shit has happened before! | |
| https://pictures.abebooks.com/isbn/9781844776795-uk-300.jpg | |
| #Post#: 7143-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil | |
| By: rp Date: June 14, 2021, 12:47 am | |
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| Wow! History sure repeats itself, doesn't it? | |
| Cape Cod lobster diver�s Jonah moment | |
| https://www.nationalfisherman.com/northeast/cape-cod-lobster-diver-s-jonah-mome… | |
| BTW, note his facial expression: | |
| [img] | |
| https://divcomplatform.s3.amazonaws.com/www.nationalfisherman.com/images/fe8cc7… | |
| #Post#: 7180-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Gentilism | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: June 16, 2021, 3:59 am | |
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| https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/case-closed-35-000-year-old-murder-of-a-bea… | |
| [quote]About 35,000 years ago, a bear died in a cave in Siberia. | |
| It was a small cave bear � also known as the Russian cave bear, | |
| even though the first specimen was found in Britain. The problem | |
| was that the small cave bear wasn�t alone in the cave. | |
| Apparently a human was there and speared the bear in the head, | |
| possibly while it was in a hibernation stupor, scientists | |
| suspect. | |
| ... | |
| Large cave bears could rear up to more than 3 meters (nearly 10 | |
| feet) in height. Small ones were also probably best killed while | |
| asleep. But it bears adding that they seem to have been | |
| vegetarian, unlikely to have been hunting the humans for food | |
| for themselves. | |
| So what have we here? In a cave, a vegetarian small cave bear | |
| died 35,000 years ago in the sort of cave people also liked to | |
| occupy.[/quote] | |
| 35000 years later: | |
| [img] | |
| https://www.huntinfool.com/cache/ArticleImage369w600MAR.jpg?20190513091451[/img] | |
| [img] | |
| https://worldwidetrophyadventures.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/wta_1323_1DJ1P… | |
| https://huntwithcody.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Bear-Hunting-with-Cody.jpg | |
| https://huntwithcody.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Bear-hunt-Montana.jpg | |
| https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nUTcIwCg7ow/maxresdefault.jpg | |
| https://storage.cdn.bookyourhunt.com/images/b271d0c4-1bcc-49e4-8f47-022acc341ef… | |
| [img] | |
| https://flattopswildernessguides.com/wp-content/themes/construct/lib/scripts/ti… | |
| https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CBg-ZDQOIAI/maxresdefault.jpg | |
| https://larsenbaylodge.com/images/gallery216.jpg | |
| https://sashunts.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Jim-Parent-Kodiak-768x660.jpg | |
| https://www.whiteswoodsandwaters.com/fishing/bear%20hunt%20pics%20added%202012/… | |
| https://clamlakeguide.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/northernwisconsinbea… | |
| https://storage.cdn.bookyourhunt.com/images/5054b0a5-3ed0-4067-96f3-cef3262dd27… | |
| https://focusingonwildlife.com/news/wp-content/uploads/black_bear_hunting.jpg | |
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