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| #Post#: 22839-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: October 16, 2023, 5:54 pm | |
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| This is why it is important to emphasize Indo-Arab relations | |
| (which has a rich history from the Ancient Times to the Middle | |
| Ages to the present day) as a counterweight to the Pakistanis | |
| (who LARP as Turkic invaders). Once we see the difference | |
| between the two ethnic groups, I hope Islamophobia itself in the | |
| subcontinent will die down. | |
| #Post#: 22840-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 16, 2023, 7:02 pm | |
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| Meanwhile back in the present day: | |
| [img] | |
| https://incels.is/attachments/images-19-jpeg.896842/[/img] | |
| ::) | |
| #Post#: 23693-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: November 13, 2023, 12:08 pm | |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eATr7e03N6w | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Khan#Early_life_and_education | |
| [Quote] | |
| Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan was born in Chakwal, Punjab, British | |
| India,[5] in a Qizilbash family on 4 February 1917, according to | |
| the references written by Russian sources.[6][7] His family | |
| descended from the elite soldier class of Iranian conqueror | |
| Nader Shah.[8] He and his family were of Pashtun | |
| origin.[9][10][11][12][13][14][15] | |
| [/Quote] | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nader_Shah#Background | |
| [Quote] | |
| Nader belonged to the Turkoman Afshar tribe, which was one of | |
| the seven tribes[a] of the Qizilbash who helped the Safavid | |
| dynasty establish their power in Iran.[15][16] The Afshar tribe | |
| had originally lived in the Turkestan region, but during the | |
| 13rd-century they moved to the Azerbaijan region in northwestern | |
| Iran as a result of the expansion of the Mongol Empire.[17] | |
| Nader was from the semi-nomadic Qirqlu clan of the Afshars, | |
| which lived in the Khorasan region of northeastern Iran. They | |
| had either settled there during the reign of the first Safavid | |
| Shah Ismail I (r. 1501�1524), or had been resettled by | |
| Shah Abbas I (r. 1588�1629) to fend off Uzbek attacks. | |
| Regardless, Afshars moving to Khorasan was already taking place | |
| by start of the 16th-century.[18][19] | |
| Nader's native tongue was a southern Oghuz dialect, i.e. | |
| "Turkish of Azerbaijan".[20] As he was growing up, he must have | |
| swiftly learned Persian, which was the language of the cities | |
| and high culture. But unless he was speaking to someone who | |
| spoke only Persian, he always preferred to communicate in | |
| Turkic.[21] His knowledge of Arabic is not documented, but it | |
| seems doubtful given his lack of interest in literature and | |
| theology.[22] Nader is known to have acquired reading and | |
| writing skills at some point in its life, probably later on.[21] | |
| Approximately three million people or more were nomadic or | |
| semi-nomadic pastoralists in Iran in the beginning of the | |
| 18th-century, accounting for one-third of the country's | |
| population. Strong ties of kinship as well as customs of helping | |
| each other out with fights and finances kept their tribal groups | |
| united. Despite being partially or fully absorbed into the more | |
| progressive, urbanized Persian culture, many of them | |
| nevertheless identified culturally with the Turco-Mongol | |
| heritage that had been passed down from the era of Timur and | |
| Genghis Khan. The settled population was seen by the semi-nomads | |
| and nomads as inferior. [B]Nader was part of this heritage[/b], | |
| which the British academic Michael Axworthy calls | |
| "paradoxical".[21][/quote] | |
| Shah should not be described as an Iranian, but a Turanian. | |
| #Post#: 24443-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: December 14, 2023, 8:10 pm | |
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| LOL: | |
| https://twitter.com/arya_amsha/status/1591107821948768259?t=kW1Xia-6n3D_6EWHdO3… | |
| [Quote] | |
| Mongolian chronicles sometimes traced the genealogy of Genghis | |
| Khan back to the first mythical Kings of India. He was also said | |
| to belong to the same lineage as the Buddha Shakyamuni, and | |
| hence would technically be a Suryavanshi Kshatriya | |
| [img width=1280 | |
| height=619] | |
| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhS_zypUAAohcjN?format=png&name=large[/img] | |
| [img width=1280 | |
| height=333] | |
| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhS_8cMUAAo_33p?format=png&name=large[/img] | |
| #Post#: 24649-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: January 2, 2024, 5:47 am | |
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| https://twitter.com/BiruniKhorasan/status/1738132831967055958 | |
| [quote] | |
| History of Khor�san and the Persianate World | |
| @BiruniKhorasan | |
| Timur wasn�t an �Muslim imperialist� but a steppe conqueror. His | |
| role model was Genghis Khan not Prophet Muhammad. He butchered | |
| more Muslims (mostly indiscriminately and for little reason) | |
| than non-Muslims. | |
| Using a historical barbarian to justify your own barbarism is | |
| stupidity. | |
| [quote]Post | |
| See new posts | |
| Conversation | |
| Swann Marcus | |
| @SwannMarcus89 | |
| He wasn't Arab, but if we're talking about Muslim imperialists, | |
| Timur alone killed several million people at a time when there | |
| were only 300-400 million in the entire world | |
| He died less than a century before Columbus' voyage. Why was | |
| European imperialism worse than his?[/quote][/quote] | |
| #Post#: 24651-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: January 2, 2024, 4:36 pm | |
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| To answer the question: | |
| [quote]He died less than a century before Columbus' voyage. Why | |
| was European imperialism worse than his?[/quote] | |
| both Timur and Genghis subjugated Mongols as well as | |
| non-Mongols. Columbus etc., in contrast, never subjugated | |
| "whites", but at the same time saw no problem with subjugating | |
| "non-whites". This is why the latter are worse. The Western | |
| colonial empires treated "whites" even from rival Western | |
| colonial empires visiting their colonies better than | |
| "non-whites" of their own empire who lived in the same colonies. | |
| #Post#: 24804-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: January 12, 2024, 9:18 pm | |
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| https://twitter.com/DalrympleWill/status/1125482695369400322 | |
| [quote] | |
| William Dalrymple | |
| @DalrympleWill | |
| If you mention Babur on twitter a million sanghis pop up to say | |
| Babur was a terrorist jihadi... In fact he never uses the word | |
| Allah, prefering the term Tengri- the sky deity worshipped by | |
| steppe peoples. According to his biographer Stephen Dale, "Babur | |
| scarcely refers to Islam."[/quote] | |
| #Post#: 28322-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: October 18, 2024, 5:22 pm | |
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| [img] | |
| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLxjVZoXoAAJSFl?format=jpg&name=medium[/img] | |
| #Post#: 28327-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: 90sRetroFan Date: October 18, 2024, 9:47 pm | |
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| The same text was already posted here: | |
| https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/re-turanian-diffusion/msg945/#m… | |
| The photo in your version is good, though. Not only the | |
| physiognomy, but also even the facial expressions and body | |
| language capture the Mongol archetype. | |
| #Post#: 28328-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Genghis Khan | |
| By: rp Date: October 18, 2024, 9:51 pm | |
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| "facial expressions and body language capture the Mongol | |
| archetype." | |
| How? I can see the body language such as biceps flexing, but | |
| what about facial expressions? | |
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