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| #Post#: 1232-------------------------------------------------- | |
| I want a toy | |
| By: italynstylion Date: August 2, 2011, 9:32 am | |
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| Some of you might remember that I finally paid off my truck in | |
| May. I'm really stoked about not having a car payment for the | |
| time being. | |
| That being said, it's been quite some time since I've owned | |
| anything sporty with a manual transmission and I'm itching to | |
| get myself a toy. I'm not sure when it will happen but next | |
| spring might be a good time. That will give me time to put aside | |
| a decent amount of money. | |
| Regardless, I'm looking for ideas on what to get. I'm wanting | |
| something fun. I'd define that as something powerful and fast | |
| that will put you back in your seat. I also want it to handle | |
| quite well. I wont be tracking the car more than likely since | |
| track time is retarded expensive but I still want great driving | |
| feel and ability. I also want something that is nice to look at | |
| too. I don't want some beater with rust all over it that looks | |
| like it may die at any moment. | |
| I'm not getting rid of the truck, this car will be an addition. | |
| So considering the truck meets EVERY life need that I have this | |
| second toy can be stupid impractical. Gas mileage isn't a | |
| concern, 2 seater is fine, and reliability doesn't really matter | |
| too much. Front wheel drive need not apply. I'm only looking for | |
| RWD or AWD and the potential for large power numbers or a large | |
| power to weight ratio. | |
| What I'm Considering | |
| 3rd Generation RX7 has always been on my vehicle bucket list. | |
| I've almost bought one multiple times. I think the best course | |
| of action for this one would be to find a clean chassis that's | |
| well kept but has a blown up engine. Do the LS1 conversion (I | |
| hear it's quite easy) and have a ridiculous vehicle is pretty | |
| much every aspect. | |
| The Lexus IS300 is one of my top picks as well. I owned one of | |
| these before the truck and it was great. I always wanted to | |
| turbocharge it but never ended up doing it because it was my | |
| only car. The car comes with the non turbo 2jz-ge engine which I | |
| would swap for the GTE turbo engine or just build the stock | |
| block and run a ton of boost. It's a great all around car and | |
| actually extremely practical in pretty much every way. It would | |
| be a 600whp 4 door daily driver. And it would be reliable too. | |
| There's just something appealing about it | |
| Lotus Elise is also something I've been looking at. Used ones | |
| aren't that expensive. The power potential isn't nearly as high | |
| as the other two but the power to weight ratio makes it a mute | |
| point. I'd imagine it's a blast to drive and looking at it would | |
| put a smile on my face every time. | |
| What else should I be looking at? Any suggestions? | |
| #Post#: 1235-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: angel279 Date: August 2, 2011, 11:38 am | |
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| when i started reading this, and u were saying what u wanted, | |
| all i could think of was the rx7 and is300 haha and then thats | |
| what u r thinking in getting, by what i read that u want, i | |
| think those are the best choices there are. | |
| #Post#: 1238-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: italynstylion Date: August 2, 2011, 11:58 am | |
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| There are a few concerns from what I can tell. | |
| IS300 | |
| Stock transmission will need to be replaced. The manual | |
| transmission models are hard to find. The vehicle itself will | |
| likely be more expensive but is likely to be in better | |
| condition. The V160 or V161 transmission will be top of my list | |
| but they are expensive and hard to find. The R154 is a 5speed | |
| but is easier to find. Both are drop in replacements. | |
| I've also pondered getting an automatic IS300 since I'll be | |
| replacing the transmission anyway. The thought process on this | |
| was that it would give me a bigger pool of vehicles to choose | |
| from so I could likely get a nicer overall vehicle with less | |
| miles for less money. That being said, I'll need to swap the | |
| gauge clusters and the center consoles for the corresponding | |
| parts for the manual vehicle. | |
| RX7 | |
| It's a really old car and will likely need a lot of work unless | |
| I buy one that's in GREAT condition. I'm thinking the vehicle | |
| will be less money but if I get one that's well kept it could | |
| even be MORE. The LS1 engine/transmission swap is stupid easy | |
| and has been perfected already. That much power in a 2800lbs car | |
| would be amazing. My guess is I'll need a repaint and some | |
| suspension/chassis work. This could come out more expensive in | |
| the long run too. | |
| Pros of the RX7 | |
| -Better handling | |
| -Sexy | |
| -You don't see them any more | |
| -Holy shit fast with the V8 | |
| Pros of the IS300 | |
| -More utility | |
| -Newer | |
| -I've owned one before | |
| -Holy shit fast....while carrying 4 of your friends | |
| #Post#: 1245-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: Blakd Date: August 2, 2011, 1:59 pm | |
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| 1986 Toyota corolla AE86 | |
| #Post#: 1246-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: italynstylion Date: August 2, 2011, 2:54 pm | |
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| [quote author=Blakd link=topic=149.msg1245#msg1245 | |
| date=1312311571] | |
| 1986 Toyota corolla AE86 | |
| [/quote] | |
| That car really doesn't have much appeal to me. I never | |
| understood the hype behind it. | |
| I want something a bit ridiculous. I can only justify buying a | |
| second vehicle if it's so absurd it couldn't (or shouldn't) be | |
| my only vehicle. | |
| #Post#: 1247-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: lockston Date: August 2, 2011, 3:44 pm | |
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| Then the lotus is right for you. | |
| The AE86 was from Initial D, basically mainstreamed drifting I | |
| guess. Some japanese dude raced his tofu delivery car against | |
| rx7's and skylines and that sort. Its the original tokyo drift | |
| kind of. | |
| #Post#: 1248-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: Blakd Date: August 2, 2011, 4:16 pm | |
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| Yea. Low power but high torque. With a 4g in it and the light | |
| weight of it you can easily break the rear end free. | |
| The IS300 would be nice with a wide bodykit but impractical if | |
| you ever want to drive it on the streets if you build it up. | |
| I would shy away from the RX7. Unless I was doing a v6 or V8 | |
| swap. That's just me. | |
| Datson 300 with 359 swap would be Hella fun also. | |
| But it is not up to us. So just my options and opinion | |
| #Post#: 1249-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: italynstylion Date: August 2, 2011, 4:38 pm | |
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| [quote author=lockston link=topic=149.msg1247#msg1247 | |
| date=1312317876] | |
| Then the lotus is right for you. | |
| The AE86 was from Initial D, basically mainstreamed drifting I | |
| guess. Some japanese dude raced his tofu delivery car against | |
| rx7's and skylines and that sort. Its the original tokyo drift | |
| kind of. | |
| [/quote] | |
| The Lotus looks like mad fun, but is the top of my price range | |
| for sure. I think the only problems with it are the fact that | |
| I'd always be kicking myself for not getting the Exige and they | |
| don't have a very high power potential. I really need to go | |
| drive one. | |
| [quote author=Blakd link=topic=149.msg1248#msg1248 | |
| date=1312319777] | |
| Yea. Low power but high torque. With a 4g in it and the light | |
| weight of it you can easily break the rear end free. | |
| The IS300 would be nice with a wide bodykit but impractical if | |
| you ever want to drive it on the streets if you build it up. | |
| I would shy away from the RX7. Unless I was doing a v6 or V8 | |
| swap. That's just me. | |
| Datson 300 with 359 swap would be Hella fun also. | |
| But it is not up to us. So just my options and opinion | |
| [/quote] | |
| I'm really not interested in breaking the rear end loose though. | |
| In fact, I'd prefer a car that has ridiculous traction. | |
| See I'm thinking the IS300 is likely the MOST practical out of | |
| any of the options. Four doors, leather, trunk...it was my only | |
| car for almost 4 years so I know it's fantastic. With 600WHP it | |
| would be nuts. But then again as long as you stay out of boost | |
| it would be an easy daily driver. I'd even plan to run the OEM | |
| GTE internals. Those are good for 800WHP and I don't really need | |
| that much power. | |
| I would plan on doing the V8 swap in the RX7. That's the plan. I | |
| love the rotary for it's uniqueness but it really doesn't bring | |
| much to the table that the LS1 can't. What V6 have you seen go | |
| in there? I've never seen a 6 done. | |
| #Post#: 1250-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: Blakd Date: August 2, 2011, 7:29 pm | |
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| A 305 rebuilt to a 327 but you will need at least a 350 turbo | |
| trans for it or you will tear up the gears. Or even a chevy | |
| 351, 379. Might be putting out around 150 hp but tourque is | |
| around 250. I owned a 78 camaro with 305, after I rebuilt it to | |
| a 327 I burned up the 305 trans and the trans shop burned up a | |
| 305 and 2 350's before we found the 350 turbo trans was the only | |
| one that worked. 2 wrecks in that thing at below 50 mph before | |
| I got rid of it. Second camaro was a 79 rs with 350 and a | |
| revers 4 speed. Never got it street legal and when I did drive | |
| it I burnt through every gear. Sorry I still hold a torch for | |
| the 305, 327 from chevy. | |
| #Post#: 1251-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: I want a toy | |
| By: italynstylion Date: August 2, 2011, 8:32 pm | |
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| I was thinking more like a T56 transmission for the LS1. It | |
| seems to be the popular option. | |
| I just committed a few sins on AutoTrader and realized that | |
| getting a decent FD might actually be MORE than an IS300. The | |
| average price of an IS300 is actually less than an FD. :o | |
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