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| #Post#: 145-------------------------------------------------- | |
| prelude to Enoch | |
| By: alphaomega Date: February 14, 2013, 4:36 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| PRELUDE | |
| an introductory performance, action, or event preceding and | |
| preparing for the principal or a more important matter | |
| This is "a" story of what lead up to Enoch being with the fallen | |
| angels | |
| in the beginning was god | |
| and god created darkness | |
| and in the darkness angels were created and dwell | |
| satan was called in to worship the image of god ; | |
| the soul of adam | |
| refusing to do so ; satan flies off to the world | |
| a third of the angels follow | |
| they too are banished and now ..... | |
| they want back | |
| they seek to return by the same method in which mankind will | |
| gain access to heaven | |
| and that being KINSMAN REDEEMED | |
| to accomplish this feat the fallen must become kin to mankind | |
| in order to become kin to Jesus to regain access to heaven | |
| first ; | |
| satan with eve at the tree causes the need to be redeemed | |
| second; | |
| cain and abel story breaks open the genectics of mankind as | |
| soulmates are lost | |
| as abel is killed and cain marries abel's twin sister | |
| third; | |
| adam dies and eve has a dream ; | |
| she dreams the world will be destoried twice ; | |
| once by fire ; | |
| once by water; | |
| eve sends out the sons of seth | |
| to build pillar and monuments to serve | |
| for the next generations (after the first destuction) | |
| as a testimony and witness of what has happened | |
| and what is to come | |
| the pillar and monument is to made of | |
| brick; in case of fire | |
| stone in case of water (flood) | |
| the assignment of stone falls to | |
| JA reds SON ;------------- ENOCH | |
| ENOCH is the forman and the fallen angels are assigned to be the | |
| labours | |
| in the project of building the stone pillar and monument | |
| we hear of this project post-flood in the verses | |
| ------------------------------------------------------ Isaiah | |
| 19:19-20 | |
| 19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst | |
| of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord at its border. 20 | |
| And it will be for a sign and for a witness to the Lord of hosts | |
| in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of | |
| the oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Mighty One, | |
| and He will deliver them. | |
| and we today know them as the Sphinx and Great Pyrimid of Geeza | |
| NOW YOU HAVE THE PRELUDE | |
| AS YOU READ THE STORY OF ENOCH | |
| AND THEN FOR THE EPILOUGE you may look at the story of JA-SON & | |
| argonauts for the rest of the pre-flood story | |
| #Post#: 224-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: prelude to Enoch | |
| By: beancounter Date: February 28, 2013, 8:36 pm | |
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| [quote author=alphaomega link=topic=53.msg145#msg145 | |
| date=1360881381] | |
| PRELUDE | |
| an introductory performance, action, or event preceding and | |
| preparing for the principal or a more important matter | |
| This is "a" story of what lead up to Enoch being with the fallen | |
| angels | |
| The book of Enoch doesnt say he was "with" the fallen angels, | |
| but that due to Enochs close relationship to God, the fallen | |
| angels (being afraid of trying to come into God's presense after | |
| being cast to earth) used him to convey a msg to God and in | |
| turn, God used Enoch to give judgement back to the fallen | |
| angels. | |
| in the beginning was god | |
| and god created darkness | |
| and in the darkness angels were created and dwell | |
| satan was called in to worship the image of god ; | |
| the soul of adam | |
| refusing to do so ; satan flies off to the world | |
| There was a "war" in heaven and a third of the angels were cast | |
| down to the earth, banished from the heavens. The war may have | |
| well be started by God's command that Adam be worshiped as the | |
| image of God (prior to the fall), but that is basically unsure | |
| to be a fact in my mind. | |
| a third of the angels follow | |
| they too are banished and now ..... | |
| they want back | |
| they seek to return by the same method in which mankind will | |
| gain access to heaven | |
| and that being KINSMAN REDEEMED | |
| to accomplish this feat the fallen must become kin to mankind | |
| in order to become kin to Jesus to regain access to heaven | |
| first ; | |
| satan with eve at the tree causes the need to be redeemed | |
| second; | |
| cain and abel story breaks open the genectics of mankind as | |
| soulmates are lost | |
| as abel is killed and cain marries abel's twin sister | |
| third; | |
| adam dies and eve has a dream ; | |
| she dreams the world will be destoried twice ; | |
| once by fire ; | |
| once by water; | |
| eve sends out the sons of seth | |
| to build pillar and monuments to serve | |
| for the next generations (after the first destuction) | |
| as a testimony and witness of what has happened | |
| and what is to come | |
| the pillar and monument is to made of | |
| brick; in case of fire | |
| stone in case of water (flood) | |
| the assignment of stone falls to | |
| JA reds SON ;------------- ENOCH | |
| ENOCH is the forman and the fallen angels are assigned to be the | |
| labours | |
| in the project of building the stone pillar and monument | |
| we hear of this project post-flood in the verses | |
| ------------------------------------------------------ Isaiah | |
| 19:19-20 | |
| 19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst | |
| of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord at its border. 20 | |
| And it will be for a sign and for a witness to the Lord of hosts | |
| in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of | |
| the oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Mighty One, | |
| and He will deliver them. | |
| and we today know them as the Sphinx and Great Pyrimid of Geeza | |
| NOW YOU HAVE THE PRELUDE | |
| AS YOU READ THE STORY OF ENOCH | |
| AND THEN FOR THE EPILOUGE you may look at the story of JA-SON & | |
| argonauts for the rest of the pre-flood story | |
| [/quote] | |
| I think, IMO, that a lot of assumptions are being made as to | |
| this story of Adam and Eve. But if that is your faith, I | |
| respect it as your faith. My faith finds truth in the book of | |
| Enoch, but before my faith found truth in Enoch, my faith found | |
| truth in the Bible, and I respect that order of infallibility. | |
| So far the Book of Adam and Eve hasnt filled me with confidence | |
| of its validity either in a scientific way, historical way, or | |
| way of the Spirit, so although still pretty neat, it hasnt | |
| reached a hieght greater than neat. Sorry Alpha. | |
| #Post#: 226-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: prelude to Enoch | |
| By: alphaomega Date: March 1, 2013, 3:39 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| [quote author=beancounter link=topic=53.msg224#msg224 | |
| date=1362105376] | |
| [quote author=alphaomega link=topic=53.msg145#msg145 | |
| date=1360881381] | |
| PRELUDE | |
| an introductory performance, action, or event preceding and | |
| preparing for the principal or a more important matter | |
| This is "a" story of what lead up to Enoch being with the fallen | |
| angels | |
| The book of Enoch doesnt say he was "with" the fallen angels, | |
| but that due to Enochs close relationship to God, the fallen | |
| angels (being afraid of trying to come into God's presense after | |
| being cast to earth) used him to convey a msg to God and in | |
| turn, God used Enoch to give judgement back to the fallen | |
| angels. | |
| in the beginning was god | |
| and god created darkness | |
| and in the darkness angels were created and dwell | |
| satan was called in to worship the image of god ; | |
| the soul of adam | |
| refusing to do so ; satan flies off to the world | |
| There was a "war" in heaven and a third of the angels were cast | |
| down to the earth, banished from the heavens. The war may have | |
| well be started by God's command that Adam be worshiped as the | |
| image of God (prior to the fall), but that is basically unsure | |
| to be a fact in my mind. | |
| a third of the angels follow | |
| they too are banished and now ..... | |
| they want back | |
| they seek to return by the same method in which mankind will | |
| gain access to heaven | |
| and that being KINSMAN REDEEMED | |
| to accomplish this feat the fallen must become kin to mankind | |
| in order to become kin to Jesus to regain access to heaven | |
| first ; | |
| satan with eve at the tree causes the need to be redeemed | |
| second; | |
| cain and abel story breaks open the genectics of mankind as | |
| soulmates are lost | |
| as abel is killed and cain marries abel's twin sister | |
| third; | |
| adam dies and eve has a dream ; | |
| she dreams the world will be destoried twice ; | |
| once by fire ; | |
| once by water; | |
| eve sends out the sons of seth | |
| to build pillar and monuments to serve | |
| for the next generations (after the first destuction) | |
| as a testimony and witness of what has happened | |
| and what is to come | |
| the pillar and monument is to made of | |
| brick; in case of fire | |
| stone in case of water (flood) | |
| the assignment of stone falls to | |
| JA reds SON ;------------- ENOCH | |
| ENOCH is the forman and the fallen angels are assigned to be the | |
| labours | |
| in the project of building the stone pillar and monument | |
| we hear of this project post-flood in the verses | |
| ------------------------------------------------------ Isaiah | |
| 19:19-20 | |
| 19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst | |
| of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord at its border. 20 | |
| And it will be for a sign and for a witness to the Lord of hosts | |
| in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of | |
| the oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Mighty One, | |
| and He will deliver them. | |
| and we today know them as the Sphinx and Great Pyrimid of Geeza | |
| NOW YOU HAVE THE PRELUDE | |
| AS YOU READ THE STORY OF ENOCH | |
| AND THEN FOR THE EPILOUGE you may look at the story of JA-SON & | |
| argonauts for the rest of the pre-flood story | |
| [/quote] | |
| I think, IMO, that a lot of assumptions are being made as to | |
| this story of Adam and Eve. But if that is your faith, I | |
| respect it as your faith. My faith finds truth in the book of | |
| Enoch, but before my faith found truth in Enoch, my faith found | |
| truth in the Bible, and I respect that order of infallibility. | |
| So far the Book of Adam and Eve hasnt filled me with confidence | |
| of its validity either in a scientific way, historical way, or | |
| way of the Spirit, so although still pretty neat, it hasnt | |
| reached a hieght greater than neat. Sorry Alpha. | |
| [/quote] | |
| no reason to be sorry or even to doubt ; i didnt come to any of | |
| these thoughts in five minutes either ;nor are they just | |
| thoughts being read into the lines of the story but are mostly | |
| looking back at the story after the issues of the bible are | |
| brought out | |
| since you base your base your faith first upon the bible and its | |
| infallibility and how been able to compare or lay aside that | |
| along side the book of Enoch in seeking more of that same truth | |
| i think you are well on your way . i could not agree more with | |
| your methodology. ;D | |
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