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| #Post#: 83-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Feed My Sheep | |
| By: colin Date: November 24, 2012, 8:51 am | |
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| Three times the Lord asked Peter, do you love me Peter and | |
| every time Peter said yes and then Jesus said , Feed My Sheep. | |
| I've been asked why I have to teach or why I must correct people | |
| several times and there is the answer. What is it that peter | |
| knew that would feed the flock of Jesus that they didn't. right | |
| from the time when Jesus asked who do they say he was, it was | |
| Peter that got it right when he said you are the son of the | |
| living God. Why Peter and if the Lord teaches everyone , why | |
| then ask Peter to feed his sheep. What Peter received from the | |
| Lord was from the Father above. God is Spirit and flesh and | |
| blood cannot teach you Spirit. There it is with the Spiritual | |
| teaching, the rest is past. You cannot dwell on the past and | |
| what has happened in your life when you come to the Lord and it | |
| is the same way with the Spirit. You cannot dwell on the flesh | |
| once you've been touched by the Spirit. Remember me Lord when | |
| you come into your kingdom. Thy kingdom come. Do not think on | |
| the Lord as one dead and forgotten but remember him as one alive | |
| and risen and you will also be as one remembered and known by | |
| the Lord, alive. God is the God of the living. | |
| I have fallen far from the Lord because of my impacence and | |
| want for some glory of my own but the teaching I have are not | |
| mine, they are the Lords and FLESH AND BLOOD HAS NOT TAUGHT ME . | |
| I'm happy to be hear with this theology he has given me and hope | |
| we can all remember the Lord as risen together. There is only | |
| one thing I can say right now. I love the Lord. I love him with | |
| all my heart and all my soul and nothing in this world compared | |
| to him. | |
| #Post#: 85-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: Amadeus Date: November 24, 2012, 9:17 am | |
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| [font=courier]Thank you for sharing both the Word and that heart | |
| warming testimony with us Colin! | |
| "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my | |
| help. | |
| My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth." | |
| Psalm 121:1-2[/font] | |
| #Post#: 88-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: Raina Date: November 25, 2012, 8:44 pm | |
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| [font=trebuchet ms]Colin, | |
| It was never that I meant not for you to teach, but that I know | |
| sometimes its a burden more than a joy. I just hate to see you | |
| get sad and frustrated. | |
| Please also consider: | |
| [/font] | |
| [quote][center][font=georgia]1 John 2:24-29 | |
| King James Version (KJV) | |
| 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the | |
| beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall | |
| remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the | |
| Father. | |
| 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even | |
| eternal life. | |
| 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that | |
| seduce you. | |
| 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in | |
| you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same | |
| anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no | |
| lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. | |
| 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall | |
| appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at | |
| his coming. | |
| 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that | |
| doeth righteousness is born of him.[/font][/center][/quote] | |
| [font=trebuchet ms]This seems to say that once given the Spirit, | |
| we need not that man teach us, but that the Spirit can take over | |
| as we abide in Him. Of course we may help one another, but | |
| abiding in Christ is the main thing. This was also written, it | |
| seems, to prevent Jesus' followers from falling into error by | |
| the "seduction" of men not of the Spirit and not abiding in Him. | |
| It was an assurance of keeping your faith pure by abiding in | |
| what you heard from the beginning, assuming, that is, that Truth | |
| is what you did, in fact, hear at the beginning. | |
| This was written by John, often thought to be the most spiritual | |
| of the Gospel-writers. The disciple Jesus loved. | |
| I've found this verse a personal comfort after learning of the | |
| confusion of things being taught in this faith. It's become a | |
| matter of trusting the Spirit to help me sort it all out instead | |
| of listening to the conflicting teachings of many different men. | |
| It also goes along with this, from Sirach: | |
| [quote][center][size=14pt][font=georgia]Sirach 2:17-18 | |
| 17: They that fear the Lord will prepare their hearts, and | |
| humble their souls in his sight, | |
| 18: Saying, We will fall into the hands of the Lord, and not | |
| into the hands of men: for as his majesty is, so is his mercy. | |
| [/font][/center][/quote] | |
| [font=trebuchet ms]I do believe you when you say that flesh and | |
| blood has not taught you. Your teachings are quite unique and | |
| you know I always ponder them and have learned many things from | |
| you. | |
| So . . . I'm glad you're here posting, for sure. I've no doubt | |
| you love the Lord and that what you do you are doing for Him. | |
| I've missed you much. [/font] | |
| #Post#: 90-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: colin Date: November 25, 2012, 11:01 pm | |
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| I do not have a problem seeing that you and a few others | |
| are now coming into spiritual sight. It makes me happy and my | |
| hope is that this forum, this one right here, and the few of us | |
| here, I hope we can all overcome together and not just on this | |
| part called spiritual interpretation , the whole thing. I see | |
| you and John and now patrick too moving in the Spirit. There are | |
| a few back on the other forum too but not many. Did you catch | |
| that where i was saying we have to stop dwelling on the past, | |
| that part that was flesh. I can't go back there and have to give | |
| the spirit 100 percent. I know this, we have to move where Jesus | |
| moves and raise with him and this is my purpose. This is what | |
| the Lord has given me to do and you all can say what you like | |
| but this is also what the Lord told me I will do, I must do. Let | |
| us all move forward together now, out of this bondage of sin and | |
| show the world just what is was Jesus was all about, his | |
| teachings, his life. Not about walking on water and men catching | |
| a lot of fish. Its about the building of the church in | |
| righteousness and the true members being like he was and is. Its | |
| about opening peoples eyes to the things of God and coming out | |
| of that great whore Babylon. I understand now why bondage is | |
| nesessary to combat evil but I think this is the time when his | |
| church should be raised and there should be an end to the lies | |
| and deceit, the mark of that beast removed from good people. Our | |
| robes should be washed now and we can present ourselves to him | |
| so he can hand over the kingdom to his father. Thats where we | |
| should be now. I can't stand to hear the foolishness anymore, I | |
| hate it now. | |
| This will sound wrong to all of you but this is what I | |
| think. People talk about how much you have to go threw to join | |
| some forums but I think for us, we should make it a 100 times | |
| harder. If people don't believe what the Spiritual teachings | |
| say, if it was my decision I would say they are not worthy or | |
| elegable to join. How about that. I think we should be like the | |
| disciples and move into the upper room and shut the doors and | |
| call and waite upon the Lord to show us what to do next. I know | |
| he will. People want a million people on their forums when we | |
| only need a dozen, after that people get converted. | |
| #Post#: 93-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: alphaomega Date: November 27, 2012, 4:41 pm | |
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| HI YA "colin" | |
| let this be "my" real welcome to you in comeing to "MY" forum | |
| M FORUM ? ; YES IT IS | |
| i think you will find what you and some others have been missing | |
| in the other forum | |
| THUS ; it is my great pleasure to CO-EXIST with NANCY'S praise | |
| forum ; | |
| for it frees this forum from te general conversation | |
| AS WELL as it frees her forum from a place of debate | |
| [quote author=colin link=topic=41.msg90#msg90 date=1353906081] | |
| I do not have a problem seeing that you and a few others | |
| are now coming into spiritual sight. It makes me happy and my | |
| hope is that this forum, this one right here, and the few of us | |
| here, I hope we can all overcome together and not just on this | |
| part called spiritual interpretation , the whole thing. I see | |
| you and John and now patrick too moving in the Spirit. | |
| the small group on this forum will have questions put to them ; | |
| and will only serve its true purpose if ; | |
| questions are asked back and | |
| comments are made and opinions are shared | |
| There are a few back on the other forum too but not many. Did | |
| you catch that where i was saying we have to stop dwelling on | |
| the past, that part that was flesh. I can't go back there and | |
| have to give the spirit 100 percent. I know this, we have to | |
| move where Jesus moves and raise with him and this is my | |
| purpose. | |
| this forum is no way represents are-forming of any other forum ; | |
| and in fact ; it is being formed solely as a sounding board ; | |
| for my-self { and any others } to bring out a deeper look into | |
| the issues of the bible ; mankinds story; ad the gospel story | |
| This is what the Lord has given me to do and you all can say | |
| what you like but this is also what the Lord told me I will do, | |
| I must do. | |
| anything can be said on this forum ; | |
| but the purpose of this forum is to "test" all that is said | |
| let us take "it all apart" and see if we cant both share and | |
| improve upon what we have been given by god | |
| Let us all move forward together now, out of this bondage of | |
| sin and show the world just what is was Jesus was all about, his | |
| teachings, his life. | |
| you will find a theme of this forum will be to show ; | |
| it more than just the life of jesus { that is one of four | |
| aspects to the purpose of jesus coming here to earth } | |
| his life will be given "equal time" to his birth; death; and | |
| promise to return | |
| Not about walking on water and men catching a lot of fish. Its | |
| about the building of the church in righteousness and the true | |
| members being like he was and is. | |
| it is about .................................IS IT ? ; that is | |
| what this forum seeks to explore | |
| not saying you are right or wrong ; but saying this forum needs | |
| a better foundation of statements {in time} | |
| or should have ; | |
| Its about opening peoples eyes to the things of God and coming | |
| out of that great **** Babylon. I understand now why bondage is | |
| nesessary to combat evil but I think this is the time when his | |
| church should be raised and there should be an end to the lies | |
| and deceit, the mark of that beast removed from good people. Our | |
| robes should be washed now and we can present ourselves to him | |
| so he can hand over the kingdom to his father. Thats where we | |
| should be now. | |
| again; {in time} we need a better foundations for those | |
| statements | |
| lol; and i know you can do this this ; | |
| DON'T HURRY ; TAKE YOUR TIME | |
| LET ALL WHO WISH BUILD AND EXPLORE THE STATEMENTS ; IN ORDER TO | |
| 'REALLY KNOW" THE SUBJECT MATTER | |
| I can't stand to hear the foolishness anymore, I hate it now. | |
| YES; INDEED | |
| thank you ; couldn't have said it any better | |
| This will sound wrong to all of you but this is what I | |
| think. People talk about how much you have to go threw to join | |
| some forums but I think for us, we should make it a 100 times | |
| harder. | |
| lol; don't worry about that | |
| make no mistake ; THIS IS MY FORUM | |
| IT EXISTS FOR MY PLEASURE | |
| I HAVE A BAN BUTTON ; AND A CAT {with lightning quick paws} TO | |
| STOP THOSE WHOSE AGENDAS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THIS FORUM | |
| If people don't believe what the Spiritual teachings say, if it | |
| was my decision I would say they are not worthy or elegable to | |
| join. How about that. | |
| TIME;will BRING ALL TO LIGHT; and then judgements can be made | |
| I think we should be like the disciples and move into the upper | |
| room and shut the doors and call and waite upon the Lord to show | |
| us what to do next. I know he will. People want a million people | |
| on their forums when we only need a dozen, after that people get | |
| converted. | |
| [/quote] | |
| THIS IS A "PERFECTING THE SAINTS" FORUM ----------------{ a | |
| study to improve knowledge of the gosple story} | |
| if some get converted along the way "GREAT" | |
| BUT THAT IS THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ; and not mine | |
| don't let this scare you ; | |
| i feel this is the place where you can both share and improve | |
| your message | |
| and that is the purpose of this forum for each of us | |
| #Post#: 94-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: alphaomega Date: November 27, 2012, 5:04 pm | |
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| [quote author=colin link=topic=41.msg83#msg83 date=1353768679] | |
| Three times the Lord asked Peter, do you love me Peter | |
| [/quote] | |
| that is the way it sounds in english | |
| but that not what is being said there | |
| the words to each time jesus says that is different | |
| the first time | |
| --------------do you love adore and worship me? | |
| the second time is | |
| -------------do you love me? | |
| the third time is | |
| -------------- do you even like me ? | |
| each time it hurt peter more and more ; | |
| this was a breaking peter down ; so he could * remember ; all | |
| that had happened | |
| is peter the leader of this group ? | |
| peter doesn't ever think so after this conversation | |
| peter now sees himself as one whom Jesus called to share ; | |
| THE WITNEESSED ACCOUNT OF THE LIFE OF JESUS | |
| what peter has to offer ; is not teaching | |
| it is this witnessed account of the one teacher ; one lord , one | |
| saviour | |
| [quote author=colin link=topic=41.msg83#msg83 date=1353768679] | |
| I've been asked why I have to teach or why I must correct | |
| people several times and there is the answer. | |
| i understand; BUT --- if we are to do this THEN we must work on | |
| our presentation of what GOD has shown us { thus; the forums | |
| playground} | |
| What is it that peter knew that would feed the flock of Jesus | |
| that they didn't. right from the time when Jesus asked who do | |
| they say he was, it was Peter that got it right when he said you | |
| are the son of the living God. Why Peter and if the Lord teaches | |
| everyone , why then ask Peter to feed his sheep. What Peter | |
| received from the Lord was from the Father above. God is Spirit | |
| and flesh and blood cannot teach you Spirit. | |
| open for debate *** | |
| flesh and spirit ; are they ever together ? | |
| the old man = body and soul | |
| the new man = soul and spirit ; and the flesh/body is nothing | |
| but a vehicle that is used in this world for transportation | |
| it ( the body) will never be eternal | |
| There it is with the Spiritual teaching, the rest is past. You | |
| cannot dwell on the past and what has happened in your life when | |
| you come to the Lord and it is the same way with the Spirit. You | |
| cannot dwell on the flesh once you've been touched by the | |
| Spirit. Remember me Lord when you come into your kingdom. Thy | |
| kingdom come. Do not think on the Lord as one dead and forgotten | |
| but remember him as one alive and risen and you will also be as | |
| one remembered and known by the Lord, alive. God is the God of | |
| the living. | |
| yes ; but i want more foundation | |
| I have fallen far from the Lord because of my impacence and | |
| want for some glory of my own but the teaching I have are not | |
| mine, they are the Lords and FLESH AND BLOOD HAS NOT TAUGHT ME . | |
| I'm happy to be hear with this theology he has given me and hope | |
| we can all remember the Lord as risen together. There is only | |
| one thing I can say right now. I love the Lord. I love him with | |
| all my heart and all my soul and nothing in this world compared | |
| to him. | |
| [/quote] | |
| of coarse ; the flesh wants | |
| but knowing this ; can't we also see those wants have nothing to | |
| do with the spirit ? | |
| plato says ; | |
| in seeking truth ; there is no winner in the debate | |
| we seek not to win ; but to find the truth | |
| thus; the testing of what we believe to be true ; | |
| for if it is true ; it will stand the test | |
| if it cracks somewhat ; | |
| then we can look to see the actual truth better | |
| looking forward to exploring more | |
| #Post#: 97-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: colin Date: November 27, 2012, 9:52 pm | |
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| John, my fried, I've been angry at others and even myself | |
| for a while now. I'm over it. I withdrew myself for a while but | |
| now I feel the Lord moving in me and have that need to do the | |
| will of God. I missed you brother. | |
| #Post#: 99-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Feed My Sheep | |
| By: Amadeus Date: November 28, 2012, 6:31 pm | |
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| [quote]John, my friend, I've been angry at others and even | |
| myself for a while now. I'm over it. I withdrew myself for a | |
| while but now I feel the Lord moving in me and have that need to | |
| do the will of God. I missed you brother.[/quote] | |
| [font=courier]You were also missed, my friend! | |
| I understand very well about the pressure on us at times, which | |
| makes us want to draw back. I also understand how frustrating it | |
| seems when so many people either do not care or completely | |
| misunderstand what is meant. | |
| Just remember what Jesus said here: | |
| "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what | |
| they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." Luke 23:34 | |
| They did not know and did not understand what they were doing. | |
| Some of those, who are seemingly uncaring or even cruelly | |
| callous and abrasive with regard to what we say, are likely | |
| among some of those, who "know not what they do". We must do as | |
| Jesus did and ask our Father to forgive them. | |
| And then again: | |
| "And we know that all things work together for good to them | |
| that love God, to them who are the called according to his | |
| purpose." Rom 8:28[/font] | |
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