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| the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: October 14, 2012, 8:15 pm | |
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| The story told in the gospels is one story ; not four. | |
| WE HAVE ALL HEARD ; what John is | |
| saying here or what Matthew is saying here is ; and that is not | |
| the point of this gospel story.The point of these gospel stories | |
| is to see what God is telling us in this "one" account of the | |
| gospels. With that in mind i will try and lay out that "one" | |
| gospel by arranging the four gospels into the one gospel story. | |
| The four writers of the gospels do not tell the story in the | |
| exact same order. Close but not exact; so with this i have set | |
| the book of Matthew as the guide and will attempt to sort the | |
| others into the order of Matthew. | |
| I WILL USE GOSPEL HEADLINES AS THE | |
| SORTING TOOL. I have taken those headlines ( put in by the | |
| translators) to bring out certain sections of the gospels. | |
| EXAMPLE ; The birth of Jesus which was put in by the | |
| translators is an example of a subject or a particular event | |
| being discuessed or brought out. THUS; when we see in Matthew | |
| The birth of Jesus and in Luke The birth of Jesusthese two | |
| accounts need to be put together if we are to get the intended | |
| message that God is trying to bring out. | |
| THE NEED OF SUCH AN ORDER; has been | |
| discussed in the SEE JANE RUN story. If the bible ( or gospels | |
| story) is one that builds on its self; then the order definatly | |
| plays a role in the telling of this story! In fact; as we look | |
| at the parables it is fruitless to talk about the meaning of | |
| these without the knowing of the Old Testament referrences; and | |
| further seen in the parable of the sower all four accounts are | |
| needed just to get the meaning of the parable is saying!!! | |
| BELOW I LIST THE HEADLINES ( OF THE | |
| GOSPELS) IN COLOR CODED FASHION. I have chosen to use the "NIV" | |
| for the purpose of gathering the gospel headlines. Matthew is | |
| in green, Mark is in red, Luke is in blue, and John is in | |
| purple. *** Remember ; these are in the order as guided by | |
| fitting into the Matthew account. | |
| GOSPELS HEADLINES | |
| The Word became Flesh | |
| Introduction | |
| The birth of John the Baptist foretold | |
| The birth of Jesus foretold | |
| Mary visits Elizabeth | |
| Mary�s song | |
| The birth of john the Baptist | |
| Zechariah�s song | |
| The Genealogy of Jesus -the Baptism and Genealogy of Jesus | |
| The Birth of Jesus Christ -1 the Birth of Jesus | |
| The Shepherds and the Angels | |
| The Visit of the Magi | |
| Jesus Presented in the Temple | |
| The Escape to Egypt | |
| The Return to Nazareth | |
| The Boy Jesus at the Temple 2 | |
| John the Baptist Denies Being the Christ 1 | |
| John the Baptist Prepares the Way John the Baptist Prepares the | |
| Way John the baptist Prepares the Way The Baptism of Jesus | |
| -3[/color] The Baptism and Genealogy of Jesus 3****** | |
| 13-Jesus the Lamb of God 1 | |
| 14-Jesus' First Disciples 1 | |
| 15The Temptation of Jesus -4 The Baptism and Temptation of Jesus | |
| 1 The Temptation of Jesus 4 | |
| 16-Jesus Begins to Preach -4 | |
| 17-Jesus Calls Philip and Nathanael 1 | |
| 18-The Calling of the First Disciples -4 The Calling of the | |
| First Disciples 1 The Calling of the First Disciples 5 | |
| 19-Jesus Changes Water to Wine 2 | |
| 20-Jesus Clears the Temple 2 | |
| 21-Jesus Teaches Nicodemus 3 | |
| 22-John the Baptist's Testimony About Jesus 3 | |
| 23-Jesus Drives Out an Evil Spirit 1 Jesus Drives Out an Evil | |
| Spirit 4 | |
| 25-Jesus Rejected at Nazareth 4 | |
| 25-Jesus Heals the Sick -4 | |
| 26-The Beatitudes -5 | |
| 27-Salt and Light -5 | |
| 28-The Fulfillment of the Law -5 | |
| 29-Murder -5 | |
| 30-Adultery -5 | |
| 31-Divorce -5 | |
| 32-Oaths -5 | |
| 33-An Eye for an Eye -5 | |
| 34-Love for Enemies -5 Love for Enemies 6 | |
| 35-Matthew 6 | |
| 36-Giving to the Needy -6 | |
| 37-Prayer -6 | |
| 38-Fasting -6 | |
| 39-Treasures in Heaven -6 | |
| 40-Do Not Worry -6 | |
| 41-Judging Others -7 Judging Others 6 | |
| 42-Ask, Seek, Knock -7 | |
| 43-The Narrow and Wide Gates -7 | |
| 44-A Tree and Its Fruit -7 A Tree and Its Fruit 6 | |
| 45-The Wise and Foolish Builders -7 The Wise and Foolish | |
| Builders 6 | |
| 46-The Man With Leprosy -8 A Man With Leprosy 1 The Man With | |
| Leprosy 5 | |
| 47-The Faith of the Centurion -8 | |
| 48-Jesus Heals Many -8 Jesus Heals Many 1 Jesus Heals Many 4 | |
| 49-Samaritan Opposition 9 | |
| 50-The Cost of Following Jesus -8 The Cost of Following Jesus 9 | |
| 51-Jesus Prays in a Solitary Place 1 | |
| 52-Jesus Calms the Storm -8 Jesus Calms the Storm 4 | |
| 53-The Healing of Two Demon-possessed Men -8 The Healing of a | |
| Demon-possessed Man 5 The Healing of a Demon-possessed Man 8 | |
| 54-Jesus Heals a Paralytic -9 Jesus Heals a Paralytic 2 Jesus | |
| Heals a Paralytic 5 | |
| 55-The Calling of Matthew -9 The Calling of Levi 2 The Calling | |
| of Levi 5 | |
| 56-Jesus Questioned About Fasting -9 Jesus Questioned About | |
| Fasting 2 Jesus Questioned About Fasting 5 | |
| 57-Lord of the Sabbath 2 Lord of the Sabbath 6 | |
| Mark 3 | |
| 58-MAN WILL SHRIVELED HAND 3 | |
| 59-A Dead Girl and a Sick Woman -9 A Dead Girl and a Sick Woman | |
| 5 A Dead Girl and a Sick Woman 8 | |
| 60-Jesus Heals the Blind and Mute -9 | |
| 61-Crowds Follow Jesus 3 | |
| 62-The Workers Are Few -9 | |
| 63-The Appointing of the Twelve Apostles 3 The Twelve Apostles 6 | |
| 64-Jesus Sends Out the Twelve -10 Jesus Sends Out the Twelve 6 | |
| Jesus Sends Out the Twelve 9 | |
| 65-The Faith of the Centurion 7 | |
| 66-Jesus Raises a Widow's Son 7 | |
| 67-Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman 4 | |
| 68-The Disciples Rejoin Jesus 4 | |
| 69-Many Samaritans Believe 4 | |
| 70-Jesus Heals the Official's Son 4 | |
| 71-Jesus and John the Baptist 11 Jesus and John the Baptist 7 | |
| 72-Woe on Unrepentant Cities 11 Blessings and Woes 6 | |
| 73-Rest for the Weary 11 | |
| 74-Lord of the Sabbath 12 | |
| 75-God's Chosen Servant 12 | |
| 76-Jesus and Beelzebub 12 Jesus and Beelzebub 3 Jesus and | |
| Beelzebub 11 | |
| 77-The Sign of Jonah 12 The Sign of Jonah 11 | |
| 78-Jesus Anointed by a Sinful Woman 7 | |
| 79-Jesus' Mother and Brothers 12 Jesus' Mother and Brothers 3 | |
| Jesus' Mother and Brothers 8 | |
| 80-Jesus Calms the Storm 8 | |
| 81-The Parable of the Sower 13 The Parable of the Sower 4 The | |
| Parable of the Sower 8 | |
| 82-A Lamp on a Stand 4 A Lamp on a Stand 8 | |
| 83-The Parable of the Weeds 13 The Parable of the Growing Seed 4 | |
| 84-the Parables of the Mustard Seed and the Yeast 13 The Parable | |
| of the Mustard Seed 4 | |
| 85-The Parable of the Weeds Explained 13 | |
| 86-The Parables of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl 13 | |
| 87-The Parable of the Net 13 | |
| 88-A Prophet Without Honor 13 A Prophet Without Honor 6 | |
| 89-The Healing at the Pool 5 | |
| 90-Life Through the Son 5 | |
| 91-Testimonies About Jesus 5 | |
| Matthew 14 | |
| 92-John the Baptist Beheaded 14 John the Baptist Beheaded 6 | |
| 93-Jesus Feeds the Five Thousand 14 Jesus Feeds the Five | |
| Thousand 6 Jesus Feeds the Five Thousand 9 Jesus Feeds the Five | |
| Thousand 6 | |
| 94-Jesus Sends Out the Seventytwo 10 | |
| 95-The Parable of the Good Samaritan 10 | |
| 96-At the Home of Martha and Mary 10 | |
| Luke 11 | |
| 97-Jesus' Teaching on Prayer 11 | |
| 98-The Lamp of the Body 11 | |
| 99-Jesus Walks on the Water 14 Jesus Walks on the Water 6 Jesus | |
| Calms the Storm 8 Jesus Walks on the Water 6 | |
| 100-Jesus the Bread of Life 6 | |
| 101-Many Disciples Desert Jesus 6 | |
| 102-Clean and Unclean 15 Clean and Unclean 7 | |
| 103-The Healing of a Deaf and Mute Man 7 | |
| 104-The Faith of a Syrophoenician Woman 7 | |
| 105-The Healing of a Blind Man at Bethsaida 8 | |
| 106-Jesus Goes to the Feast of Tabernacles 7 | |
| 107-Jesus Teaches at the Feast 7 | |
| 108-Is Jesus the Christ? 7 | |
| 109-Unbelief of the Jewish Leaders 7 | |
| 110-John 8 | |
| 1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared | |
| again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around | |
| him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and | |
| the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. | |
| 111-The Validity of Jesus' Testimony 8 | |
| 112-The Children of Abraham 8 | |
| 113-The Children of the Devil 8 | |
| The Claims of Jesus About Himself 8 | |
| 115-114-Jesus Feeds the Four Thousand 15 Jesus Feeds the Four | |
| Thousand 8 | |
| 116-The Demand for a Sign 16 | |
| 117-The Yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees 16 The Yeast of the | |
| Pharisees and Herod 8 | |
| 118-Peter's Confession of Christ 16 Peter's Confession of Christ | |
| 8 Peter's Confession of Christ 9 | |
| 119-Jesus Predicts His Death 16 Jesus Predicts His Death 8 Jesus | |
| Predicts His Death 12 | |
| 120-The Jews Continue in Their Unbelief 12 | |
| 121-The Transfiguration 17 The Transfiguration 9 The | |
| Transfiguration 9 | |
| 122-The Healing of a Boy With a Demon 17 The Healing of a Boy | |
| with an Evil Spirit 9 The Healing of a Boy With an Evil Spirit 9 | |
| 123-The Temple Tax 17 | |
| 124-The Greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven 18 Who is Greatest? 9 | |
| Who Will Be the Greatest 9 | |
| 125-The Parable of the Lost Sheep 18 The Parable of the Lost | |
| Sheep 15 | |
| 126-Warnings and Encouragements 12 | |
| 127-The Parable of the Rich Fool 12 | |
| 128-Do Not Worry 12 | |
| 129-Watchfulness 12 | |
| 130-Not Peace but Division 12 | |
| 131-Interpreting the Times 12 | |
| 132-Repent or Perish 13 | |
| 133-A Crippled Woman Healed on the Sabbath 13 | |
| 134-The Parables of the Mustard Seed and the Yeast 13 | |
| 135-The Narrow Door 13 | |
| 136-Jesus' Sorrow for Jerusalem 13 | |
| 137-Jesus at a Pharisee's House 14 | |
| 138-The Parable of the Great Banquet 14 | |
| 139-The Cost of Being a Disciple 14 | |
| 140-The Parable of the Lost Coin 15 | |
| 141-The Parable of the Lost Son 15 | |
| 142-The Parable of the Shrewd Manager 16 | |
| 143-A Brother Who Sins Against You 18 | |
| 144-The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant 18 | |
| 145-Additional Teachings 16 | |
| 146-The Rich Man and Lazarus 16 | |
| 147-Sin, Faith, Duty 17 | |
| 148-Ten Healed of Leprosy 17 | |
| 149-The Coming of the Kingdom of God 17 | |
| 150-The Parable of the Persistent Widow 18 | |
| 151-The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector 18 | |
| 152-Divorce 19 Divorce 10 | |
| 153-Whoever Is Not Against Us Is for Us 9 | |
| 154-Causing to Sin 9 | |
| 155-The Little Children and Jesus19 The Little Children and | |
| Jesus 10 The Little Children and Jesus 18 | |
| 156-The Rich Young Man 19 The Rich Young Man 10 The Rich Ruler | |
| 18 | |
| 157-The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard 20 | |
| 158-Jesus Again Predicts His Death 20 Jesus Again Predicts His | |
| Death 10 Jesus Again Predicts His Death 18 | |
| 159-A Mother's Request 20 The Request of James and John 10 | |
| 160-Two Blind Men Receive Sight 20 Blind Bartimaeus Receives His | |
| Sight 10 A Blind Beggar Receives His Sight 18 | |
| 161-Zacchaeus the Tax Collector 19 | |
| 162-The Parable of the Ten Minas 19 | |
| 163-Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind 9 | |
| 164-The Pharisees Investigate the Healing 9 | |
| 165-Spiritual Blindness 9 | |
| 166-The Shepherd and His Flock 10 | |
| 167-The Unbelief of the Jews 10 | |
| 168-The Death of Lazarus 11 | |
| 169-Jesus Comforts the Sisters 11 | |
| 170-Jesus Raises Lazarus From the Dead 11 | |
| 171-The Plot to Kill Jesus 11 | |
| 172-Jesus Anointed at Bethany 12 | |
| 173-The Triumphal Entry 21 The Triumphal Entry 11 The Triumphal | |
| Entry 19 The Triumphal Entry 12 | |
| 174-Jesus at the Temple 21 Jesus Clears the Temple 11 Jesus at | |
| the Temple 19 | |
| 175-The Fig Tree Withers 21 The Withered Fig Tree 11 | |
| 176-The Authority of Jesus Questioned 21 The Authority of Jesus | |
| Questioned 11 The Authority of Jesus Questioned 20 | |
| 177-The Parable of the Two Sons 21 | |
| 178-The Parable of the Tenants 21 The Parable of the Tenants 12 | |
| The Parable of the Tenants 20 | |
| 179-The Parable of the Wedding Banquet 22 | |
| 180-Paying Taxes to Caesar 22 Paying Taxes to Caesar 12 Paying | |
| Taxes to Caesar 20 | |
| 181-Marriage at the Resurrection 22 Marriage at the Resurrection | |
| 12 The Resurrection and Marriage 20 | |
| 182-The Greatest Commandment 22 The Greatest Commandment 12 | |
| 183-Whose Son Is the Christ 22 Whose Son Is the Christ 12 Whose | |
| Son Is the Christ? 20 | |
| 184-The Widow's Offering 12 The Widow's Offering 21 | |
| 185-Seven Woes 23 Six Woes 11 | |
| 186-Signs of the End of the Age 24 Signs of the End of the Age | |
| 13 Signs of the End of the Age 21 | |
| 187-The Day and Hour Unknown 24 The Day and Hour Unknown 13 | |
| 188-The Parable of the Ten Virgins 25 | |
| 189-The Parable of the Talents 25 | |
| 190-The Sheep and the Goats 25 | |
| 191-The Plot Against Jesus 26 | |
| 192-Jesus Anointed at Bethany 26 Jesus Anointed at Bethany 14 | |
| 193-Judas Agrees to Betray Jesus 26 Judas Agrees to Betray Jesus | |
| 22 | |
| 194-Jesus Washes His Disciples' Feet 13 | |
| 195-The Lord's Supper 26 The Lord's Supper 14 The Last Supper 22 | |
| Jesus Predicts His Betrayal 13 | |
| 196-Jesus Predicts Peter's Denial 26 Jesus Predicts Peter's | |
| Denial 14 Jesus Predicts Peter's Denial 13 | |
| 197-Jesus Comforts His Disciples 14 | |
| 198-Jesus the Way to the Father 14 | |
| 199-Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit 14 | |
| 200-The Vine and the Branches 15 | |
| 201-The World Hates the Disciples 15 | |
| 202-John 16 1"All this I have told you so that you will not go | |
| astray. 2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time | |
| is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a | |
| service to God. | |
| 203-The Work of the Holy Spirit 16 | |
| 204-The Disciples' Grief Will Turn to Joy 16 | |
| 205-Jesus Prays on the Mount of Olives 22 | |
| 206-Gethsemane 26 Gethsemane 14 | |
| 207Jesus Prays for Himself 17 | |
| 208-Jesus Prays for His Disciples 17 | |
| 209-Jesus Prays for All Believers 17 | |
| 210-Jesus Arrested 26 Jesus Arrested 14 Jesus Arrested 22 Jesus | |
| Arrested 18 | |
| 211-Jesus Taken to Annas 18 | |
| 212-Before the Sanhedrin 26 Before the Sanhedrin 14 | |
| 213-Peter Disowns Jesus 26 Peter Disowns Jesus 14 Peter Disowns | |
| Jesus 22 | |
| 214-Peter's First Denial 18 | |
| 215-The High Priest Questions Jesus 18 | |
| 216-Peter's Second and Third Denials 18 | |
| 217-Jesus Before Pilate 18 | |
| 218-Judas Hangs Himself 27 | |
| 219-Jesus Before Pilate 27 Jesus Before Pilate 15 Jesus Before | |
| Pilate and Herod 22 Jesus Before Pilate 18 | |
| 220-KING OF THE JEWS 23 | |
| 221-Jesus Sentenced to be Crucified 19 | |
| 222-The Soldiers Mock Jesus 27 The Soldiers Mock Jesus 15 The | |
| Guards Mock Jesus 22 | |
| 223-The Crucifixion 27 The Crucifixion 15 The Crucifixion 23 The | |
| Crucifixion 19 | |
| 224-The Death of Jesus 27 The Death of Jesus 15 Jesus' Death 23 | |
| The Death of Jesus 19 | |
| 225-The Burial of Jesus 27 The Burial of Jesus 15 Jesus' Burial | |
| 23 The Burial of Jesus 19 | |
| 226-The Guard at the Tomb 27 | |
| 227-The Resurrection 28 The Resurrection 16 The Resurrection 24 | |
| 228-The Empty Tomb 20 | |
| 229-Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene 20 | |
| 230-The Guards' Report 28 | |
| 231-On the Road to Emmaus 24 | |
| 232-Jesus Appears to the Disciples 24 Jesus Appears to His | |
| Disciples 20 | |
| 233-Jesus Appears to Thomas | |
| 234-Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish 21 | |
| 235-Jesus Reinstates Peter 21 | |
| 236-The Great Commission 28 | |
| 237-The Ascension 24 | |
| #Post#: 110-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: December 14, 2012, 2:35 pm | |
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| THE NEW TESTAMENT | |
| Matthew 13:52 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) | |
| 52 And he said to them, �Therefore every scribe who has been | |
| trained for the kingdom of heaven is like the master of a | |
| household who brings out of his treasure what is new and what is | |
| old.� | |
| THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS REVEILED IN | |
| THE NEW TESTAMENT; it is brought to light {understanding} by use | |
| of what was said {brought out} from the Old Testament. With this | |
| in mind let us take a look at this New Testament which reveals | |
| GOD�S PLAN for achieving the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. | |
| THE FOLLOWING IS AN ATTEMPT TO PUT THE | |
| STORIES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT INTO CHRONOLGICAL ORDER {with the | |
| hope that seeing the order may bring about a deeper | |
| understanding of this THE GOSPEL STORY! | |
| FOR EASE OF USE THE BOOK OF �. | |
| MATTHEW WILL BE IN GREEN | |
| MARK WILL BE IN RED | |
| LUKE WILL BE IN BLUE | |
| JOHN WILL BE IN PURPLE | |
| BECAUSE WE SEE THIS STORY THROUGHT THE | |
| EYES OF FOUR DIFFERENT WRITERS THE ORDER OF THE STORIES MAY | |
| VERY; SO TO CREATE AN ORDER I HAVE SELECTED MATTHEW AS THE GUIDE | |
| { it seems to be the most complete story as to covering the | |
| topics; * longer ; not better} AND WILL FOLD THE OTHER BOOKS | |
| INTO THE PASSAGES OF MATTHEW. AS THE BOOK OF MATTHEW OPENS WE | |
| SEE FROM THE OTHER GOSPELS; THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN | |
| BEFORE MATTHEW OPENS; THUS THEY START BEFORE THE FIRST VERSE OF | |
| MATTHEW. | |
| The Word Became Flesh; JOHN- 1:1-5 | |
| [color=purple]1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was | |
| with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with | |
| God. 3 All things came into being through him, and without him | |
| not one thing came into being. What has come into being 4 in him | |
| was life,[a] and the life was the light of all people. 5 The | |
| light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome | |
| it.[/color] | |
| from the old | |
| Genesis 1 :1-5 New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) | |
| Six Days of Creation and the Sabbath | |
| 1 In the beginning when God created[a] the heavens and the | |
| earth, 2 the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the | |
| face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of | |
| the waters. 3 Then God said, �Let there be light�; and there was | |
| light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated | |
| the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the | |
| darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was | |
| morning, the first day. | |
| � | |
| � | |
| � | |
| FROM WITHIN THE HOLY SPIRIT A GLOBE OF WATER WAS FORMED {while a | |
| wind from God swept over the face of the waters.} AND SEEN | |
| BETTER IN��.. | |
| Genesis 1 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE) | |
| Six Days of Creation and the Sabbath | |
| 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The | |
| earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face | |
| of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of | |
| the waters. | |
| WE SEE THIS POINT CLEARER; AS WE MUST NOTE AT THIS POINT THE | |
| WHOLE EARTH IS WATER; BOTH TOP BOTTOM EAST AND WEST. THIS WORLD | |
| IS SEPARATED FROM THE DARKNESS BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. WATER IS | |
| CONCIEVED FROM WITHIN THE HOLY SPIRIT; ANGELS ARE CREATED | |
| OUTSIDE OF GOD IN DARKNESS. | |
| DARKNESS H-O-L-Y {water} S-P-I-R-I-T | |
| DARKNESS | |
| { more to come} ; comments welcome | |
| #Post#: 111-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: December 16, 2012, 1:23 pm | |
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| CONTINUED; | |
| The Word Became Flesh; JOHN- 1:1-5 | |
| 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and | |
| the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All | |
| things came into being through him, and without him not one | |
| thing came into being. What has come into being 4 in him was | |
| life,[a] and the life was the light of all people. 5 The light | |
| shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it | |
| THE APPEARANCE OF LIGHT | |
| light appears ; and what happens ? | |
| that globe of water is opened up | |
| there becomes | |
| * a drink offering | |
| * poured out | |
| * slain {separated} | |
| who is the drink offering? | |
| who was poured out? | |
| who is he that was slain { separated} before the foundations of | |
| the world ? | |
| we { christians} know this to be Jesus ; | |
| but let us look at just when and what this means ! | |
| the sticking "key" to this for most people is the {separated} | |
| point. | |
| but who can not see what the water does? | |
| any honest person when shown would have to reconized what the | |
| text says about the water | |
| * it is poured out | |
| * it is separated | |
| * this takes place before land { the foundations of the world } | |
| appears | |
| and though "few" see this with out being shown ; the muslims | |
| refute Jesus on this very point !!! | |
| they say ; " God did not separated into 2 parts; with one being | |
| Jesus . | |
| if the point is not to be concidered ; | |
| then why ???? | |
| did they make an issue of it? | |
| think about it ? ======================== | |
| i wouldn't want you to think this is some "new" issue brought up | |
| by me | |
| the picture-gram of the trinity is the water of genesis one | |
| water becomes water { poured out} and water with the land | |
| GOD becomes JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT | |
| * FROM THE VERSE W ARE LOOKING AT { JOHN 1:1-5} | |
| WE SEE ; | |
| JESUS IS THE WORD | |
| JESUS MADE EVERYTHING | |
| GOD MADE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH | |
| JESUS IS GOD { when the heavens and the globe of water are made} | |
| JESUS WAS WITH GOD { the drink offering poured out "makes the | |
| foundations of the world" } as we see JESUS with GOD | |
| MORE TO COME | |
| QUESTIONS COMMENTS ???? | |
| #Post#: 115-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 27, 2013, 4:35 pm | |
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| John 1:1-5 | |
| The Word Became Flesh | |
| 1In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and | |
| the Word was God. | |
| 2He was with God in the beginning. | |
| 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made | |
| that has been made. | |
| 4In him was life, and that life was the light of | |
| men. | |
| 5The | |
| light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not | |
| understood it. | |
| �IN THE BEGINNING� REQUIRES US TO BACK AND LOOK AT GENESIS ONE | |
| To compare and contrast; to lie alongside each; to give a deeper | |
| understanding into what is being said and to see what is going | |
| on. | |
| Genesis 1 | |
| New King James Version (NKJV) | |
| The History of Creation | |
| 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The | |
| earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[a] on the | |
| face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the | |
| face of the waters. | |
| � | |
| � | |
| all things were created. | |
| � | |
| God. | |
| � | |
| � | |
| � | |
| to put created things} | |
| � | |
| � | |
| � | |
| � | |
| These waters are within the Holy Spirit as seen by And the | |
| Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. | |
| � | |
| darkness is not God | |
| � | |
| water is created �inside� of GOD. | |
| � | |
| made; without him nothing was made that has been made.4In him | |
| was life, and that life was the light of men. | |
| � | |
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| 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the | |
| light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the | |
| darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were | |
| the first day. | |
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| darkness { where angels are created and dwell} and the earth | |
| which man will come from { created inside the Holy Spirit} | |
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| in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from | |
| the waters.� 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the | |
| waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were | |
| above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the | |
| firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second | |
| day. | |
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| the water split. This gives �us� a picture-gram of the Trinity | |
| WATER {God; as seen from coming from within the Holy Spirit} | |
| opens up; and we see | |
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| Is this not JESUS? | |
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| be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land | |
| appear�; and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth, | |
| and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God | |
| saw that it was good | |
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| firmament Heaven. Jesus as seen as the drink offering, the one | |
| to be poured out was here {separated, becomes the with God} and | |
| will become the one slain to become the one who covers the sin | |
| of the world. | |
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| covers the sin of the world at the time of the flood? | |
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| Holy Spirit is next to man here on the earth. | |
| Water ------ becomes ------------------ water | |
| �.........................sky�� land/water | |
| God -------------------------------------- Jesus & | |
| ----------------------------Holy Spirit | |
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| according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish | |
| of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over | |
| all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the | |
| earth.� 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of | |
| God He created him; male and female He created them. | |
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| man is flesh and blood so is it the same for a cow. The | |
| difference between man and the cow is that something else, that | |
| which is the image of god and that is the soul of Adam. | |
| [b]WATCH HOW EVE COMES TO BE {SEEN} IS IT NOT THE SAME STORY AS | |
| JESUS BECOMEING SEPARATED {SLAIN} FROM GOD? | |
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| COW) but here God breathes into Adam the image of God; the soul | |
| of Adam. | |
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| other person in that God breathed into him the image of God; the | |
| soul of Adam. | |
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| ADAM} becomes Adam and Eve. He created him; male and female! | |
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| of soul mates is not seen in two words {no matter what your | |
| spell-check is telling you} but in one word ; soulmates!!! | |
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| born �BUT� | |
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| servant was not his family | |
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| they look at what was created �inside� of God | |
| {children/mankind}. | |
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| 6There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. | |
| 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that | |
| through him all men might believe. | |
| 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the | |
| light. | |
| 9The true light that gives light to every man was coming into | |
| the world.[b] | |
| 10He was in the world, and though the world was made through | |
| him, the world did not recognize him. | |
| 11He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive | |
| him. | |
| 12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his | |
| name, he gave the right to become children of God | |
| � 13children born not of natural descent,[c] nor of human | |
| decision or a husband's will, but born of God. | |
| 14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have | |
| seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from | |
| the Father, full of grace and truth. | |
| 15John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This | |
| was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me | |
| because he was before me.' " | |
| 16From the fullness of his grace we have all received one | |
| blessing after another. | |
| 17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came | |
| through Jesus Christ. | |
| 18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,[e][f]who | |
| is at the Father's side, has made him known. | |
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| the time of John the Baptist | |
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| JESUS as John speaks | |
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| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 27, 2013, 4:38 pm | |
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| Luke 1:1-4 | |
| Introduction | |
| 1Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that | |
| have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2just as they were handed down | |
| to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants | |
| of the word. 3Therefore, since I myself have carefully | |
| investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also | |
| to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent | |
| Theophilus, 4so that you may know the certainty of the things | |
| you have been taught. | |
| #Post#: 118-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 27, 2013, 5:16 pm | |
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| LUKE 1: 5-24 | |
| The Birth of John the Baptist Foretold | |
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| 5In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named | |
| Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his | |
| wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. | |
| 6 Both of them were upright in the sight of God, observing all | |
| the Lord's commandments and regulations blamelessly. | |
| 7 But they had no children, because Elizabeth was barren; and | |
| they were both well along in years. | |
| 8 Once when Zechariah's division was on duty and he was serving | |
| as priest before God, 9he was chosen by lot, according to the | |
| custom of the priesthood, to go into the temple of the Lord and | |
| burn incense. 10And when the time for the burning of incense | |
| came, all the assembled worshipers were praying outside. | |
| 11Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the | |
| right side of the altar of incense. 12When Zechariah saw him, he | |
| was startled and was gripped with fear. 13But the angel said to | |
| him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. | |
| Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him | |
| the name John. 14He will be a joy and delight to you, and many | |
| will rejoice because of his birth, 15for he will be great in the | |
| sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented | |
| drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from | |
| birth.[b] 16Many of the people of Israel will he bring back to | |
| the Lord their God. 17And he will go on before the Lord, in the | |
| spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to | |
| their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the | |
| righteous�to make ready a people prepared for the Lord." | |
| 18Zechariah asked the angel, "How can I be sure of this? I am | |
| an old man and my wife is well along in years." | |
| 19The angel answered, "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of | |
| God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to tell you this | |
| good news. 20And now you will be silent and not able to speak | |
| until the day this happens, because you did not believe my | |
| words, which will come true at their proper time." | |
| 21Meanwhile, the people were waiting for Zechariah and | |
| wondering why he stayed so long in the temple. | |
| 22When he came out, he could not speak to them. They realized | |
| he had seen a vision in the temple, for he kept making signs to | |
| them but remained unable to speak. | |
| 23When his time of service was completed, he returned home. | |
| 24After this his wife Elizabeth became pregnant and for five | |
| months remained in seclusion. | |
| 25"The Lord has done this for me," she said. "In these days he | |
| has shown his favor and taken away my disgrace among the | |
| people." | |
| #Post#: 119-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 28, 2013, 3:56 pm | |
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| LUKE 1:26-34 | |
| The birth of Jesus foretold | |
| 26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a | |
| town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man | |
| named Joseph, a descendant of David JOSEPH IS DESENDENDED FROM | |
| DAVID THROUGH SOLOMON (MATTHEW)AND MARY IS DESENDED FROM DAVID | |
| THROUGH NATHAN(LUKE) . The virgin's name was Mary. 28The angel | |
| went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! | |
| The Lord is with you." | |
| 29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind | |
| of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not | |
| be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be | |
| with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the | |
| name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the | |
| Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father | |
| David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his | |
| kingdom will never end." | |
| 34"How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a | |
| virgin?" | |
| DAVID -----------------& BATHSHEBA | |
| I -------------------------I I | |
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| NATHAN SOLOMON | |
| I II | |
| V V | |
| MARY JOSEPH | |
| MARY DOESN'T COME THROUGH THE LINE OF SOLOMON | |
| AS WE GO FURTHER WE WILL SEE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR JESUS TO SAVE | |
| THE WHOLE WORLD WITHOUT JOSEPH BEING MARY'S HUSBAND | |
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| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 28, 2013, 6:03 pm | |
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| LUKE 1:39-45 | |
| Mary visits Elizabeth | |
| 39At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill | |
| country of Judea, 40where she entered Zechariah's home and | |
| greeted Elizabeth. 41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the | |
| baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy | |
| Spirit. 42In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among | |
| women, and blessed is the child you will bear! | |
| 43But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should | |
| come to me? | |
| WHY MARY? | |
| WHO DOES MARY DESCEND FROM | |
| ANSWER DAVID | |
| Later we will see what makes David so important | |
| 44As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the | |
| baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45Blessed is she who has | |
| believed that what the Lord has said to her will be | |
| accomplished!" | |
| #Post#: 121-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 29, 2013, 3:29 pm | |
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| LUKE 1:46-56 | |
| Mary's Song | |
| 46And Mary said: | |
| "My soul glorifies the Lord | |
| 47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, | |
| It is the mindset of the time; that spirit is mind; | |
| Who has the spirit at this time? | |
| 48for he has been mindful | |
| of the humble state of his servant. | |
| From now on all generations will call me blessed, | |
| 49for the Mighty One has done great things for me� | |
| holy is his name. | |
| 50His mercy extends to those who fear him, | |
| from generation to generation. | |
| 51He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; | |
| he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost | |
| thoughts. | |
| 52He has brought down rulers from their thrones | |
| but has lifted up the humble. | |
| 53He has filled the hungry with good things | |
| but has sent the rich away empty. | |
| 54He has helped his servant Israel, | |
| remembering to be merciful | |
| 55to Abraham and his descendants forever, | |
| even as he said to our fathers." | |
| 56Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then | |
| returned home. | |
| #Post#: 122-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: the gospels | |
| By: alphaomega Date: January 30, 2013, 8:52 pm | |
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| LUKE 1:57-66 | |
| The Birth of John the Baptist | |
| 57When it was time for Elizabeth to have her baby, she gave | |
| birth to a son. 58Her neighbors and relatives heard that the | |
| Lord had shown her great mercy, and they shared her joy. 59On | |
| the eighth day they came to circumcise the child, and they were | |
| going to name him after his father Zechariah, 60but his mother | |
| spoke up and said, "No! He is to be called John." 61They said | |
| to her, "There is no one among your relatives who has that | |
| name." 62Then they made signs to his father, to find out what | |
| he would like to name the child. 63He asked for a writing | |
| tablet, and to everyone's astonishment he wrote, "His name is | |
| John." 64Immediately his mouth was opened and his tongue was | |
| loosed, and he began to speak, praising God. 65The neighbors | |
| were all filled with awe, and throughout the hill country of | |
| Judea people were talking about all these things. 66Everyone who | |
| heard this wondered about it, asking, "What then is this child | |
| going to be?" For the Lord's hand was with him. | |
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| right side of the altar of incense. 12When Zechariah saw him, he | |
| was startled and was gripped with fear. 13But the angel said to | |
| him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. | |
| Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him | |
| the name John. 14He will be a joy and delight to you, and many | |
| will rejoice because of his birth, 15for he will be great in the | |
| sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented | |
| drink ,HE LIKE JESUS WILL BE A NAZERINE and he will be filled | |
| with the Holy Spirit even from birth .HE HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT | |
| WITHIN HIM ; EVEN FROM BIRTH, THIS IS THE SPIRT OF ELIJAH; THE | |
| SAME HOLY SPIRIT THAT GUIDED ELIJAH. [b] 16Many of the people of | |
| Israel will he bring back to the Lord their God. 17And he will | |
| go on before the Lord[color=black],( AN ANNOCEMENT OF THE LORD ; | |
| SOON TO COME ; MARKED BY THE BIRTH OF JOHN) in the spirit and | |
| power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their | |
| children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous�to | |
| make ready a people prepared[/color] (WHAT JOHN WILL DO ; IS | |
| DONE TO PREPARE THE PEOPLE OF THAT DAY ( AND HOW WE TODAY ; WILL | |
| BE BROUGHT TO ) for the Lord." | |
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