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| Non Binary | |
| By: Val Date: March 9, 2023, 3:53 pm | |
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| What do you Thaddeans think of this | |
| https://youtu.be/S1pW6r9kjiw | |
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| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: Leslie Date: March 9, 2023, 5:46 pm | |
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| The person interviewed was from Orlando, which is in Orange | |
| County, a county which voted overwhelmingly for the Democrats | |
| I think the people who want to raise their children that way are | |
| being stupid. | |
| 'He' from Orlando said under questioning that his was a three | |
| fold family. Does that mean there are two males, and one female, | |
| or two females and one male in that family? He also said, he was | |
| LGBTQ. He is really as the interviewer pointed out influencing | |
| and teaching his two year old, or four year old to accept his | |
| views. At two how can a child understand this nonsensical view | |
| of gender. What happens when they grow up and want to change | |
| their gender to what it was when they were born. I expect some | |
| will try surgery and then suffer later on, as many have done, | |
| some attempting suicide. I think that the Governor of Florida | |
| has forbidden gender changing surgery in a recent bill, so the | |
| kids will have to leave the state to do the surgery. | |
| This genderless is almost a kind of religious belief, and when | |
| that happens after giving up belief in God, you will believe in | |
| anything. | |
| This genderless theory is based on wishful thinking, that you | |
| can be anything you want to be, you decide what people are going | |
| to call you, what pronoun they will use, or they will be | |
| punished by law. That is very selfish of them. | |
| #Post#: 2150-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: guest6 Date: March 9, 2023, 5:52 pm | |
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| I think it is a nonsense. Sam Smith (a pop singer here in the | |
| UK) says he is non binary and wants to be called "they/them". | |
| As I saw someone else put it very eloquently just look between | |
| your legs for a clue if you are not sure. | |
| #Post#: 2153-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: guest8 Date: March 10, 2023, 2:33 am | |
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| Non binary is crazy, imo. ::) | |
| #Post#: 2156-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: Gregory Date: March 10, 2023, 3:24 am | |
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| Crazy indeed. It reminds me of that ancient saying: | |
| "Whom the gods would destroy, they first send mad" (Latin: | |
| "Quem deus vult perdere prius dementat.") | |
| #Post#: 3226-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: gwinnie Date: April 4, 2023, 12:54 pm | |
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| Well, typical London thing whereby I meet so many different | |
| people on my travels (which is why I love it here so much), but | |
| I actually happen to know some trans people. I say people as | |
| some identify as women and some as men. I get on fine with them, | |
| they�re not insane, have no plans to bring down society, just | |
| want to live their lives. | |
| #Post#: 3227-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: Lyn Date: April 4, 2023, 2:11 pm | |
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| It's up to individuals what they call themselves. If a man | |
| wants to identify as a woman, wear a dress and call himself, | |
| "Sharon", I will call her, "Sharon", and refer to Sharon as | |
| 'her'. It's not my business. However it doesn't stop Sharon | |
| being biologically a man. | |
| #Post#: 3228-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: gwinnie Date: April 4, 2023, 2:17 pm | |
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| I do agree with you, Lyn. Sex and gender are different concepts. | |
| However, even biologically things are not always one or t�other. | |
| Some people are intersex.. | |
| #Post#: 3229-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: Lyn Date: April 4, 2023, 3:17 pm | |
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| Yes but that is a different matter altogether and isn't a | |
| choice. Being trans is. Intersex is also relatively rare: | |
| 1.7% of the population is estimated as being intersex and 0.5% | |
| have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations | |
| (I googled). *I saw an interesting documentary about people who | |
| were intersex some time ago, I can't remember what it was on. | |
| Will try and find it. One episode of 'Call the Midwife' dealt | |
| with a girl who had testes instead of ovaries in her abdomen. | |
| She had had no idea, just went to the doctor because she was | |
| getting married and had never menstruated. | |
| Transvestites and transsexuals don't bother me at all, people | |
| are people however they dress or what they call themselves. I | |
| have known a couple from years ago when I used to be out and | |
| about in central London, it's not a new thing by any means but | |
| we hear more about it now. Ibiza town is a revelation. | |
| There are of course real concerns about predatory men dressed as | |
| women in women-only spaces which I understand perfectly but | |
| again that could and should be addressed by law and does not | |
| apply to most trans people who just want to live their lives as | |
| best they can. | |
| *You tube: Intersexion. I don't know if it is the same doc I | |
| saw, might watch it later. | |
| #Post#: 3235-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Non Binary | |
| By: Lyn Date: April 4, 2023, 3:25 pm | |
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| [quote author=AndrewG link=topic=62.msg2150#msg2150 | |
| date=1678405928] | |
| I think it is a nonsense. Sam Smith (a pop singer here in the | |
| UK) says he is non binary and wants to be called "they/them". | |
| As I saw someone else put it very eloquently just look between | |
| your legs for a clue if you are not sure. | |
| [/quote] | |
| I don't like the 'they/them' when referring to children. People | |
| (apart from very rare intersex people mentioned in previous | |
| post, which is not always obvious anyway), are either boy or | |
| girl, he or she. When people refer to a child as 'they' or | |
| 'them' it sounds as though they are talking about several | |
| children, not just one. Some do it on Mumsnet. | |
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