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#Post#: 12--------------------------------------------------
Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: justice Date: August 23, 2015, 2:02 pm
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There is a bug in beta 23 that doesn't allow the down state to
stay depressed while the button is still active. This results in
a number or repeated button presses (typically a double press)
and inconsistent selection behavior in certain instances. This
bug has been corrected in beta 24 an on by allowing for
deselecting "simultaneous pen and touch" in the settings of
layout.
We have made simultaneous pen and touch a setting that can be
toggled on and off in all future beta's to allow the choice of
dual mode or standard mode.
NOTE* this means that the setting must be turned "on" in artist
pad settings in order to activate that feature.
#Post#: 98--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: AndyWear Date: December 8, 2015, 1:26 am
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Hi Justice,
The buttons are pretty buggy to me or I'm not using it right.
Right now when I press certain buttons, it stays depressed when
my finger is off it.
I want to be able to hold it down if I wanted to stay depressed.
It works sometimes, and sometimes it don't work.
I'm testing this mainly on Zbrush.
One of the most important key for me is the Alt key, its the
main way to navigate and zoom and when I press alt, it stays
stuck there and I can't get use to it. Anyway to turn that off?
#Post#: 104--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: justice Date: December 8, 2015, 4:39 pm
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have you updated to beta 44? by stays on do you mean stays dark
or on?
Thanks Andywear
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Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: AndyWear Date: December 9, 2015, 12:47 am
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Yep I downloaded beta 44.
By staying on,
I meant that when my finger is on and holding the button, it
releases while I'm still hold pressing it.
#Post#: 110--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: AndyWear Date: December 9, 2015, 1:05 am
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What I noticed...
If you select CTRL, ALT, SHIFT in the scroll down menu, they
become click buttons. You can't press hold on them.
When you click the boxes for CTRL, ALT, SHIFT in the click
selection, they become hold buttons. When you press on it, it
stays held even when you let go of your finger.
What I want instead is to be able to control the hold by just
holding down my finger, then releasing my finger to release the
button just like you would on a keyboard.
#Post#: 117--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: charnj Date: December 10, 2015, 11:25 pm
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this would be a cool feature.
i just leave the ctrl, alt, shift toggled...i do find it a
little frustrating when i forget to deselect the buttons when im
in the zone desiging.
using on designated hot keys, not on a standard keyboard, is new
to me. but much better than having to deal with they onscreen
keyboard taking more than a third of the screen.
#Post#: 127--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: MarioBaldi Date: December 13, 2015, 5:33 am
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Hi Justice,
as we already discussed by email, I have the exact same problems
as AndyWear described.
What we want, it's just to get the ctrl,alt,shift keys to behave
like they would do in a physical keyboard.
Instead currently these keys are buggy, don't register properly
and it is very difficult to work with them.
Also, I've noticed that basically ALL keys don't stay pressed if
you click the pen on the screen.
Example: with a standard physical keyboard, the "space" key in
zbrush must be pressed and hold to open a popup window. If the
space key is then released, the popup disappears.
Now, with TabletPro instead, if I press and hold the space key
in zbrush this popup window appears as expected, but as soon as
I click a parameter in this window with my pen, the space key
gets released even if I am still holding my finger on it, and
the popup disappears.
I believe this is common to every key in TP.
Thanks for listening.
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Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: justice Date: December 13, 2015, 2:25 pm
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Hi Mario,
Would you give something a try for me. I recently had another
user point out something to me. If you search "pen settings" in
the search bar (cortana) and switch the setting from left to
right (or vise versa) this can have a really positive impact on
the consistency of some of these issues.
For the alt key conundrum, we are actively working on that. I
agree it isn't work as desired and we think it should be fixed
as well. Thanks Mario, I love when people write in. Don't
hesitate to put more out there, it is useful to us and
appreciated!
Justice
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Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: MarioBaldi Date: December 19, 2015, 9:03 am
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Hi Justice,
Thank you for your suggestion, but this isn't making the
experience any better for me.
Right to Left doesn't solve the issue.
Now it even looks like it's impossible to press two or more
modifier keys at the same time: sometimes they do, most of the
time not.
And yet, every key gets released as soon as the pen touches the
screen.
One question: are you trying your application with a surface pro
4, with the "Disable ctrl, alt, shift toggle" option checked?
Because it sounds strange to me, that after all this feedback,
you suggest a fix that doesn't work.
I want to like this app, but so far has been of no use to me,
and its getting frustrating.
Apologies if this sounds too harsh: I understand it's still in
beta.
Thank you,
M.
#Post#: 156--------------------------------------------------
Re: Buttons not staying depressed in layout mode of beta 23
By: justice Date: December 23, 2015, 11:42 am
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Hi Mario,
No worries on coming across strong, I would be frustrated in
your position as well. I have an i7 Surface Book and test both
with the screen attached and detached (detached mode is 99.9%
similar to the Surface Pro 4) I also have toggle disabled.
Currently my system is firing on all cylinders. We also have
many Surface Pro 4 users who are experiencing the same things.
That has very little to do with your personal situation except
to say that I believe whatever is wrong can be figured out. If
you don't mind can we switch to looking into this via email and
then post our results here? I check the forum once for every 20
times I check my email. Justice(a)tabletpro.net
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