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#Post#: 12832--------------------------------------------------
Analysis Requests
By: Dr. Egregious Date: November 16, 2013, 8:45 pm
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As I mentioned before, I thought it might be fun and informative
if I started this thread, and my workload has finally cleared up
to allow it; if you've finished with a game and you'd like some
advice and constructive criticism move by move, feel free to
copy/paste your PGN here, and I'll try to have it done within
twenty-four hours. If you just want feedback on a few
particular moves, I can do that in short order. :)
#Post#: 12919--------------------------------------------------
Re: Analysis Requests
By: Taylor Date: November 18, 2013, 4:17 am
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SHANE vs TAYLOR
[tt]01. e4 g5
02. Nh3 f6
03. Bb5 Nh6
04. d4 c6
05. O-O g4
06. Qxg4 f5
07. Ng5 f4
08. Qh5+ Nf7
09. Nxf7 Qa5
10. Nd6+ Kd8
11. Qe8+ Kc7
12. Qxc8+ Kxd6
13. e5+ Kd5
14. Nc3+ Ke6
15. Bc4+ Kf5
16. g4+ fxg3 e.p.
17. fxg3+ Kg6
18. Bd3+ Kg7
19. Rf4 kg8
20. Qxf8++[/tt]
I already know about the first part where I deliberately wanted
Shane to win via a Fool's Mate on Black's side.
At some point a game of "Tag" appeared to start; the King was
running for his life most of the time :))
Was there anything I missed, after post 9459 when Shane wrote a
wall of text
http://shanescavestory.createaforum.com/chess-archives/preliminary-chess-round-…
There was an error in your notation on turn 16.
Pawns can't just magically jump to the same row as the opposing
team's starting row. :P ~ KarjamP
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Re: Analysis Requests
By: Shane Date: November 18, 2013, 9:42 am
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This post
http://shanescavestory.createaforum.com/chess-archives/preliminary-chess-round-…
/>and this post
http://shanescavestory.createaforum.com/chess-archives/preliminary-chess-round-…
/>should probably help out. Taylor invoked En Passant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant,
so Taylor's f4 Pawn
could capture a pawn on g4 and move to g3.
... Right?
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Re: Analysis Requests
By: KarjamP Date: November 18, 2013, 10:04 am
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I had figured out the problem and actually fixed it: The
notation said that Taylor's pawn moved two steps forward to en
passant instead of one step: an invalid move.
#Post#: 12972--------------------------------------------------
Re: Analysis Requests
By: Taylor Date: November 18, 2013, 10:05 am
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Ergo, Shane slipped up, not me. :P
The notation was a copy/paste from our match after he won.
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Re: Analysis Requests
By: Dr. Egregious Date: November 18, 2013, 10:29 am
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Apologies, Taylor; I suppose somehow I never noticed that you
and Shane had called for an opinion in that game. XD Didn't
mean to ignore you.
Anyway. I'd say 10. ... Qa5 was the best option you had,
because it didn't result in instant death and it saved your
queen. Shane missed one thing in his analysis, though; had you
played 9. ... Bh6, the best counter would've been 10. Nxh6+ Kf8
(forced) 11. Qf7#.
10-11: There's not much to say; you only had one possible move
each time.
13: 13. ... Ke6 might've been better, because there are still
plenty of threatening pieces left on the board and d5 isn't
really a safe place for a king until you're mostly down to pawns
and a rook or two.
16. Props for remembering en passant in the heat of the moment,
but I would've just played 16. Kxg5 instead. That way your pawn
wouldn't be left open to recapture by two of Shane's pawns.
19. Rather than 19. ... Kg8, you needed to leave g8 open so that
your rook could protect your bishop and prevent Qxf8#. You
needed to get your queen into play to stand a chance, really,
and the quickest way I'm seeing is e6, Qb4, Qe7.
You didn't miss much, after Move 10; there's only so much you
can do when your opponent can keep putting you in check and
you've only got one or two ways to escape.
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Re: Analysis Requests
By: Taylor Date: November 18, 2013, 12:09 pm
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[quote author=Dr. Egregious link=topic=733.msg12982#msg12982
date=1384792174]
Apologies, Taylor; I suppose somehow I never noticed that you
and Shane had called for an opinion in that game. XD Didn't
mean to ignore you.[/quote]
No worries. :)
[quote author=Dr. Egregious link=topic=733.msg12982#msg12982
date=1384792174]
Anyway. I'd say 10. ... Qa5 was the best option you had,
because it didn't result in instant death and it saved your
queen. Shane missed one thing in his analysis, though; had you
played 9. ... Bh6, the best counter would've been 10. Nxh6+ Kf8
(forced) 11. Qf7#.[/quote]
Not to mention he missed Qa5 as well :))
Guess that's what happens if you don't have a physical
chessboard and have to resort to a mind-one.
[quote author=Dr. Egregious link=topic=733.msg12982#msg12982
date=1384792174]
10-11: There's not much to say; you only had one possible move
each time.
13: 13. ... Ke6 might've been better, because there are still
plenty of threatening pieces left on the board and d5 isn't
really a safe place for a king until you're mostly down to pawns
and a rook or two.[/quote]
I see...
[quote author=Dr. Egregious link=topic=733.msg12982#msg12982
date=1384792174]
16. Props for remembering en passant in the heat of the moment,
but I would've just played 16. Kxg5 instead. That way your pawn
wouldn't be left open to recapture by two of Shane's
pawns.[/quote]
I hadn't seen Shane's rook on g1; I thought he'd move his Bishop
to d3.
I kinda like en passant, and I especially like matches with
eight of them. :3
[quote author=Dr. Egregious link=topic=733.msg12982#msg12982
date=1384792174]
19. Rather than 19. ... Kg8, you needed to leave g8 open so that
your rook could protect your bishop and prevent Qxf8#. You
needed to get your queen into play to stand a chance, really,
and the quickest way I'm seeing is e6, Qb4, Qe7.
You didn't miss much, after Move 10; there's only so much you
can do when your opponent can keep putting you in check and
you've only got one or two ways to escape.
[/quote]
I see...
Thank you very much, Dr. Egregious! :)
#Post#: 13012--------------------------------------------------
Re: Analysis Requests
By: Shane Date: November 19, 2013, 12:26 am
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Wait, eight en passants? :o
EDIT:
Thread stickied; I believe such a thread is important. :)
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Re: Analysis Requests
By: Dr. Egregious Date: November 19, 2013, 2:11 pm
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You're most welcome. :)
Eight en passant captures? I've never seen more than one per
game in practice; eight in one game is possible, but you'd
basically have to be working together with your opponent to make
it happen. Eight is also the absolute maximum that can happen,
since any en passant capture will either remove one of your
pawns or move one of your pawns to the sixth rank, where it can
no longer capture en passant.
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Re: Analysis Requests
By: Charlotte Date: November 20, 2013, 4:41 am
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That was against me; someone at these forums were wondering how
many en passants were possible in one game.
I think it was Shane, I'm not sure, though. :)
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