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| The smoke of Satan ? | |
| By: Twinc Date: March 6, 2016, 6:26 am | |
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| would anyone like to shed some more light on this ? - twinc | |
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| Re: The smoke of Satan ? | |
| By: Kerry Date: March 6, 2016, 8:03 pm | |
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| I assume you are referring to the comment Pope Paul IV made. I | |
| think his statement was correct. Unfortunately, I also think he | |
| failed to do what it would take to remove it. Perhaps he didn't | |
| know what to do; or perhaps he knew but lacked the courage to | |
| do it. I can't judge that part. | |
| The current Pope is doing some things to "air out" the Vatican. | |
| For this, some have opposed him, even a few Cardinals have | |
| opposed him and said unkind things; and when I heard some things | |
| his critics said, it seemed to me some demons were shrieking as | |
| they were being forced out. | |
| Popes and Bishops and even priests must be constantly vigilant. | |
| If they are not watching the sheep as they ought, dark forces | |
| can enter and even infiltrate the Church itself and get wicked | |
| men promoted. | |
| #Post#: 3756-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The smoke of Satan ? | |
| By: Twinc Date: March 7, 2016, 1:14 am | |
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| perhaps you might care to comment on Pope Francis and his mafia | |
| bunch known as the St. Gallen conspiracy that supposedly forced | |
| Pope Benedict to resign and Francis to be installed - what about | |
| the genuine crisis in the Church[Veritatis Splendor] and the | |
| widespread religious ignorance as stated by Pope Benedict have | |
| these been sorted out or added to - twinc | |
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| Re: The smoke of Satan ? | |
| By: Kerry Date: March 7, 2016, 5:51 am | |
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| [quote author=Twinc link=topic=426.msg3756#msg3756 | |
| date=1457334843] | |
| perhaps you might care to comment on Pope Francis and his mafia | |
| bunch known as the St. Gallen conspiracy that supposedly forced | |
| Pope Benedict to resign and Francis to be installed - what about | |
| the genuine crisis in the Church[Veritatis Splendor] and the | |
| widespread religious ignorance as stated by Pope Benedict have | |
| these been sorted out or added to - twinc | |
| [/quote]I had never heard of the St. Gallen group until now; but | |
| from what I have read, they had nothing to do with Pope | |
| Benedict's resignation. They appear to have been most active | |
| when John-Paul II was Pope, seeking to counter the influence of | |
| the then Cardinal Ratzinger. I can understand that. From | |
| lifesitenews | |
| https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/swiss-bishops-confirm-existence-of-cardina… | |
| /> | |
| But it is wrong to draw a connection between the group of St. | |
| Gallen with the resignation of Pope Benedict, since the meetings | |
| did not take place any more after 2006; the resignation of Pope | |
| Benedict took place in 2013. | |
| My own impression is that Benedict got tired. It seemed to me | |
| every time I saw a photo of him, he looked older, weaker and | |
| maybe sicker than before. | |
| I had also not heard of Veritatis Splendor. Most encyclicals | |
| seem like Popes stumbling along to me. If the Catholic Church | |
| has eternal truths, what need is there for a Pope to write | |
| anything? | |
| #Post#: 3760-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The smoke of Satan ? | |
| By: Twinc Date: March 7, 2016, 9:09 am | |
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| I can only supposed that one would get tired, weak and sick if | |
| over the years one was sniped at and frustrated - it seems you | |
| have not read what Cardinal Daneels has supposedly written - | |
| twinc | |
| #Post#: 3763-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The smoke of Satan ? | |
| By: Kerry Date: March 9, 2016, 12:45 am | |
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| [quote author=Twinc link=topic=426.msg3760#msg3760 | |
| date=1457363396] | |
| I can only supposed that one would get tired, weak and sick if | |
| over the years one was sniped at and frustrated - it seems you | |
| have not read what Cardinal Daneels has supposedly written - | |
| twinc | |
| [/quote]No, I don't know much about him. The Catholic | |
| Register | |
| http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-danneels-part-of-mafia-cl… | |
| />said this about him last year: | |
| Further serious concerns are being raised about Cardinal | |
| Godfried Danneels, one of the papal delegates chosen to attend | |
| the upcoming Ordinary Synod on the Family, after the archbishop | |
| emeritus of Brussels confessed this week to being part of a | |
| radical "mafia" reformist group opposed to Benedict XVI. | |
| It was also revealed this week that he once wrote a letter to | |
| the Belgium government favoring same-sex "marriage" legislation | |
| because it ended discrimination against LGBT groups. | |
| The cardinal is already known for having once advised the king | |
| of Belgium to sign an abortion law in 1990, for telling a victim | |
| of clerical sex abuse to keep quiet, and for refusing to forbid | |
| pornographic, �educational� materials being used in Belgian | |
| Catholic schools. | |
| He also once said same-sex �marriage� was a �positive | |
| development,� although he has sought to distinguish such a union | |
| from the Church�s understanding of marriage. | |
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