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	The promise of the Holy Spirit
	By: Colin Feener Date: October 29, 2015, 3:07 am
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	I've spoken on this several times lately but on other
	topics. I'm a bit concerned people may think I am turning
	against my Lord and savior Jesus but I most certainly am not.
	When Jesus promised us the father would send us the helper, and
	he called him there the Spirit of truth along with the Holy
	Spirit, he told us first. He who knows me knows the father, he
	who hates me hates the father and loves me loves the father.They
	then even admitted they did not know the father and they
	believed the did know Jesus.This is the most important thing I
	believe for all Christian believers. to receive the Holy Spirit.
	I even think people cannot be saved without the Holy Spirit.
	Jesus also said he is the teacher, he himself, Jesus ,yet he
	sends the Spirit to teach us the ways of God and truth and
	called him the helper who will teach us. See, there is some
	controversy there if you don't understand. And Jesus also said
	there the father would not send the helper unless Jesus leaves
	them and goes back to the father. We cannot receive Jesus and
	have the Holy Spirit at the beginning of our walk with him. Even
	in the bible they say often the Holy Spirit had not yet been
	given, but again you see where John and several people were said
	to be filled with the Holy Spirit.Then there is where he said. I
	am the truth and the truth will set you free. The helper is said
	to be the Spirit of truth. The Holy Spirit was there right at
	the very beginning moving over the waters. The word was made
	flesh, he was the word with God and was God. The Holy Spirit,
	one and the same and the Holy Spirit was his father too and he
	said I and the father are one and the same. But he was made
	flesh, God incarnant, God with us.
	When Jesus was made he was the word and the word was with God
	and it was made flesh but just as the word in the bible is not
	written in righteousness to the sinner who does not understand,
	the word is just the same.We don't understand the bible, we
	don't understand Jesus and less we see Jesus as the word of God
	made plain to us in our understanding we are in error . That's
	why it said so many times in John's revelation book, they drop
	dead before him. Us too unless we see him in the living risen
	way. When he was with them they could only see the fleshy Jesus
	and us too when we read the word.
	If you stop seeing the literal word and believing it as the
	truth, until then Jesus is still with you in his sinful nature.
	When we seek out the Spiritual understanding, that is the Holy
	Spirit and then we see the son and the father and they are one
	and the same. At the point in time we see the Lamb for sacrafice
	and the true Jesus is seen just like when Abraham was willing to
	give up his son for God n God showed him a sacrafice stuck to a
	tree and with Jesus too, the son didn't die but was raised up to
	the father, Yes Jesus did bleed and die for us but you have to
	bring him back by giving up the flesh and my friend if you can
	only do that, you will have served the Lord well and received
	your new life and the second death will have no part with you.
	If I have taught you anything it is because the Lord trusted
	me with his teachings bit thid is the most important thing as I
	see it now for us as believers to do.
	I hope, your friend
	Collin Russell Feener, a servant of the Lord, a messenger from
	God
	If any of you read and believe this please comment and I will
	not feel so alone.
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	Re: The promise of the Holy Spirit
	By: Colin Feener Date: October 29, 2015, 4:35 am
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	I do expect many people would say they have received the
	Holy Spirit when they were baptized and a priest or minister
	said the words, i baptize you in the name of the father, son and
	holy Spirit but this is all error. You cannot baptize some one
	into anything by just saying you do , Its like saying I cloth
	you in the teaching but they put no cloth on you by saying the
	words. They have to put the cloth on you. Word spoken without
	action, or saying without doing, does nothing but deceive
	people.The whole world has been deceived in this way. That's
	like, you aren't a priest just because you wear the robes, you
	have to learn first. You can't be a priest because someone just
	said the word over you. You have to be taught first. And people
	say only God can give you the Holy Spirit. If that was the4 case
	Jesus would not have told us to baptize people into his name.
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