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| The Clintons and Scientology | |
| By: hellboy Date: March 1, 2016, 9:53 am | |
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| Scientology is not a church, it is a dangerous cult based on | |
| brainwash-techniques and oppression, a criminal mob that has | |
| it's own secret service to threaten and put out opponents. | |
| Scientology-founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote that church enemies may | |
| "be deprived of property or injured by any means by any | |
| Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May | |
| be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed." | |
| Low-ranking members of the cult are refused medical treatment. | |
| They are instead accused of not being "clear" enough, and | |
| therefore put into concentration-camps to dwell in pain and | |
| agony until they die. Members are deprived from their friends | |
| and families who refuse to become members of the cult or who | |
| leave it. Low ranking members are forced to give all their | |
| possessions to the cult, and work like machines without an own | |
| will for their masters and their profit. Scientology provides | |
| anti-drug-treatment | |
| http://crackpots.us/ | |
| and educational facilities that are not | |
| recognizable as Scientology-operated. People go there to get | |
| cured or educated and end up as brainwashed slaves of mobsters. | |
| The Clintons and Scientology have a long history of | |
| collaboration. Scientology has funded the election-campaigns of | |
| both Bill and Hillary. Several actors, all of them | |
| Scientology-members, funded Hillary Clinton's campaign for | |
| Senate with over $70.000,-, Tom Cruise presented Albert Gore | |
| with $5.000,-, and John Travolta along with some other | |
| Scientology-members gave a Gala-Diner in favor of the democrats | |
| (entry-fee: $25.000,-). | |
| In return right after Bill got elected in 1993 Scientology got | |
| Tax-Exempt status like a religion, after the IRC had refused | |
| that for decades, despite the mafia-methods used against its | |
| employees | |
| http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/essays/nytimes.html. | |
| The New | |
| York Times reports: "The full story of the turnabout by the IRS | |
| has remained hidden behind taxpayer privacy laws for nearly four | |
| years. But an examination by The New York Times found that the | |
| exemption followed a series of unusual internal IRS actions that | |
| came after an extraordinary campaign orchestrated by Scientology | |
| against the agency and people who work there." | |
| On the basis of the IRS ruling, the State Department formally | |
| criticized Germany | |
| http://m.state.gov/md24410.htm | |
| for discriminating against | |
| Scientologists. The German government regards the organization | |
| as a business, not a tax-exempt religion, the very position | |
| maintained for 25 years by the U.S. government. | |
| [quote="examiner"]How serious is Hillary and Bill Clinton's | |
| relationship with Scientology? | |
| The fact that Hillary Clinton has ties with Wall Street fat cats | |
| and shady international business interests has already been | |
| documented. The Daily Caller, in a Sunday piece, revealed that | |
| Hillary and, to a certain extent, Bill Clinton has some ties | |
| with the Church of Scientology. The story relates how Greg | |
| Mitchell, the head of a lobbying firm called The Mitchell Firm | |
| and a Scientologist, lobbied the Hillary Clinton State | |
| Department to enlist its support for what it calls religious | |
| freedom in foreign countries where the church is not recognized | |
| as a legitimate religion. | |
| Bill Clinton, as president, ordered the IRS to give Scientology | |
| tax-exempt status as a recognized church in the United States. | |
| The Clintons also have ties with Scientology through their | |
| relationships with Hollywood supporters who are members of the | |
| church, such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta, both of whom | |
| lobbied Bill Clinton when he was president on issues of interest | |
| to Scientology. The church is popular in the entertainment | |
| community. | |
| Scientology was created several decades ago by science fiction | |
| writer L. Ron Hubbard and is based on bizarre beliefs concerning | |
| psychotherapy and space aliens, as detailed by the Skeptical | |
| Inquirer. Some evidence suggests that Hubbard created the church | |
| as a money making scam. He is alleged to have said, �The way to | |
| make a million dollars is to start a religion." Hubbard never | |
| wrote this statement down, but the quote in various forms comes | |
| from multiple sources. | |
| More ominously, as the HBO documentary �Going Clear� documented, | |
| the Church of Scientology engaged in psychological and sometimes | |
| physical abuse of its members, an allegation the church has | |
| denied. The church has also engaged in vigorous �lawfare� | |
| against many of its critics, attempting to silence any adverse | |
| publicity in the media and on the Internet. | |
| The Daily Caller story has note revealed what if any service the | |
| State Department has rendered in response to the Church of | |
| Scientology�s lobbying efforts. The lobbying has continued after | |
| Clinton left the State Department when John Kerry took over as | |
| Secretary of State.[/quote] | |
| http://www.examiner.com/article/how-serious-is-hillary-and-bill-clinton-s-relat… | |
| [quote="tmr"]Bill Clinton, Tom Cruise Plotted to Use Tony Blair | |
| to Gain Tax Breaks for Scientology | |
| Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife Cherie | |
| were targeted by Hollywood actor Tom Cruise and former President | |
| Bill Clinton to give tax breaks to the controversial Church of | |
| Scientology, it is revealed today. | |
| Clinton and Cruise plotted for months to overturn a legal ruling | |
| which refused to grant Scientology charity status in Britain. At | |
| one point the former President suggested he directly approached | |
| Cherie Blair for help as �she was a practising lawyer and would | |
| understand the details'. | |
| These astonishing claims were made by former Scientology second | |
| in command Marty Rathbun on German TV who described sitting in | |
| the room at the Scientology base in Clearwater, Florida in 2003 | |
| with Tom Cruise when he called the former President. �It wasn�t | |
| just one call it was many�, Rathbun confirmed later. | |
| He said that the Hollywood star and the former President, then | |
| involved in raising funds for his own Clinton Foundation | |
| charity, spoke many times on how best to lobby the Prime | |
| Minister and his wife so that they could use their influence to | |
| change Scientology�s charity - and hence tax status - in | |
| Britain. | |
| ... | |
| Before he was given the award Cruise lobbied Clinton at every | |
| opportunity, meeting him for dinner at the Hollywood homes of | |
| director Steven Spielberg and producer David Geffen. He called | |
| him numerous times at his Foundation office in Harlem, New York, | |
| to work out the most effective strategy to overturn a 1999 | |
| Charity Commission ruling that Scientology, founded by science | |
| fiction writer L Ron Hubbard in 1954, was not a charity and was | |
| not eligible for tax breaks. | |
| Rathbun, who was the Inspector General of the Religious | |
| Technology Centre until 2004, said that he would audit Cruise - | |
| the Scienotology equivalent to the confessional - and then he | |
| would call Clinton or his staff in Harlem. �There was a lot of | |
| back and forth�, he recalled. �At one point Clinton said to Tom | |
| that it would be better to go through Cherie Blair as she was a | |
| lawyer and had a tax background�. | |
| ... | |
| Scientology in Britain has a long and chequered past. In the | |
| 1970s Harold Wilson�s government described the sect as �mafia | |
| like� and put senior officials under surveillance. In 1975, | |
| internal correspondence from the Home Office said: �The Church | |
| of Scientology does not merely persuade people to part with | |
| their money. It is a harmful movement with an evil reputation.� | |
| It classified the group as �an organisation designed to make | |
| money, and perhaps also to gain power� which targeted �the | |
| anxious, the lonely, the inadequate, the credulous and deluded�. | |
| In a High Court ruling in 1984, Judge Latey labelled the Church | |
| of Scientology a "cult", "corrupt, sinister and dangerous...out | |
| to capture people...and brainwash them." | |
| ... | |
| the whole story | |
| http://www.themortonreport.com/celebrity/notables/exclusive-bill-clinton-tom-cr… | |
| [quote]Hillary Clinton wrote to CMU for Scientology asking them | |
| to fire Prof. David S. Touretzky | |
| "Greenway talked about how the Church [of Scientology] has | |
| gotten numerous letters sent to CMU about Touretzky including | |
| one from Hillary Clinton asking that he be fired, but CMU still | |
| stands behind him because they don�t care what he does on his | |
| free time." | |
| Mark "Marty" Rathbun: Scientology Infiltrates Carnegie Mellon | |
| University | |
| http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/scientology-infiltrates-carnegie-me… | |
| The following is a report from Invest Aide OSA INT (Office of | |
| Special Affairs International, the propaganda and dirty tricks | |
| arm of David Miscavige�s church of Scientology International) on | |
| dealing with Scientology critic David S. Touretzky � professor | |
| at Carnegie Mellon University. Note that it is titled �DR�. That | |
| stands for Daily Report. There are dozens of these daily reports | |
| in OSA INT files on Touretzky. There are hundreds of such | |
| reports on more effective critics. There are thousands of these | |
| types of reports on those critics whom David Miscavige considers | |
| a threat to himself personally and who have withstood | |
| Scientology�s wrath over time. Ask yourself: should United | |
| States taxpayers be subsidizing an organization that spends its | |
| considerable dollars on such hijinks? And, what is with | |
| Scientology�s apparent predilection for inserting sex toys into | |
| their operations? | |
| full report | |
| http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3131478/posts[/quote] | |
| Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief | |
| Written and directed by Academy Award� winner Alex Gibney and | |
| based on the book by Pulitzer Prize winner Lawrence Wright, | |
| GOING CLEAR: SCIENTOLOGY AND THE PRISON OF BELIEF is a | |
| provocative tale of ego, exploitation and lust for power. The | |
| film profiles eight former members of the Church of Scientology, | |
| whose most prominent adherents include A-list Hollywood | |
| celebrities, shining a light on how the church cultivates true | |
| believers, detailing their experiences and what they are willing | |
| to do in the name of religion | |
| https://documentaryaddict.com/films/going-clear-scientology-and-the-prison-of-b… | |
| Scientologists believe that every human being is just a baring | |
| for at "thetan", an immortal alien spirit. Do Americans really | |
| want to give a person under influence of such people the | |
| possibility to push that red button, because she might believe | |
| that all thetans will rise from the fire as finally freed | |
| intergalactic warriors? | |
| Hillary also demanded the Moon-Unification-Cult | |
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Myung_Moon | |
| should also be | |
| given Tax-Exempt status like a religion, despite it being | |
| charged by the United States government with willfully filing | |
| false federal income tax returns, and found guilty. In return | |
| she was given a regular page in Moon's own Washington Times. | |
| Obviously Mrs. Clinton is ready to act in favor of any | |
| organization that funds or supports her campaign, no matter of | |
| what nature that organization is. | |
| A person who has as close relations with dangerous mobsters like | |
| Scientology as Hillary Clinton is not fit to be president of the | |
| United States of America. She has proven that she is ready to | |
| sell her soul and her presidency to just about everyone who is | |
| willing to fund her campaigns, and she has shown that she will | |
| do whatever her sponsors want in return. She claims she had such | |
| great friends amongst European politicians, but the respect for | |
| her is limited, because Europeans do not like to be lectured | |
| about what is a religion and what is a criminal organization. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 3924-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Hillary Clinton is totally wrong about Export-Import-Bank | |
| By: hellboy Date: April 14, 2016, 10:03 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Export-Import-Bank not possible in the EU | |
| HRC claims, that the Export-Import-Bank aka "bank of Boeing" is | |
| necessary, because the EU supports it's companies as well. She | |
| says she knew that, because she has spent so much time visiting | |
| Europe. I don't know which Europe she has been to, but the | |
| European Union strictly rules out direct payments to companies | |
| to give them advantage in business competition. In fact some | |
| major companies had to pay back such payments, and the companies | |
| and the countries that payed were fined for breaking the rules | |
| of fairness in capitalism. Isn't it embarrassing to Americans, | |
| that Europeans are still the better capitalists, because we try | |
| to force everyone to play by the same set of rules? We even do | |
| that when others act in contrary to that, and a direct | |
| competition like Boeing is to the European aircraft-producer | |
| Airbus gets money from the state, and therefore has an advantage | |
| in business, because it is the right thing to do. We don't act | |
| against our own principles, just because others do that. | |
| If HRC knows so much about European politics, how comes she | |
| doesn't know this? Is that her so called experience? European | |
| countries support companies by providing a working | |
| infrastructure from which everyone profits, not just business, | |
| they provide healthy workforce through guaranteed medical | |
| healthcare and they provide free education up to university | |
| degrees to have the best trained workers possible. And they | |
| protect themselves from companies becoming too big to fail by | |
| proper anti-trust-laws. We don't call that socialism at this | |
| side of the pond, we call it reason. Bernie Sanders demands all | |
| that, so he is a socialist in the political landscape of the US | |
| by all means, but from a European point of view he is a straight | |
| out liberal. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 3925-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Hillary Clinton's Goldman Sachs transcripts will be leaked | |
| By: hellboy Date: April 19, 2016, 9:41 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| There is no way that these Goldman-Sachs papers will not be | |
| leaked. There are persons for sure who have a copy or their own | |
| recording and are not in favor of the Democratic Party, and are | |
| only waiting for the right moment to leak it. And that moment | |
| will be very close to the election, when there will be no more | |
| time to react. | |
| Mrs Clinton has been sloppy with the protection of classified | |
| information in the past, so nobody should expect that she was | |
| able to protect these transcripts. Some people have them, and | |
| they will leak them. | |
| The superdelegates must not wait until then, and take their | |
| responsibility serious. They must demand to see these | |
| transcripts, if there is no way to get reasonable for Mrs | |
| Clinton even behind closed doors, so they can decide whether | |
| they contain things that could throw her out of the presidential | |
| contest. Otherwise they would hand the presidency to Donald | |
| Trump. | |
| It is totally irresponsible of Mrs Clinton to think she could | |
| keep the content of her speeches secret until the election, and | |
| it is for sure not presidential to act like this. What's the | |
| plan anyways? To keep it secret until she is president, and then | |
| it would be to late to hold her responsible for it, and so | |
| everything would be fine? That's crazy! If there is anything in | |
| there that she wants to keep secret, and there must be | |
| something, what else could be the reason to keep them secret, it | |
| must be revealed before it is to late. And that is as soon as | |
| possible. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 3928-------------------------------------------------- | |
| TTIP: HRC's favourite trade-deal declared dead | |
| By: hellboy Date: May 27, 2016, 5:13 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| [quote="politico"]Back in 2012, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary | |
| Clinton hailed a proposed transatlantic free trade pact as a | |
| job-creating, growth-boosting �economic NATO� that would forge | |
| new ties between old allies. | |
| Three years later, hopeful presidential candidate Hillary | |
| Clinton appears less enthusiastic. | |
| �Can you make it go away?� was the only-half-joking response of | |
| her campaign chairman, John Podesta, to a recent question on the | |
| trade deal now being negotiated between the United States and | |
| European Union. | |
| Cooling ardor on both sides of the Atlantic threatens the very | |
| existence of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership | |
| (TTIP), which was launched in a series of promising talks | |
| between Brussels and Washington in 2013. | |
| Since then, TTIP has lost some of its shine, as the trade talks | |
| attracted unprecedented levels of public opposition. | |
| Over 2.6 million people across Europe have signed a petition to | |
| stop TTIP and a smaller EU deal with Canada. | |
| Concern over the impact of TTIP has united disparate groups � | |
| from French farmers to German constitutional lawyers and | |
| politicians on the left and right. | |
| �TTIP represents a monumental power grab by corporations and it | |
| must be stopped in its tracks,� Keith Taylor, a British Green | |
| Party legislator told a recent European Parliament debate. | |
| In the U.S., TTIP has been overshadowed by its Pacific | |
| counterpart, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Skeptics, who | |
| fear the impact of both deals on American jobs, include | |
| progressive Democrats, Tea Party protectionists and labor | |
| unions.[/quote] | |
| http://www.politico.eu/article/will-ttip-be-an-economic-nato/ | |
| In the EU every decision must be unanimous. In Austria meanwhile | |
| all political parties declared, that there is no chance at all | |
| that they would ever sign TTIP. That's why TTIP is to be | |
| declared dead, and that's why the Clinton-campaign wants that | |
| topic to "go away". Well, it will not just go away, this is a | |
| major blow for her strategy on international trade. A strategy | |
| made to serve the interests of Wall Street and companies like | |
| Goldman Sachs, and that gives us an idea what Mrs Clinton said | |
| in her speeches there, that she is so desperately trying to keep | |
| secret. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 4145-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The Clintons and Scientology | |
| By: hellboy Date: October 7, 2016, 6:07 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| [quote author=hellboy link=topic=642.msg3925#msg3925 | |
| date=1461120075] | |
| There is no way that these papers will not be leaked. There are | |
| persons for sure who have a copy or their own recording and are | |
| not in favor of the Democratic Party, and are only waiting for | |
| the right moment to leak it. And that moment will be very close | |
| to the election, when there will be no more time to react. | |
| Mrs Clinton has been sloppy with the protection of classified | |
| information in the past, so nobody should expect that she was | |
| able to protect these transcripts. Some people have them, and | |
| they will leak them. | |
| [/quote] | |
| Well, I told you so. | |
| https://theintercept.com/2016/10/07/excerpts-of-hillary-clintons-paid-speeches-… | |
| Why the hack didn�t they listen? Noobs! | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 4149-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The Clintons and Scientology | |
| By: pet Date: October 9, 2016, 6:14 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Geh�rt nicht ganz zum Thema, weil das Internet und | |
| seine atemberaubende Sch�nheit und Weisheit im Mittelpunkt | |
| steht, aber hier ist ein l�ngerer Kommentar zur | |
| Pr�sidentschaftswahl: | |
| https://www.fischundfleisch.com/hawaiipiraten-von-oesterreich/hillary-gegen-tru… | |
| Interessiert auf F&F nat�rlich niemanden, weil es kein | |
| �sterreich- oder Fl�chtlingsthema ist, aber vielleicht kommen | |
| ab morgen ein paar Leute, denen im B�ro fad ist (so ist | |
| das eigentlich immer). | |
| Was nicht im Artikel steht: | |
| 1.) Niveau im Wahlkampf sinkt weiter. Eine Schlagzeile lautet | |
| "[Bill] Clinton kriegte Pipi-Lutschi und wurde trotzdem | |
| wiedergew�hlt", | |
| eine andere will mit geilen Bekenntnissen einer Verflossenen | |
| Hillary als lesbisch hinstellen: "Bill [Clinton]: 'Hillary | |
| leckte | |
| noch mehr Muschi als ich". Es handelt sich nicht um meine | |
| �bertreibungen, | |
| sondern um naturgetreue �bersetzungen aus dem Englischen. | |
| Was mir pers�nlich noch abgeht, | |
| ist eine �ffentliche Erkl�rung des Secret Service der 90er: | |
| "Wir waren im Loyalit�tskonflikt, weil die First Lady den | |
| Pr�sidenten st�ndig ohrfeigte und d�gelte. So brutal war | |
| nicht einmal Barbara Eisenhower." | |
| 2.) Julian hat endlich wieder was geleakt, wie El Hel schon | |
| oben erkl�rte, und auch dazugesagt: "Ab jetzt werden die | |
| Leaks bis zur Wahl immer geiler und verbrecherischer, harhar!" | |
| Er hat halt einen Pick auf die Clintons, seit ihre Mitarbeiter | |
| �ffentlich erkl�rten, sie wollen Julian tot sehen. | |
| 3.) Trumpi wird zur Last gelegt, ein Lustgreis zu sein, der | |
| sich in einer sexy Radio-Show �ber sein Sexualleben | |
| ge�u�ert hat, in der er seine Schlampen objektifizierte. | |
| Schlagzeile, Titelseite: "Pack sie an der Muschi!" | |
| (Howard Stern, f�r wer ihn kennt. Jimbos Dreckschleuder | |
| wei� mehr: | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stern) | |
| Au�erdem bezeichnete er irgendwelche Promis als "blad" | |
| und "deppert", was aber nur hartgesottene Hillary-Apostel | |
| emp�rt. | |
| 4.) Hillary will laut Lippenbekenntnis die Damen besser | |
| vor Vergewaltigern sch�tzen, allerdings melden sich jetzt | |
| laut Schlagzeilen Vergewaltigungsopfer, deren Vergewaltiger | |
| von Hillary gesch�tzt wurden -- als selbige Strafverteidigerin | |
| war. Hillary ist offenbar on Record, wie sie lachend erz�hlt, | |
| wie sie ein damals 12 Jahre altes M�dchen vor Gericht | |
| als fr�hreifes Biest hinstellte, das eh gerne vergewaltigt | |
| wird, weil es in ihrem Tagebuch stand. | |
| Das ist ein wirklich extrem primitiver Wahlkampf -- NOCH | |
| besser als Palin/McCain gegen Obama/Biden 2008! Endlich | |
| Spa� und Unterhaltung in der Politik! | |
| Wers nicht glaubt, soll sich den heutigen Drudge-Report | |
| ansehen, es ist wirklich sehr schr�g: | |
| http://drudgereport.com | |
| #Post#: 4154-------------------------------------------------- | |
| HRC's claim wikileaks was Russian is so pathetic | |
| By: hellboy Date: October 13, 2016, 5:11 pm | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| The leaks are so far relatively boring. That politicians talk | |
| differently to brokers then they talk to the public is no | |
| surprise and was commonly expected. The idea of open borders may | |
| be a nightmare for some paranoid nationalists, specially in | |
| America, but it won't cost HRC the election. If Scrooge Mc. | |
| Trump wasn't such a bizarre character, they still could have | |
| made an impact, but that is speculative. | |
| That's why it is so absurd, that the HRC-campaign is making that | |
| completely ridiculous claim that wikileaks was controlled by | |
| Russia. Maybe they are afraid of what is still to be revealed, | |
| maybe they continue their revenge against that organization, | |
| that reveals the total incompetence of the American | |
| administrations and services depending Internet security. | |
| Whatever the reason may be, the attempt to wipe all that is | |
| publicized off the table by describing it as Russian propaganda | |
| in favour of Trump is pathetic. But it is a signature-piece of | |
| "Correct The Record", Clinton's organization for | |
| social-media-propaganda, that has been seeking ways to diminish | |
| the credibility of persons and organizations that reveal | |
| inappropriate behavior by Clinton and her friends for years. | |
| Let's face the facts: the co-founder and spokesman of wikileaks | |
| is Julian Assange. He resides in the embassy of Ecuador in | |
| London, threatened to be executed by the USA if extradited to | |
| them, and has no connection to Russia whatsoever. The | |
| wikileaks-servers are mirrored all over the world, to make sure | |
| that a crackdown on them by a government of a single country | |
| that has a bad conscience doesn't bring them down. They do that | |
| on purpose, they have already experienced such incidents. All of | |
| that is commonly known and can be found on their website as well | |
| as on the Wikipedia-page about wikileaks: | |
| [quote="Wikipedia"]Until August 2010, WikiLeaks was hosted by | |
| PRQ, a Sweden-based company providing "highly secure, | |
| no-questions-asked hosting services". PRQ is said to have | |
| "almost no information about its clientele and maintains few if | |
| any of its own logs". Currently, WikiLeaks is hosted mainly by | |
| the Swedish internet service provider Bahnhof in the Pionen | |
| facility, a former nuclear bunker in Sweden. Other servers are | |
| spread around the world with the main server located in Sweden. | |
| Julian Assange has said that the servers are located in Sweden | |
| (and the other countries) "specifically because those nations | |
| offer legal protection to the disclosures made on the site". He | |
| talks about the Swedish constitution, which gives the | |
| information providers total legal protection. It is forbidden | |
| according to Swedish law for any administrative authority to | |
| make inquiries about the sources of any type of newspaper. These | |
| laws, and the hosting by PRQ, make it difficult for any | |
| authorities to eliminate WikiLeaks; they place an onus of proof | |
| upon any complainant whose suit would circumscribe WikiLeaks' | |
| liberty, e.g. its rights to exercise free speech online. | |
| Furthermore, "WikiLeaks maintains its own servers at undisclosed | |
| locations, keeps no logs and uses military-grade encryption to | |
| protect sources and other confidential information." Such | |
| arrangements have been called "bulletproof hosting". | |
| In August 2010, the Swedish Pirate Party announced it would be | |
| hosting, managing, and maintaining many of WikiLeaks' new | |
| servers without charge.[/quote] | |
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks | |
| The only "argument" for the accusation is the fact, that Edward | |
| Snowden was forced to seek asylum in Russia, because Barack | |
| Obama and Hillary Clinton threaten his life for being so brave | |
| to make public the crimes of their administration against the | |
| civil rights of citizens not only of America, but the whole | |
| world. But Snowden is still only an informant to wikileaks. | |
| Sincerely the most prominent and for sure one of the most | |
| important, but still nothing more. Never ever has he been a part | |
| of their administration, organization or staff. To build a claim | |
| like the one wikileaks was controlled by Russia, only on the | |
| fact that Snowden is hiding there, is bizarre. | |
| This strategy makes Mrs Clinton more unfit to be president every | |
| time she uses it. Still less unfit then trump, but unfit anyhow. | |
| Americans should go for Johnson, he is in contrary to Trump and | |
| Clinton a decent, honest guy. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 4159-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The Clintons and Scientology | |
| By: marenostrum Date: October 15, 2016, 5:09 am | |
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| THIS IS THE VIDEO HILARY CLINTORIS DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SEE! | |
| PLS SHARE TO SHOOT DOWN THAT ILLUMINATI PARASITE PUPPET! | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no | |
| #Post#: 4164-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The Clintons and Scientology | |
| By: hellboy Date: October 15, 2016, 4:36 pm | |
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| "Illuminati"? Really? Such conspiracy theory bullshit is the | |
| reason why people who criticize HRC are not taken serious. It's | |
| far too easy to point to such brainless fairy tales and put all | |
| other accusations into the same bucket. It works the same way | |
| for her like with Trump: if he wasn't so ridiculous, aggravating | |
| and as we now know even criminal, Clinton wouldn't stand a | |
| chance. Every other candidate would have beaten her easily. | |
| Trump doesn't criticize her for what is really at hand, he | |
| invents totally absurd conspiracy theories, talks about Bill or | |
| her health. So if he mentions something serious, it is hardly | |
| heard in his flood of stupidities. And people who attempt to | |
| criticize her mentioning "illuminati" do her the same favour. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
| #Post#: 4165-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: The Clintons and Scientology | |
| By: hellboy Date: October 25, 2016, 5:46 am | |
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| HRC has now changed the narrative. Now she and her surrogates | |
| claim, that Russia is using wikileaks to publish what their | |
| hackers have hacked. The way they say it is: "the hack has | |
| Russian fingerprints all over it." That is typical political | |
| propaganda. It means that there is no proove whatsoever, | |
| otherwise it would be presented. | |
| They say that most American secret services are sure, that | |
| Russian services have hacked the DNC and other American | |
| organizations. That may be true, and makes sense for secret | |
| services. But a member of Clinton's campaign-staff? Not so much. | |
| The only reason they can present is still "Russia wants Trump as | |
| president", and that is no reason for such things happening. It | |
| seems like Clinton and her team want people to disrespect them | |
| as much as Trump. | |
| Wikileaks needs no Russian help to hack someone. Russia even | |
| prosecutes their only Russian-born founding member, so they | |
| aren't friends at all. A regime that oppresses democracy and | |
| information like the Russian one is never too fond of | |
| whistleblowers. They also are braggarts, so if they had hacked a | |
| Clinton-staffer, they would also brag about that. | |
| The leaks still haven't discovered anything shocking or | |
| unexpected. So the claim that "it's all Russia!" isn't only | |
| pathetic, it's unnecessary. The only thing the Clinton-camp is | |
| showing by keeping it up, is a bad conscience. | |
| ahoy | |
| hellboy | |
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