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| ESMS Hub | |
| By: Switzerdan Date: August 4, 2023, 7:07 am | |
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| Hello, | |
| I hope this is the right place to post this. We're actually NOT | |
| running a game. Feel free to move as appropriate. | |
| My name is Dan Sellers. I�m writing on behalf of myself and two | |
| gaming friends � Steve Talbot and Garysean Wilson. | |
| For those of you that don�t know us, let me make some brief | |
| introductions. | |
| I�m 58 years old. Originally from the USA, I have been living in | |
| Switzerland for over 20 years. I have been playing various | |
| versions of United for almost 40 years and I�ve been playing | |
| ESMS for about 7 years. I�m a life-long gamer but these football | |
| simulation games are absolutely among my favorites. | |
| Steve Talbot is 43 and comes from England. He�s played in | |
| various ESMS leagues such as FFO, JAFL, SSL, AND UCFL for more | |
| than 20 years. | |
| Garysean is 37 and comes from Scotland. He�s been playing ESMS | |
| games for more than 20 years, having started when he was just | |
| 13. | |
| For those of you who are wondering why we are including both | |
| types of leagues is that, at their heart, they are both | |
| mathematical games revolving around football. (I personally have | |
| played other such games that used ice hockey or basketball for | |
| their sport but our main focus here is football.) Both games | |
| involve the same basic functions. Building a team, submitting | |
| orders/team sheets, and having the matches adjudicated by a GM. | |
| The details in each game are quite different, but they generally | |
| appeal to the same kinds of gamers/football fans. | |
| Lately, Steve, GS and I have been discussing is that there is no | |
| hub for the community. If I am not mistaken, there was some sort | |
| of central repository for ESMS information in the past but it is | |
| no longer active. I am not sure if there ever has been such an | |
| entity for United. | |
| The reality is that both games are past their heydays. Modern | |
| computer gaming has put a dent in the number of people who play | |
| these long-running sports games. Although many of your leagues | |
| have existed for 20 years or more, it seems to us they are | |
| existing in kind of an isolation. Sure, one can do a google | |
| search and find various ESMS and United leagues but there is no | |
| central hub for a potential manager to find information. It can | |
| be difficult to find new and replacement managers, even more so | |
| with GMs. | |
| Our idea is to create an open forum for all GMs, players, and | |
| potential players. A place where one can find information about | |
| different ESMS and United leagues with just a few clicks. | |
| We envision having introductory articles about both games and | |
| then a combined forum, an ESMS forum and a United forum � both | |
| with sub-forums about each individual game. These forums would | |
| be places where GMS and players can post links to their games, | |
| post openings or discuss the games in general or in detail � ask | |
| about tactics, strategies, game development, run new ideas by a | |
| wide spectrum of players and GMs, etc. Basically, anything that | |
| has to do with ESMS or United could potentially be found in one | |
| place. These forums can be a single one-stop place to find | |
| information about these great games. | |
| What we do not want this to turn into is some kind of | |
| competitive forum where trash-talking of other leagues and ideas | |
| is allowed. We don�t want any �My league is better than your | |
| league� kind of discussions. Disagreements and constructive | |
| debate about those disagreements will be encouraged. Trolling | |
| and insulting remarks will not be tolerated. | |
| We have major respect for every single GM who devotes his time | |
| to running a league and each one of you is a hero to our part of | |
| the gaming world. But the truth is that our community is | |
| constantly shrinking. Perhaps we can�t do anything about that. | |
| But, perhaps we can. We think that coming together and working | |
| as one community is an obvious place to start. | |
| A second goal of this hub is to provide a resource section. Game | |
| engines and different apps to control different aspects of the | |
| game (teamsheet makers and checkers, etc.) as well as their | |
| codes. | |
| Since this is an open-source game originally, we would like to | |
| obtain as many unique copies of the various codes as possible. | |
| In case you are having questions about costs, let me assure you | |
| that you needn�t worry. As web-hosting is relatively cheap, we | |
| plan to make this forum free to users as the minimal costs | |
| associated with it can be taken care of. Donations will always | |
| be welcome but will be on a strictly voluntary basis. | |
| The forum will be overseen by a group of administrators | |
| (initially composed of me, Steve, and GS) with none having more | |
| control than the other. We envision a community of equals, not | |
| some kind of dictatorship with its inherent biases. | |
| I would be happy if the chief admin could send me a PM with some | |
| feedback on this post. | |
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