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Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: crazydoug Date: October 17, 2021, 7:11 am
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I've owned this B39 Empire solenoid engine for five years now,
and have not found evidence of any others existing. It is also
not in Don Stilson's book. I would still like to have more
information on this seemingly rare model.
https://youtu.be/WVQknGZaRQY
#Post#: 45909--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: classixs Date: October 17, 2021, 9:10 am
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I have a relatively respectable ephemera collection on the
Empire brand, and haven�t after quite a bit of time spent today,
been able to find this B39 mentioned anywhere.
Personally i do belive that you�re spot on, and this worm-gear
eqipped model might well be a prototype...or at the very least a
low productionnumber retailer only piece.
Thanks for sharing this rarity Doug, very interesting!!!
#Post#: 46272--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: txlabman Date: November 1, 2021, 9:04 am
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I have never seen another one.
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Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: RichSteamTx Date: December 1, 2023, 7:39 am
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For the record, I am pining over your B-39 @[font=Verdana,
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]crazydoug[/font], almost as much as
the Unicorn D-Cell B-44 LOL
Something that I recently realized, there are at least 3
variations of bases, though it seems they are all are stamped
"E1" at the bottom.
[list type=decimal]
[li]I thought the 75 watts was going to be the B39, but there is
a eBay B-33 listed as 75 and not 50 Watts.[/li]
[li]There seems to be differences in the base. Both the ones I
have are pressed with two holes for the power switch and cycle's
power off the transformer. The eBay one has one hole for the
power switch and cycle's the 24v power from the center conductor
for the magnetic coils.[/li]
[li]One of my B-33's has a "notch" in the base where the paddle
mounts protrude through the base. My other one and the eBay one
doesn't have this notch. I can tell you, not having that
"notch" makes it a PITA to get the upper base off![/li]
[/list]
I am wondering [member=20]crazydoug[/member] what does the
bottom of your B-39 (and B-33) look like? Perhaps what I have
spied is a progress of B-33. I am leaning towards that the one
on eBay right now (one hole for the power switch) would be a
early one. Then mine with no notch for the paddle but two power
switch holes is next, then lastly the one with two holes/with
notch is a later one.
Likely a worthless endeavor what I am bringing up but sometimes
(well most times) my curiosity gets the best of me!
#Post#: 59027--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: Stoker Date: December 1, 2023, 1:35 pm
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First one I've ever seen Doug.
Interesting that they simply moved the flywheel to the outside
of the bearing post in order to make room for the worm gear
drive assembly.
#Post#: 59040--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: txlabman Date: December 3, 2023, 2:18 pm
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I have never seen another one Doug.
#Post#: 59285--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: RichSteamTx Date: December 18, 2023, 12:47 pm
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Its possible there is one more in the world.
I been chatting with [member=871]MarcelF[/member] and he
mentioned he had a B-39 about 15 years ago. Seems he didn't
hold on to it for very long as he didn't like it much. Sadly he
doesn't remember who ended up with it and I suppose it is
possible it is the same one that [member=20]crazydoug[/member]
has... but I am hoping not as that opens the door for me to
finding it someday for my Empire collection LOL
#Post#: 68131--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: RichSteamTx Date: January 6, 2025, 11:32 am
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A few days ago I came across a ad that I believe is this engine
running a display that is like the B-40 display for the B-38.
Though it doesn't have the middle pulley. It seems to have a
drive shaft from the engine to the display (not a belt). I can
also see what might be the added brace for the gear. Hard to
tell really with the image. But it is clearly a different setup
from the B-39.
Though if I am right, how would that drive shaft run the platter
of the display? Would the Display have a different model
number? hmmm.
[attach=1]
[attach=3]
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Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: Nick Date: January 6, 2025, 11:38 am
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Without searching, have you got this one? I don�t know which
engine it is� (file says 1930) (still looking for the workshop
ad�)
[attachimg=1]
#Post#: 68136--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does anyone know of the existence of another Empire B-39?
By: RichSteamTx Date: January 6, 2025, 11:47 am
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I have seen that image before but for whatever reason I didn't
save it. I do have all of those engines, the bottom in is the
"normal" B-33 that you see for sale on eBay from time to time.
The B-33 is like the other engines, belt driven with a pulley
(without direct drive gear).
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