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[IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: Sparta Date: August 29, 2015, 4:09 pm
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Realizing That all men are created equal.
Further Realizing That all men are have a set of natural rights
Acknowledging that the natural rights envisioned by Jefferson
and Locke leave out several rights
Congress Hereby Mandates that all states grant these basic
human rights to all citizen of that state and that the NCSA give
it to all areas of non states. Rights can only be usurped, e.g.
by imprisonment for a crime, in cases where an individual has
violated the rights of others and especially in cases where
someone is convicted of war crimes by the government.
Article I
All human beings are born and remain free and equal in dignity
and rights and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed
with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in
a
spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in
this law
without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex,
language, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity,
political or other opinion, national or social origin, property,
birth or other status.
Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the
political,
jurisdictional or international status of the country or
territory to which a person
belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or
under any other
limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
(this shall not be interpreted as to inhibit the right of women
to have abortions)
Article 4
No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the
slave trade shall be
prohibited in all their forms.
Article 5
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or
degrading treatment
or punishment.
Article 6
Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person
before the law.
Article 7
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any
discrimination to equal
protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection
against any
discrimination in violation of this Law and against any
incitement to such
discrimination.
Article 8
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent
national courts
for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the
constitution or by law.
Article 9
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or
exile.
Article 10
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public
hearing by an independent
and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and
obligations and of any
criminal charge against him.
Article 11
1. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be
presumed
innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial
at which he
has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.
2. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account
of any act or
omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under
national or
international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall
a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at
the time the penal
offence was committed.
Article 12
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his
privacy, family, home
or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honor and reputation.
Everyone has
the right to the protection of the law against such interference
or attacks.
Article 13
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence
within the
borders of each State.
2. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his
own, and to
return to his State.
Article 14
1. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other states
asylum from
persecution.
2. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions
genuinely
arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the
purposes and
principles of the NCSA.
Article 15
1. Everyone has the right to a nationality.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor
denied the right to
change his nationality.
Article 16
1. Citizens of full age, without any limitation due to race,
nationality, religion, or sexual orientation, have the right to
marry and to found a family. They are entitled
to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its
dissolution.
2. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full
consent of the
intending spouses.
3. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of
society and is
entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 17
1. Everyone has the right to own personal property alone as well
as in association with
others.
2. Personal property includes "items intended for personal use."
(clothes, homes, vehicles, money, etc...)
3. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Article 18
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and
religion; this right
includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom,
either alone or in
community with others and in public or private, to manifest his
religion or belief in
teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression;
this right includes
freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek,
receive and impart
information and ideas through any media and regardless of
frontiers.
Article 20
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and
association.
2. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 21
1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his
country,
directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in
his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of
government;
this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections
which shall
be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret
vote or by
equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 22
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social
security and is entitled
to realization, through national effort and international
co-operation and in
accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of
the economic,
social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the
free development
of his personality.
Article 23
1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment,
to just and
favourable conditions of work and to protection against
unemployment.
2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal
pay for equal
work.
3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable
remuneration
ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human
dignity,
and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social
protection.
4. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for
the protection of
his interests.
Article 24
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable
limitation of
working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
Article 25
1. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for
the health and
well-being of himself and of his family, including food,
clothing, housing
and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to
security
in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood,
old age or
other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
2. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and
assistance. All
children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the
same social
protection.
Article 26
1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free,
at least in the
elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be
compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made
generally available and higher education shall be equally
accessible to all
on the basis of merit.
2. Education shall be directed to the full development of the
human
personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights
and
fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance
and
friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups.
3. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education
that shall be
given to their children.
Article 27
1. Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural
life of the
community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific
advancement and
its benefits. 2. Everyone has the right to the protection of the
moral and material interests
resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production
of which he is the
author.
Article 28
Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in
which the rights and
freedoms set forth in this Law can be fully realized.
Article 29
1. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free
and full
development of his personality is possible.
2. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be
subject only
to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the
purpose of
securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms
of others
and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order
and the
general welfare in a democratic society.
3. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised
contrary to the
purposes and principles of the NCSA.
Article 30
Nothing in this Bill may be interpreted as implying for any
State, group or
person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act
aimed at the
destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
Article 31
1. All human beings are considered to have the rights of free
speech, press, religion.
2. All humans also have the right to assemble peacefully as well
as petition the government.
~Written by James Espo
#Post#: 8572--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: Fenson Date: August 29, 2015, 7:32 pm
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I second.
#Post#: 8574--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: Louisianne Date: August 29, 2015, 7:47 pm
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"Louisianne operates on the assumption that the average citizen
is capable of making their own decisions, whether they be
life-altering or not. The articles you have presented reinforce
our stance.
We overwhelmingly support this bill."
#Post#: 8575--------------------------------------------------
Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: Heavenly Paradise Date: August 29, 2015, 7:53 pm
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"Gondor feels that while this bill sets a standard of equality
for all human beings, it is not the duty of the National
government to dictate what a state can and cannot do when
regarding social laws. This is legislating morality and the
government needs to stay out of a state's private business.
Therefore, I oppose this bill."
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Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: West Phoenicia Date: August 29, 2015, 7:59 pm
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West Phoenicia would hope that Congress can at least discuss a
bill for once. There is alot to look at. And we need to look
over each section to see if this is worth keeping or amending.
A bill of rights would help boost up what is lacking in the
Constitution.
While we do not want to infringe on state rights a Bill of
Rights is there to help. We need to find a common ground.
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Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: hoffmad08 Date: August 29, 2015, 8:05 pm
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Rep. Oskar von Fallersleben: "While the benevolent intent behind
this bill is clear, wholesale passage of this so-called 'Bill of
Rights' would be an egregious overreach of confederal power,
with the effect of forced homogenization of the NCSA's
constituent states. As Frijstaat's representative, I would like
to offer some initial thoughts on the proposed legislation,
whereby the errors of its creation may become evident to all.
[quote]Article 16
1. Citizens of full age, without any limitation due to race,
nationality, religion, or sexual orientation, have the right to
marry and to found a family. They are entitled
to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its
dissolution.
2. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full
consent of the
intending spouses.
3. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of
society and is
entitled to protection by society and the State.[/quote]
Art. 16, sec. 3 presupposes that there is but one single
idealized society in which the family is at the center. Letting
aside the problem of defining what it means to be a family, this
bill has the audacity to presuppose that it is the confederal
government's responsibility to dictate social norms and policies
thereto pertaining.
[quote]Article 21
1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his
country,
directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in
his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of
government;
this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections
which shall
be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret
vote or by
equivalent free voting procedures.[/quote]
While the people of Frijstaat whole-heartedly support this on a
state-level, the confederal government has no right to dictate
the form of a member state's government. While Frijstaaters
have advocated for direct, limited rule since our founding, we
would never be so bold as to believe that we have any right to
force our beliefs and convictions on those who have chosen a
different path. While the confederal government may dictate
that's its own form be democratic, it has no right to require
that constituent states give up their own monarchies,
oligarchies, collectives, etc. It would be equally absurd for
the confederal government to announce that all states must
henceforth institute hereditary monarchies.
[quote]Article 22
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social
security and is entitled
to realization, through national effort and international
co-operation and in
accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of
the economic,
social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the
free development
of his personality.[/quote]
The concept of 'social security' is highly ambiguous here,
although I believe it to refer to state-funded welfare schemes.
Frijstaat has rejected the socialist model and has functioned
well without the kleptocracy required to 'fund' such programs.
States ought to have the right to address social policy as they
see fit, without mandates from busy-bodies at the capitol.
[quote]Article 23
1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment,
to just and
favourable conditions of work and to protection against
unemployment.
2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal
pay for equal
work.
3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable
remuneration
ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human
dignity,
and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social
protection.
4. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for
the protection of
his interests[/quote]
While the right to work and the right to the fruits of one's
labor are viewed as sacred and inalienable in Frijstaat,
requiring states to institute unemployment programs is yet
another attkmpt to micromanage social policy in each state. The
NCSA was founded to protect the rights of states to work
together peacefully, but also to allow them to follow their own
paths. This is just one more example of the confederal
government overreaching and attempting to control that to which
it has no rightful claim.
[quote]Article 24
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable
limitation of
working hours and periodic holidays with pay. [/quote]
This is patently absurd. I doubt this is even necessary, but on
principle alone, this is overreach. Again, social engineering
from above via forced homogenization.
[quote]Article 25
1. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for
the health and
well-being of himself and of his family, including food,
clothing, housing
and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to
security
in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood,
old age or
other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
2. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and
assistance. All
children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the
same social
protection.[/quote]
Again, this presupposes the right of the confederal government
to dictate who social policy is managed within the confines of
individual, constituent states. While perhaps not the intended
reading, this article could pave the way for forcing states to
institute massive, unsustainable, sprawling welfare programs,
even if they are antithetical to very core of a state's national
identity.
[quote]Article 26
1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free,
at least in the
elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be
compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made
generally available and higher education shall be equally
accessible to all
on the basis of merit.
2. Education shall be directed to the full development of the
human
personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights
and
fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance
and
friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups.
3. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education
that shall be
given to their children.[/quote]
Again, while the thought behind this is clearly virtuous, the
confederal government has absolutely no right to dictate to
states the manner in which they educate their citizens.
Frijstaat has neither free nor compulsory education, and has yet
to collapse beneath uneducated masses. Private schools abound,
and the number of schools drives the price downwards.
Frijstaaters are well-educated and well-read without government
interference. This article would strip states like Frijstaat of
their right to manage their own educational systems as they see
fit.
[quote]Article 31
1. All human beings are considered to have the rights of free
speech, press, religion.
2. All humans also have the right to assemble peacefully as well
as petition the government.[/quote]
This is redundant, having already been explicitly stated in
previous articles."
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Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: Louisianne Date: August 29, 2015, 8:09 pm
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"We are willing to discuss the possibility of changes throughout
the bill, particularly to Articles 3, 15 (section 2), 16
(section 2), 21 (sections 1 and 2), and 23.
Although we support this bill, Louisianne would like to see a
greater effort to allow states to determine their own actions,
especially when it comes to social and moral issues."
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Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: Wellsian Empire Date: August 29, 2015, 9:00 pm
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Which Right is the most important? What if one right contradicts
another. Is a state to deal with it or is the state required to
bring it up to the national government? What if a society denies
the family? Is it required to change because of what one state
thinks is right? I feel that this "Bill of Rights" is an attempt
by one state to push its morals upon another.
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Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: hoffmad08 Date: August 29, 2015, 9:03 pm
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Agreed. Instead of enumerating the rights that every state must
recognize, it might be best to enumerate those over which the
confederal government has no authority.
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Re: [IC BIll] Bill of Rights
By: West Phoenicia Date: August 29, 2015, 9:14 pm
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"There still needs to be a standard that states can come
together to agree upon. We do not want to be like a certain
country that has forced all states to accept a minority
lifestyle choice. But we do need a set standard that all states
can agree upon.
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