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| Full potential solar | |
| By: Michael Anthony Date: July 29, 2015, 7:59 am | |
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| I have often wondered if there isnt a better way to draw power | |
| from solar panels. There is a new company in Georgia, usa , that | |
| is incorporating mppt right into the panel itself. They claim | |
| that even if they have partial shading , they can still get a | |
| significant amount of energy from the panel. They also claim | |
| they can run a three phase electric motor directly from the | |
| panel! Well what if we take this a step further, and mount the | |
| panels on a rotating base of a large diameter and draw the power | |
| off the center shaft? | |
| #Post#: 6049-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: sut Date: August 3, 2015, 7:28 am | |
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| As far as I know there is only 2 ways to wire them series or | |
| parallel series increases volts parallel increases amps | |
| #Post#: 6050-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: Michael Anthony Date: August 3, 2015, 8:43 am | |
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| Hi Sut: I was not talking about getting more power out versus | |
| the sun, but by means of mechanical advantage. Think of mounting | |
| the solar panels on a large merry-go-round, the panels on the | |
| outer perimeter would drive a/c motors attached to gear | |
| reducers. the whole inner circle would have panels that would | |
| charge batteries. And by using a low speed low torque alternator | |
| on the center shaft, one could take advantage of the huge | |
| mechanical leverage from the middle. | |
| #Post#: 6051-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: Michael Anthony Date: August 3, 2015, 9:30 am | |
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| I have drawn a quick sketch of the device | |
| #Post#: 6052-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: sut Date: August 4, 2015, 7:42 am | |
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| Ah! now I understand but wouldn't the power being used to turn | |
| the unit be more than you could produce with the alt ? | |
| #Post#: 6053-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: ethan Date: August 5, 2015, 8:18 am | |
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| Wouldnt it take less power to aim a mirror? | |
| #Post#: 6054-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: Michael Anthony Date: August 6, 2015, 12:58 pm | |
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| HI SUT: Lets say we have a 22 ft. diameter platform, Ihave at my | |
| disposal 2,640 watts , there are 746 watts per horse power. So I | |
| have 3.5 HP to turn the platform. My target rpm is 60. So if I | |
| use a .75 HP motor ( 3 phase AC) with a gear motor attached to | |
| each motor. four equal places around the platform. My AC motors | |
| turn at 1750 rpm reducing that to 60 rpm through the gear | |
| reducer gives me29:1 ratio. At the center shaft I will have a | |
| 12" dia. sprocket, and on thr alternator a 1.5" dia. sprocket. | |
| so my mechanical advantage from outer edge of platform to the | |
| 12" sprocket is 10 to 1. so if I can incorporate the full 3.5 HP | |
| at the outer edge, I will get 35 HP in the center. How many KW | |
| can I generate with 35 HP after mechanical losses? More than my | |
| initial input of 2640? | |
| #Post#: 6055-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: ethan Date: August 6, 2015, 1:07 pm | |
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| I dont think youll gain anything by this setup. If i see the | |
| drawing correctly , you have solar panels around in a circle, | |
| on a turntable, that rotates with the sun? Some are facing the | |
| other way? Why not face them all the same direction? Then have a | |
| small tracker on each mount? | |
| The mirrors would reflect the sun on the panels. | |
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| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: Michael Anthony Date: August 6, 2015, 1:08 pm | |
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| HI Ethan: I dont quite follow about the mirror, where do I put | |
| the mirror? | |
| #Post#: 6057-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Full potential solar | |
| By: Michael Anthony Date: August 6, 2015, 1:15 pm | |
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| The sun rotates the platform! Ethan If you have an 11Foot lever | |
| in your hands and your fulcrum is 1 foot in from the end, how | |
| much weight could you lift? At least a 1000 lbs right? Now | |
| instead of lifting suppose you push on the lever and your 1000 | |
| lb. weight was on wheels? | |
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