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| Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: laterunner Date: January 19, 2013, 12:12 pm | |
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| http://www.fsponline-recommends.co.uk/page.aspx?u=eobvid2&tc=LMYKNC03&Promotion… | |
| 1. Superstition? | |
| 2. Warning? | |
| 3. Conspiracy? | |
| 4. Wisdom? | |
| 5. Salesmanship? | |
| #Post#: 3380-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: George Date: January 19, 2013, 2:33 pm | |
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| It is 4 of 5 using 1,3,and ending with 2 | |
| #Post#: 3381-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: Kerry Date: January 19, 2013, 4:27 pm | |
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| I've wondered for years how the UK has kept its head above water | |
| with its staggering debt. I think the USA is in bad shape, | |
| perhaps also on a crash course; but the Europeans are closer to | |
| crashing, and the UK is in such debt, I don't see how they can | |
| pull themselves out. The numbers say as much. | |
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| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: Runner Date: January 19, 2013, 8:50 pm | |
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| Neil, I first thought this was interesting...I had a few tries | |
| at it. I was on there for about 40 mins..it took me a while | |
| until the penny dropped , that the real push here is not to | |
| "help" but to get us to buy the magazine! Dah, it took me a | |
| while. | |
| I am sure that much that he says is true...probably most of it. | |
| But , bottom line, if God doesn't keep us through those rough | |
| days ahead then we are of all men most miserable. Only Him. | |
| He says that we can "do things" to head off personal crisis, I | |
| doubt it myself. So many people have come up with so many "good | |
| ideas and plans"...none of which include The Secret Place of The | |
| Most High. ;) | |
| God Grace be upon us all! ✟ | |
| #Post#: 3385-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: laterunner Date: January 20, 2013, 4:57 am | |
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| Agreed sell , sell sell. | |
| But is the truth there? | |
| or what?? | |
| #Post#: 3387-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: Kerry Date: January 20, 2013, 6:39 am | |
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| The truth seems to be that the UK government debt -- just the | |
| debt of the government -- is fast approaching the gross national | |
| product. It's at about 85% in 2011 and still rising. | |
| http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt-to-gdp | |
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| http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-kingdom-government-debt-to-gdp.pn… | |
| Right now interest are rather low, relatively speaking; but once | |
| people start wondering, they no longer want to lend at low | |
| interest rates. They want higher rates. | |
| The BBC said (November 2011) total debt in the UK was about | |
| 500% of GNP. | |
| http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15820601 | |
| According to the consulting firm, by the end of March this year, | |
| the aggregate indebtedness of the UK - that's the sum of | |
| household debts, company debts, government debts and bank debts | |
| - had risen to 492% of GDP, or almost five times the value of | |
| everything we produce in a single year. | |
| If interest rates go up, just paying the interest would be a | |
| crushing blow. Just imagine if interest rates were at 20%. | |
| It would take every penny earned in the UK to pay the interest | |
| on the debt, leaving nothing to spend on anything else. Our | |
| governments have intervened in the markets, acting to keep | |
| interest rates low while they continued to rack up debt; but can | |
| they do it forever? | |
| Speaking of the BBC, I heard a story this morning about British | |
| exports to non-European markets. The people talking seemed | |
| confident this was going to continue. It won't. It can't. | |
| As countries like China and India have increases in their | |
| standard of living, they will consume more and more energy. The | |
| price of oil has to go up. When the price of oil goes up, the | |
| cost of everything that gets shipped goes up. It won't make | |
| sense to build stuff in one country and send them half way round | |
| the globe. It will be cheaper to build stuff where people are | |
| going to buy it. That also goes for food. | |
| It's a global crisis waiting to happen. | |
| #Post#: 3390-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: Kerry Date: January 20, 2013, 9:52 am | |
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| ^ I imagine too that the laws on euthanasia will change in the | |
| UK. Think of how much money the government would save on | |
| pensions and health care. Money may put the pressure on | |
| Parliament to make it legal. From the Guardian | |
| http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/sep/19/health.healthandwellbeing1,<br | |
| />2004: | |
| 'What this says to me is that we know these practices are going | |
| on, but they are completely unregulated. We don't know how many | |
| people are volunteers or non-volunteers, and maybe because of | |
| that the law ought to be changed so that people can give | |
| voluntary consent, which will give them more protection.' | |
| An ageing population has meant that an increasing number of | |
| doctors are taking private decisions to aid the early demise of | |
| terminally ill patients, usually by increasing drug doses. | |
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| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: Runner Date: January 20, 2013, 11:36 am | |
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| Good thread. Fasten your seat belts... Any day now. | |
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| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: James Date: January 21, 2013, 3:38 am | |
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| I just better not get sick then, I don't want some zealous | |
| doctor deciding it is time I check out just because I have a | |
| cold at my age and they can not afford the menthol tissues. | |
| James | |
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| Re: Earthly or otherwise.?? | |
| By: Kerry Date: January 21, 2013, 5:48 am | |
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| [quote author=James link=topic=345.msg3404#msg3404 | |
| date=1358761133] | |
| I just better not get sick then, I don't want some zealous | |
| doctor deciding it is time I check out just because I have a | |
| cold at my age and they can not afford the menthol tissues. | |
| James | |
| [/quote]Think of all the CA$H they could save by saying your | |
| cold was not worth spending money on and that you would be | |
| better off dead. | |
| I was reading the new the other day and was flabbergasted that | |
| two twins in Belgium decided they'd rather be dead than be | |
| blind. | |
| http://www.euronews.com/2013/01/16/belgian-doctors-euthanaise-deaf-and-blind-tw… | |
| /> | |
| I wonder if the next step will be to put pressure on old people | |
| not be a burden on society? Will governments start advising | |
| old people to choose suicide over medical treatment? | |
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