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| #Post#: 34390-------------------------------------------------- | |
| ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Justaname Date: July 6, 2023, 8:08 am | |
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| I found these to be wise words for me, in todays world. | |
| QUOTE - | |
| � Neither know we what to do; but our eyes are, upon thee (2 | |
| Chron. 20:12). | |
| � A life was lost in Israel because a pair of human hands were | |
| laid unbidden upon the ark of God. | |
| They were placed upon it with the best intent, to steady it when | |
| trembling and shaking as the oxen drew it along the rough way; | |
| but they touched God's work presumptuously, and they fell | |
| paralyzed and lifeless. Much of the life of faith consists in | |
| letting things alone. | |
| If we wholly trust an interest to God, we must keep our hands | |
| off it; and He will guard it for us better than we can help Him. | |
| "Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself | |
| because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who | |
| bringeth wicked devices to pass." | |
| Things may seem to be going all wrong, but He knows as well as | |
| we; and He will arise in the right moment if we are really | |
| trusting Him so fully as to let Him work in His own way and | |
| time. There is nothing so masterly as inactivity in some things, | |
| and there is nothing so hurtful as restless working, for God has | |
| undertaken to work His own sovereign will.� | |
| --A. B. Simpson- - | |
| . | |
| #Post#: 34393-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Kerry Date: July 7, 2023, 5:53 am | |
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| [quote author=Helen link=topic=1577.msg34390#msg34390 | |
| date=1688648915] | |
| I found these to be wise words for me, in todays world. | |
| QUOTE - | |
| � Neither know we what to do; but our eyes are, upon thee (2 | |
| Chron. 20:12). | |
| [/quote]I looked this up, Helen, since I wanted to know more | |
| about it. Very interesting. Judah was being attacked by Moab | |
| and Ammon after God had forbidden Israel to attack them when | |
| they came out of Egypt. How confusing this had to be. Why had | |
| God told them not to take any land from those tribes only to | |
| have trouble with them later? I would have been confused about | |
| it. No wonder they were. | |
| 13 And all Judah stood before the Lord, with their little ones, | |
| their wives, and their children. | |
| 14 Then upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, | |
| the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of | |
| Asaph, came the Spirit of the Lord in the midst of the | |
| congregation; | |
| 15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of | |
| Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the Lord unto | |
| you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great | |
| multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's. | |
| The world seems to be getting more chaotic today. Sometimes I | |
| wonder if I think that because I'm getting old and wonder if I'm | |
| imagining things. Our politicians seem to be going crazy. Some | |
| religious leaders seem to be. What lies ahead? I tell | |
| myself God knows what He's doing. He's still on His Throne; and | |
| while I may not be able to make sense of things I read in the | |
| news, there's no need to think I have to go to battle myself. | |
| Everything is working out according to God's plan even if I | |
| don't understand all the details. | |
| The point may be very important too. I see some Christians who | |
| seem gripped by fear; and they do things I find dubious as they | |
| are trying to "battle" on their own. Is this a trick of Satan | |
| tempting Christians to get overwhelmed by fear and take action | |
| when no action is needed -- action which might be wrong? I | |
| have learned that when I start to fear something, I can often | |
| make the situation worse by acting on that fear. It's better to | |
| stay calm. | |
| This seems very right to me: | |
| 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but | |
| of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. | |
| #Post#: 34399-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Justaname Date: July 7, 2023, 6:20 pm | |
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| [quote author=Kerry link=topic=1577.msg34393#msg34393 | |
| date=1688727213] | |
| I looked this up, Helen, since I wanted to know more about it. | |
| Very interesting. Judah was being attacked by Moab and Ammon | |
| after God had forbidden Israel to attack them when they came out | |
| of Egypt. How confusing this had to be. Why had God told them | |
| not to take any land from those tribes only to have trouble with | |
| them later? I would have been confused about it. No wonder | |
| they were. | |
| 13 And all Judah stood before the Lord, with their little ones, | |
| their wives, and their children. | |
| 14 Then upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, | |
| the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of | |
| Asaph, came the Spirit of the Lord in the midst of the | |
| congregation; | |
| 15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of | |
| Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the Lord unto | |
| you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great | |
| multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's. | |
| The world seems to be getting more chaotic today. Sometimes I | |
| wonder if I think that because I'm getting old and wonder if I'm | |
| imagining things. Our politicians seem to be going crazy. Some | |
| religious leaders seem to be. What lies ahead? I tell | |
| myself God knows what He's doing. He's still on His Throne; and | |
| while I may not be able to make sense of things I read in the | |
| news, there's no need to think I have to go to battle myself. | |
| Everything is working out according to God's plan even if I | |
| don't understand all the details. | |
| The point may be very important too. I see some Christians who | |
| seem gripped by fear; and they do things I find dubious as they | |
| are trying to "battle" on their own. Is this a trick of Satan | |
| tempting Christians to get overwhelmed by fear and take action | |
| when no action is needed -- action which might be wrong? I | |
| have learned that when I start to fear something, I can often | |
| make the situation worse by acting on that fear. It's better to | |
| stay calm. | |
| This seems very right to me: | |
| 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but | |
| of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. | |
| [/quote] | |
| I guess that just shows us how important listening to God for | |
| direction really is. | |
| One time He says �attack, drive them out� another time it�s � | |
| leave them alone �. | |
| Most times we are told that David �Enquired of the Lord �� | |
| before battles�.. | |
| � One size doesn�t fit all ��.. | |
| That's when someone tells someone else about what worked for | |
| them in a situation �yet it doesn�t work for them. | |
| One moment God is saying to Moses � Be still and know that I | |
| am God ��next moment He is saying to Moses ��Why are you crying | |
| to Me , stretch out your rod and divide the waters ,..� | |
| The only way that we can ever �get it right� , is when we ask | |
| direction and do it how He says for that day, moment , or | |
| situation. | |
| I think Jesus was saying this when He said - Don�t use vain | |
| repetitive prayers � �.listen and then you will know how and | |
| what to pray. | |
| Probably why many people say � Prayers don�t work� . Well | |
| they do when directed by God. | |
| When praying for this darkness in the world right now�without | |
| God , I wouldn�t have a clue how to pray effectively � | |
| But James 5 tells us that - �the effective fervent prayer of a | |
| righteous man availeth MUCH! � | |
| Once God tells us how and what �then we have confidence | |
| �.James 5 �� This is the confidence that we have in Him , if we | |
| ask anything according to His will He hears us, and if we know | |
| that He hears us we know that we have the petition thst we ask | |
| of him �. | |
| David couldnt wear someone else�s armour , neither can we�. | |
| I like reading of king Jehoshaphat�. | |
| #Post#: 34404-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Justaname Date: July 8, 2023, 12:11 pm | |
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| Today I woke up feeling quite glum. | |
| The nastiness of man , his rejection of God , and his worldly | |
| doings , were all weighing on me . I couldn�t seem to be able | |
| to shake it off. | |
| I often mutter to the Lord � When O Lord when is it Your | |
| time ?� | |
| Then this morning Dave played some worship songs and one of them | |
| stated to warm my soul and I could feel the heaviness start | |
| lifting . | |
| It�s sung by Juanita Du Plessis �� Four Days Late � | |
| So it comforts my heart once again , that God is not late at all | |
| ( which in reading Revelation we know anyway �the cup of Satans | |
| evil within man, is not yet full ) | |
| Song | |
| The news came to Jesus, please, come fast | |
| Lazarus is sick and without Your help he will not last | |
| Mary and Martha watched their brother die | |
| They waited for Jesus, He did not come | |
| And they wondered why | |
| The deathwatch was over, buried four days | |
| Somebody said, He'll soon be here, the Lord's on His way | |
| Martha ran to Him and then she cried | |
| Lord, if you had been here, You could have healed him | |
| He'd still be alive | |
| But You're four days late and all hope is gone | |
| Lord, we don't understand why You've waited so long | |
| But His way is God's way, not yours or mine | |
| And isn't it great, when He's four days late | |
| He's still on time | |
| Jesus said, Martha, show me the grave | |
| But she said, Lord, You don't understand | |
| He's been there four days | |
| The gravestone was rolled back, then Jesus cried | |
| Lazarus come forth, then somebody said | |
| He's alive, he's alive (he's alive) | |
| (He's alive, he's alive) | |
| You may be fighting a battle of fear | |
| You've cried to the Lord, I need You now | |
| But He has not appeared | |
| Friend don't be discouraged | |
| 'Cause He's still the same | |
| He'll soon be here, He'll roll back the stone | |
| And He'll call out your name (call out your name) | |
| When He's four days late and all hope is gone | |
| Lord, we don't understand why You've waited so long | |
| But His way is God's way, not yours or mine | |
| And isn't it great, when He's four days late | |
| He's still on time (He's still on time) | |
| #Post#: 34405-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Kerry Date: July 9, 2023, 5:02 am | |
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| News can be depressing, Helen. I don't have a TV and don't want | |
| one. Actually I think I might have one; but when the new | |
| gadgets came out for the new broadcasting standard I didn't get | |
| one. I wonder if the old TV is in the attic? | |
| Here's an idea for people who watch the news or listen to it. | |
| "Pray without ceasing," Paul said; so when you hear the first | |
| bit of bad news, ask Jesus to take care of it; and keep doing | |
| that with all the bad things you hear, "Let God's Will be done." | |
| I think the world is crazy and needs our prayers desperately. | |
| You can also pray for the protection of people when you hear | |
| news they've done something good. | |
| I just learned about a crazy development in my family with my | |
| nephew and his daughter and granddaughter. There is nothing I | |
| can do about it except pray. I don't even know what to ask for | |
| specifically. | |
| #Post#: 34407-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Justaname Date: July 9, 2023, 8:12 am | |
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| [quote author=Kerry link=topic=1577.msg34405#msg34405 | |
| date=1688896925] | |
| News can be depressing, Helen. I don't have a TV and don't want | |
| one. Actually I think I might have one; but when the new | |
| gadgets came out for the new broadcasting standard I didn't get | |
| one. I wonder if the old TV is in the attic? | |
| Here's an idea for people who watch the news or listen to it. | |
| "Pray without ceasing," Paul said; so when you hear the first | |
| bit of bad news, ask Jesus to take care of it; and keep doing | |
| that with all the bad things you hear, "Let God's Will be done." | |
| I think the world is crazy and needs our prayers desperately. | |
| You can also pray for the protection of people when you hear | |
| news they've done something good. | |
| I just learned about a crazy development in my family with my | |
| nephew and his daughter and granddaughter. There is nothing I | |
| can do about it except pray. I don't even know what to ask for | |
| specifically. | |
| [/quote] | |
| Agree , that is why the words re Jesus being too late , was such | |
| a blessing to me. | |
| I�d taken my eyes off of the Lord , and dwelling on the state of | |
| our family members and of the world. | |
| Just like the disciples �as they looked at the storm and waves , | |
| it created doubts and fear �and Jesus , asleep at the helm , | |
| seemingly uninterested and � late to deliver them� �yet He says | |
| to them when He awakes , �Where is YOUR faith � | |
| He is expecting us to keep and use faith in todays storm �He | |
| will as usual be �right on time� �even though we wish Him to DO. | |
| something right now��.He won�t , not until the fullness of time. | |
| Until then , we use the faith that we have , to pray into these | |
| situations around us with authority ! Yay God! We are not the | |
| underdogs �we do have His authority to bind the dark forces that | |
| are causing such pain and distress�. | |
| Dave and I will pray with you , over your family , that God be | |
| able to restore what is broken in lives. x | |
| #Post#: 34408-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Dave Date: July 9, 2023, 10:45 am | |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBwhmqRVG48 | |
| In this happening in the life of Jesus, the Lazarus thing, it | |
| struck me that Jesus had many natural enemies, but they were | |
| never a problem because He walked in the knowledge that he came | |
| to do 'His Fathers will' | |
| We know a time is coming when mens hearts will fail them for | |
| fear, but what about us? | |
| Everyone in faith, is having it very definitely tried in these | |
| days, unfortunately faith has many enemies, in this story 3 pop | |
| to mind,' natural reason,' then 'fear' and then one that we tend | |
| to sweep under ones spiritual carpet, 'mistrust' | |
| Natural reason will hamper the work of faith, we know that in | |
| the natural men cannot move mountains or walk on water but faith | |
| overrules and it has no regard for nature and it's laws. | |
| So when Jesus says to Martha "Take away the stone" so what | |
| kicks in, faith or reason, " Lord, by this time --------" She | |
| had forgotten the -" Did I not tell you if you would believe you | |
| would see ([size=10pt]not in some futuristic time but in her | |
| nasty now and now) the glory of God" | |
| Scripture tells us, "Behold, I have given you authority to tread | |
| upon serpents and scorpions, AND over ALL the power of the enemy | |
| and nothing shall hurt you" | |
| Unfortunately, if we let reason have it's perfect work, it will | |
| leave faith dead like Lazarus'. | |
| Fear.=A man penned, "Fear is the proof that man still longs to | |
| defend his own ego and pities himself, " | |
| ( Selah) | |
| It is a symptom of self love and stands in opposition to faith. | |
| Fear weakens or destroys faith and deprives man of it's fruits" | |
| Fear many times is a 'true' lack of knowledge, | |
| We know that like Cain of old, fear crouches at the door of our | |
| faith. | |
| Mistrust. | |
| "Mistrust will put us in the place to disbelieve what God has | |
| promised us, trust has to be the foundation for effectual prayer | |
| and is the anchor to not be double minded, and unstable in all | |
| our ways, and not receive the hundredfold." | |
| These are some modified thoughts given at a Sunday school. | |
| And in the 'four days late', one can empathize with Martha and | |
| ponder if one could have done any better. | |
| Food for thought. | |
| [/size] | |
| #Post#: 34410-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Rita Date: July 10, 2023, 12:36 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Hi Helen and Dave xxxxx | |
| Just thought I would let you know that my daughter Sarah, | |
| borrowed � Love wins � yesterday. She has been backslidden for | |
| years but when Dan came to faith she brought a new Bible. This | |
| was amidst her mental health and opioids addiction battles, | |
| which you know led to her recent suicide attempt. Last week she | |
| recommended a tv programme to me � Manifest � and it got us | |
| talking about Romans 8:28 and The apostle Paul. As you know we | |
| are endeavouring to move next door to her ( which is proving a | |
| battle all by itself ) anyway she asked if me, Dan and her could | |
| start a Bible study when we move , something I was not | |
| expecting. | |
| I have been praying for her for years, like Dan. The house move | |
| has hit a brick wall at the moment but I desperately want to | |
| believe it will happen. Now I realise that this is a spiritual | |
| battle, the enemy is endeavouring to stop the move, stop us from | |
| what that will lead to. God preserved her life as you know she | |
| very nearly succeeded to end it. | |
| Right now I am laid up with injuries ( damaged maniscus in my | |
| knee and I pulled a muscle in my good leg while on shift on | |
| Saturday ( think I was walking differently because of the knee | |
| injury and it put pressure on my other leg ) I am in my own | |
| battle because this affects my income and ability to do things. | |
| However Dan is away at my other sons house ( dog sitting ) the | |
| house is quiet and I have four days before I can attempt to go | |
| back to work���..I need to use my quiet times wisely xxxxxx | |
| Will you pray for all the above things and let�s see if that | |
| book speaks to Sarah as it did Dan xxxxx | |
| You are both part of their story now as you sent that book to me | |
| for Dan after his Dad died xxxxxx | |
| Rita | |
| #Post#: 34411-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Justaname Date: July 10, 2023, 10:06 am | |
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| [quote author=Rita link=topic=1577.msg34410#msg34410 | |
| date=1688967417] | |
| Hi Helen and Dave xxxxx | |
| Just thought I would let you know that my daughter Sarah, | |
| borrowed � Love wins � yesterday. She has been backslidden for | |
| years but when Dan came to faith she brought a new Bible. This | |
| was amidst her mental health and opioids addiction battles, | |
| which you know led to her recent suicide attempt. Last week she | |
| recommended a tv programme to me � Manifest � and it got us | |
| talking about Romans 8:28 and The apostle Paul. As you know we | |
| are endeavouring to move next door to her ( which is proving a | |
| battle all by itself ) anyway she asked if me, Dan and her could | |
| start a Bible study when we move , something I was not | |
| expecting. | |
| I have been praying for her for years, like Dan. The house move | |
| has hit a brick wall at the moment but I desperately want to | |
| believe it will happen. Now I realise that this is a spiritual | |
| battle, the enemy is endeavouring to stop the move, stop us from | |
| what that will lead to. God preserved her life as you know she | |
| very nearly succeeded to end it. | |
| Right now I am laid up with injuries ( damaged maniscus in my | |
| knee and I pulled a muscle in my good leg while on shift on | |
| Saturday ( think I was walking differently because of the knee | |
| injury and it put pressure on my other leg ) I am in my own | |
| battle because this affects my income and ability to do things. | |
| However Dan is away at my other sons house ( dog sitting ) the | |
| house is quiet and I have four days before I can attempt to go | |
| back to work���..I need to use my quiet times wisely xxxxxx | |
| Will you pray for all the above things and let�s see if that | |
| book speaks to Sarah as it did Dan xxxxx | |
| You are both part of their story now as you sent that book to me | |
| for Dan after his Dad died xxxxxx | |
| Rita | |
| [/quote] | |
| We are blessed to be a part of praying with you�We had a | |
| precious time of prayer , and God was in the midst � | |
| We prayed for your family needs and bodily �plus we prayed over | |
| Kerry�s family too. | |
| What a blessing to be a part of the lives of each other across | |
| the miles �Yay God !!! | |
| We believe that He is already working in all these situations | |
| �.and will continue to pray into all these issues of yours and | |
| Kerry�s� | |
| Every blessing�H | |
| #Post#: 34412-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: ~ Today ~ | |
| By: Rita Date: July 10, 2023, 10:56 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| Thankyou so much for the phone call - so lovely to speak to you | |
| both xxxxxxxxx | |
| I will also be praying for you Kerry , along with my prayer for | |
| all our families | |
| I did get off the phone to one bit of good news, my eldest son ( | |
| Mark )and my daughter (Sarah ) have not had a good relationship | |
| for some time, it�s something I have been praying about. Well | |
| she message to say that she asked Mark if he would go to the | |
| Prodigy concert in Brighton in November , as brother and sister | |
| and not as adults with complicated lives- he agreed and is | |
| looking forward to it��� | |
| One step at a time, God is good and in the timing xxxxxxxxxxx | |
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