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#Post#: 34210--------------------------------------------------
*Just a reminder �*
By: Justaname Date: June 9, 2023, 9:04 am
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I just looked at the Forum Rules as I haven�t read them for
many years now.
Good to be reminded I think .
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10. No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
should not judge them by a group they may be in.
12. If you see what you consider infractions of the rules,
please notify the moderators. Do not try to handle things
yourself. That can make things worse.
Violations of these rules may result in a warning (either
private or public), suspension of certain privileges, or
banning.
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End of quote.
It would be nice if rule # 10 was still taken seriously .
Just saying �
#Post#: 34212--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: Kerry Date: June 9, 2023, 10:19 am
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=1564.msg34210#msg34210
date=1686319457]
I just looked at the Forum Rules as I haven�t read them for many
years now.
Good to be reminded I think .
Quote
10. No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
should not judge them by a group they may be in.
12. If you see what you consider infractions of the rules,
please notify the moderators. Do not try to handle things
yourself. That can make things worse.
Violations of these rules may result in a warning (either
private or public), suspension of certain privileges, or
banning.
���-
End of quote.
It would be nice if rule # 10 was still taken seriously .
Just saying �
[/quote]I too think it would nice if people took the rules more
seriously; and I wonder what I should do at times. If people
violate the rules and no one complains, I tend to do little or
nothing. If people want to quarrel, who am I to tell them to
stop on my own? That would be like having the police entering
homes to make sure the people aren't breaking any laws. People
need to call the police if they feel others are breaking the
law.
#Post#: 34216--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: Justaname Date: June 9, 2023, 10:41 am
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Well my brother I am �calling in the police � [emoji4]
I�d like a curtain member to be �called to account � and to be
held to the rule # 10 as stated in the Nuts and Bolts Forum
Rules Thread.
Quote - 10. No derogatory remarks of other religions,
But , if I am seen as a trouble maker then I�ll just say no
more.
I didn�t start on here to make trouble. Sorry if I�ve caused you
problems .
��.H
#Post#: 34220--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: Giuliano Date: June 9, 2023, 12:09 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=1564.msg34216#msg34216
date=1686325310]
Well my brother I am �calling in the police � [emoji4]
I�d like a curtain member to be �called to account � and to be
held to the rule # 10 as stated in the Nuts and Bolts Forum
Rules Thread.
Quote - 10. No derogatory remarks of other religions,
But , if I am seen as a trouble maker then I�ll just say no
more.
I didn�t start on here to make trouble. Sorry if I�ve caused you
problems .
��.H
[/quote]
What? I just logged in as Giuliano and see no reported posts.
It's got to be an official complaint before I'll look to see
officially what's going on and who if anyone is causing trouble.
If two people are going at it publicly, maybe that's what they
want to do. If either or both want me to look at things, then
I will.
No problem here, at least not yet.
#Post#: 34221--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: Justaname Date: June 9, 2023, 1:22 pm
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Hmmm okay , then I guess it is � my bad � as they say .
�I thought that a reference and open reminder to all of us ,
including the Admin ,ref rule #10 , would be enough �but guess
not �
No worries�Let all continue as it is�
#Post#: 34223--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: meshak Date: June 9, 2023, 7:21 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=1564.msg34221#msg34221
date=1686334934]
Hmmm okay , then I guess it is � my bad � as they say .
�I thought that a reference and open reminder to all of us ,
including the Admin ,ref rule #10 , would be enough �but guess
not �
No worries�Let all continue as it is�
[/quote]
10. No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
should not judge them by a group they may be in.
So who do you think offended this rule?
How?
Would you clarify?
thank you.
#Post#: 34224--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: Giuliano Date: June 9, 2023, 8:10 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1564.msg34223#msg34223
date=1686356516]
10. No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
should not judge them by a group they may be in.
So who do you think offended this rule?
How?
Would you clarify?
thank you.
[/quote]
I ask if you are following the Golden Rule as the rules suggest
we all do? You deleted posts by Helen. Does that mean you want
her to delete your posts in her threads? Would that make you
feel better? It makes me think perhaps that is so. You seem
to crave rejection from others. This is a mystery to me. I
worry about you, and I think Helen is worrying about you too
even if you don't see it that way. Helen also is showing she
cares about others who may be offended by your posts. It's not
just me; it's not just you; it's not just Helen; we all should
care about everyone else.
You may say you are here to spread your "truth"; but if that is
so, why not keep to your own threads? Why seek answers about
what Helen has to say? Just sayin'.
#Post#: 34225--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: meshak Date: June 9, 2023, 10:42 pm
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[quote author=Giuliano link=topic=1564.msg34224#msg34224
date=1686359432]
I ask if you are following the Golden Rule as the rules suggest
we all do? You deleted posts by Helen. Does that mean you want
her to delete your posts in her threads? Would that make you
feel better? It makes me think perhaps that is so. You seem
to crave rejection from others. This is a mystery to me. I
worry about you, and I think Helen is worrying about you too
even if you don't see it that way. Helen also is showing she
cares about others who may be offended by your posts. It's not
just me; it's not just you; it's not just Helen; we all should
care about everyone else.
You may say you are here to spread your "truth"; but if that is
so, why not keep to your own threads? Why seek answers about
what Helen has to say? Just sayin'.
[/quote]
It is obvious Helen was indicating that I broke the rule.
I don't believe I did.
All I did was tell the Bible fact.
We are all professed believers.
So I have to defend the credibility that she is attempting to
smear.
Actually, she is the one who has been falsely witnessing against
the Bible.
She has no business making accusations against the Bible's
truth.
BTW, Kerry,
I worry about your sense of fairness or discernment of what is
right or wrong.
#Post#: 34227--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: Giuliano Date: June 10, 2023, 10:27 am
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Meshak,
I have moved this thread since I do not want discussions about
moderation problems being discussed in the main forum. This
way, people are free to say what they want without worrying
about what a moderator may do. Read Rule 13. So far, no one
has actually "argued" with the moderation, but it seems close.
13. No public arguing with the moderators. If you have a
concern, feel free to contact a moderator by PM.
[quote author=meshak link=topic=1564.msg34225#msg34225
date=1686368558]
It is obvious Helen was indicating that I broke the
rule.[/quote]
Why did you ask who then? Why not be direct instead of trying
to be sly?
[quote]I don't believe I did.[/quote]Starting the thread about
Helen was a violation of the rules.
6. No threads in the main section about other members. If
it's personal, please keep it in the Lounge where personal
interaction is encouraged since it is visible only to other
members and not to guests.
I moved that thread to Free for All for the same reason I moved
this thread and the thread Helen started about you. I do not
like to punish people if they make mistakes without knowing
about it. To her credit, Helen read the rules. I doubt she'll
repeat herself and start another thread about you. You also
violated another rule:
10. No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
should not judge them by a group they may be in.
You are too quick to attack entire groups of people. Try to
remember that many people believe what they were taught. Do not
attribute sin to people for simply believing what they were
taught. That rule means also not to attack "any" religion as a
group. That includes religions that have nothing to do with
Jesus. Your constant railing against "trins" is a violation of
the rules. I have also told you previously elsewhere that I
find that term insulting; but you persisted in using it. If you
can't type Trinitarians, what is wrong with you? Why refuse to
capitalize the word? Why reduce it to some kind of slang? If
anyone else had used the "report" button for your using that
word, I would have taken action against you for your rudeness.
As it is, I do not want to impose my own sense of what is
proper on anyone else here. I do not want to be a dictator; but
if someone else agrees with me, that is a different matter.
[quote]All I did was tell the Bible fact.
We are all professed believers.
So I have to defend the credibility that she is attempting to
smear.
Actually, she is the one who has been falsely witnessing against
the Bible.
She has no business making accusations against the Bible's
truth.[/quote]
You have a very high opinion of yourself, Meshak, if you believe
you alone know how to read the Bible. From what I see, you tend
to focus on a few verses and ignore the rest just as you ignored
me when I asked you if you were obeying the Golden Rule.
[quote]BTW, Kerry,
I worry about your sense of fairness or discernment of what is
right or wrong.
[/quote]I wish you would worry more about not creating problems
here. I do not enjoy acting as a judge making decisions. I
believe two Christians could smooth things out between
themselves without a third party acting as a judge. If backed
into a corner, I will act as a judge if that is the only way to
get peace.
I realize we are not in a church here; but it is a community of
sorts. I try to follow what Jesus said about resolving
problems.
Matthew 20:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against
thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if
he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two
more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may
be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the
church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto
thee as an heathen man and a publican.
So far, no one has filed a report against you with me; but if
such a report gets filed, the situation will change. I am
sorry if you offended other people in the past and sorry you
offended Helen; but I applaud them for their Christian charity
and not seeking revenge. There is a limit to this however. You
are in the middle of too many conflicts, and you start conflicts
with your intolerant tone and persistent ignoring of the rules.
I do not enjoy saying this; but you remind me of a wolf
pretending to be a shepherd. I see you that way; but I also see
you as still mentally influenced by how many leaders in the
Jehovah's Witnesses behave. You are imitating them perhaps
thinking it works for them so it will work for you.
Know this please. I have known a few Jehovah's Witnesses who
struck me as very fine and loving people. I've also known one
who was a monster; and leaders in his congregation were horrible
too in how they handled things. While I agree with them that
God is one, that does not make all Jehovah's Witnesses good or
all of them evil. The people who conspired to have Jesus put
to death were not Trinitarians, but their teaching that God is
one was not enough to make them into good people. There are
also good Trinitarians and bad ones.
I believe God will hold us accountable for the truth we know.
We will not be condemned for being mistaken or for being
uninformed. Who could be saved if we had to know every thing?
Let me close trying to explain the rules here. I am not a
literalist when it comes to the laws of Moses. Those laws are
correct if we interpret them with the right spirit. Therefore
I try not to judge people for trivial "literal" breaking of the
rules here.
#Post#: 34228--------------------------------------------------
Re: *Just a reminder �*
By: meshak Date: June 10, 2023, 2:36 pm
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[quote author=Giuliano link=topic=1564.msg34227#msg34227
date=1686410836]
You are too quick to attack entire groups of people.[/quote]
It is according to what the Bible says.
You cannot find anything that I claim a false or a lie.
If you do, why don't you show it to me?
You don't seem to know much about what the Bible says. Yes, I
am lumping you with the majority I am talking about.
I did not address everything that you said because it is showing
ignorance of the Bible.
If I address all the unbiblical things you guys are saying it
will be the whole book.
Your judgments are so unbiblical. Yes, I am lumping you with
the majority of believers I am talking about too.
BTW, I did not ask Helen specifically because she attacked me in
so many ways and I know she will be doing the same over and
over.
That's what she has been doing when I address the majority of
believers' false god-whooshing spirit.
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