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#Post#: 20576--------------------------------------------------
Question about God
By: Kerry Date: November 11, 2018, 11:00 pm
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If God is a Trinity, then man should also be thee persons, no?
I don't feel like three persons and doubt if anyone else does.
In what way was man made and created in the image and likeness
of God?
#Post#: 20578--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: meshak Date: November 12, 2018, 6:35 am
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1366.msg20576#msg20576
date=1541998820]
If God is a Trinity, then man should also be thee persons, no?
I don't feel like three persons and doubt if anyone else does.
In what way was man made and created in the image and likeness
of God?
[/quote]
We have feelings or emotions.
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Re: Question about God
By: paralambano Date: November 12, 2018, 12:24 pm
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One chooses who they are at any given moment. One can wear many
hats (parent, professional, friend, etc . . .) but one is
still one. There's a masculine and feminine aspect of God - -
this won't make Spirit two. Infinite Spirit is Cause/Father,
Christ is the idea of effect or son (creation), and the Holy
Spirit is wisdom or understanding (feminine). Infinite Spirit is
incorporeal. That's how I understand it in Unity.
God is Infinite Spirit/Intelligence, consciousness at base.
We're His thoughts, His Thinking, spiritual beings, however else
we might imagine or choose "other". He's Living Cause, we're
Effect, really inseparable, only apparently not. We reflect all
His attributes including the ability to imagine. Jesus said He
does and speaks what God does and says. There's only one
Intelligence with its infinite thoughts and Jesus' mind was as
much God's as creation can get. A self-reflective multiplication
table only sees its own perfection. A self-reflecting God only
sees His perfect creation since there is nothing beyond
Infinity. It's we who imagine and believe otherwise, thus all
the apparent damage. God can't know error since there's no Truth
in error and God is Infinite Truth itself, spirit,
Consciousness. God's creation can only be eternally very good
since evil can't proceed from Infinite, Perfect Good as a good
spring can't send both sweet and bitter waters.
We reach the All-in-All when we entirely stop imagining that
we're anything other than God's very good thinking, His reflex
image. We stop imagining and believing that error has actual
power. This is Christ mind in its entirety. We are then One with
Him as Jesus is.
para . . . . .
#Post#: 20581--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: Kerry Date: November 13, 2018, 7:10 am
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[quote author=paralambano link=topic=1366.msg20580#msg20580
date=1542047077]
One chooses who they are at any given moment. [/quote]
This does not sound like the typical teaching about the Trinity
where the three persons of the Trinity exist through all
eternity. What were they "doing" before there was time, before
there were "moments"?
[quote]One can wear many hats (parent, professional, friend, etc
. . .) but one is still one. [/quote]This is in line with the
"correct" rendering of the Greek "personae" which means masks,
as in the masks used by actors. Somehow that later got altered
to "persons."
[quote]There's a masculine and feminine aspect of God - - this
won't make Spirit two. Infinite Spirit is Cause/Father, Christ
is the idea of effect or son (creation), and the Holy Spirit is
wisdom or understanding (feminine). Infinite Spirit is
incorporeal. That's how I understand it in Unity.[/quote]You
seem to be saying the Father and the Spirit are the same being.
[quote]God is Infinite Spirit/Intelligence, consciousness at
base. We're His thoughts, His Thinking, spiritual beings,
however else we might imagine or choose "other". He's Living
Cause, we're Effect, really inseparable, only apparently not.
[/quote]
God gave dominion to Adam, and later we see all things being
made subject to Jesus the Son. If we are effect only, perhaps
we're not measuring up to what God wants from us. If we cannot
cause anything, we'd bore God; and it would produce a sterile
kind of universe where free will did not exist. Everything
would have been determined.
[quote]We reflect all His attributes including the ability to
imagine. [/quote]
Later you say God can't know error, only Truth. However the
imagination involves the consideration of "what is not" and then
making it so. What is perceived as "not being" or "false" is
changed into "being" and "true."
[quote]Jesus said He does and speaks what God does and says.
There's only one Intelligence with its infinite thoughts and
Jesus' mind was as much God's as creation can get. A
self-reflective multiplication table only sees its own
perfection. A self-reflecting God only sees His perfect creation
since there is nothing beyond Infinity.[/quote]I would think God
would be lonely with only this perspective of seeing His own
perfection.
[quote]It's we who imagine and believe otherwise, thus all the
apparent damage. God can't know error since there's no Truth in
error and God is Infinite Truth itself, spirit, Consciousness.
God's creation can only be eternally very good since evil can't
proceed from Infinite, Perfect Good as a good spring can't send
both sweet and bitter waters.[/quote]You may be using a
different definitions for "evil" than I do and from what Isaiah
did when he said God created evil. For me, evil and darkness
are like the number zero. While it's nothing, you can also
derive things from it by splitting it into polarities. With
numbers, it's plus and minus. I'd say male and female are
spiritual polarities. In my view, if you could take a sum
total of the entire universe, of all that exists within
creation, the sum total would be zero. Yet "nothing" can be
said to be "evil" or "barren" the way a barren field can be
called "bad."
[quote]We reach the All-in-All when we entirely stop imagining
that we're anything other than God's very good thinking, His
reflex image. We stop imagining and believing that error has
actual power. This is Christ mind in its entirety. We are then
One with Him as Jesus is.[/quote]Why say believing error doesn't
have actual power? If that were true, it wouldn't be important
to change our way of thinking, would it? On the other hand,
if God did give man dominion, then man was given power to wield,
for either good or the evil. Our choices would matter.
There is a verse which still perplexes me somewhat. I have an
opinion on it but not a completely solid.
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,
Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for
the devil and his angels:
I don't jump to conclusions and think it had to be God who
"prepared" the everlasting fire for "the devil and his angels."
Nor do I jump to the conclusion that it was God who made hell
bigger in Isaiah 5.
For me, these pieces of our "reality" (or surreality if you
prefer) are creations of man. If you like the idea of people
you detest suffering in hellfire, you're helping create that
reality; and the odds are you'll wind up in the hell you helped
create.
Proverbs 26:27 Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he
that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.
Is hell real? I'd say if you're in it, you'd experience it as
real. Even if it is the product of man's imagination, you'd
still experience it as real; so I define it as real. Can it be
made to disappear? I believe it would disappear if people
stopped imagining it was there.
#Post#: 20582--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: Kerry Date: November 13, 2018, 7:37 am
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1366.msg20578#msg20578
date=1542026135]
We have feelings or emotions.
[/quote]What do you think they are for?
#Post#: 20586--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: meshak Date: November 13, 2018, 9:10 am
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1366.msg20582#msg20582
date=1542116243]
What do you think they are for?
[/quote]
loving each other.
#Post#: 20587--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: paralambano Date: November 13, 2018, 12:17 pm
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Kerry -
[quote]This does not sound like the typical teaching about the
Trinity where the three persons of the Trinity exist through all
eternity.[/quote]
It's not meant to be. You had written that you don't feel like
three people. I had responded that you can do three things (i.e
be a parent, a lawyer, an athlete) and still be one. You might
be known as all three, two, or just one to many, some, or one.
When one is the athlete, one doesn't stop being a parent or
lawyer. When one is lawyering (sic), one doesn't stop being an
athlete or parent. These qualities are still there but separated
by time.
[quote]What were they "doing" before there was time, before
there were "moments"? [/quote]
Self-understanding co-eternally. Loving. Thinking.
[quote]You seem to be saying the Father and the Spirit are the
same being.[/quote]
Ya. It's like the parent and the athlete are the same being,
that is, of human substance. The Father and Spirit share the
same essence.
[quote]God gave dominion to Adam, and later we see all things
being made subject to Jesus the Son. If we are effect only,
perhaps we're not measuring up to what God wants from us. If we
cannot cause anything, we'd bore God; and it would produce a
sterile kind of universe where free will did not exist.
Everything would have been determined.[/quote]
Infinite Spirit has us choose between an infinite number of very
good ideas (many of which we have yet to know) according to our
unique person-hood, so our choosing is a reflection of God's
ability to choose and cause. By Infinite Cause, I mean Primal
Cause, that is, that which without nothing would exist.
Everything very good can be traced back to this Primal Cause.
[quote]Later you say God can't know error, only Truth. However
the imagination involves the consideration of "what is not" and
then making it so. What is perceived as "not being" or "false"
is changed into "being" and "true." [/quote]
That's right. The imagination can hypothesize what is not and
hypothetically turn it into what is "true" and seem very real.
A child learning the multiplication table can guess that 5x5 is
27 and believe it, making the same error multiple times, even
have support for it from others who believe it's true but unless
it's actually part of that perfect table, it remains an error,
not so. In the same way, we can hypothesize many things that are
logically impossible to come out of a Perfect, Good, Eternal,
Infinite, Love Logos as creation and believe them to be true or
at least claim them to be so. We have an example of this when
certain religious leaders claimed that Jesus healed by the
"power" of evil. Jesus rhetorically asked them who their sons
healed by and then said that a good tree (Holy Spirit) doesn't
produce evil fruit. They were essentially blaspheming God's
Spirit by this lie.
[quote]I would think God would be lonely with only this
perspective of seeing His own perfection. [/quote]
His own perfection is infinite in its myriad forms and very good
experiences. God is the Doer, we're the doing. How can one be
bored with this variety? Loneliness, boredom, despondency, etc
are all imaginary states, the "outer-darkness" apparently apart
from harmony, bliss, satisfaction. God never created or made
these things. They're not true, only imagined to be so until we
learn the Truth about them, repent, and ascend by the mind of
Christ, the only real mind there actually is. Until then, we're
stuck in first, the carnal one, the lying imposition.
[quote]You may be using a different definitions for "evil" than
I do and from what Isaiah did when he said God created evil.
For me, evil and darkness are like the number zero. While it's
nothing, you can also derive things from it by splitting it into
polarities. With numbers, it's plus and minus. I'd say male
and female are spiritual polarities. In my view, if you could
take a sum total of the entire universe, of all that exists
within creation, the sum total would be zero. Yet "nothing"
can be said to be "evil" or "barren" the way a barren field can
be called "bad."
[/quote]
The proper word there for "evil" in Isaiah is "disaster" or
"desolation" since it's a word in parallelism. There is no
"nothing" in my paradigm, Kerry, only Something, God All-in-All
Omnipresent Infinite. Evil is error, wrong thinking. There's
only one Creator, the aforementioned. There's no "room" for
anything opposed to Him. Evil, error, sin is the hypothetical
negation of Truth but it's only Truth that's real. We can't
understand evil since there's really nothing of it to
understand. We can't understand 2x2=5 simply because it's not
true. We can only know what's true, 2x2=4. That's how we can
dismiss the lie - - knowing the Truth first. If we didn't
understand the latter, we could not know that 2x2=5 is wrong.
The Truth always precedes the error. You can't have error as a
hypothetical if there's not some Truth which precedes it.
[quote]Why say believing error doesn't have actual power? If
that were true, it wouldn't be important to change our way of
thinking, would it? On the other hand, if God did give man
dominion, then man was given power to wield, for either good or
the evil. Our choices would matter.[/quote]
Quite the opposite, Kerry. Consciousness is at base. It's our
carnal thinking, the old man, that gives it its apparent, not
real, power. We wrote about this before - - the child who's
told there's a monster beneath his bed. That's the lie, the
suggestion. The child imagines it and begins to believe and soon
enough, they start to worry, cry, and be frightened by nothing
but the suggestion. It's all in the child's carnal mind. Christ
Mind would straightaway dismiss the suggestion, not by human
willpower, but by knowing the Truth, God never created evil
since God is Omnipresent, Infinite Love/Good. Evil is the
hypothetical opposite of Infinite Good, an "entity" wanting to
take the "place" of God. This is the way of thinking, Kerry.
This is our change, understanding by the Spirit of God that
there is no Power but Infinite Love. The ancient prophets proved
it because they had the Spirit (understanding) of God upon them.
It's having the Mind of Christ. This is the biggest part of
being born of the Spirit. We need to acknowledge the Allness of
God, understand it. There are none other gods, no other powers.
Impossible by Logos.
[quote]Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the
left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire,
prepared for the devil and his angels:
I don't jump to conclusions and think it had to be God who
"prepared" the everlasting fire for "the devil and his angels."
Nor do I jump to the conclusion that it was God who made hell
bigger in Isaiah 5.
For me, these pieces of our "reality" (or surreality if you
prefer) are creations of man. If you like the idea of people
you detest suffering in hellfire, you're helping create that
reality; and the odds are you'll wind up in the hell you helped
create.
Proverbs 26:27 Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he
that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.
Is hell real? I'd say if you're in it, you'd experience it as
real. Even if it is the product of man's imagination, you'd
still experience it as real; so I define it as real. Can it be
made to disappear? I believe it would disappear if people
stopped imagining it was there. [/quote]
I agree with you. I would add that in order to stop imagining
evil, one ought to accept truth first. What is hell? We can have
it on earth, can't we? It's a state of mind which "produces"
more untruths. If we're focused on God's Goodness, His Allness,
our state of mind begins to change and so the untruths start to
disappear from our Consciousness. There's only one
Consciousness, Kerry. It's yours, mine, and everyone's. It's a
universe of peace and harmony eternally existent right now but
we hypothesize, imagine, and believe that there are many
separate minds, many at odds with one another instead of
thinking God's thoughts, doing God's things, speaking the
infinity of God's words. Jesus saw this universe as the only one
that actually exists and proved its harmony by his deeds
(raising the dead, healing). We too will have these deeds when
we see clearly as He did that we are actually perfect (be
Perfect) now as God sees us since God anthropomorphically can't
lay his eyes on evil. It's we that imagine otherwise and create
our own punishments and hells.
Real is only what God has created, that which is very good [by
revelation], what is in line with His thoughts. How can it
actually be otherwise? There's no Truth in the unreal, what God
hasn't created. God is Infinite Truth. There's no "room" for the
unreal or error actually. We awaken from this dream in the
finite (matter) and enter the Real, God-All-in-All where Jesus
can be called friend because we can finally know what he knows.
para . . . .
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Re: Question about God
By: paralambano Date: November 13, 2018, 12:56 pm
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Meshak -
[quote]loving each other.[/quote]
That's a very good answer.
para . . . .
#Post#: 20599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: Kerry Date: November 14, 2018, 9:39 pm
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[quote author=paralambano link=topic=1366.msg20587#msg20587
date=1542133035]
Kerry -
It's not meant to be. You had written that you don't feel like
three people. I had responded that you can do three things (i.e
be a parent, a lawyer, an athlete) and still be one. You might
be known as all three, two, or just one to many, some, or one.
When one is the athlete, one doesn't stop being a parent or
lawyer. When one is lawyering (sic), one doesn't stop being an
athlete or parent. These qualities are still there but separated
by time.[/quote]
In your paradigm, do the Father, Son and Holy Spirit parallel
three aspects of man?
[quote]Self-understanding co-eternally. Loving. Thinking.
Ya. It's like the parent and the athlete are the same being,
that is, of human substance. The Father and Spirit share the
same essence.[/quote]The word "essence" used in theological
discussions confuses me. I think it improbable that God can
be said to some "essence" since that would mean God also has
attributes that are not necessary -- nonessential or even
accidental. Can perfection contain an attribute that isn't
essential?
[quote]Infinite Spirit has us choose between an infinite number
of very good ideas (many of which we have yet to know) according
to our unique person-hood, so our choosing is a reflection of
God's ability to choose and cause. By Infinite Cause, I mean
Primal Cause, that is, that which without nothing would exist.
Everything very good can be traced back to this Primal Cause.
That's right. The imagination can hypothesize what is not and
hypothetically turn it into what is "true" and seem very real.
A child learning the multiplication table can guess that 5x5 is
27 and believe it, making the same error multiple times, even
have support for it from others who believe it's true but unless
it's actually part of that perfect table, it remains an error,
not so. In the same way, we can hypothesize many things that are
logically impossible to come out of a Perfect, Good, Eternal,
Infinite, Love Logos as creation and believe them to be true or
at least claim them to be so. We have an example of this when
certain religious leaders claimed that Jesus healed by the
"power" of evil. Jesus rhetorically asked them who their sons
healed by and then said that a good tree (Holy Spirit) doesn't
produce evil fruit. They were essentially blaspheming God's
Spirit by this lie.
His own perfection is infinite in its myriad forms and very good
experiences. God is the Doer, we're the doing. How can one be
bored with this variety? Loneliness, boredom, despondency, etc
are all imaginary states, the "outer-darkness" apparently apart
from harmony, bliss, satisfaction. God never created or made
these things. They're not true, only imagined to be so until we
learn the Truth about them, repent, and ascend by the mind of
Christ, the only real mind there actually is. Until then, we're
stuck in first, the carnal one, the lying imposition.[/quote]If
God is the Doer and we're the doing, how is that being made in
the image and likeness of God?
[quote]The proper word there for "evil" in Isaiah is "disaster"
or "desolation" since it's a word in parallelism. There is no
"nothing" in my paradigm, Kerry, only Something, God All-in-All
Omnipresent Infinite. Evil is error, wrong thinking. There's
only one Creator, the aforementioned. There's no "room" for
anything opposed to Him. Evil, error, sin is the hypothetical
negation of Truth but it's only Truth that's real. We can't
understand evil since there's really nothing of it to
understand. We can't understand 2x2=5 simply because it's not
true. We can only know what's true, 2x2=4. That's how we can
dismiss the lie - - knowing the Truth first. If we didn't
understand the latter, we could not know that 2x2=5 is wrong.
The Truth always precedes the error. You can't have error as a
hypothetical if there's not some Truth which precedes
it.[/quote]
How do you explain Isaiah's statement that God created darkness
and evil, or do you think he was off track?
[quote]Quite the opposite, Kerry. Consciousness is at base. It's
our carnal thinking, the old man, that gives it its apparent,
not real, power. We wrote about this before - - the child
who's told there's a monster beneath his bed. That's the lie,
the suggestion. The child imagines it and begins to believe and
soon enough, they start to worry, cry, and be frightened by
nothing but the suggestion. It's all in the child's carnal mind.
[/quote]I think you tried to explain to me once where the carnal
mind came from; but I didn't understand you. For me the
"carnal mind" is a manifestation of the Divine Mind, when one of
the Divine Sparks emanating from God pretend not to be part of
God and imagines it can lead a separate existence.
[quote]Christ Mind would straightaway dismiss the suggestion,
not by human willpower, but by knowing the Truth, God never
created evil since God is Omnipresent, Infinite Love/Good. Evil
is the hypothetical opposite of Infinite Good, an "entity"
wanting to take the "place" of God. This is the way of thinking,
Kerry. This is our change, understanding by the Spirit of God
that there is no Power but Infinite Love. The ancient prophets
proved it because they had the Spirit (understanding) of God
upon them. It's having the Mind of Christ. This is the biggest
part of being born of the Spirit. We need to acknowledge the
Allness of God, understand it. There are none other gods, no
other powers. Impossible by Logos. [/quote]Perhaps later I'll
go into my own 'trinity" which consists of the three Divine
Attributes of Love, Wisdom and Power and how one cannot have
one without the other two.
[quote]I agree with you. I would add that in order to stop
imagining evil, one ought to accept truth first. What is hell?
We can have it on earth, can't we? It's a state of mind which
"produces" more untruths. If we're focused on God's Goodness,
His Allness, our state of mind begins to change and so the
untruths start to disappear from our Consciousness. There's only
one Consciousness, Kerry. It's yours, mine, and everyone's. It's
a universe of peace and harmony eternally existent right now but
we hypothesize, imagine, and believe that there are many
separate minds, many at odds with one another instead of
thinking God's thoughts, doing God's things, speaking the
infinity of God's words. Jesus saw this universe as the only one
that actually exists and proved its harmony by his deeds
(raising the dead, healing). We too will have these deeds when
we see clearly as He did that we are actually perfect (be
Perfect) now as God sees us since God anthropomorphically can't
lay his eyes on evil. It's we that imagine otherwise and create
our own punishments and hells.
Real is only what God has created, that which is very good [by
revelation], what is in line with His thoughts. How can it
actually be otherwise? There's no Truth in the unreal, what God
hasn't created. God is Infinite Truth. There's no "room" for the
unreal or error actually. We awaken from this dream in the
finite (matter) and enter the Real, God-All-in-All where Jesus
can be called friend because we can finally know what he
knows.[/quote]
I lean to the Hindu and Buddhist position somewhat -- for me,
all that exists (in the way we understand things to exist) are
illusions or projections of the Mind of God. That includes good
and evil, benevolent and malevolent. Evil can exist since God
allowed us (the Divine Sparks) the godlike ability to project
things. It is nothing to be frightened of, of course. If we
don't like evil, we can stop imagining it into existence. And
if others project evil into our universe, we can refuse to add
to the illusion by accepting it as real in our own private
universes.
I tend to believe the "elohim" in Genesis which are said to have
created this world are not "The One God" but manifestations of
the One True God. After all, the word is plural -- and eloh-
is a goddess while -im is a masculine plural ending. Names are
not given since that could lead to idolatry, with people
mistaking individuals as being worthy of being worshiped as God.
#Post#: 20603--------------------------------------------------
Re: Question about God
By: paralambano Date: November 15, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Kerry -
[quote]In your paradigm, do the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
parallel three aspects of man?[/quote]
Body, soul, spirit? Father (Love) is infinite, eternal Spirit,
self-existent from whom we came, so man is a spirit reflected
from Spirit, life from eternal Life. Soul is our consciousness
- - in the highest sense, God's consciousness (Consciousness)
with its spiritual senses and man (Son) its reflected expression
or idea. The Holy Spirit is the communion or understanding of
Truth/Love between the Father and Son (man).
[quote]The word "essence" used in theological discussions
confuses me. I think it improbable that God can be said to
some "essence" since that would mean God also has attributes
that are not necessary -- nonessential or even accidental. Can
perfection contain an attribute that isn't essential? [/quote]
That's a hypothetical. If you place the words Eternal and
Infinite preceding it, there can't be any non-essentials. The
Essence is All-Space, not just filling All-Space.
[quote]If God is the Doer and we're the doing, how is that being
made in the image and likeness of God?[/quote]
He lives through us as we are various "temples". Paul said we
live and move and breathe in Him. I take this to mean that as
Omnipresence, Spirit's eternal and everlasting spiritual
expression is man as reflex. The real man is in union with God's
infinite thoughts and actions. His consciousness is
Consciousness. Jesus said that he judges as God tells him and
that he can't do anything by himself. He's the highest form of
spiritual man, the template always proceeding from Consciousness
(Father).
[quote]How do you explain Isaiah's statement that God created
darkness and evil, or do you think he was off track? [/quote]
Infinite Truth extinguishes falsehood. 2x2=5 disappears when
2x2=4 is accepted and understood. This is "disaster" to it
(falsehood) as the word "evil" should read there since you
likely know that God isn't the author of evil, otherwise a Good
Tree produces evil fruit. God is "disaster" to evil, just like
the math teacher's understanding of the harmony of the table is
"disastrous" to the error of the student.
[quote]I think you tried to explain to me once where the carnal
mind came from; but I didn't understand you. For me the
"carnal mind" is a manifestation of the Divine Mind, when one of
the Divine Sparks emanating from God pretend not to be part of
God and imagines it can lead a separate existence. [/quote]
The carnal mind in my paradigm can't be a manifestation of the
Divine Mind since revelation tells us that it's enmity toward
God. It can't proceed from Infinite Good/Perfection. It's
"lawless" in terms of the Divine - - it makes up its own
imaginary rules. I agree with your characterization of it as
pretense flying off or out of Divine Consciousness by choice,
however. It's imagination out of Divine Consciousness, our
ability to pretend that we can have a mind separate from the
Infinite, Real Intelligence, so the carnal mind itself is
unreal. It says, I'm the mind of man and here are my "laws"
(sin, death, some good, some bad). It imagines itself as real,
believes it is so, and acts by it. It's the hypothetical
negation of Divine Consciousness, error, satan, suggester.
[quote]I lean to the Hindu and Buddhist position somewhat -- for
me, all that exists (in the way we understand things to exist)
are illusions or projections of the Mind of God. That includes
good and evil, benevolent and malevolent. Evil can exist since
God allowed us (the Divine Sparks) the godlike ability to
project things. It is nothing to be frightened of, of course.
If we don't like evil, we can stop imagining it into existence.
And if others project evil into our universe, we can refuse to
add to the illusion by accepting it as real in our own private
universes. [/quote]
Our difference appears to be in what we believe the Divine Mind
projects. You appear to believe that it projects both good and
evil. I say it projects only Good since having God project evil
would make evil real since only what God has created is real and
we read that God saw that everything He created was very good.
God is Infinite Good, Perfect Good in my paradigm. Jesus said to
be Perfect like God is Perfect. Shall we have evil in us as part
of this projection? Shall we have error in the math table?
There's no room for even a stitch of evil in Perfect Good, just
as there's no room for 2x2=5 in the math table. Yes, there are
2s and 5s (God's creation) in it, but they're thought of
improperly so that they end in evil/error/lies. Evil, rather, is
projected by the chosen, imagined carnal mind, itself unreal
since God is not the author of evil. As Truth, He is its precise
opposite, its antidote. As I said, Truth extinguishes something
which appears to be very real to many but isn't at all, the lie.
God is Omnipresent Truth so how can evil or errors be actual?
There is none other but God/Good All-in-All, not God with a
little bit of evil in the All-in-All. We're like this, eating
from the dual tree instead of the Tree of Life (Perfect Good):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzsDuWeg2-c
It's Spirit which has substance, reality.
para . . . .
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