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| FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 17, 2017, 9:02 am | |
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| (Very sing-songy) Oh-la-la! | |
| The dust has settled on all of the qualifiers. 31 nations plus | |
| the host. Here is a non-expert fan's understanding of the | |
| qualified nations and a key :P for any interested: | |
| HF: Heavy Favourite | |
| C: Contender | |
| DH: Dark Horse | |
| TFC: Thanks For Coming (Doubtful) but I could be all wrong. | |
| I don't mean to disparage any nation's team by the TFC. I could | |
| be wrong by my designation. It's a long, tough process to | |
| qualify and I think that all teams should get a round of | |
| applause just for making it to Russia. | |
| The (C:) means Coach:. I've not included whole team rosters, | |
| just some notables from the top of my head for each team. I have | |
| missed several for each team. Full rosters can be found on the | |
| net. | |
| CONCACAF (North America, South America, and Caribbean) (35 | |
| member nations): | |
| Mexico (El Tri) C (C: Juan Carlos Osorio/Colombia), Javier | |
| "Chicharito" Hernandez (West Ham United), Andres Guardado (Real | |
| Betis), Hector Herrera (Porto), Carlos Vela (Real Sociedad) | |
| The strongest of the CONCACAF qualified. Can get to the semi's | |
| at least. I'm pulling for them since no teams of CONCACAF have | |
| won a World Cup. Can play beautifully. | |
| Costa Rica (La Sele/Ticos) DH (C: Oscar Ramirez/Costa Rica), | |
| Keylor Navas (Real Madrid starting keeper), Bryan Ruiz (Sporting | |
| Lisbon), Joel Campbell (Real Betis), David Ramirez (Saprissa) | |
| Four times to the World Cup. A thorn in most CONCACAF sides. | |
| When they're good they can be very good. Could be a thorn in | |
| some big sides. | |
| Panama (Los Canaleros) TFC (C: Hernan Gomez/Colombia), Armando | |
| Cooper (Toronto FC), Felipe Badoy (Municipal), Rom�n Torres | |
| (Seattle Sounders) | |
| First time to World Cup. The most physical of CONCACAF teams but | |
| team needs more than that. | |
| Disappointments: | |
| Canada - Perennial losers who have been to this tournament once | |
| with no goals and no wins. Speaks for itself. It's all to do. | |
| Behind the 8-ball globally even though it wants to be a global | |
| leader otherwise. Mine fury has been tempered somewhat by new | |
| coach and improved performances. I'm not sorry, hockey is not | |
| the global game, soccer is. | |
| USA - Been to World Cup about nine times. Debacle in final game | |
| v minnow Trinidad and Tobago. (See Bruuuuuuuuuuce thread). Team | |
| needs invigoration. At least they understand the sporting | |
| import. They have to play less like dour MLS pros and more like | |
| teenagers thrown the keys to Dad's car. Invaluable experience | |
| for Christian Pulisic and other youngsters gone missing. One of | |
| two strongest CONCACAF members. | |
| Jamaica - A physical and fast team. Did not gel enough. No Andre | |
| Blake - keeper, Kevon Lambert, Dane Kelly this time around. been | |
| once to World Cup. | |
| CONMEBOL (South America) (10 member nations): | |
| Brazil (La Selecao/The Selection), HF (C: Adenor "Tite" | |
| Bucci/Brazil), Neymar Jr. (PSG), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Paulinho | |
| (FC Barcelona), Dani Alves (PSG), Gabriel Jesus (Manchester | |
| City), Casemiro (Real Madrid) | |
| Flamboyant, attacking football of the highest order. They will | |
| be looking to avenge their disastrous Rio campaign when they | |
| were humiliated by the Germans. Weakness: Get carded somewhat | |
| much I think. Have to stay focused. Brazil is a must-see team | |
| for neutrals and fans alike. 5X WC winners. | |
| Argentina (La Albiceleste/Sky Blue), C (C: Jorge | |
| Sampaoli/Argentina) Angel Di Maria (PSG), Paolo Dybala | |
| (Juventus), Sergio Romero (Man U), Javier Mascherano (FC | |
| Barcelona), Nicolas Otamendi (Manchester City), Sergio Aguero | |
| (Manchester City), Lionel Messi (FC Barcelona) | |
| 2x WC winners who were in the final match v Germany last WC and | |
| lost by a goal. They were easily Germany's match. They have | |
| failed to gel and are too Messi-dependent in their qualifiers, | |
| so I have downgraded them to contender. This team owes Lionel | |
| Messi their best performances since he is hugely responsible for | |
| their entry to Russia. If they play as they are capable of | |
| playing as a team, they would be heavy favourites to win it. The | |
| team I would like most to see win this time around. On paper, | |
| the talent is overwhelming but football is played on the pitch. | |
| Colombia (Los Cafeteros/The Coffee Growers) C (C: Jose | |
| Pekerman/Colombia), David Ospina - K (Arsenal), Radamel Falcao | |
| (Monaco), James Rodriguez (Bayern Munich), Juan Cuadrado | |
| (Juventus), Gustavo Cu�llar (Flamengo, Luis Muriel (Sevilla) | |
| A solid, decent attacking team that could go the distance. | |
| Falcao is in form and dangerous in the box. So is James who left | |
| Real Madrid for more playing time at Bayern. Six World Cup | |
| appearances. | |
| Uruguay (Los Charruas/Indigenous Peoples) C (C: Oscar | |
| Tabarez/Uruguay), Edinson Cavani (PSG), Luis Suarez (FC | |
| Barcelona), Diego Godin (Atletico Madrid), Gaston Pereiro (PSV) | |
| 2X WC winners. Maybe Luis Suarez will be in form then. They'll | |
| make a decent run. Maybe all the way to the final. They're tough | |
| footballers. Cavani is poison to keepers most times. Suarez | |
| tricky in the box. | |
| Peru (Los Incas) DH (C: Ricardo Gareca/Argentina), Paolo | |
| Guerrero (Flamengo), Jefferson Farfan (Lokomotiv Moscow), Andre | |
| Carillo (Watford) | |
| This team plays the beautiful game. Small and speedy. Great | |
| skill. A must-see for neutrals and fans. They can run rings | |
| around opponents and run for miles. Played the very last | |
| qualifying game of all qualifiers v New Zealand to punch their | |
| ticket to Russia. When they won their last game to advance, the | |
| next day was declared a national holiday. Soccer mad fans. Five | |
| World Cup appearances. | |
| Disappointments: | |
| Chile - Plays the beautiful game. Unbelievable that they aren't | |
| in Russia but CONMEBOL is so tough, it could have been Argentina | |
| out as well. A big bummer for me because they are so great to | |
| watch, win or lose. Tears of misery for me. They were my pick to | |
| pretty much go to the final since they won the last two Copa | |
| America(s) v Argentina and they did very well in the | |
| Confederations Cup last summer. Nine World Cup appearances. No | |
| Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal), Fabi�n Orellana (Valencia), Arturo | |
| Vidal (Bayern Munich), Claudio Bravo (Manchester City via FC | |
| Barcelona) among other notables this time around. | |
| Any other South American team. | |
| UEFA (Europe) (55 member nations): | |
| Portugal (A Selecao) HF (C: Fernando Santos/Portugal), Ricardo | |
| Quaresma (Besiktas), Nani (Lazio), Cedric Soares (Southampton), | |
| Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid), Bernardo Silva (Manchester | |
| City) | |
| Euro 2016 winners. I bumped them up to heavy favourites since | |
| when they are in form, they can do some heavy damage, especially | |
| if Cristiano is in the groove. So talented the entire team. It | |
| could be their time. | |
| France (Les Bleues) HF (C: Didier Deschamps/France), Antoine | |
| Griezmann (Atletico Madrid), Kylian Mbappe (PSG), Adrian Rabiot | |
| (PSG), Paul Pogba (Man United), Olivier Giroud (Arsenal), | |
| Dimitri Payet (Marseille), Raphael Varane (Real Madrid) | |
| 1X WC winners. An incredible array of talent. Wonderful to | |
| watch. It just might be their time. I would not be surprised if | |
| they were finalists. | |
| Poland (The White and Red), DH, (C: Adam Nawalka/Poland) Lukasz | |
| Fabianski (Swansea), Wojciech Szczęsny (Juventus - keeper), | |
| Roberty Lewandowki (Bayern Munich), Grzegorz Krychowiak (West | |
| Bromwich-Albion), Arkadiusz Milik (Juventus) | |
| I really don't know what to make of this team. They're | |
| physically strong and Lewandowski is a striker supreme. They | |
| always come out strong but then seem to fade. They could push on | |
| through to the semi's. Eight World Cup appearances. | |
| England (The Three Lions) C (C: Gareth Southgate/England), Joe | |
| Hart (West Ham United - keeper), Jamie Vardy (Leicester City), | |
| Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Raheem Sterling (Manchester | |
| City), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Dele Alli (Tottenham | |
| Hotspur), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), Marcus Rashford (Manchester | |
| United) | |
| 1X World Cup winners So much talent. A sentimental favourite of | |
| mine. A nation where my Dad picked up his tea habit. Pitchers of | |
| it. Tears of joy if they go all the way. | |
| Denmark (The Red-White) TFC, (C: �ge Hareide/Norway), Kasper | |
| Schmeichel (Leicester City), Christian Eriksen (Tottenham | |
| Hotspur) | |
| Ya, a spoiler team. Eriksen a good through-baller. Five World | |
| Cup appearances. That's all I can say for now. | |
| Serbia (The Eagles) TFC (C: Mladen Krstajić | |
| (caretaker)/Serbia), Dusan Tadic (Southampton), Nemanja Matic | |
| (Manchester United), Alexander Kolarov (Roma), Nemanja Radoja | |
| (Celta de Vigo) | |
| A tough, talented, physical team. Sometimes too physical. | |
| Possible downfall: Too many cards against them. Hoping they've | |
| learned. Finished top of their group in qualifiers. Twelve World | |
| Cup appearances. | |
| Spain (La Furia Roja/The Red Fury) HF, (C: Julen | |
| Lopetegui/Spain), David De Gea (Manchester United - keeper), | |
| David Silva (Manchester City), Andres Iniesta (FC Barcelona), | |
| Alvaro Morata (Chelsea via Real Madrid), Iker Casillas (Porto - | |
| Keeper), Isco (Real Madrid), Sergio Busquets (FC Barcelona), | |
| Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Gerard Pique (FC Barcelona), Jordi | |
| Alba (FC Barcelona), Marco Asensio (Real Madrid) | |
| An embarrassment of riches. Should be finalists. Play the | |
| beautiful game. Another team I'd like to see win. If Lionel | |
| Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo were on this team, just hand the cup | |
| to Spain. 1X World Cup winner. | |
| Iceland (Str�karnir okkar/Our Boys), TFC (C: Heimir | |
| Hallgr�msson/Iceland), Gylfi Sigur�sson (Everton via Swansea) | |
| A spoiler and overachiever as a soccer nation. All hail Iceland! | |
| It would be wonderful if they got to the semis at least. That | |
| the spirit, Icelanders! Canada, land of permafrost, you hear? | |
| First time appearance in World Cup. How exciting :)! You've got | |
| all the sporting hipsters pulling for you! | |
| Belgium (De Rode Duivels/The Red Devils), C (C: Roberto | |
| Martinez/Spain), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Thibaut Courtois - | |
| keeper (Chelsea), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham Hotspur), Romelu | |
| Lukaku (Manchester United), Radja Nainggolan (Roma), Yannick | |
| Carrasco (Atletico Madrid), Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City), | |
| Thomas Vermaelen (FC Barcelona), Thomas Meunier (PSG), Mousa | |
| Demb�l� (Tottenham) | |
| A team loaded with talent, especially Hazard, Carrasco and | |
| Lukaku. Almost had them at HF. Might surprise me. Thirteen World | |
| Cup appearances) | |
| Croatia (Vatreni/The Fire Blazers) C, (C: Zlatko | |
| Dalić/Croatia), Luka Modric (Real Madrid), Ivan Rakitic (FC | |
| Barcelona), Ivan Peri�ić (Inter-Milan), Marcelo | |
| Brozović (Inter-Milan), Nikola Kalinić (AC Milan), | |
| Mario Mand�ukić (Juventus), Dejan Lovren (Liverpool) | |
| Another team loaded with midfield talent. Up-and-coming. Can | |
| threaten all. Fearless. Five World Cup appearances. | |
| Germany (Die Mannschaft/The Team), HF, (C: Joachim L�w/Germany), | |
| Manuel Neuer-Keeper (Bayern Munich), Marc-Andre Ter | |
| Stegen-Keeper (FC Barcelona), Joshua Kimmich (Bayern Munich), | |
| Thomas M�ller (Bayern Munich), Mario G�mez (Wolfsburg), Andr� | |
| Sch�rrle (Borussia Dortmund), Shkodran Mustafi (Arsenal), Tony | |
| Kroos (Real Madrid), mesut Ozil (Arsenal), Emre Can (Liverpool) | |
| Current reigning World Cup Champions 2014-2018, 4X World Cup | |
| winners. Technical. Talented. Tactical. Like watching eleven | |
| university soccer coaches/instructors teaching how each position | |
| ought to be played. Tough physically. No nonsense. Make few | |
| errors with and without the ball. The total better than its | |
| parts. Could win again. I thought that they might be weaker than | |
| at Rio in '14 but they won the Confederations Cup this year with | |
| an experimental side. Ruthless at times. The team to be reckoned | |
| with. | |
| Switzerland (Schweizer Nati /Swiss nationals), TFC, (C: Vladimir | |
| Petkovic/SFR Yugoslavia), Xherdan Shaqiri (Stoke City), Granit | |
| Xhaka (Arsenal), Admir Mehmedi (Bayer Leverkeusen), Ricardo | |
| Rodr�guez (AC Milan), Haris Seferović (Benfica) | |
| Energetic, speedy. Entertaining to watch. Goals don't come easy. | |
| Play hard. Ten World Cup appearances. | |
| Sweden (The Blue-Yellow) TFC (C: Janne Andersson/Sweden), | |
| Alexander Isak (Borussia Dortmund), Victor Lindel�f (Manchester | |
| United), John Guidetti (Celta de Vigo) | |
| Defensive, tactical. Big-size players. Have to hand it to coach | |
| for putting out Italy tactically. Twelve World Cup appearances. | |
| Russia (The National Team) TFC (C: Stanislav Cherchesov/Russia), | |
| Igor Akinfeev-Keeper (CSKA Moscow), Igor Smolnikov (Zenit-St. | |
| Petersburg), Fyodor Smolov (Krasnodar), Aleksandr Kokorin | |
| (Zenit-St. Petersburg) | |
| Will play energetically for home crowds and give most teams a | |
| run. Could make it out of group stage. A super keeper. Fyodor | |
| Smolov hell on wheels. Needs to be marked carefully. | |
| Disappointments: | |
| Italy: 4X World Cup winners. The shock of the qualifiers. | |
| Doesn't seem like a World Cup without the Azzurri but no nation | |
| has the divine right for entry. They are at their best when | |
| they're there. No one wants to play them in the WC. I celebrated | |
| with them in Little Italy's streets in Toronto when they won in | |
| 1982. Amazing. | |
| The Netherlands (The Orange/Clockwork Orange): The British | |
| invented the game but the Dutch made it beautiful. Incredible | |
| that they have done so poorly the last years. No Arjen Robben | |
| (Bayern Munich) for one. Amazing to watch when in form and | |
| playing the short-pass. | |
| Ireland: The Boys in Green/Green Army try so hard and so does | |
| their coach, Martin O'Neill. Notably missing will be Shane Long | |
| (Southampton), Ciaran Clark (Newcastle United), S�amus Coleman | |
| (Everton). Three World Cup appearances. Great fans. | |
| Slovenia: Minnows yes but for sentimental reasons since my Mum | |
| was born in a Ljubljana neighbourhood. Their parts appear to be | |
| better than their total. They have two of the better keepers in | |
| world football in Jan Oblak (Atletico Madrid) and Samir | |
| Handanovic (Inter-Milan). Next time, Slovence. Two World Cup | |
| appearances. | |
| Austria: Seven World Cup appearances. Again, for sentimental | |
| reasons. My Mum's adopted nation and last known Euro residence | |
| (W�rthersee-Carinthia). A real Austrian "Heidi". She tried to | |
| teach me German, Momma tried :) . . . . | |
| (Continued next page) | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16751-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 19, 2017, 12:58 pm | |
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| CAF (Africa) (56 member nations) | |
| Tunisia (The Eagles of Carthage), ? (C: Nabil Ma�loul/Tunisia), | |
| Bassem Srarfi (Nice), Oussama Haddadi (Dijon), Aymen Abdennour | |
| (Marseille) | |
| Can't say that I've seen this team play but they've won some | |
| African Championships and were tough on Germany and Mexico. I | |
| think this is their fourth WC tournament. Good luck, Tunisia! On | |
| second thought, I could have seen this team play. I watch so | |
| much soccer that's available to me, sometimes I get things mixed | |
| up (players, clubs, nations, etc.) | |
| Morocco (The Lions of Atlas) TFC, (C: Herv� Renard/France), | |
| Yassine Bounou (Girona), Medhi Benatia (Juventus), Achraf Hakimi | |
| (Real Madrid), Youn�s Belhanda (Galatasaray), Nordin Amrabat | |
| (Leganes), Sofiane Boufal (Southampton), Oussama Tannane (Las | |
| Palmas) | |
| Some very talented players, especially Sofiane Boufal who I | |
| think needs to start more at Southampton. A tactical, stingy, | |
| defensive team. Sort of like Costa Rica. Their coach has them in | |
| very good form last game I watched. I could be very wrong with | |
| my rating here and I hope I am. They could be contenders and | |
| surprise me. Go, Morocco! | |
| Egypt (The Pharaohs), TFC, (C: H�ctor C�per/Argentina), Ahmed | |
| Elmohamady (Aston Villa), Mohamed Elneny (Arsenal), Mohamed | |
| Salah (Liverpool), Ahmed El Sheikh (Al Ahly), Ahmed Hegazi (West | |
| Bromwich-Albion) | |
| Okay, some talented players, no doubt. Who would not want | |
| Mohamed Salah on their team? One of the better African teams. I | |
| give them more of a chance of advancing than Tunisia but | |
| contenders? I can't say. Surprise me, Egypt! Go, Mo! So much joy | |
| watching you play in Serie A, EPL, and your nation. Imagine how | |
| your country will celebrate if you win it all. Dancing in the | |
| streets! Sweets for all! A national holiday declared! | |
| Nigeria (Super Eagles), C, (C: Salisu Yusuf/Nigeria), Victor | |
| Moses (Chelsea), Isaac Success (Watford), Alex Iwobi (Arsenal), | |
| Kelechi Iheanacho (Leicester City), Ahmed Musa (Leicester City) | |
| A physical and quick team with talented players. Have been to | |
| the World Cup six times. Victor Moses speedy and great on the | |
| ball. So too Iheanacho. I think that they're the strongest of | |
| the African competitors. Could get into semis at least. | |
| Senegal (The Lions of Teranga), C (C: Aliou Ciss�/Senegal), | |
| Cl�ment Diop - keeper (LA Galaxy), Kara Mbodji (Anderlecht), | |
| Kalidou Koulibaly (Napoli), Cheikhou Kouyat� (Napoli), Diafra | |
| Sakho (West Ham United), Sadio Man� (Liverpool), Keita Bald� | |
| (Monaco) | |
| I've upgraded this group from TFC to C only because I think that | |
| next to Nigeria they can do some damage with their great talent. | |
| I hope they contend. They are super fast and great to watch. | |
| Disappointments: | |
| Ivory Coast: They were so tough in the last decade but appear to | |
| have faded. I watched their last qualifier and others and the | |
| speed's just not there. They were physical and tough to play | |
| against. | |
| Burkina Faso: The team that impressed me most in the qualifiers | |
| at least with their energetic play. I'd have liked to see them | |
| finally there. | |
| Ghana: Reached the quarter finals last World Cup. Strong in | |
| Africa. No Thomas Partey (Atletico Madrid), Andr� Ayew (West Ham | |
| United), Jonathan Mensah (Colombus Crew) | |
| Cameroon: Seven World Cup appearances (more than any other | |
| African nation). They are won of the top African sides. Don't | |
| know what happened here. Africa Cup of Nations Champion 2017. | |
| AFC (Asia) (47 member nations) | |
| Japan (Samurai Blue), TFC, (C: Vahid Halilhod�ić/Bosnia | |
| and Herzegovina), Shinji Kagawa (Borussia Dortmund), Shinji | |
| Okazaki (Leicester City), Maya Yoshida (Southampton), Yūto | |
| Nagatomo (Inter-Milan) | |
| I've only see this team play about two or three times over the | |
| years. I think it's been to the WC about four or five times. | |
| They hosted one year with South Korea. I watch their players in | |
| Euro clubs. They work hard. | |
| Iran (Team Melli), ?, (C: Carlos Queiroz/Portugal), . . . . | |
| . . . . . . . . . . . . | |
| Beats me. I don't know this team and I've never seen them play. | |
| Hey, it's like I'm watching the WC back when I watched it the | |
| very first time. All these strange players I thought just | |
| appeared every four years. I thought that they just played | |
| solely for their national teams and hibernated or practised | |
| together between World Cups. Anyway, they've been to the World | |
| Cup five times but failed to get out of their group each time. | |
| Could be a TFC but, entertain me, Iran! Let's have some fun! | |
| South Korea (Taegeuk Warriors), TFC, (C: Shin Tae-yong/South | |
| Korea), Ki Sung-yueng (Swansea), Son Heung-min (Tottenham | |
| Hotspur), Park Joo-ho (Borussia Dortmund), Lee Chung-yong | |
| (Crystal Palace) | |
| I've seen them play several times over the years. Speedy. Been | |
| to the WC lots of times. Best in Asia. Should be moving up to C | |
| soon. | |
| Saudi Arabia (Green Falcons), ? (C: Edgardo Bauza/Argentina), . | |
| . . . . . . . . . . | |
| Likely TFC. Been to the WC four times in a row. An improving | |
| nation. One of the best in Asia. Bauza couldn't do much with | |
| Argentina lately, so interesting to see what happens here. I | |
| think I've seen them play two times. I think they wore white | |
| each time and pretty individually talented. Almost every player | |
| plays in Saudi Arabia with one on the Virginia Cavaliers in the | |
| USA. So, exotic to me. | |
| Australia (The Socceroos), C, (C: Ange | |
| Postecoglou/Australia-Greece), Mathew Ryan - keeper (Brighton | |
| and Hove Albion), Aaron Mooy (Huddersfield Town), Mile Jedinak | |
| (Aston Villa), Massimo Luongo (Queens Park Rangers), Tom Rogic | |
| (Celtic), Brad Smith (Bournemouth) | |
| A tough, entertaining team that will give many a really hard | |
| time. I bumped them up to C because all that hard work's gotta | |
| pay off sooner or later. Been to the WC five times. Strong in | |
| OFC. Left OFC for AFC in 2006. | |
| OFC (Oceania) (11 member nations) | |
| None Qualified TFC. They are alloted 0.5 spots to qualify which | |
| means it's a playoff spot for one team to advance. New Zealand | |
| were put out by Peru. NZ (The All-Whites) has two World Cup | |
| appearances. They only have semi-professional leagues. Their top | |
| players play abroad notably, Winston Reid (West Ham United), | |
| Chris Wood (Burnley), James Musa (Sporting Kansas City). | |
| Come on, Oceania! Nice weather all year around in the South | |
| Pacific. Good luck next time New Zealand. | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16760-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 20, 2017, 1:56 pm | |
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| Next: The draw for the eight groups of four at the State Palace | |
| in the Kremlin (December 1, 2017): | |
| https://www.rusalia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Mapa-del-Kremlin-en-Ingl%C3%… | |
| https://s.inyourpocket.com/gallery/59481.jpg | |
| http://budgettravelrussia.com/Technicals/images/state%20kremlin%20palace.jpg | |
| The pots: | |
| POT 1: Russia, Germany, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Belgium, | |
| Poland, France | |
| POT 2: Spain, Peru, Switzerland, England, Colombia, Mexico, | |
| Uruguay, Croatia | |
| POT 3: Denmark, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, Tunisia, Egypt, | |
| Senegal, Iran | |
| POT 4: Serbia, Nigeria, Australia, Japan, Morocco, Panama, South | |
| Korea, Saudi Arabia | |
| http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2017/m=11/news=pots-announced-for-final-dra… | |
| http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2017/m=11/news=pots-announced-for-final-dra… | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16764-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: Kerry Date: November 21, 2017, 5:53 am | |
| --------------------------------------------------------- | |
| So what are the odds? I found this list. Judging by these | |
| odds, it's likely to be Brazil, Germany, France, Spain or | |
| Argentina. | |
| https://www.skybet.com/football/world-cup-2018/event/16742642 | |
| Brazil 5/1 | |
| Germany 5/1 | |
| France 11/2 | |
| Spain 13/2 | |
| Argentina 8/1 | |
| Belgium 14/1 | |
| England 20/1 | |
| Portugal 25/1 | |
| Croatia 33/1 | |
| Russia 33/1 | |
| Uruguay 40/1 | |
| Colombia 50/1 | |
| Switzerland 50/1 | |
| Poland 66/1 | |
| Mexico 80/1 | |
| Sweden 80/1 | |
| Denmark 100/1 | |
| Japan 100/1 | |
| Serbia 100/1 | |
| Nigeria 150/1 | |
| Iran 150/1 | |
| Senegal 200/1 | |
| Morocco 200/1 | |
| Iceland 200/1 | |
| Costa Rica 250/1 | |
| Peru 250/1 | |
| South Korea 250/1 | |
| Egypt 300/1 | |
| Australia 300/1 | |
| Tunisia 500/1 | |
| Saudi Arabia 1000/1 | |
| Panama 1000/1 | |
| I found a list of the odds before Italy dropped out. | |
| http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/20991480/soccer-odds-win-2018-fifa-world-c… | |
| They had Italy's odds at 15/1 and Sweden's at 150/1. | |
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| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 21, 2017, 11:17 am | |
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| Kerry - | |
| Ya, the odds pretty much go by way of the pots with the better | |
| ranked nations (excluding the host) seeded in POT 1. I think | |
| some of them depend also on the group draw. There's usually a | |
| "group of death" where some heavy favourites or contenders come | |
| together to knock one another out. Here are some scenarios: | |
| http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2744172-ranking-possible-world-cup-groups-of… | |
| http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2744172-ranking-possible-world-cup-groups-of… | |
| Sometimes there are twists and turns, after all, | |
| unpredictability can be entertainment as well. | |
| I don't get to see all the games, just those I can that are | |
| available for me. It's entertainment after all and I'd probably | |
| feel that way if my native land were in it as well even though I | |
| get to see other nations' flags waved out of car windows again | |
| this summer. I have a nice Austria ball-cap I wore during the | |
| Euros last year but they got knocked out of that one early | |
| enough. I won't be waving any other nation's flag or wearing | |
| their kit for the World Cup. The Euro was a kind of heritage | |
| thing since Canada doesn't participate in that one. Who knows? I | |
| just might get a Mexico cap for fun. | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16774-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 21, 2017, 12:23 pm | |
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| The Refs: | |
| http://refereeingworld.blogspot.ca/2017/11/fifa-world-cup-2018-referees.html | |
| http://refereeingworld.blogspot.ca/2017/11/fifa-world-cup-2018-referees.html | |
| Unbelievable that Mark Clattenburg: | |
| http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/mcs/media/images/63776000/jpg/_6377697… | |
| and other EPL Refs aren't there. They're usually of the | |
| no-nonsense mode. | |
| *Addendum: I just discovered that Clattenburg quit the EPL for | |
| Saudi Arabia and they have a ref shortlisted already. | |
| I like Milorad Mazic of Serbia: | |
| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Milorad_Ma%C5%BEi%C4%… | |
| and Damir Skomina of Slovenia: | |
| http://sport.bt.com/images/europa-league-final-ref-skomina-has-previous-with-un… | |
| as refs. They're usually pretty fair. | |
| They're meeting November 25-29 to discuss things. | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16777-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: Kerry Date: November 22, 2017, 6:34 am | |
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| I have questions about how the teams will be picked; but first I | |
| have questions about the qualifiers. It seems that European and | |
| South American countries have some advantages. | |
| There are 54 countries in EUFA, divided into 9 groups of 6 teams | |
| each. At any rate, there are 9 teams which won inside their | |
| group and 4 which are called "play-off winners." I'm not | |
| counting Russia the host country. That gives each team within | |
| EUFA a 24.1% chance of going to the World Cup. | |
| South America really has it made with 10 teams. Four winners go | |
| to the World Cup, and one plays against the best team from | |
| Oceania. Call that 4 1/2 teams. That's a 45% rate. Oceania | |
| has 11 teams, none of whom go automatically to the World Cup -- | |
| no, they have to play against the team that came in 5th in South | |
| America. So that's 1/2 out of 20. That's a mere 5%. | |
| North America has 35 teams, only 3 go to the World Cup -- with | |
| another 1/2 if the 4th ranked country wins against an Asian in | |
| that play-off. That means the odds are 10%. Africa with | |
| its 53 countries gets 5 spots at the World Cup -- a 9.4% | |
| chance. Asia is similarly hard to qualify in with 46 members | |
| and 4 slots at the World Cup or 5 if an Asian beats a North | |
| American team -- a 9.8% chance. | |
| So let me arrange them by percentage: | |
| South America 45% | |
| Europe 24.1% | |
| North America 10% | |
| Asia 9.8% | |
| Africa 9.4% | |
| Oceania 5% | |
| If you're from Oceania, the odds of going to the World Cup is | |
| one ninth that of a South American country. I suppose these | |
| differences might be quality of the players from the countries | |
| as well as economic factors. Still the discrepancies seem | |
| really big to me. | |
| #Post#: 16778-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 22, 2017, 8:29 am | |
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| Kerry - | |
| This is entertainment, not a world of soccer equals. The South | |
| Americans and UEFA have better coefficient rankings and are | |
| simply better to watch than some other regions. When these | |
| regions improve, things will look less lop-sided hopefully. A | |
| greater number of Oceania teams probably don't want to be | |
| humiliated at this tournament. Still, I think Sepp called for | |
| more Asian spots and the tournament will expand to 48 in 2026. | |
| Some have complained of a water-down effect if so. It appears to | |
| be a balancing act between entertaining and opportunity. | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16781-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 22, 2017, 4:46 pm | |
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| The draw assistants for the groups have been announced by FIFA. | |
| The draw conductor is Gary Lineker, England's World Cup top | |
| scorer (striker). Helping him are: | |
| Laurent Blanc: Coach of PSG before Unai Emery. World Cup winner | |
| with France 1998 (defender). | |
| Gordon Banks: Six times FIFA keeper of the year, World Cup | |
| winner (England) 1966. | |
| Cafu: Defender; World Cup Winner with Brazil 1994, 2002 | |
| Fabio Cannavaro: 2006 FIFA World Cup winner with Italy | |
| (center-back) | |
| Diego Forlan: FIFA World Cup Golden Ball: 2010; FIFA World Cup | |
| Top Scorer: 2010 (Uruguay); Golden Ball Award best player 2010 | |
| World Cup. | |
| Diego Maradona : FIFA Player of the 20th Century with Pel�; FIFA | |
| World Cup 1986 (Argentina); Other awards too numerous to | |
| mention. Attacking midfielder. A football legend. | |
| *In 2018, a documentary film titled Maradona is to be released | |
| by Academy Award and BAFTA Award winning filmmaker Asif Kapadia, | |
| director of Amy (on singer Amy Winehouse) and Senna (on motor | |
| racing driver Ayrton Senna). Kapadia states, "Maradona is the | |
| third part of a trilogy about child geniuses and fame." He | |
| added, "I was fascinated by his journey, wherever he went there | |
| were moments of incredible brilliance and drama. He was a | |
| leader, taking his teams to the very top, but also many lows in | |
| his career. He was always the little guy fighting against the | |
| system... and he was willing to do anything, to use all of his | |
| cunning and intelligence to win.": | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Maradona | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Maradona | |
| Carles Puyol: World Cup winner 2010 with Spain; FC Barcelona | |
| right-back legend (1999-2014) | |
| Nikita Simonyan: Armenian by heritage; played in old Soviet | |
| Union; Spartak Moscow - Soviet Top League (4): 1952, 1953, 1956, | |
| 1958; Soviet Cup (2): 1950, 1958; Soviet Top League Top | |
| Goalscorer (3): 1949 (26 goals), 1950 (34 goals), 1953 (14 | |
| goals) 233 matches, 133 goals; Manager: Spartak Moscow: Soviet | |
| Top League (2): 1962, 1969; Soviet Cup (3): 1963, 1965, 1971 | |
| Draw co-hosted by Russian journalist, Maria Komandnaya: | |
| https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4934207/world-cup-2018-draw-maria-komandnaya/ | |
| https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4934207/world-cup-2018-draw-maria-komandnaya/ | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 16787-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: FIFA World Cup (Men) Russia 2018 | |
| By: paralambano Date: November 23, 2017, 12:00 pm | |
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| World Cup Prize Money (USD): | |
| Winner 2014 - 35,000,000 | |
| Winner 2018 - 38,000,000 | |
| Runner-up 2014 - 25,000,000 | |
| Runner-up 2018 - 28,000,000 | |
| Third 2014 - 22,000,000 | |
| Third 2018 - 24,000,000 | |
| Fourth 2014 - 20,000,000 | |
| Fourth 2018 - 22,000,000 | |
| 5th-8th 2014 - 14,000,000 per team - Total - 56,000,000 | |
| (Quarter-finals) | |
| 5th-8th 2018 - 16,000,000 per team - Total - 64,000,000 | |
| (Quarter-finals) | |
| 9th-16th 2014 - 9,000,000 per team - Total - 72,000,000 (Group | |
| of 16) | |
| 9th-16th 2018 - 12,000,000 per team - Total - 96,000,000 (Group | |
| of 16) | |
| 17th-32nd 2014 - 8,000,000 per team - Total - 128,000,000 (Group | |
| stage) | |
| 17th-32nd 2018 - 8,000,000 per team - Total - 128,000,000 (Group | |
| stage) | |
| TOTAL 2014: $358,000,000 | |
| TOTAL 2018: $400,000,000: | |
| http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/news/y=2017/m=10/news=fifa-council-confirms-cont… | |
| http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/news/y=2017/m=10/news=fifa-council-confirms-cont… | |
| para . . . . | |
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