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#Post#: 12835--------------------------------------------------
Colin Kaepernick
By: Kerry Date: August 30, 2016, 12:22 pm
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Is Colin Kaepernick serious? He's making millions of dollars
and he thinks the US is a terrible country for black people?
I find it hard to take him too seriously. Maybe he's just
trying to get attention. He is getting attention if that's his
plan.
From Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/29/nfl-players-blast-kaepernicks-decision…
[quote]Former teammate Alex Boone isn�t taking any more hits for
embattled San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
The offensive guard suited up for five seasons alongside
Kaepernick, blocking as defenders tried to get Kaepernick off
his feet. Now, Kaepernick is voluntarily taking a seat, choosing
to sit during the playing of The Star-Spangled Banner to protest
perceived racial injustice. It may be a good thing that Boone,
now with the Minnesota Vikings, is no longer wearing the same
jersey as Kaepernick.
�We probably would have had a problem on the sideline,� Boone
told ESPN.
Boone�s brother J.J. was a Marine and served in Iraq, making
Boone one of several current or former NFL players, many with
military connections, to speak out about Kaepernick following
his second sitdown before a preseason game on Friday.
�You should have some f---ing respect for people who served,
especially people that lost their life to protect our freedom,"
Boone said. �We're out here playing a game, making millions of
dollars. People are losing their life, and you don't have the
common courtesy to do that. That just drove me nuts.�
Carolina Panthers coach Ron Rivera is the son of an Army officer
and lived on military bases most of his young life. His father,
Eugenio Rivera, served two tours of duty in Vietnam.
�To me, it�s a very personal thing because of my dad, his
military background, knowing that his family and my mom�s family
served in the military,� Rivera told Black and Blue Review.
�My view is [the anthem] is about honoring the people that
served and made the commitment to our country, some who even
made the ultimate sacrifice. When I stand, that's what I'm
standing for. I'm standing for the people that came before my
father and the people that came after him.�
Burgess Owens, a safety who played ten seasons in the NFL, said
Kaepernick is �ignorant� about American history, and even black
history.
�What this young man doesn�t understand is the very first martyr
for freedom in our country was a black man, he doesn�t
understand the Tuskegee airmen, who had hundreds of battles over
the skies of Germany so he can sit and be ignorant as he wants
to be today,� Owens told �Fox & Friends.�[/quote]
I also can't see how Kaepernick protesting is going to change
anything. He can sit the rest of his life, and what would that
change? It's a gesture lacking power but perhaps meant to
offend? What has he done to make life better for other black
people, I wonder? Has he done anything to help solve the
problems of poverty and crime in black neighborhoods?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: paralambano Date: August 31, 2016, 8:21 am
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Kerry -
We'll see what he might do next. If nothing, then it's the
attention I think. He got mine for about 20s (media has a way of
finding me) 'cause I never even ever heard of him before and I'm
pretty sure he hasn't heard of me.
para . . . .
#Post#: 12841--------------------------------------------------
Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Kerry Date: August 31, 2016, 5:00 pm
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I hadn't heard of him either; but I found out he has several
religious tattoos, and he kisses one of them during games to
"celebrate." From thevinepetaluma.org
http://www.thevinepetaluma.org/what-is-kaepernick-kissing/:
[quote]We�re hoping to see a lot of �Kaepernicking� in this
Sunday�s Super Bowl. If you�ve missed all the buzz in the NFL
lately, Kaepernicking (registered trademark) is when 49ers QB
Colin Kaepernick celebrates a touchdown by kissing the tattoo on
his bicep. If you�re like me, you were asking, �What is
Kaepernick kissing?� What does that tattoo say and why is the QB
wanting to attract attention to it? I found out.
When he was a sophomore at the University of Nevada, Colin
Kaepernick had the words of Psalm 27:3 inked onto his left arm:
�Though an army besiege me,
my heart will not fear;
though war break out against me,
even then I will be confident.�
The whole psalm is a good one. Of course, this raises the
theological question that is as old as athletic competition. Who
does God cheer for? Beyond that, does God control the outcome of
a game? In the Super Bowl, we�ll have Ray Lewis of the Ravens
yelling out, �God is so good!� and �No weapon fashioned against
us will stand� as if the Ravens are God�s team. I would simply
remind God that it�s easy to mouth the words of Scripture in an
interview. Inking the Word of God on your arm is a whole new
level of commitment. Go Niners! Amen.[/quote]
I find using the Bible like that is inappropriate. The context
seems lost on him. He should not be comparing himself playing a
football game to David whose life was in danger in war.
Now let me quote from another article I found at the
mercurynews.com
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_22450929/,
underlining two parts:
[quote]Some people document their lives through social media.
Kaepernick, the NFL's most sudden rising star, has taken the
more painful and artistic path to self-expression. That he's
drawing attention for his tattoos -- he has far more than the
average NFL quarterback -- as well as his sprinter's legs and
rifle arm, does not bother him.
"I got them for me and this is to show people this is what I
believe in," he said Thursday, as the 49ers prepared for next
week's Super Bowl in New Orleans.
- - - -
After that Kaepernick had Reno artist Nes Andrion tattoo two
hands clasped in prayer with the words "to God the glory" below
the psalm on his right biceps.
This is one of the tattoos -- the other reads "Faith" -- that
Kaepernick kisses in a celebration that has become known as
"Kaepernicking."
"Number one, it's my way of saying I don't really care what
people think about my tattoos," he said of the gesture. "God has
brought me this far. He has laid out a phenomenal path for me.
And I can't do anything but thank him."
[/quote]
I object to most open displays of religion. I objected too
to how Tim Tebow did what he did. I objected to what Serena
Williams says when she wins.
[quote]How has Williams balanced her faith and the winner�s
circle? It is a subject she and her sister Venus, also a tennis
star and former No. 1 player, have discussed only rarely. But
Serena Williams has left a trail of comments that show her
belief in God, and especially her identity as a Witness, has
bolstered her already formidable tennis talents.
�I have to thank Jehovah God for this,� Serena Williams told the
crowd after receiving the trophy at the Australian Open in
January, her sixth win there. �I was down and out and he helped
me today and I just said prayers, not to win but to be strong
and to be healthy and in the end I was able to come through so I
have to give the glory to him first and foremost.�[/quote]
So what does this mean? If she loses, does that mean Jehovah
wanted the other person to win? Did she also thank Jehovah
for having a body when she posed nude for ESPN? I understand
that the Jehovah's Witnesses weren't too happy about those
photos; but then I wonder too if maybe that was why she and her
sister Venus did so poorly at the Olympics? From Eurosport
http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/rio/2016/olympics-williams-sisters-crash-out-of…
[quote]After their loss, Serena was philosophical about the
result and preferred to focus on the success of one of the
greatest ever doubles pairings.
"I wouldn't stay it's devastating... we had a chance to compete
for our country, we did the best that we can. We had a blast out
there," Serena, 34, told reporters.
"We've had so many Olympic doubles golds, so many grand slam
championships. It's been unbelievable."[/quote]
Why not thank Jehovah for the loss? "In all things give
thanks!"
Back to Kaepernick, the mercurynews article says he was making
money selling t-shirts with the tattoos.
[quote]Kaepernick has used the recent attention to launch a
small clothing venture with Orly Locquiao, owner of Cukui in San
Jose's Japantown neighborhood.
They are selling T-shirts with representations of some of
Kaepernick's tattoos as well as his No. 7 jersey. Customers
lined up for 21/2 hours to buy $32 shirts the day before
the 49ers defeated the Atlanta Falcons.[/quote]
So if you don't care about how people think about them, why try
to make money selling representations of them on t-shirts?
I don't know. He might be sincere; but it doesn't seem that
important to me. Why not do something real to help
disadvantaged blacks instead of making gestures which upset
others?
Then again, I also don't know national anthems get played at
sports games. In the US, it makes a little sense, just a
little, since most of the players really are American citizens;
but what about players recruited from other countries to play on
American teams? Why should they stand for the American anthem?
In other countries, players also sometimes move around.
Me? I think people should stand at public events no matter
which national anthem is being played. If the Russians win a
medal and they play the Russian anthem, why not show respect by
standing even if you're not Russian yourself? But then maybe
that should be done away with too -- to avoid embarrassing
gaffes like when the Americans played the wrong music instead of
the Russian anthem at the wrestling event in Las Vegas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGmF_GRaNg
I just saw this at You Tube: Was it the band being inadequately
rehearsed, or were they protesting Putin? Putin does not look
happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LNgbv0lqpk
#Post#: 12842--------------------------------------------------
Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Kerry Date: August 31, 2016, 5:32 pm
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I'm waiting for some prominent person to start discussing race
within the NFL. Why are so many of the players black?
[quote]African-American players currently comprise 67.3% of the
league�s players. It is the highest percentage of
African-American players since the 2003 season. The remaining
racial breakdown of NFL players is: 31% Caucasian, .7%
Asian/Pacific Islander, .6% Latinos and 2% International and
Other. The key positions dominated by African-American players
are Cornerback (97% of NFL Cornerbacks are African-American) and
Wide Receivers (84% of NFL Wide Receivers are African-American).
On the other hand, the key positions dominated by Caucasian
players are Quarterback (82%) and Center (84%). Special teams
are also primarily comprised of Caucasian players (97% in 2013
and 98% in 2012.[/quote]
The numbers from 2010 have the racial makeup of America, given
at Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States,<br
/>as:
[quote]Self-identified race Percent of population
White alone
Black or African American
Asian
American Indians and Alaska Natives
Native Hawaiians and Other Pacific Islanders
Two or more races
Some other race
Total
So why is that? Why are some positions dominated by blacks,
when they comprise only 12.6% of the population? And why are
some positions more white than you might expect -- why so many
white quarterbacks and centers?
And why so many white owners?
[quote]NFL Ownership:
Currently there are no African-American NFL franchise owners.
The Jacksonville Jaguars are the only NFL franchise to have a
majority owner of color. Shahid Khan, a Pakistani-born American
businessman, joined NFL ownership in 2012.
NFL Coaches:
There are currently four African-American head coaches: Mike
Tomlin (Pittsburgh Steelers), Jim Caldwell (Detroit Lions),
Lovie Smith (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) and Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati
Bengals). African-American coaches comprise 13% of all coaching
positions in the NFL. Despite the consistently low number of
African-American head coaches, 9 out of the last 15 Super Bowl
teams had either an African-American head coach or General
Manager.
NFL General Managers:
This season the number of African-American General Managers
increased to 7 from 6 in 2013.The following teams have
African-American General Managers: Buffalo Bills, Cleveland
Browns, Detroit Lions, Oakland Raiders, Baltimore Ravens, New
York Giants and Houston Texans. Although African-American
General Managers only comprise 24% of all General Manager
positions in the NFL, this is the highest number of
African-American General Managers the NFL has ever seen.[/quote]
The percent of black coaches at 13% matches in general the
population of the US at 12.6%; but that article says it's a
"consistently low number". When it comes to describing the
general managers, the language is even more curious, "only
comprise 24%." When blacks comprise 12.6% of the population,
24% seems high to me -- twice as much as in the general
population. Yet they say "only" as if that is a low figure.
What would be fair? Should 67% of the general managers be
black the way the players are?
Is there a case that the NFL is biased in general against white
players but against black ones being quarterbacks and centers?
How did Colin Kaepernick become a quarterback if he's black or
mixed when 82% of their quarterbacks are white?
#Post#: 12847--------------------------------------------------
Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Kerry Date: September 1, 2016, 8:36 pm
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I heard some police force in California commented on this; but
now the National Association of Police Organizations got
involved. From USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2016/09/01/police-reaction-colin…
/>
[quote]The executive director of one of the largest police
organizations in the country blasted Colin Kaepernick and the
NFL on Thursday after learning that during training camp
practices in August, the San Francisco 49ers quarterback wore
socks that bear the image of cartoon pigs wearing police hats.
�It�s just ridiculous that the same league that prohibits the
Dallas (Cowboys) football club from honoring the slain officers
in their community with their uniforms stands silent when
Kaepernick is dishonoring police officers with what he�s wearing
on the field," Bill Johnson, executive director of the National
Association of Police Organizations (a coalition of police
unions and associations from across the country), told USA TODAY
Sports.
(The Cowboys� plan to use a helmet decal as a tribute to the
five police officers killed in July's sniper attack was denied
by the NFL, according to a published report.)
�I think the league is in a downward spiral regarding their
obligations to the public under (Commissioner) Roger Goodell,"
added Johnson, "and this is just another example of
that."[/quote]
And here's a photo of the socks with pigs in police helmets.
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8d2f39620a3339ca479a5a842792066cf1dc14c3/c=1295…
Kaepernick explained his reasoning on Instagram:
[quote] "I wore those socks, in the past, because the rogue cops
that are allowed to hold positions in police departments, not
only put the community in danger, but also put the cops that
have the right intentions in danger by creating an environment
of tension and mistrust. I have two uncles and friends who are
police officers and work to protect and serve ALL people. So
before those socks, which were worn before I took my public
stance, are used to distract from the real issues, I wanted to
address this immediately."[/quote]
Johnson also blamed the NFL:
[quote]Kaepernick�s refusal to stand for the national anthem
also drew Johnson�s ire, as did the NFL for not taking a public
stance against singer Beyonce�s Super Bowl halftime show in
February. Her performance was widely viewed as a tribute to the
Black Panthers and to St. Louis Rams players who used the �hands
up, don�t shoot" pose before a game in 2014 after the fatal
shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown by police in
Ferguson, Mo.
�I expect more from the NFL," Johnson said. �The NFL has
exhibited � it�s not just tone deafness, it seems to be an act
of dislike of police, frankly."[/quote]
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Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Brad Date: September 2, 2016, 7:58 am
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I found it a bit odd as well that he believes the white man
suppresses black people in the US when his own parents are
white, and it seems they get along great. Perhaps they are
liberal activists, that might explain his leaning.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Kerry Date: September 2, 2016, 7:08 pm
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[quote author=Brad link=topic=1118.msg12848#msg12848
date=1472821113]
I found it a bit odd as well that he believes the white man
suppresses black people in the US when his own parents are
white, and it seems they get along great. Perhaps they are
liberal activists, that might explain his leaning.
[/quote]His adopted parents are white, that's about all I know
about them. His biological mother is also white while his
father was black; and she got into things too publicly, saying
she disagreed with him. That's really unfortunate if you ask
me. Some adopted people do have questions about why they were
adopted. No one seems to know what kind of relationship if any
she has with him; but she still got involved in the discussion.
[quote]Colin Kaepernick is sitting alone, without even the
company or support of the woman who gave birth to him.
Heidi Russo, the birth mother of the 49ers quarterback who has
been refusing to stand for the national anthem, told Kaepernick
� publicly, on Twitter � he is bringing shame to the family and
the country.
[quote] Heidi Russo @Heidirn1
@Kaepernick7 There's ways to make change w/o disrespecting &
bringing shame to the very country & family who afforded you so
many blessings.
7:38 PM - 27 Aug 2016
1,466 1,466 Retweets 2,543 2,543 likes[/quote]
Russo, who gave birth at 19 and, destitute at the time, placed
him up for adoption, was loud in her disapproval, telling
Kaepernick � whose biological father is black � there are better
ways to protest what he identifies as oppression of black people
and minorities in the United States.[/quote]
That's complicated. And who is she to criticize him? Perhaps
part of his problem is trying to understand why she and his
father didn't stay together and keep him. Were they even
married?
I know a black girl who was adopted by white people. I never
heard about her father; but her mother had been a drug addict
and couldn't keep her. I could tell when she told me that it
had affected her.
I don't see my family much and seldom see my black nephew; but
when his mother got pregnant, she was very young and not ready
to be a mother and single. My sister offered to adopt the
child and told her she could visit anytime she wanted. If I
remember, I might ask my sister how many times she did show up
to visit -- I don't know. That's unusual -- but I think my
sister wanted him to feel comfortable around other blacks and
even around his biological mother. Yes, I think white couples
raising black children can cause the children some problems.
I also can't say for sure that racism was at work; but other
problems started after the adoption. One brother and his
family especially may have blown minor problems way out of
proportion because of his race. I rather think that what it
was. Things are so bad now, the white brother doesn't want to
be around if his black brother is there.
Back to Kaepernick, I wonder if maybe his adopted parents were
fine but he ran into other problems with his adopted relatives
or other whites? I also wonder if he thinks things might
have been different had his black biological father been around
-- and that brings up the question of discrimination. If you're
black and unemployed, can you afford your children?
I really wish his biological mother hadn't done that. Perhaps
she needs to talk things out with him in private and maybe he
would benefit from that too.
[quote]Kaepernick has not responded to Russo on Twitter. His
social media have gone silent since last weekend, when the world
learned of his silent protest.
View image on Twitter
View image on Twitter
Heidi Russo @Heidirn1
Love this kid!! #Blessing
4:57 PM - 26 Sep 2013 � Thornton, CO, United States
2 2 Retweets 5 5 likes
The specifics on the relationship between Kaepernick and his
birth mother are unclear. For years, he said he had no interest
in meeting her, even as she reached out repeatedly.
In 2013, ESPN chronicled Russo�s search for a reunion with the
son who turned into a multimillionaire NFL quarterback.
Kaepernick was adopted by a Wisconsin couple with two kids.
Asked by ESPN whether he was curious about meeting his birth
parents, he said no.
�It�s not really a respect thing,� Kaepernick said at the time.
�It�s just � [my adopted family is] my family. That�s
it.�[/quote]
I can understand his position on that, even sympathize; but it
might clear up some things for him just to hear her story.
Don't know.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Kerry Date: September 2, 2016, 8:04 pm
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The latest on this is that Kaepernick is going to give a million
dollars away to various charities. Good for him. I hope he
picks the recipients well. Maybe the money will do something
real to help the problems in society. I don't see how sitting
or kneeling during an anthem gets much done. From USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2016/09/01/colin-kaepernick-nati…
/>
[quote]Without providing specifics, Kaepernick said he is
working with organizations in communities of need that will get
the $1 million he makes this year.
�I�ve been very blessed to be in this position and to be able to
make the kind of money that I do and I have to help these
people,�� said Kaepernick, whose $11.9 million salary this year
has already been guaranteed. �I have to help these communities.
It�s not right that they�re not put in the position to succeed
or given those opportunities to success.��[/quote]
Maybe Kaepernick figured it out that all that money isn't making
him happy. Good for him again! This may be his
Christianity coming out. It's not enough to be the rich man
who's aware of the poor people like Lazarus outside. He was
lucky that he was talented and could succeed at sports; but
there are many children who aren't going to succeed that way.
This may turn out well after all.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: Brad Date: September 3, 2016, 10:32 am
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I agree that the birth mother should have spoke with him
personally, not to the press. I hope good does come out of it.
#Post#: 12869--------------------------------------------------
Re: Colin Kaepernick
By: paralambano Date: September 3, 2016, 10:54 am
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Kerry -
[quote]The latest on this is that Kaepernick is going to give a
million dollars away to various charities. Good for him.
[/quote]
That was the next I was expecting in some form. Ya, good for him
when he goes through with it.
[quote]I'm waiting for some prominent person to start discussing
race within the NFL. Why are so many of the players
black?[/quote]
I don't speak for the NFL so I'm guessing and hoping it's a
talent meritocracy like it is in track in the Olympics sometimes
where it's blacks winning first, second, third, and then white,
white, white following. There's an issue with some I don't know
allegedly transgender (another term was used which I can't
remember) black women winning in one of the races where I think
Melissa Bishop of Canada came in fourth.
para . . . .
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