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| #Post#: 3936-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Aknot Date: January 20, 2015, 9:02 am | |
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| [quote author=Admiral Fatts link=topic=428.msg3935#msg3935 | |
| date=1421764836] | |
| And this conversation right here is why every other game I have | |
| ever played is either PVP or Not PVP, no wierdness trying to | |
| split a map. Honestly I don't understand why you dont just have | |
| a claim of land for woodbury, have your pve rule within "town | |
| limits" and elect a sherrif who is cleared to pvp in the town to | |
| deal with the criminals? | |
| [/quote] | |
| Really I have played other games that effectively split the game | |
| into a PvP or PvE by choice of the players (Warcraft is the | |
| first one that comes to mind). There is no weirdness that I can | |
| think of. You chose to PvP or not. If you go into a PvP zone you | |
| get flagged for PvP. | |
| Again you have people that want to PvP and people that dont. | |
| With the ability to now (couldnt see doing this when it was a | |
| closed map) to give each side what it wants without either side | |
| having a benefit the question should be why wouldnt you cater to | |
| 2 different mindsets of players? | |
| The town limits will not afford everything the PvE players | |
| needs/wants to survive. The same question could be asked of the | |
| PvPer. Why not stay in and build at ground zero (or other | |
| sizable city) and you people that like and want to PvP stay in | |
| there and PvP? Well because that places limits. With an infinite | |
| map North and South each gets what they want with no limits so I | |
| don't see the weirdness..... | |
| #Post#: 3938-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Admiral Fatts Date: January 20, 2015, 9:27 am | |
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| This split has created toxicity in the server. I have | |
| uninstalled due to that, I say good day. | |
| #Post#: 3939-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Aknot Date: January 20, 2015, 9:32 am | |
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| [quote author=Admiral Fatts link=topic=428.msg3938#msg3938 | |
| date=1421767676] | |
| This split has created toxicity in the server. I have | |
| uninstalled due to that, I say good day. | |
| [/quote] | |
| Sorry to hear that. However having two sides get what they want | |
| should keep everyone happy. This is why Im curious as to why | |
| people wouldn't be happy regardless if they are PvP or PvE. | |
| #Post#: 3941-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Madman Date: January 20, 2015, 9:38 am | |
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| I have kept silent through most of this. But, I have to say that | |
| I don't agree for a second that the split has created ANY | |
| toxicity. Arguments and disagreements happen. That is human | |
| nature. Some people resist change and complain. Others embrace | |
| it and try to stay positive. If it is a good idea, it will work. | |
| If it isn't, it won't and we will do something different. It | |
| really is just that simple. | |
| Any toxicity is only a result of personalities conflicting, not | |
| the game parameters. | |
| #Post#: 3942-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: h0tr0d Date: January 20, 2015, 9:47 am | |
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| Fatts is right. You don't see the conversations that occur also | |
| on the server consistently. The commiseration and pot-stirring | |
| and lobbying. I tire of logging on to hear so-and-so has been | |
| poisoning new players with how so-and-so broke rules or is a bad | |
| person or a dick or new spawn killer etc. | |
| I log on today to see people who engage in PVP being slanderized | |
| and cast in a negative light. | |
| #Post#: 3943-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Aknot Date: January 20, 2015, 9:57 am | |
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| [quote author=h0tr0d link=topic=428.msg3942#msg3942 | |
| date=1421768866] | |
| Fatts is right. You don't see the conversations that occur also | |
| on the server consistently. The commiseration and pot-stirring | |
| and lobbying. I tire of logging on to hear so-and-so has been | |
| poisoning new players with how so-and-so broke rules or is a bad | |
| person or a dick or new spawn killer etc. | |
| I log on today to see people who engage in PVP being slanderized | |
| and cast in a negative light. | |
| [/quote] | |
| Report them and have MM pull the logs im sure he can. Then MM | |
| can direct his attention to those people who are calling people | |
| bad things and poisoning the new player base against the PvPers. | |
| Especially the Slander thing. I mean that's terrible. | |
| #Post#: 3944-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Madman Date: January 20, 2015, 9:59 am | |
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| As I just said in chat just now, I will say here. I will NOT | |
| tolerate any player bashing here. If you have an issue with | |
| another player, come to me. Consider this a warning. Those of | |
| you who continue to talk poorly of another player will be | |
| suspended or banned. I won't put up with it. If you are guilty | |
| of this, STOP now. I don't want to hear any bitching if you go | |
| to log in one day and you find that you can't. Thank you in | |
| advance for your cooperation. | |
| #Post#: 3945-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Viddion Date: January 20, 2015, 10:05 am | |
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| Hey, I was wondering if we could have some sort of opinion | |
| thread on the split, something more or less official so that we | |
| can try to do what's best for everyone. Personally my solutions | |
| are very pvp biased as I do PvP but we have a lot of people like | |
| Aknot who only PvE interests who should have an equal voice on | |
| this thing. I was even thinking maybe a teamspeak sit down where | |
| we could all politely hash details. Just mostly spit balling | |
| ideas here. I know this is Madman's server but I know he wants | |
| what's best for everyone (Unless he's Skynet or something, which | |
| honestly he might be he's always around so watch out) | |
| #Post#: 3946-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Five Flags of Power | |
| By: Madman Date: January 20, 2015, 10:16 am | |
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| I wish I was always around. I can't remember the last time I was | |
| really able to PLAY for a good bit of time, lol. | |
| I will be introducing a thread soon with a draft of the new | |
| rules and we can debate the details there and then. The split | |
| WILL happen regardless of input though. Hate to sound all | |
| Dictatory (Yay, for new made up word! :P) but that is the way it | |
| has to be right now. If it doesn't work well we can always | |
| change it. | |
| EDIT: Never mind. Just looked it up and apparently "Dictatory" | |
| IS a real word. Who knew? | |
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