Introduction
Introduction Statistics Contact Development Disclaimer Help
Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
Jack's House
https://jackshouse.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
Return to: Updates 2025
*****************************************************
#Post#: 6187--------------------------------------------------
Billy Kadlec
By: Jack Date: June 4, 2018, 4:28 am
---------------------------------------------------------
It's been about 15 months since I first met William 'Billy'
Kadlec. I shared the story of that meeting in The Cost of a
Field Trip (This story is now posted as Bransom, TX 2017 -
William's Warning on MMSA -
https://malespank.net/viewStory.php?id=54986
).
After that story appeared on 8 March, I posted this on the same
day.
"At the end of my post about the story where Billy is
introduced, I asked 'how much more of him will I see?' The
answer is 'pretty much everything'.
Sorry, I couldn't resist the double entendre.
When the kids arrived home that afternoon, Ethan Guthrey asked
me if I knew a kid named Billy Kadlec. I told him we'd met and
asked why. It turns out that Billy had asked both him and Evan
Tidwell about me. Not only that, but he'd said I seemed like a
really nice guy. He also caught Colt after school and introduced
himself. Ethan says he's okay (Evan didn't come over that day),
and Colt said the same, though he's only seen him around. I told
Colt he could invite him over after school on Friday, if he
wanted.
He did.
While my younger kids had other plans than seeing Logan that
Friday (3 March), Billy came over and hung out for a few hours,
then joined us at Cici's for dinner. (For the record, my tweens
spent the night at Paul Lincoln's house that night, and they
spent the evening at the batting cages and playing Putt Putt).
Billy's mom picked him up at Cici's, but both of them joined us
the next day, when we went to Irish Fest. We left early, because
it was a bit chilly, windy, and drizzling, but we did have a
good time. His mom let him spend the rest of the day with us.
They also had lunch with us Sunday.
Saturday afternoon, Billy and I had a little private time. I
took him down to the hand-me-down closet. I started digging for
stuff, and told him to try it on. The shirts were okay, but when
I told him to try on a pair of pants, he went into turbo-blush.
I told him he could use the bathroom to change, if he was
embarrassed, but he shook his head. ""I guess you've already
seen me with my clothes off.""
Billy does have a lean build, but he's a bit soft - nicely
padded. He does ride his bike a lot, and has nice calves,
though.
I had plenty of hand-me-downs for BCA uniform that were about
Billy's size, because I hold extras for the uniform exchange,
just because of the amount of space I have. He has shorts that
fit, but his mom didn't want to buy long pants that he wouldn't
be wearing in a few weeks, but our crazy weather lately makes
that a hard bet. I got him four pair of long slacks - two navy
and two khaki, and a couple of more shirts. His briefs were a
bit snug, so I gave him some of those and a couple of
undershirts as well. I usually buy underclothes when I see them
on sale, so I always have extras when needed. Plus, I like to
think of him having a variety of briefs to chose from now, and I
did sneak a pair of Tigers in.
I did tell his mom about that, and let her know that I keep
things for the uniform exchange, and that Billy is a bit bigger
than Colt (and a lot bigger than Aidan Guthrey), so she didn't
owe me anything, but could just give me Billy's outgrown stuff
to pass around to whomever needs it.
I've seen Billy four times now (since the first time), and seen
his mom twice. His mom has decided that I'm not some crazy
guy... Wait, she's actually decided that I'm totally insane, but
not in a scary way. She said I have to be crazy to have this
many kids, and then invite guests. I gave her a few comics. She
read and enjoyed them. She also has seen how many BCA boys I
have around here, including some in the same grade as Billy, and
the standards of behavior to which I hold them, and she seems to
like it. Some days she's able to get home a bit after four,
which is okay, but she sometimes has to work later, and I'm
thinking about just inviting Billy to come home with my kids on
those days."
"I still don't know why I reacted the way I did to him, but I
really like him, and he seems to return it. We'll have to see
where it goes.
In the meantime, I have learned a few important things about
Billy.
1) His father passed away about three years ago. Apparently it
was an undiagnosed heart problem.
2) Billy's dad worked at home, and he homeschooled Billy. When
his mom was trying to enroll him in public school, she couldn't
get things arranged as she wanted, and someone told her about
BCA. That's important because, while Billy is an eighth grader,
he's not 14 or 13 1/2. He's not even 13 until 27 April. He was a
year ahead from his homeschooling.
3) Do you remember from the story that Billy knew Van? Billy
plays piano, and he's really impressed by Van (I think there's a
bit of a crush there). However, he knows him from elsewhere as
well - they're in the same science class, but not the same math
class. Van is taking Algebra I, but Billy is already in Algebra
II.
4) His mom usually doesn't spank his bottom. She normally uses a
'switch' on the palm of his hand.
Details - have you seen those fancy, artifical plant/flower
displays with different stuff stuck in vases that you can buy at
places like Michael's? Well, she has some of those, and one or
two of them have... he just calls them swishy sticks, but I
think they're called artificial stems. Anyway, when he gets in
trouble at home (which he says isn't too often), he gets a few
cuts across the palm of his hand. He says it burns like crazy,
and makes little lines, but they don't last very much longer
than the sting does.
He also says he occasionally gets the switch on his butt. He
says that's better, because it's normally on his pants. It's
only when he's wearing pajamas that it's pretty bad, and the
worst whupping he ever got from his mom was when he was only
wearing his underpants and she caught him on the back of the
leg.
He did get to go on the Field Trip, which was yesterday. I think
everyone had a good time. When I talked to Billy afterwards, I
asked him if he wished he'd just asked his mom.
""Nah, 'cause if I hadn't gotten in trouble, we never woulda
met, and I wouldn't get to come over and hang out with
everybody.""
""I hadn't thought of that. Was it worth it?""
""It is now that my butt quit hurting."""
After that, I shared a minor update on 31 March
"I went into BCA this afternoon. I needed to straighten out some
paperwork for Zeke, and they're after me to teach a few classes
before we get too close to the end of school. There was
something going on in front of the school (unloading something),
so I pulled around to the side. I saw a boys' gym class, so I
parked by the gym.
It was the eighth grade boys gym class, and Marcus teaches it.
When I pulled up with the top down, I got the attention of a
number of the boys, and then someone called 'Uncle Jack'. When
Marcus saw me, he invited me over and introduced me to the
(relatively small number of) boys who didn't know me. In that
class, we have Tyler Knight, Ethan Guthrey, Scott Malone, Ethan
Tidwell, and Rusty Ballard are all in that class, and I know
I've talked about all of them here (Rusty Ballard probably
least, but he's one of my Scouts). There are also four other
kids whom I know (I mean, besides Billy), bringing the total up
to 10 kids I know, out of a total of 16 boys in the entire
class.
The class was almost over, so I walked in through the locker
room, but didn't stay long, though I did see a couple of the
quicker boys getting into the showers.
Anyway, I did see Billy today, but it's not the first time I've
seen him since I did this bio.
His mom is hesitant to 'take advantage of me' (which is funny -
like I'd notice one extra boy), but he has been coming over here
on days she has to work late. She loves it, because she was
having to pay a neighbor to watch him until he got home, and he
hated anything that resembled being babysat.
I said before that I'd given Ms. Kadlec a few comics. Well, she
now has a list of her own, and Billy is allowed to get a book or
two and a few comics each week. He loves it, and she loves
having new stuff to read.
I mentioned that I thought Billy had a crush on Van, but I think
Van might be in love with Billy - he let Billy play with his
keyboard! The two of them have also shared the piano bench
downstairs and played some duet stuff. Billy obviously has some
hero worship going with Van, and he seems to get along well with
several of Van's friends.
For that matter, while they don't go to BCA, Billy also seems to
get along well with Leif, Devon, and Kenny and their friends.
Billy is going to see Ghost in the Shell with us, and he's
spending the night. His mom is going to see the movie with us,
but she has to be at work early tomorrow morning, so she's very
happy he has a place to hang out and people to hang with. He's
planning on going to see Colt's baseball game with us, then come
back and play around as Van auditions new Phantoms."
"Oh, and he did confess to me about... ten days ago? his mom had
spanked both hands! She'd found one of my books in his room and
asked him about it. He'd borrowed it without my permission, so
he attempted to lie to his mom about it. Apparently he's not
very good at it, and the truth came out. He got his hands
spanked for lying, and then he had to return the book to me,
confess and apologize, and then he mentioned that his mom had
given me permission to spank him.
The phrase 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth' came to mind.
In the end, Billy really is my friend, so we had a little talk
about the proper way to borrow things, and I assured him that he
was forgiven for this, but the next time it happens, he can
expect to get the same thing Kenny or Colt would get. I got a
big hug for that. And his mom did check back later. It turns out
he'd lied to me as well. It had been his idea for me to spank
him for taking the book... Well, she had given permission, so
maybe it wasn't really a lie, and it was one I would have
forgiven anyway.
Besides, he and I had been looking at some books, and I'd shown
him that one. I didn't know he'd taken it, but I certainly
wouldn't have told him 'no', if he had asked, and I can see how
he might have thought I'd intended for him to borrow it."
After that, it was 14 June before I mentioned him again.
It's been a while since I've said much about Billy, but it's
definitely time for an update.
Billy has been over here a lot since March. He went to several
movies with us, spent the night a few times, and has been over
here about 8 times in the less than two weeks since school
ended.
And no, I've not spanked him yet.
Billy and I have developed a relationship over the last two or
three months. It's always interesting when I make friends with a
boy in Billy's situation: you kind of half want to let them
decide where they want things to go, then decide how willing you
are to go there. Billy and I are definitely friends, and I think
he wants a bit more than that. His Mom is okay with it now that
she's come to know me. The simple fact is that some boys who are
fatherless aren't interested in trying to find a replacement. In
our case, it's hard for me not to treat the boys around here in
a fatherly fashion, and I guess the least I can say is that
Billy seems happy to accept that.
Billy loves to talk books, and he and I have done that. He's
gotten interested in Scouting, and we're getting him going
there. He's actually also interested in talking number theory,
which can be fun (not much call for those discussions, tbh).
We've also had a few problems - all fairly minor, but especially
so (the frequency, not the seriousness) since summer started.
Billy and I sat down yesterday, discussed a few things that were
concerning me, then discussed a few of his concerns.
We started by discussing the minor things he's been doing since
summer started. Part of me feels like he's testing limits. It
actually makes sense to an extent. He's not becoming part of our
household, but he knows I've spanked 'some' of the boys'
friends, and he will be spending a lot of time here this summer.
After I pointed out the things he's been doing (pushing
boundaries - which isn't a big thing, considering his age),
pushing curfews, arguing about some of the minor rules, and
going into my library without permission (which I decided to
openly give him, as long as he doesn't take anything without
checking it out and letting me know), he (reluctantly) agreed
he'd probably earned a spanking.
Despite his harsh punishment at school, and the way his mom
handles things, he wants to be treated 'like the other guys'.
Strangely enough, I'm okay with that. He did seem happy to
accept an offer that his first official spanking from me be
limited to hand. It turns out his father spanked him that way -
normally bare by hand, though it sounds like there was some
variation (Billy is pretty private about his dad so far, so I
haven't heard a lot of detail). He was even happier to accept
'one more last chance'.
We did agree on what he needs to do to improve, and what I have
a right to expect from him. Then we waited on his mom.
As I think I said before, his mom mostly sent him to BCA for
academics, not religious reasons, but she is a Church-goer, and
she seems happy to have had Billy fall in with a man who has a
lot of ... (anything I say here sounds like bragging on myself,
so we'll just say she knows some people whom I know, and they've
all given me good reviews). She did love Billy's dad very much.
While she's dated a couple of times, she's just not interested
in getting serious right now.
While things didn't start out well, I've always like that she
gave in and was willing to try things and admit that she was
wrong. I don't know that we'll ever become great friends, but
she seems like a pretty good person, she seems like she does try
to listen to Billy and be fair, and she does recognize his needs
that she can't fulfill. On the other hand, while he missed being
here one day because he'd gotten behind on chores, another day
he missed was because they went to Six Flags together.
When she arrived, we talked through several things. She'd
already decided that she was going to try leaving Billy alone
while my kids were at camp. That's still going to happen, but
not as much as she expected. At Billy's request, she will drop
him here early Tuesday morning, and go to work with me. Besides
work, we're going to spend time talking books and comics, and
I'm going to help him with some wood working - yes, he's making
his own paddle - a maple Red, much like Emmet's. He likes
Emmet's initials, but decided he wants to call his Billy's Red,
which I respect (look at that and think about it for a minute -
kids got a good head on his shoulders). He'll be going to work
with me Wednesday, also, and staying until Thursday, when we'll
do our Scout fill in for the kids who are still around (I'll be
gone Monday, dropping mine at camp).
His mom and I were both hesitant about him staying here with my
kids gone, especially with him spending the night, but he likes
the little kids, and I'll still have other kids here during the
day at least part of the week, so it's really not that weird -
at least his mom didn't think so, and I know I don't intend to
molest him, so...
And that's where we stand with young Mister Kadlec . Now if
he'll just stop fooling around and get into a bit of real
trouble so we can get the will they/won't they thing over with.
Finally, I made an undated post on what seems to have been the
old forums last day.
It's hilarious. With as much time as Billy spends around here,
you'd think I'd talk about him more.
Billy has had a pretty good summer.
Billy has been spanked a couple of times over here - (this
shares two links from the old forum for BOTD's. Neither of them
seem to be rescued, and there are things from the last days of
the forums missing from Leti's files, so these details may just
be lost). There were a couple of times that I had decent reasons
to give him a solo spanking, but I haven't done it yet - not
even after he finished his Maple novelty paddle (well, maybe a
test smack or two).
I'm not sure why I haven't spanked him yet. He's almost perfect
for me - both in himself and because he's that perfect age. It
wouldn't even be the first time that I've spanked a boy I
considered my friend. I just haven't done it yet; but then, he
hasn't really earned one yet, either.
Anyway, I got a good understanding of why Billy is just 13, but
is taking mostly freshman and sophomore level classes. We had
basically 12 weeks of summer (though we were gone for a week,
and my kids were gone for two more) so I planned for 9 weeks or
projects and movies. We ended upexpanding that a bit, so the
boys who were around here while my kids were at camp could see
movies (though ones that were outside our plans). Some of my
suggestions for projects were just 'science project' and a list
of places to look. Others, like cultural history, were much more
specific. The thing is, by about the middle of the summer, Billy
had already done one from each category (15) and was looking for
more. We sat down together and came up with more.
Despite the trouble when I first met them, Billy and his mom
obviously love each other. While they weren't able to get away
for a real vacation, they did stuff together almost every week.
Despite that, Bill loves being over here in a high testosterone
environment, and he's made friends with a lot of my boys, and
with me.
I'm sure I've mentioned Billy a few times in the new forum. He
and I are still friends, but he's also friends with all my
middle and younger high school boys. More than that - he's one
of them. He considers them his brothers, and he does call me
dad.
Last night, I shared a BOTD - Share and Share Alike
https://jackshouse.createaforum.com/botd/botd-20180604-share-and-share-alike/.<…
/> It is basically true, and it does focus on young Mr. Kadlec
(and his cute little rear end). Things did go pretty much
exactly as I described them in the BOTD (from my point of view,
since I actually did miss a fair amount that happened
elsewhere), but there are details that happened afterwards which
I intend to share.
#Post#: 6215--------------------------------------------------
Re: Billy Kadlec
By: Jack Date: June 5, 2018, 10:51 am
---------------------------------------------------------
As I said in the BOTD - Billy did get a very hard session over
my lap, and he was worn out before I finished. I did hold and
cuddle him for a bit, then helped him lay down on my bed. I
told him to get up, cleaned up, and put his shorts on when he
was ready, and left him alone for a few minutes, but he'd cried
himself to sleep when I came back, so I covered him with a sheet
and let him sleep.
I came back about 15 minutes later, and he was up and in my
bathroom washing up. He was very sore and stiff, so I helped
him get back into his Fruit of the Looms, and he put on a
t-shirt, then we talked for a while.
I honestly believe that a lot of Billy's problem is that his mom
had told him why he couldn't go to the party, and she'd made the
mistake of being right. The seniors hadn't wanted him there, he
hadn't known anyone, he was bored, and there were kids getting
in trouble.
"What kind of trouble?" I'd asked him.
"Some of them were drinking beer and some of them were smoking."
"What were they smoking?"
"You mean what brand?"
"Were they smoking cigarettes or joints?"
"How would I know?"
I've said before that Billy's not a very good liar, and I'm sure
he wasn't being disingenuous. I'm a bit surprised a 14-year old
doesn't know what pot smells like, but I'm glad too.
Anyway, the reason they were late is that no one wanted to leave
to take them home. They finally got a ride with some kid who
was making a burger run, but then they had to walk the last
part. When he got home, he was tired, and ticked off, and he
didn't want to admit his mom had been right, and so he started
digging.
Billy felt better after finally admitting the truth. He hated
confessing to his mom, but was glad to get the air cleared.
At that point, we went through his bags. Two of them went to
Kaden and Leif's room, but he kept the book bag. While there
are no electronics, I do allow some books. Billy had brought
his Scout Manual, and some books he was using to put together a
list of his projects for this summer.
[hr]
In the BOTD scenario, I implied that Billy was my biological
son. The truth is that he and I have grown very close over the
15 months that I've known him. His mom and I have come to know
and respect each other, and we do have enough interests in
common that I'd call her a friend. The thing is it's only been
about four years since her husband passed away unexpectedly.
She's only recently shown any interest in starting to date
seriously. On the other hand, she knows that boys really do
need a male figure, and she not only hasn't stood in the way of
our relationship, but she didn't get upset when he started
calling me Dad. She knows that Bill still loves and misses his
bio father, but she knows he needs somewhere here for him now.
I'm actually the one who had 'the talk' with Billy. He was
adolescent when I first met him, but didn't have a real good
idea of what was really going on with his body.
[hr]
I left Billy alone for a while, and came back about 11am. He
was sprawled across my bed, still wearing only briefs and a tee.
He had books spread all around him.
"Billy, you know that seclusion means no company, and that you
eat in here - alone - right?"
"Yes, sir," he said. Billy's very social with the right people,
and he was obviously a bit down about that, but accepting.
"We don't have a definite time when seclusion ends. I play that
somewhat by end. I was thinking of letting you come out around
7:30 or 8pm this evening. On the other hand, we're having a
formal brunch to celebrate Parker's birthday. Are you willing
to stay in here until 9pm, then go straight to bed with no
games, if I let you come out for a while and join us for brunch?
"Yes, sir!"
(More to Come)
#Post#: 6220--------------------------------------------------
Re: Billy Kadlec
By: db105 Date: June 5, 2018, 3:45 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Billy sounds like a very likable kid. I'm glad he could have
brunch with everybody.
#Post#: 6222--------------------------------------------------
Re: Billy Kadlec
By: kalico Date: June 5, 2018, 5:47 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Aww happy he has you and thinks of you as dad and that he is all
settled and could come have brunch
Hugs kal
#Post#: 30579--------------------------------------------------
Re: Billy Kadlec
By: Jack Date: March 7, 2025, 10:27 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
I decided to update this one next, because I just got off the
phone with Billy (he mostly goes by Bill these days, but wants
Dad to call him Billy, so...)
Billy will be 21 next month on the Sunday that starts the week
exams start. He and I tossed around some ideas, but he's going
to stay at school, but go have dinner with my older boys (like
Noah, Blake, the twins), and a couple of his close friends. My
boys will take care of driving, so he'll be able to celebrate
with a few drinks without worrying about problems.
His last day of exams is scheduled to be 5 May, and he'll be
coming home the next day. He's probably going to stay here that
first week to hang out with his 'little brothers' and go to work
with me a bit. After that, as my other college kids get home,
he'll probably stay with his mom, but we're still finalizing
summer plans, so that's still up in the air.
*****************************************************
You are viewing proxied material from gopher.createaforum.com. The copyright of proxied material belongs to its original authors. Any comments or complaints in relation to proxied material should be directed to the original authors of the content concerned. Please see the disclaimer for more details.