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| Spanking Data analysis | |
| By: WenseslaoD Date: March 1, 2019, 11:23 pm | |
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| I was practicing and doing a bit of data-mining with a program | |
| I'm learning to use at University, and I thought suddenly "It | |
| will be really great to do this with something I'm interested | |
| on." I searched for some open data about corporal punishment and | |
| the only thing I got was a Harsh-discipline of children database | |
| from Unicef. It's not that great, but it's something. | |
| Running a simple analysis I discovered some interesting stuff | |
| For example: | |
| In Mexico (my country) richest kids are more strictly raised | |
| than poorest kids. | |
| In Arabic countries it's pretty balanced through economic | |
| position | |
| In some Eastern Europe countries the counter flips to poorest | |
| being more harshly disciplined. | |
| As you can expect, boys are disciplined more than girls. And in | |
| rural more than in urban. Etc... | |
| I've always dreamed with having access to accurate data about | |
| real domestic corporal punishment. But it's pretty difficult to | |
| obtain. Is not that you can go around asking people about this. | |
| �What are your thoughts about this? �Do you know about any | |
| accurate databases, etc? | |
| #Post#: 11889-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Spanking Data analysis | |
| By: db105 Date: March 2, 2019, 5:55 am | |
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| I'm not sure what a harsh-discipline database is. Is it a record | |
| of the number of possible child abuse cases that get to the | |
| courts or to CPS? If so, I'm not sure they are representative of | |
| actual numbers, since it's possible that for some social classes | |
| there's less chance of the situation being reported to the | |
| authorities. | |
| Anyway, for real data maybe the best source could be scientific | |
| papers? I'm calling them scientific although, as I have said in | |
| other thread, I have my doubts about the scientific value of | |
| many social sciences papers. | |
| #Post#: 11891-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Spanking Data analysis | |
| By: WenseslaoD Date: March 2, 2019, 6:43 am | |
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| You made valid points, but according to them violent discipline | |
| is defined as from constantly yelling to violent physical | |
| punishment (physical abuse). I know is not the that perfect, | |
| just an approximation of reality. And although social sciences | |
| are not as perfect as the technical ones, collection of data | |
| follows a method and is better than nothing. | |
| Greetings | |
| #Post#: 11893-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Spanking Data analysis | |
| By: Jack Date: March 2, 2019, 9:16 am | |
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| I have been following discussions and studies about spanking | |
| since I took a sociology class in 84 or 85. The problem is that | |
| most studies are done to prove a point, not to learn something. | |
| If you dig deeply enough into most studies, they aren't about | |
| spanking at all; they study 'corporal punishment', which is | |
| defined as anything from a firm pat on the bottom to killing the | |
| kid. | |
| Something we've discussed again and again at this and the | |
| previous forum is that the discrepancies in results, and the | |
| fact that alternative punishments often have similar results, | |
| suggests that it has more to do with the parenting style - | |
| whether calm, supportive, and explanatory or yelling, | |
| threatening, and unyielding - than with the method of correction | |
| used. | |
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