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| Post suggestions of how you would react to derogatory language f | |
| rom others | |
| By: VicTS Date: May 16, 2018, 7:06 am | |
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| I have always found it hard to challenge derogatory language in | |
| others, whether it was read or heard. My father was very | |
| typically derogatory about Asian Muslims, which I understood as | |
| scapegoating from him. He worked in the Middle East for a 30 | |
| years and was surrounded by Asian workers, he would have failed | |
| in the job if he had been constantly derogatory. He did it when | |
| he was scared, so I felt this and did not challenge. | |
| However, I feel this insight into why he was derogatory held me | |
| back from challenging and fear of upsetting others, I felt very | |
| confused by these remarks. | |
| When I do come accross them I judge the person to be very | |
| unintelligent and lacking in basic humanity. | |
| I always knew in my head I wanted to challenge but only recently | |
| did. A close relative was using racist language and stereotypes | |
| and I challenged and asked her to not talk like that in my | |
| presence. | |
| I wonder if I has more courage because of the Equality Act and | |
| that we talk more about it being wrong, I feel extremely | |
| uncomfortable, inside and out. | |
| My children go to a diverse school and I am aware that some of | |
| their friends' parents chose this school because it has more | |
| white than others in the area. I avoid these parents and if I | |
| have ever challenged am met with passive aggressive responses. | |
| I chose to not reveal how I felt and became silent, not agreeing | |
| but also not disagreeing, which makes me feel bad. | |
| People are often silent about these belief until they feel they | |
| have allies, they only usually become derogatory when with | |
| family or being drunk and violent, so I would be very cautious | |
| to challenge these. In Burma there has been a situation with | |
| Muslim people being attacked by Buddhist Monks. Something I | |
| find hard to digest. The Monks have been exposed to hate | |
| material, but as soon as I was aware of this I assumed that they | |
| are unintelligent. | |
| I know it is more complicated than this, but I react in a | |
| frightened way, at the moment. | |
| #Post#: 27-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Post suggestions of how you would react to derogatory langua | |
| ge from others | |
| By: Slavka Date: May 16, 2018, 12:47 pm | |
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| I'm a foreigner who's been living here for 18 years (and I've | |
| gone pretty much native, my Scottish accent really confuses | |
| people) so I've had my share of derogatory language from others. | |
| Having been on the receiving end, I have to issues challenging | |
| this and I often have done. | |
| Recently with my own family; who still live in Slovakia. There | |
| was a lot of bad media press about 'illegal immigrants' from | |
| Syria etc. and some of the language used was shocking. Bear in | |
| mind, it was a closed country for almost 40 years because of | |
| communism and even seeing someone with a different skin color | |
| was pretty unusual (mostly on the TV); the only ones would be | |
| Romany Gypsies. So when the borders opened after 1989, it was a | |
| shock to the population. Most foreigners that came were | |
| Vietnamese and Chinese and people would of course make nick | |
| names for them. Seeing a black person was a rarity. However, one | |
| guy moved from Mali to study there and he essentially became a | |
| Slovak celebrity, he learned the language and became a popular | |
| TV entertainer, even got a Slovak passport. His skin color was a | |
| rarity and he was clever enough to use it to his advantage. It | |
| was great to see because people warmed to him and he probably | |
| became a 'representative' of the black people in there. Which | |
| even now, there aren't many. I am sure he'd have to put up with | |
| his own share of the racist/derogatory language. It is often a | |
| question of ignorance. But sometimes it is not. I have to issues | |
| addressing it. | |
| Some 25 years ago my sister's schoolmate married a black guy and | |
| they had a child. It was a pity because people would be pointing | |
| at them. Again, some would only see a black person on the TV. In | |
| the hindsight, it was quite sad. | |
| I guess I was lucky as I moved to London aged 18 and was thrown | |
| into a completely different world that opened my eyes and | |
| horizons. | |
| #Post#: 33-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Post suggestions of how you would react to derogatory langua | |
| ge from others | |
| By: Diversity Tutor Date: May 17, 2018, 2:22 am | |
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| Hi Both | |
| It is tricky because a Rogerian style means you do not | |
| challenge. However if someone makes a racist comment what do you | |
| do? Will the person take any notice if you challenge them? Can | |
| you openly challenge them without putting yourself at risk? | |
| Tutor | |
| #Post#: 34-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Post suggestions of how you would react to derogatory langua | |
| ge from others | |
| By: VicTS Date: May 17, 2018, 3:58 am | |
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| Yes, I feel the risk could be great, however thinking further if | |
| a client used this language in a session I would be questioning | |
| what was happening and why they thought it was acceptable. I | |
| may also have to consider withdrawing services, it would make me | |
| feel very uncomfortable, which is a way I could introduce it | |
| into the session :) | |
| #Post#: 41-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Post suggestions of how you would react to derogatory langua | |
| ge from others | |
| By: Slavka Date: May 18, 2018, 3:47 am | |
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| I agree with Vic on this. | |
| I would explore why they felt the need to speak like that, | |
| whether racist, homophobic etc. and if I felt it was for the | |
| best, I would cease the therapy. | |
| I think it's about striking a balance. Yes, the Rogerian way is | |
| non-confrontational but if people do not confront their | |
| prejudices etc. will they ever change? Here I side with Fritz | |
| Perls, a confrontation can be a good thing. It can also bring | |
| cognitive dissonances to the fore so they can be looked at. I | |
| never forget watching Perls confronting a young lady at a | |
| session. I think it's still available on YouTube. As much as I | |
| like Rogers, I feel it can sometimes take client only so far. I | |
| think that's why I sometimes get people referred to me from | |
| counsellors. Or people who had counselling seek me out because | |
| they feel they need something else. It happens quite often | |
| actually. I work integratively. | |
| I've recently had a client who was very homophobic. I was | |
| actually raging when he left the session because I couldn't | |
| quite believe what he way saying. | |
| I brought it to my supervision and then we talked about it in | |
| the next session we had because I didn't feel I could just let | |
| it go. We've had a few sessions together but the therapy | |
| finished not because of his homophobia. He actually went to | |
| sleep every time we did a trancework and he expected me to talk | |
| to him whilst he was "out" (he'd snore and literally not | |
| remember anything I was saying to him and he wanted it this way) | |
| and his issues would magically disappear. He's been going to | |
| different hypnotherapists for 20 years and still had the same | |
| issues. Actually not wanting to accept responsibility and have | |
| an active participation in therapy but expecting to be 'fixed'. | |
| I discussed this at length at my supervision. | |
| We don't take to homophobia and racism lightly in our household. | |
| My husband has a brilliant retort when someone says that | |
| 'sexuality is a choice so they choose to be gay'. He'd ask | |
| 'could YOU make that choice?'. They are usually baffled and say | |
| of course not! So then, if YOU can't make that choice, what | |
| makes you think THEY can? | |
| #Post#: 62-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Post suggestions of how you would react to derogatory langua | |
| ge from others | |
| By: Diversity Tutor Date: May 25, 2018, 12:54 am | |
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| Hi Slavka | |
| I like your husband's challenge ! | |
| Tutor | |
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