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| Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Masked Man Date: February 6, 2025, 12:28 am | |
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| SUMMARY: | |
| OLDHAM COUNTY, Ky. � | |
| An uptick in illnesses has Oldham County Schools moving to | |
| virtual learning the next three days. | |
| According to the district, on Monday alone, they had 1,700 | |
| students, 200+ staff, and 15 transportation employees absent due | |
| to illness. | |
| LINK: | |
| https://www.wlky.com/article/oldham-county-schools-nti-tues-wed-thurs/63654710 | |
| "OCS also provided these tips to help parents and students stop | |
| the spread of illness: | |
| Please continue to stress the importance of FREQUENT HAND | |
| WASHING (hands should be washed with soap and water for at least | |
| 20 seconds). | |
| Teach your child to cover their nose and mouth with a tissue | |
| when coughing or sneezing. Allow them to carry their own supply | |
| of tissues. HAND WASHING is advised after the use of each tissue | |
| when coughing and sneezing. | |
| Teach your child the "Cover Your Cough" maneuver recommended by | |
| health professionals. Simply cough into the crook of the elbow | |
| instead of covering the cough with your hands". | |
| Masked Man side remark on aforementioned guidelines: | |
| The school sure has a lot of gall giving advice and tips to | |
| people considering they completely failed to protect their kids | |
| from an outbreak they themselves were part of or possibly | |
| created. | |
| uh does the mask exist!? Does anybody here recognize the mask as | |
| a medical safety device that has been proven to be useful for | |
| quite some time in history and all cultures in fighting germs? | |
| Hello!? Anybody in there? let's acknowledge the mask does indeed | |
| exist as a legitimate medical safety tool. It has a filter and | |
| filters out hazardous particles not just in the medical world | |
| around germs but also is used for filtering out dangerous | |
| particles in work occupational world such as asbestos, harmful | |
| smoke particles and there are even masks to prevent people from | |
| inhaling fumes that paint your car etc. This should be part of | |
| education knowing the tools that are available in this world and | |
| the mask has definitely proven its work as a legitimate tool | |
| and weapon against breathing in harmful particles. I don't | |
| understand the denial of its existence and its sole function as | |
| a legitimate medical tool and device. | |
| Okay wash your hands because germs just came out of sick | |
| people's faces at any given moment | |
| Okay teach your childeren to cover their faces from sneezes.. uh | |
| well sneezes and coughs are often involuntary spasms making it | |
| somewhat impractical maybe giving the kid 3 seconds or less to | |
| grab a tissue..plus that means every kid has like a tissue out | |
| in the open which is also subject to germs. might as well MASK! | |
| Okay teach your kid to cough in his elbow... c'mon that's bull | |
| then what .. walk around with his inner elbow exposed to his | |
| friends!? Are ya suppose to clean the germs on your inner elbow? | |
| ... again wouldn't the mask be smarter!? This stuff isn't going | |
| to work anyway! coughing in your elbow if you are sick!? then go | |
| to lunch and recess everything will be okay!? gimme a break! | |
| School, | |
| There's an outbreak at your school .. your school failed | |
| ...don't give advice... this school's advice isn't going to | |
| protect the parents from children who spread this illness to | |
| mommy, daddy and grandparents when they get home. Be humble | |
| school. Why do you think you had an outbreak? because you know | |
| nothing about airborne diseases and how to prevent them | |
| obviously. All we know is that there is an outbreak in flu at | |
| this school and now the school thinks they all know what went | |
| wrong like a bunch of know it alls... a little humility is in | |
| order here for goodness sakes.You are not going to be fast | |
| enough to hold your breath and wash your hands when some child | |
| coughs or sneezes involuntarily into the air.. you people are | |
| not that gifted with superhuman agility and its impossible ... | |
| its all about physics.. your dealing with an airborne | |
| disease..your not going to be able to prevent or kill all the | |
| microscopic entities floating around in the air with hand | |
| washing or blowing into an elbow anymore than you can prevent | |
| Johnny from throwing a spitball or spit wad of paper at Sally | |
| across the room... think about the physics of it. You admit to | |
| understanding half the physics like when people cough sneeze , | |
| laugh ,shout or even breathe heavy then out of the face comes | |
| droplets and vapors in the air floating around and some of the | |
| droplets get breathed in by others from the air or land on | |
| people and stuff and people touch their faces but you don't seem | |
| to appreciate that time when the droplets are in the air or | |
| right when the droplets shoot into the air.. so shouldn't you | |
| also suggest people who aren't sick cover their face with a | |
| tissue when people around them accidentally cough or sneeze? See | |
| what I'm getting at? This isn't protecting people... at least | |
| suggest covering your mouth with masks if you understand the | |
| principles involved here and the timing of everything. You | |
| people aren't that fast. | |
| Dear teachers, | |
| What about when kids laugh? According to science these germs | |
| come out of the face when people laugh .. are you teachers going | |
| to cover your mouth too ? Wear a mask its easier and a mask is | |
| already in place before you laugh , cough, or sneeze | |
| involuntarily.. stop blaming the students and the parents for an | |
| airborne disease and your reason for not masking if you believe | |
| in covering the face when sneezing, coughing, shouting or | |
| laughing. I f you believe in covering your face when sneezing | |
| coughing laughing or breathing heavy then keep it covered(with a | |
| mask)! Its your logic ..your reasoning to cover a sneeze and a | |
| laugh then keep it covered!Don't give advice you aren't willing | |
| to take and follow yourselves... wear a mask if you believe kids | |
| should cover their faces while sneezing , coughing or laughing | |
| involuntarily. | |
| I read the article and that's essentially what the school is | |
| saying is that its the parents fault for not teaching kids and | |
| its the kid's fault for not covering up their sneezes and | |
| coughs enough and washing hands enough ... so teachers, I say | |
| practice what you preach and keep your face covered too by | |
| wearing a mask if you believing in covering faces while people | |
| sneeze cough or laugh.. its only fair. | |
| I give this school an F for pretending to know something about | |
| airborne diseases and blaming involuntary coughing and sneezing | |
| on it and yet not recommending people wear masks to prevent the | |
| droplets from entering the air as they have suggested is the | |
| problem. To think that all is needed is that parent teach their | |
| kids cover their face with a tissue when they cough or laugh or | |
| sneeze into the crevice of part of their body body of clothing | |
| and that is will serves as some sort of protective filter for | |
| germs and protects all the healthy people in the room is nothing | |
| but but wishful thinking and doesn't include any deductive or | |
| scientific basis in reasoning. This school is blaming the | |
| parents for this outbreak. Its just true: An outbreak occurred | |
| at a school and the school implies that people need to wash | |
| their hands more and teach their kids to cover their faces more | |
| when they involuntarily cough, sneeze or laugh. I mean do you | |
| teach children to keep the crevice or fold of clothing they | |
| cough into closed for the remaining part of day? You cough into | |
| your elbows and then keep your arm all folded real tight so as | |
| to trap the germ in there? Is that how ya'll beat an outbreak | |
| maskless? How many coughs are you allowed before you have to | |
| wash your inner elbow crevice, professor? And that keeps | |
| everybody safe!? Is your inner elbow serving like a temporary | |
| n95 mask? Is that your logic teacher? You believe in temporary | |
| or momentary masking just for those special moments like when | |
| one of the forty kids expels a little too much air for your | |
| comfort?? | |
| By the way How is coughing or sneezing into the crevice of one�s | |
| inner elbow any different than wiping your nose on your sleeve | |
| and then walking around? I know it deflects the sneeze a little | |
| but to trust the dexterity of a child ability to deflect an | |
| involuntary sneeze when people are sitting right next to him.. | |
| its ridiculous to think this act alone would prevent an outbreak | |
| for 6 hours a day when someone is in a room sick around 40 | |
| other kids... its just not foolproof advice. Sneezing or | |
| coughing in a mask is probably dangerous enoug with that stuff | |
| shooting out the sides. | |
| Wear a Mask around these know it alls and keep your distance... | |
| trust in physics and trust me, | |
| The Masked Man | |
| P.S. | |
| Pop Quiz for teachers! | |
| Do you understand the principles of airborne diseases? Test your | |
| powers here! in this handy question and answer about airborne | |
| diseases designed for teachers! | |
| Question: | |
| Can you get sick from germs in the air? | |
| Answer: | |
| A range of illnesses�from mild colds to the flu to COVID-19�are | |
| caused by airborne viruses. The COVID-19 pandemic shed new light | |
| on how viruses spread. During the pandemic, scientists learned | |
| that viruses can linger for a long time in the air. In fact, | |
| this may be the main way that many of them infect people. | |
| Its only fair to at least acknowledge that a tool/device exists | |
| in reality such as a safety mask and its primary function is to | |
| prevent one from breathing in harmful particles and has been | |
| used with a degree of success. It is a legitimate option for | |
| people to use and protect themselves with..lets at least bring | |
| it to the public's attention and make the safety mask an option | |
| for people to choose by first acknowledging its existence and | |
| the sole function this device was designed for. | |
| ...with 1,700 students, 200+ staff sick, you have nothing to | |
| lose by acknowledging masks exist to filter out harmful | |
| particles and might be helpful or useful to prevent airborne | |
| illness by those that choose to wear them. | |
| #Post#: 3014-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Data Report Date: February 6, 2025, 8:15 am | |
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| I will be moving this to the school illness tracking thread. | |
| #Post#: 3024-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Masked Man Date: February 6, 2025, 12:42 pm | |
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| Evidently some of my main viewpoints about making masks at least | |
| a viable option for those in schools that chose to wear one is | |
| not shared by the CDC either. It would be at least nice for a | |
| Center of Disease Control to recognize the safety mask as being | |
| a real entity and contribution to the sciences considering many | |
| scientists made use of the safety mask while handling and | |
| studying many of these diseases that were studied through the | |
| electron microscope. Its hard to believe that not even the CDC a | |
| center of diseases control would not pay homage to all the | |
| amazing discoveries made while scientists protected themselves | |
| through this device called the mask that made it all possible to | |
| study germs closely and safely by scientists. | |
| It would be smart for schools and CDC's to at least be | |
| soupourtive of a device that protected their own scientists | |
| over the ages and to be soupourtive of students and people who | |
| chose this very pragmatic means of protecting themselves with | |
| the mask. | |
| All I want is establishments to give people the choice and make | |
| it legal and protect those who chose to mask just like there are | |
| provisions like safety ramps for handicap people. | |
| Nowhere in this following document is the Mask even mentioned | |
| for all the work that has been done behind one on the CDC's | |
| behalf...To not mention the mask's value in this day and age is | |
| really an act of anti-masking. | |
| SUMMARY | |
| Everyday Actions for Schools to Prevent and Control the Spread | |
| of Infections (no mention of Masks as if masks are but a figment | |
| of the imagination in the world of scientific discovery and | |
| medical practices) | |
| LINK (I do not agree for lack of Mask acknowledgment in the | |
| following link): | |
| https://www.cdc.gov/orr/school-preparedness/infection-prevention/actions.html | |
| I'm not asking schools or the CDC to force people to wear masks | |
| but I would like to see some masks on the table along with their | |
| advice of sneezing into the crevice of one's arm to prevent the | |
| spread of airborne disease. Give people a choice and a chance to | |
| mask and not let them suffer social consequences for having | |
| chosen the mask as a viable means of protection. | |
| To not include this tool called the mask when discussing the | |
| various ways of protecting one against airborne diseases is just | |
| downright blasphemous especially for educators and medical | |
| experts. Dangerous particles are dangerous particles... it would | |
| be equally fallacious and ludicrous to not mention the word mask | |
| around people who spray-paint cars for a living. We don't let | |
| people go maskless in the occupational world around dangerous | |
| particles why don't we at least make the mask more socially | |
| acceptable for schools? | |
| Sorry about my long winded speech about Masks but of course: | |
| I must live up to my name, ;) | |
| I'm a masked crusader and a crusader for masks. I jump right in | |
| there when I think masked people's rights might be be violated, | |
| neglected, or ignored by society, | |
| I can't help but be in shock by the omission and lack of mention | |
| about masks by CDC and Schools considering the multitude of | |
| diseases on the scene as we type this including the insidious | |
| tuberculosis (the greatest killer disease of all time so far | |
| already in at least a couple states not to mention influenza | |
| the flu that are wreaking having on people's life in a couple | |
| states not to mention novel diseases which are still relatively | |
| new to us such as covid... I can't believe the omission of the | |
| safety mask as suggestion to the general public's as a viable | |
| feasible pragmatic solution in protecting themselves against | |
| dangerous microscopic entities for the time being. | |
| The Masked Man | |
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| #Post#: 3028-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Masked Man Date: February 6, 2025, 2:41 pm | |
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| NOTE TO MODERATOR: This comment has turned into a lengthy Masked | |
| Man Essay on schools in general and the CDC so I might turn | |
| this reply into a topic of its own and stick it under | |
| MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSIONS at some point.... When you move this | |
| topic to 2025 illnesses in schools Feel free to either leave my | |
| comment in if you feel it is helpful commentary or leave it out | |
| as you see fit. Thank you for your work! :) | |
| #Post#: 3033-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Masked Man Date: February 6, 2025, 6:51 pm | |
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| [By the way I think schools have cancelled classes | |
| approximately(not sure if my counting is exact) twenty one | |
| different states since the beginning of the year so far for | |
| what its worth all over the USA not concentrated in any | |
| particular region of the country. | |
| There were many schools in certain states that closed like a lot | |
| of schools in Tennessee and several closing in many of the same | |
| states occurred . Its interesting to someday map out which | |
| schools are having problems and it would be interesting to see | |
| if hospitals in that area reflected the same illness spikes...no | |
| doubts some of the same demographic spikes in illness should | |
| show in the community the schools are in...you'd think the | |
| parents would also get ill] | |
| #Post#: 3034-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Data Report Date: February 6, 2025, 7:47 pm | |
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| [quote author=Masked Man link=topic=1898.msg3028#msg3028 | |
| date=1738874512] | |
| NOTE TO MODERATOR: This comment has turned into a lengthy Masked | |
| Man Essay on schools in general and the CDC so I might turn | |
| this reply into a topic of its own and stick it under | |
| MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSIONS at some point.... When you move this | |
| topic to 2025 illnesses in schools Feel free to either leave my | |
| comment in if you feel it is helpful commentary or leave it out | |
| as you see fit. Thank you for your work! :) | |
| [/quote] | |
| Go for it and do what you want! | |
| #Post#: 3080-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Oldham County schools using NTI next 3 days due to illnesses | |
| By: Masked Man Date: February 9, 2025, 11:50 pm | |
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| So more thoughts come to me as I see all these schools close. | |
| Its natural for schools to close from time to time because of | |
| the new challenges society faces with illnesses. This should be | |
| expected and and accepted. Although we weren't raised this way, | |
| there is nothing unnatural about being afraid or traumatized | |
| after a life altering illness such as covid.. or a close call | |
| with death as the body is attacked by various illnesses such as | |
| airborne diseases. | |
| There's no need to deny the very real and even useful trauma | |
| that illnesses and and suffering brings us. It seems more than | |
| reasonable for most people to take precautions and learn from | |
| such pain and suffering and even from close calls with death as | |
| illnesses threaten us. Therefore I think we should learn from | |
| the experience and modify our educational institutions (and | |
| other institutions) to reflect this reality. | |
| What am I talking here? I am talking a back up plan which | |
| require mere habits and customs that we adopt. This simply | |
| altering one's behavior or modifying ones behavior until it | |
| becomes 'easy' and feels good and natural. We seek what is good | |
| and avoid what is bad in the face of today's challenges and | |
| realities. | |
| We make it a law that certain store must have wheelchair access | |
| ramps in the US for the same reason we should accommodate those | |
| that have been stricken with the latest challenges such as covid | |
| and of course we should modify schools and businesses to prevent | |
| contagious illnesses so that we can stay open. | |
| As I mentioned earlier a comfortable setting in school for | |
| those that mask should be be encouraged and supported in such a | |
| way those people that mask are respected by their peers and the | |
| school settings and environment should be set up to support the | |
| masked personal space, boundaries , and needs just like there | |
| are ramps for wheelchairs and just like their are seatbelt laws | |
| for people. | |
| With most of these schools that close another thing I notice is | |
| besides a lack of a plan for those that might want to attend | |
| school masked is simply a lack of a back up plan such as remote | |
| and distant learning. Ive seen it at a handful of schools which | |
| is good... some schools say "we will still do assignments and | |
| work online from home while going to school in person is out" | |
| ... this is excellent when schools do remote and distant | |
| learning! | |
| So I think making schools safer where students are "allowed and | |
| encouraged and even rewarded to mask and even have greater | |
| boundaries between one another and a support system amongst | |
| themselves to be safe is smart and teachers and staff should | |
| have the same. Teachers who want to specialize in teaching from | |
| home and teaching students remotely and distantly should be paid | |
| more because it is in our best interest to develop in these | |
| directions and we have those capabilities nowadays. | |
| The electron microscope and the wastewater and the study and | |
| communications are telling us and relaying to us what our | |
| challenges are and that there are microscopic entities involved | |
| and just like knowing what to wear for the weather that day... | |
| ... its all about backup plans. If what we are doing ceases to | |
| work or we keep getting burnt with outbreaks we simply need to | |
| adapt and adopt new ways of doing things that are safer. We need | |
| to change our behavior and truly leave some of the past ways | |
| behind. We need to transform our schools and with the amazing | |
| technology we do have. We do have the ability to study and share | |
| remotely obviously or wouldn't be able to convey these ideas | |
| online as I am. | |
| We must take advantage of the technology we do have such as | |
| online communications to keep one another safe as well as to | |
| share and socialize and to simply survive new challenges society | |
| is facing such as outbreaks and illness threats. They didn't | |
| have online technology and tools like they have today. In the | |
| past societies crumbled from the plague in ancient times.. we | |
| don't have to do things the same as in Roman times or in times | |
| of early 1900's. | |
| We can modify our lives and still be comfortable and still | |
| survive the current outbreaks and the next outbreak and manage | |
| and maintain our lifestyles if we just change our habits and | |
| cultural customs a little here and there to reflect what todays | |
| challenges are up to nowadays. | |
| These modifications and precautions in life aren't a hindrance | |
| to happiness they are part of being happy because the habits | |
| make things better and provide us with security , safety , & | |
| health which happiness depends on .. | |
| ...these are merely habits and customs that society adopt.... | |
| Once a habit is developed it feels good and is natural. :) | |
| The Masked Man | |
| P.S. so much new technology is available to take advantage of to | |
| replace face to face interaction that is not being taken | |
| advantage if.. for instance identification process.. why are | |
| people using driver's license when they have fingerprint scan | |
| device phones and whenever people make transactions they always | |
| scan cards and use cellphones so its really not an issue since | |
| we are already scanning things in front of one another.. Why | |
| should identification be a concern for us masked people when | |
| fingerprint scanning is right there on everybody's phones and | |
| its much more accurate anyway and probably faster and less | |
| problematic than drivers licenses? | |
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