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| US - California - HPAI Thread | |
| By: Steve Date: November 19, 2024, 2:31 pm | |
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| SUMMARY - A child in the state of California is recovering from | |
| an infection of HPAI (Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza). The | |
| source of the infection is unknown and no other family members | |
| of the child seem to have been affected. People who were in | |
| close contact with the child have been notified. This is the | |
| first case in California not to be associated with the dairy | |
| industry. | |
| LINK - | |
| https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-19/alameda-county-child-belie… | |
| https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-19/alameda-county-child-belie… | |
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| Re: US - California - Child recovering from HPAI | |
| By: Masked Man Date: November 19, 2024, 6:01 pm | |
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| �In the article it is mentioned that human-to-human spread of | |
| bird flu has been documented fifteen years ago� so I gather from | |
| this that human to human spread of bird flu has happened in the | |
| past. | |
| According to this news It�s appearing more and more like human | |
| to human transmission of bird flu is likely to occur if not | |
| already occurring. Unless the child has contact with other | |
| creatures from playing in a sandbox or from pets� it�s | |
| definitely speculation as to how the child could have gotten the | |
| virus.. who knows .. could be human to human in daycare as kids | |
| play together pretty close .. we shall see if more cases | |
| continue. | |
| As usual what we know about this is a drop, what we don�t know | |
| is an ocean. It�s disappointing to not even know exactly why | |
| this child is sick. And It�s terrifying that this child is | |
| sick. This could be our child and this could be us next. | |
| . | |
| #Post#: 2412-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: US - California - Child recovering from HPAI | |
| By: Steve Date: November 20, 2024, 1:25 pm | |
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| We can not be certain that what this child experienced was | |
| human-to-human transmission. | |
| Regardless of how this child contracted HPAI (Highly Pathogenic | |
| Avian Influenza), the facts remain: | |
| ** Our surveillance on livestock contamination from HPAI remains | |
| limited. | |
| ** Our knowledge of the severity of that same livestock | |
| contamination remains limited. | |
| ** We are observing more incidents of humans contracting HPAI. | |
| A caveat: Observing more incidents of a condition does not | |
| correlate with an increase in the number of those conditions. | |
| Put simply, if you are not looking for a condition, you tend not | |
| to find it. Once you are looking for a condition, you are more | |
| apt to find it everywhere. Examples include autism (which was | |
| historically dismissed as someone being "simple") & Alzheimer's | |
| (again, historically dismissed as someone simply "getting old"), | |
| which were both traditionally dismissed as other conditions | |
| until the scientific and medical community addressed them as | |
| such. | |
| ** The conditions that we are observing in humans may be "mild" | |
| but they are noticeable. | |
| ** HPAI is well-known in birds and at least one instance in pigs | |
| (which would potentially allow the condition to be more easily | |
| transmissible to humans). | |
| With these and other facts, we must be cognizant that HPAI is a | |
| growing threat to humans. The amount of the increase in that | |
| threat may be debated but the increase itself should not be | |
| debated. | |
| Add to this situation that Covid-19 continues to evolve (as of | |
| this writing, XEC is on the rise but has not become the dominant | |
| strain in the US) and our population faces significant | |
| challenges. A majority of Americans are neither masking nor | |
| getting vaccinated for the latest strains. | |
| While I hope that these challenges do not rise to what occurred | |
| in 2020, we can't guarantee that. It is up to us, those who are | |
| Covid Cautious, to protect ourselves from future hardships as | |
| best as we can. What I am suggesting is not "doom-saying" but | |
| merely a logical extension of the facts as they are presented. | |
| #Post#: 2413-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: US - California - Child recovering from HPAI | |
| By: Masked Man Date: November 20, 2024, 1:49 pm | |
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| Steve, | |
| Very well said! One can't help but admire what I consider are | |
| your sincere scientific observations that 'tell it like it is'. | |
| What you say is substantial and full of reason. You are making | |
| noteworthy points based on observation of real occurrences that | |
| all of us concerned should take heed and live accordingly to | |
| such insights the best we can! | |
| There but for the grace of the mask go I, | |
| The Masked Man | |
| . | |
| #Post#: 2531-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: US - California - HPAI Thread | |
| By: Data Report Date: December 23, 2024, 5:37 pm | |
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| I have changed the title of this thread and going forward we | |
| will use this for all Bird Flu/H5N1 cases in humans in | |
| California. There will also be a national thread but I feel | |
| California deserves its own thread as they have been the hardest | |
| hit by this. Both threads will be pinned in the section. | |
| #Post#: 2532-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: US - California - HPAI Thread | |
| By: Data Report Date: December 23, 2024, 5:40 pm | |
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| Last Wednesday, December 18th California Governor Gavin Newsom | |
| declared a state of emergency due to H5N1 bird flu. | |
| https://www.npr.org/2024/12/18/nx-s1-5233110/bird-flu-first-severe-human-case-c… | |
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| Re: US - California - HPAI Thread | |
| By: Data Report Date: December 24, 2024, 10:00 am | |
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| LA County is now reporting it's 1st Human case of H5N1 Bird Flu. | |
| https://laist.com/news/health/los-angeles-county-bird-flu-first-human-case-h5n1 | |
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