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| #Post#: 2114-------------------------------------------------- | |
| We need to take more measures not less after four and a half yea | |
| rs of mutant virus consistently mutating | |
| By: Masked Man Date: August 24, 2024, 7:13 pm | |
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| Whenever things get worse they just come out with a quick easy | |
| fix called the vaccine.. in four and a half years and after many | |
| variants that evade previous vaccination they(the typical news ) | |
| never advise us to change our behavior or wear masks. We should | |
| do more not less when things get worse. We are ignoring two | |
| crucial things : one is declaring the truly preventative | |
| measures such as behavior modification and mask wearing | |
| including mask education and practical masking strategies and | |
| the other thing is long covid � covid and long covid isn�t | |
| prevented by vaccines therefore or we can only expect a new | |
| variant to come along soon .. long covid can occur in people who | |
| have mild or even no symptoms and long covid isn�t easily | |
| diagnosed or shows up in wastewater tests and theoretically the | |
| amount of long covid victims could pile up cases overlapping | |
| astronomically every four months so that after a year you�ve got | |
| an enormous ratio of long covid people useless burden to | |
| themselves and others. Even if people�s immunity grows stronger, | |
| time after time (four and a half years now)new variants keep | |
| coming along and if they keep forming at the rate they�ve been | |
| coming it just means more covid and more long covid for | |
| everybody. | |
| Personally I�m a mask pusher, | |
| I have a pet peeve in that it is admitted vaccines do not | |
| prevent the disease so I really get upset at people who take | |
| vaccines but don�t mask up .. because contradiction in behavior | |
| and willingness to take a vaccine but not wear a mask for a | |
| mutating disease, I can�t help but believe vaccines can give a | |
| false sense of security for people to go maskless .. if vaccines | |
| don�t prevent long covid nor the spread of covid then that�s | |
| seriously bad in the long run. The rate of long covid victims | |
| will accumulate with every new major variant which appears like | |
| four times a year average.. the long covid victims will grow and | |
| grow. If you don�t prevent covid then you are spreading it. | |
| What is the likelihood of a new variant coming out just about | |
| the time everybody gets the latest booster/vaccine? | |
| If you really want to prevent the next variant, I urge loved | |
| ones and contacts to wear the mask if you are willing to take a | |
| shot for the very same reasons, | |
| The Masked Man | |
| P.s while I am a mere layperson on the subject, remember Fauci , | |
| Biden and many other internal medicine advocates have all caught | |
| Covid and therefore spread covid numerous times to many others | |
| whereas I the Masked Man have not caught covid or any airborne | |
| contagious diseases in four and half years straight with my | |
| practices. | |
| Never forget the catcher of covid is always the passer or giver | |
| as well! You might be able to live with covid but can you live | |
| with having given it to so many others!? | |
| #Post#: 2124-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: We need to take more measures not less after four and a half | |
| years of mutant virus consistently mutating | |
| By: Steve Date: August 26, 2024, 2:25 pm | |
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| [quote author=Masked Man link=topic=1503.msg2114#msg2114 | |
| date=1724544781] | |
| Whenever things get worse they just come out with a quick easy | |
| fix called the vaccine..[/quote] | |
| I would not consider that the creation of mRNA vaccines were a | |
| quick fix; The underlying science behind mRNA vaccines goes back | |
| decades. We should be thankful that the technology to create | |
| mRNA vaccines had matured to a point where it could be useful | |
| for this particular situation. | |
| [quote author=Masked Man link=topic=1503.msg2114#msg2114 | |
| date=1724544781]We are ignoring two crucial things : one is | |
| declaring the truly preventative measures such as behavior | |
| modification and mask wearing including mask education and | |
| practical masking strategies[/quote] | |
| I must agree that wearing masks (and, in this application, N95 | |
| or equivalent) has been highly beneficial in limiting the risk | |
| of exposure to Covid and other airborne-based viruses. I | |
| completely endorse their use beyond our current situation | |
| concerning Covid. As our population increases and as our | |
| population density increases, we must be mindful that our | |
| actions (or lack of actions) have consequences. Mitigating such | |
| viruses with masking is a strategy that every population ought | |
| to take for a variety of reasons, including social and economic. | |
| [quote author=Masked Man link=topic=1503.msg2114#msg2114 | |
| date=1724544781]I have a pet peeve in that it is admitted | |
| vaccines do not prevent the disease so I really get upset at | |
| people who take vaccines but don�t mask up .. because | |
| contradiction in behavior and willingness to take a vaccine but | |
| not wear a mask for a mutating disease, I can�t help but believe | |
| vaccines can give a false sense of security for people to go | |
| maskless .. if vaccines don�t prevent long covid nor the spread | |
| of covid then that�s seriously bad in the long run.[/quote] | |
| My understanding is that the vaccines were never intent on | |
| limiting spread but only reducing the degree of which someone | |
| suffers from Covid once they were infected. A combination of | |
| masking, vaccination and behavior modification (such as avoiding | |
| large crowds when possible) is the best-known strategy for | |
| limiting the spread of any airborne-based virus, Covid or | |
| otherwise. | |
| [quote author=Masked Man link=topic=1503.msg2114#msg2114 | |
| date=1724544781]What is the likelihood of a new variant coming | |
| out just about the time everybody gets the latest | |
| booster/vaccine?[/quote] | |
| No one knows when the next prominent Covid variant will emerge | |
| or exactly why. This uncertainty makes taking the precautions | |
| that are available to us that much more important. We have seen | |
| so far that Covid continues to progress and our vigilance needs | |
| to continue until the mortality numbers are so low as to be | |
| indistinguishable from random occurrence. | |
| #Post#: 2146-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: We need to take more measures not less after four and a half | |
| years of mutant virus consistently mutating | |
| By: Masked Man Date: August 29, 2024, 12:56 am | |
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| Thank you Steve, for your input. | |
| Also, thank you for your role as global moderator and your time, | |
| dedication, and devotion to this wonderful forum. :) | |
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