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| Wet Sump Two Stroke Engine | |
| By: joe_indi Date: February 7, 2023, 7:47 am | |
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| This might seem a crazy idea, but I have been worrying it for | |
| years now. | |
| I read an article about why two stroke are highly polluting the | |
| reason being they need oil in the fuel mix for lubrication | |
| because they use a dry sump and ports through the cylinder | |
| interconnecting the combustion and intake areas. Having valves | |
| would help but then valves would need to run at crankshaft rpm | |
| causing valve float at working rpm. | |
| I thought why there are two stroke diesels that run without this | |
| issue. But they need turbo chargers to supply the air and they | |
| use valves only at the exhaust, but the porting is still | |
| complex with lots of overlap. But in spite of all this the two | |
| stroke diesel is claimed to be more efficient that its four | |
| stroke counter part. | |
| If i were to think of an alternative my priority would be to get | |
| the cam down to half speed of the crankshaft, but that would | |
| open and close the valve at the four stroke speed. Well, I | |
| thought why not add another valve that works directly opposite | |
| to the first valve? | |
| For the past 10 years this had been a thought but seemed an | |
| impossibility when complex camshafts, timing belts or chain and | |
| head ports were even thought of. | |
| But then this morning I was worrying this issue around like a | |
| bone because our two strokes seem backed up against the wall, | |
| because since yesterday the whole country is going for E20. | |
| I had read this article that claims anything above E10 is not | |
| going to do any good to two strokes with carbs | |
| https://blog.stihl.co.uk/how-will-e10-petrol-affect-your-stihl-chainsaw/ | |
| And this adds more to the gloom | |
| https://blog.stihl.co.uk/e10-fuel-faqs/ | |
| I had been theorizing about making the chainsaw and brushcutter | |
| engines "inefficient by adding thicker cylinder gaskets or | |
| retarding the ignition timing to meet this issue , when the | |
| keyword inefficient hit me and then I thought of side valve flat | |
| heads for wet sump two strokes . | |
| Why not use the same set up as in those old flat head side | |
| valve engines that had inlet and exhaust on the same side. And, | |
| very importantly, simple wet sumps that never even needed an oil | |
| pump, but a simple splasher. Both the valves in this design | |
| could work alternatively as exhaust valves. And, valve timings | |
| just cannot go wrong because both valves are activated by the | |
| same cam lobe. The only work here is to make both valves and | |
| their ports equal/identical. | |
| Then the thought was what about the inlet?. I dont think a turbo | |
| is necessary only some kind of blower to give a higher positive | |
| pressure than atmospheric pressure. Maybe some kind of injector | |
| could 'charge' the air. Some kind of valve maybe a simple | |
| butterfly could help give the required variable throttle. | |
| I have all this in my mind now, but, I dont know where that | |
| inlet should be. That flat head with only a spark plug seems the | |
| ideal place, or should it be a port on the cylinder wall that is | |
| opened when the piston is on the downward stroke. Mechanics, | |
| engineers, I would welcome suggestions on this. | |
| Someone might say "You have not thought of ignition" , well I | |
| have thought of ignition and I know it needs no work because | |
| these engines have the cdi or pointless ignition system usually | |
| mounted at the flywheel so that it generates sparking current at | |
| every stroke. | |
| I am already eyeballing a locally available Chinese side valve | |
| engine, probably a B&S clone. | |
| Right now as a first step all I want it to do is run like a two | |
| stroke, without oil mixed in the fuel (naturally) for a few | |
| seconds, using a small blower and a soaked ball of cotton to do | |
| the function of that air fuel mixture. | |
| Do I drill a port on the cylinder wall or on the head, that is | |
| where I need advice and why | |
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