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#Post#: 480774-------------------------------------------------- |
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Cubs in �24 |
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By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 7:54 am |
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Discuss what lies ahead� |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 7:55 am |
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And yeah�let�s start with this� |
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https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2023/10/02/pete-alonso-interest-cubs-1/ |
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What�s your best offer for 1 year (and potentially more) of Pete |
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Alonso? |
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#Post#: 480778-------------------------------------------------- |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2023, 8:20 am |
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My great fear is that Hoyer is going to pillage the farm system |
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it took so much tanking to build in order to try and remain |
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borderline competitive without having to ask PTR to go into the |
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tax. Not at all interested in Alonso as a rental - he'll cost |
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more than he's worth. |
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#Post#: 480787-------------------------------------------------- |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 11:12 am |
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What if he comes with a new deal? What kind of deal would you |
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offer him? |
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#Post#: 480792-------------------------------------------------- |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: CUBluejays Date: October 3, 2023, 2:54 pm |
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Goldschmidt got traded to the Cardinals for Carson Kelly, Luke |
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Weaver, Andrew Young and a comp B pick. He then signed an |
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extension for 5 years, $130 million before becoming a free |
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agent. |
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Goldschmidt is better than Alonso. |
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So Amaya, Assad and Jared Young and 5 years, $100 million. |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2023, 3:04 pm |
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BN now reporting that the interest is mutual�Alonso wants to be |
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a Cub� |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: CUBluejays Date: October 3, 2023, 3:09 pm |
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Then let him force his way onto the Cubs for peanuts. BN was |
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quoting Jessie Rogers. |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2023, 4:24 pm |
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[quote author=Dave23 link=topic=628.msg480787#msg480787 |
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date=1696349534] |
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What if he comes with a new deal? What kind of deal would you |
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offer him? |
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[/quote] |
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Mervis and Smyly. As for a contract, no more than 5 years at |
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around $20-22M. Neither of which would be enough, so fine. |
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Alonso does one thing very well, hit HRs. A very valuable skill |
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no doubt, and he's elite at it. Pretty much average or worse at |
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every other facet of the game and unlikely to age well. |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: craig Date: October 3, 2023, 6:50 pm |
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[quote author=Playtwo link=topic=616.msg480741#msg480741 |
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date=1696288760] |
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Hendricks is a lock to be in the rotation. Probably with Steele, |
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Stroman, Wicks, and Taillon to start the season if all are |
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healthy. |
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[/quote] |
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I posted this idea a couple weeks ago. And Curt won't like it! |
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But I'd like to see the Cubs intentionally schedule in rest |
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windows for their old veterans. Hendricks, Taillon, Stroman. I |
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think these older guys in their 30's with 900-1500 innings, I |
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think they just get tired. Big strong Jon Lester would run into |
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dead-arm periods every summer, I think that just tends to happen |
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for finesse guys after a thousand innings. If you're going to |
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ride 32-34-year-old guys finesse guys, protect them, keep them |
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fresh, and give them opportunity to be at their best. |
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Likewise for Wicks and Assad, Horton and Brown, guys who have |
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been protected and used cautiously in the minors. |
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Could allow you to keep the vets you've already committed to, |
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but still try to upgrade? Both keep Hendricks at $12.5 in what |
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seems like a fair-value deal. But still add one upside FA, |
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whether one of the Japanese guys or somebody else with ceiling? |
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Re: Cubs in �24 |
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By: craig Date: October 3, 2023, 7:01 pm |
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Curt has mentioned concern with short-stat starters, and then |
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look-for-today's-loser use of one-inning relievers. |
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I think strengthening the bullpen is crucial. A lot looks |
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different if the bullpen is good and deep and trustworthy. |
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Wesneski, Cuas, Little, Palencia, those are all |
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limited-experience guys who can look good on occasion, but are |
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all wild and wildly inconsistent. I could imagine hoping |
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"infrastructure" can improve them all, and if so all of a sudden |
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you've got a deep staff. Or maybe wild is wild, and nothing |
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changes. |
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Will be curious to see what Hoyer does. |
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