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| Online Fundraising | |
| By: DaDancingPsych Date: December 29, 2022, 7:05 am | |
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| This has happened to me a few times in similar ways and I am | |
| curious about your feelings. | |
| A few weeks back, my Facebook feed had a solicitation for money | |
| posted by someone I know. (In this case, it was for a college | |
| sport team trip and while the person is now an adult, I worked | |
| with this person in this activity when they were in high | |
| school.) I wanted to give money, so I did. While the website | |
| that their group is using sent me a confirmation / thank you for | |
| my donation, I never received any sort of personal | |
| acknowledgement from this person. To me this is the same as | |
| giving a gift that doesn�t receive a thank you note, so this | |
| will be the last time that I donate to this person. But maybe I | |
| shouldn�t see it as a gift like you would for a wedding or | |
| birthday? | |
| To add to the insult, the website sent me a message a few days | |
| back telling me that their campaign was coming to a conclusion, | |
| but they had not met their goal. It suggested that I share it | |
| with friends / family. I�m sure that the person that I know had | |
| nothing to do with this message, but that felt rude in the | |
| absence of no personal acknowledge. The website sent another | |
| message this morning telling me that this was the last day and | |
| suggested that I should increase my donation to help them meet | |
| their goal. Again, this felt rude to me, but maybe Brimstoners | |
| feel differently? | |
| I don�t plan to do anything, so I�m not looking for advice in | |
| that area. Like I said, I will be much less likely to donate to | |
| this person in the future. However, I wonder what the manners | |
| around something like this are or maybe how they should be. | |
| Thoughts? | |
| #Post#: 78213-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Online Fundraising | |
| By: Hmmm Date: December 29, 2022, 9:34 am | |
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| A couple of thoughts. | |
| 1. I'm not sure if the person who had posted the link requesting | |
| donations would actually get info back from the online tool | |
| alerting them of your donation and especially that it was done | |
| because you saw the post on this person's feed. I often see | |
| friends of those requesting donations via an online feed making | |
| a comment that they've just made a donation. If you alerted the | |
| person or are sure they were alerted from another source that | |
| you had made the donation at their request, then I can see being | |
| upset that they didn't acknowledge your gift. | |
| 2. I don't see giving to a third party charitable donation | |
| someone supports as being the same thing as giving a gift to | |
| them. I have a niece who is highly involved in shelter program. | |
| She'll often post a link to donate to the animal rescue | |
| organization. If I do make a contribution and I will sometimes | |
| comment under her post that I made a donation she will often | |
| post a thanks. But I see that as a "thanks for supporting the | |
| organization I support" not thanking me for a gift given to her. | |
| 3. Requesting additional donations from donors who have made a | |
| previous donation has been going on for as long as fundraising | |
| has been occurring. It's just easier now to have the automatic | |
| mass emails sent out than it used to be to either call a donor | |
| or to send out a letter asking for more donations. I'm not sure | |
| why I'd see the email you received as an insult. The | |
| organization that you sent money to acknowledged your | |
| contribution. They then tried to get you to donate more. It's a | |
| very standard practice. | |
| #Post#: 78216-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Online Fundraising | |
| By: DaDancingPsych Date: December 29, 2022, 10:57 am | |
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| Thanks for your thoughts! You always have great insight, Hmmm! | |
| 1. I'm not sure if the individual got some kind of alert to my | |
| donation, although if they did not, then I would say that's a | |
| fail to the website. If the website is able to prompt me for | |
| more exposure and money, it should also alert the individual | |
| (and probably should promote something like a personal | |
| connection.) However, there was a wall where you could leave | |
| messages and I did so. I also identified at least six people | |
| that I know who also donated on that wall, so the person would | |
| know at least some of the people who donated. But it's possible | |
| that the website was set-up and they never looked again. | |
| 2. I do agree that giving to a charity is not giving the | |
| individual a gift. I may donate in honor of their wedding or | |
| birthday, but I am giving to the charity. (And despite them | |
| supporting the organization, I would only support the | |
| organization if it something that I believe in and not just to | |
| celebrate them.) And I have done this in the past and the person | |
| never contacted me directly (and maybe it's not their | |
| responsibility in that case?) | |
| In today's example, the group that I donated to is not a | |
| charity. It is a college team traveling for a big match. So the | |
| money either went to the individual that I know or to the entire | |
| group to pay for their travel costs. | |
| 3. Charities have certainly come back to me asking for more | |
| money. I do find it somewhat annoying, but I also understand | |
| that I have been identified as someone willing to support their | |
| cause. I don't fault them for checking in a few months later. | |
| However, I am trying to recall when a student activity has come | |
| back asking for more money. Sure, the Girl Scouts will knock on | |
| my door annually, but to me they are gaining funds for a new | |
| year / new projects / new trips, not the same one. Either way, | |
| I'm not upset about the email, but it would have been much more | |
| effective if the individual would have contacted me personally | |
| first. My brain might have said, "Dennis really appreciated my | |
| donation, so I can throw in a few more bucks to help them to | |
| their goal / so I can repost this so others see it." | |
| However, it sounds like you think that the person has no | |
| responsibility to contact me directly, so maybe I am expecting | |
| too much. | |
| #Post#: 78217-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Online Fundraising | |
| By: oogyda Date: December 29, 2022, 12:17 pm | |
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| DDP, your second post answered the question I had about what | |
| exactly you were sending money in support of. So, thank you. | |
| No matter what, I think that someone who is actively soliciting | |
| donations has an obligation to track those donations and send | |
| acknowledgements and thanks to those who donated from their | |
| request. | |
| So often nowadays, charity donation sites and crowdfunding sites | |
| make it all too easy to take care of everything that | |
| organizations and individuals often forget that there are social | |
| obligations to be met as well. They probably don't have any | |
| control over the follow up hounding for donations. | |
| In the past, I have been requested by a family member to donate | |
| to support their group's travel. It was a cause I felt like | |
| supporting so I sent relative a check with a note that I'd | |
| rather her group get all of it rather than having to pay the | |
| fundraising website their fee. It was only 5%, but with enough | |
| donations, that could make a huge difference. | |
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