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#Post#: 78010--------------------------------------------------
The Santa Problem
By: Lilipons Date: December 8, 2022, 3:10 pm
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On other boards I�ve known there are usually posts about what to
say or do when children learn the truth about Santa Claus.
I haven�t seen that here but my mother handled it beautifully
and I thought others here might enjoy the story.
I had my suspicions about Santa from about the age of 4. I was a
very early reader and I was told that the labels on the toys
referred to the elf who made the product. I could believe in an
elf named Hasbro or Mattel. I could certainly believe that a
beautiful female elf named Venus Paradise made those wonderful
colored pencils I so enjoyed. However, Milton Bradley was a
problem. He sounded more like a guy who carried a briefcase to
work and handled the accounts than an elf who made toys.
My suspicions were confirmed when I started 1st grade at the age
of 6. When the year drew to a close my school friends would
talk about getting a visit from Santa and the cookies and milk
they would leave for his snack.
In our house we thought Santa required more substantial
nourishment. Mom cooked the bird on Christmas Eve Afternoon.By
the time I was to go to bed, Santa was provided with a warm
sandwich of capon breast meat, a bit of hot sauce and a glass of
beer. That was exactly what my father would have chosen for a
Christmas Eve snack.
Mom figured out what was happening. After school we sat down to
have cookies and tea. Cookies and milk was a usual thing.
Cookies and tea meant something very Grown-up was on the agenda.
�Lili, I know that you know the truth Santa is really grown-ups
who like to see little children happy at Christmas. Now that
you know, you�re oLd enough to become a Santa yourself. At your
age, all that means is not telling younger children that Santa
doesn�t exist. That won�t be a lie because Santa DOES exist.
It�s just that Santa isn�t one fat man in a red suit. there are
Santa�s all around us.
#Post#: 78011--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: TootsNYC Date: December 8, 2022, 3:28 pm
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I realized the truth about Santa when Mrs. Claus wasn't able to
finish sewing the bride doll's gown before Christmas. That was
SO like something my mother would do...
And she had the same answer: "Santa is the idea, the game, the
generosity that means someone wants to give you exactly what you
want for Christmas."
And Santa brought us presents until we turned 18 and were not
children anymore.
That was the thing that most upset my kids when they found
out--they thought the whole present thing would be over, and
they loved it.
My own theory was that Santa was the one person who would
bring you exactly what you asked for. Of course, I would steer
them into asking him (at Macy's) for something achievable for
me.
#Post#: 78012--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: Lilipons Date: December 8, 2022, 4:39 pm
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thank you, Toots.
I had a cousin who was a year older than me. she knew what was
going on with Santa at about the same ageI did. But, at the age
of 12, she still pretended that she believed in Santa and wrote
him an annual letter.
Her rationale was that she�d get more and better presents if her
parents thought she believed.
she really expected that, if she was a �good girl� Santawould
bring her a car when she turned 16.
Her parents seriously considered therapy.
#Post#: 78017--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: Hmmm Date: December 9, 2022, 9:07 am
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It's interesting how kids feel when they learn there really is a
huge global conspiracy about Santa; how some feel like they've
been lied to while others enjoy being in the know now. I always
found it intriguing that a concept like our "modern" Santa has
endured for almost 2 centuries. "A Visit from St. Nicholas" was
first published in 1823. I'm hoping for lots of "Twas the Night
Before Christmas" events next year.
Being youngest of 4, I started figuring out the Santa thing
pretty early too. I started doubting when I was 4 and my older
siblings worked hard to try and convince me Santa was real. At 5
I decided I was going to sleep in the living room where the tree
was on Christmas Eve. The problem with the plan is 1) I was
never a late night child so was out by around 9pm. 2) I was a
hard sleeper (our neighbors house burned down when I was 6 and I
slept through the entire thing even through my bedroom window
faced the front of the house where all the action was). There is
a photo of me on a blanket with my pillow sleeping by the tree.
My sisters later told me when we were much older that they went
outside and started ringing bells and clomping on the porch to
wake me up and think Santa was coming but I never rousted.
The next morning I woke up in my bed. I asked how I got there
and was told that Santa must have carried me to bed because I
was still there when they went to sleep.
I still had my doubts but I figured I should continue to play
along with family because they seemed to want me to really
believe. If my friends still believed I said I still believed
too. I never actually acknowledge to my parents that I didn't
believe in Santa. Presents from Santa "appeared" for all 4 of us
until they passed away.
My favorite was when my niece, the first grandchild, was around
4 and they were visiting with my parents. She was determined to
not go to sleep. We were all in the living room with the tree
and having read 8 different Christmas stories, one of my sisters
said "Hannah, look outside! See that red dot! I think that's
Santa and Rudolph. You better go to bed before he gets here."
The poor child flew into a panic and insisted that not only did
she need to go to sleep but the entire household had to go to
bed and wouldn't go settle into her bed until she saw all of us
in our beds and forbade us to go back to the front of the house.
I was 16 and was pretty annoyed because my boyfriend was coming
over to pick me up to go to Midnight Mass with his family. I
tried to say I'd just go ahead and leave but the 4 year old over
ruled that too so I had to quickly get into my pajamas and then
wait for a half hour in bed till I got the cue from her mother
that she was asleep and I could get back up and get dressed. But
all Christmas Day, Hanna gabbed about seeing Rudolph's nose and
then later hearing the sleigh on the house.
A few nights later we are all back in the same room and Hannah
looks outside and sees the same blinking red light, and turns on
all of us and stomps her foot that we had lied to her and that
hadn't been Rudolph at all and we just tricked her into going to
bed. She was pretty pouty with all of us for the rest of the
visit. She's now over 40 and jokes she has lifelong trust issues
because of that one event.
#Post#: 78025--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: vintagegal Date: December 9, 2022, 5:58 pm
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I was the youngest child, and I don't remember ever believing in
Santa. We set out cookies and Coke for him, but I knew my dad
would eat them.
#Post#: 78047--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: STiG Date: December 11, 2022, 9:57 pm
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In our house, it was mincemeat tarts and a can of Coke for
Santa. My Dad was a die hard - he did all sorts of crazy
things, making sleigh tracks and hoof prints and footsteps on
the roof over to the chimney. I'm sure all the neighbours
thought he was nuts.
I was a late believer; I think I was 9! My brother and I would
leave our letters to Santa on the fireplace hearth. My brother
was almost 5 years older. His letter that year ended with 'Oh,
and by the way, Santa, could you please fix my snowmobile?' In
my Dad's handwriting the next morning was, 'Fix your own damn
snowmobile; what do you think I am? A mechanic?'
When my nephews were little, they made reindeer food at day
care, which was a mixture of oats and other grains and some
glitter. When my Dad asked the youngest one what the glitter
was for, he said that it was so the reindeer could find it. He
and his Mom spread it out on the front yard. The next day,
there were hoof prints everywhere! But there were no late night
adult shenanigans; our local wild deer popped in for a snack.
This same boy learned that Santa wasn't a physical being the
year he saw my brother's coworker changing into the Santa suit.
Little smarty pants kept his mouth shut for another couple of
years to make sure he still got Santa presents.
We now have our own grandson. DH was dressed as Santa for a
Christmas party today and our DD and SIL brought him down. We
got the perfect shot of baby looking up at Santa and Santa
looking down at baby. It is an absolute keeper.
#Post#: 78050--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: Aleko Date: December 12, 2022, 2:50 am
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[quote]When my nephews were little, they made reindeer food at
day care, which was a mixture of oats and other grains and some
glitter. When my Dad asked the youngest one what the glitter
was for, he said that it was so the reindeer could find it. He
and his Mom spread it out on the front yard. The next day,
there were hoof prints everywhere! But there were no late night
adult shenanigans; our local wild deer popped in for a
snack.[/quote]
Oh God, the poor deer! I hope it didn�t kill them; it certainly
can�t have done them any good. What a horrible, horrible idea.
Please, people, don�t try this at home yourselves!
#Post#: 78079--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: STiG Date: December 14, 2022, 10:15 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2433.msg78050#msg78050
date=1670835021]
[quote]When my nephews were little, they made reindeer food at
day care, which was a mixture of oats and other grains and some
glitter. When my Dad asked the youngest one what the glitter
was for, he said that it was so the reindeer could find it. He
and his Mom spread it out on the front yard. The next day,
there were hoof prints everywhere! But there were no late night
adult shenanigans; our local wild deer popped in for a
snack.[/quote]
Oh God, the poor deer! I hope it didn�t kill them; it certainly
can�t have done them any good. What a horrible, horrible idea.
Please, people, don�t try this at home yourselves!
[/quote]
The deer were fine. The glitter passes right through their
system with no issues. And the oats and grains were good for
them.
#Post#: 78082--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: random numbers Date: December 14, 2022, 11:20 am
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[quote author=STiG link=topic=2433.msg78079#msg78079
date=1671034512]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2433.msg78050#msg78050
date=1670835021]
[quote]When my nephews were little, they made reindeer food at
day care, which was a mixture of oats and other grains and some
glitter. When my Dad asked the youngest one what the glitter
was for, he said that it was so the reindeer could find it. He
and his Mom spread it out on the front yard. The next day,
there were hoof prints everywhere! But there were no late night
adult shenanigans; our local wild deer popped in for a
snack.[/quote]
Oh God, the poor deer! I hope it didn�t kill them; it certainly
can�t have done them any good. What a horrible, horrible idea.
Please, people, don�t try this at home yourselves!
[/quote]
The deer were fine. The glitter passes right through their
system with no issues. And the oats and grains were good for
them.
[/quote]
Zoos use glitter to identify which animals are eating which
specific foods all the time.
#Post#: 78088--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Santa Problem
By: Asharah Date: December 14, 2022, 7:10 pm
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[quote author=random numbers link=topic=2433.msg78082#msg78082
date=1671038409]
[quote author=STiG link=topic=2433.msg78079#msg78079
date=1671034512]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=2433.msg78050#msg78050
date=1670835021]
[quote]When my nephews were little, they made reindeer food at
day care, which was a mixture of oats and other grains and some
glitter. When my Dad asked the youngest one what the glitter
was for, he said that it was so the reindeer could find it. He
and his Mom spread it out on the front yard. The next day,
there were hoof prints everywhere! But there were no late night
adult shenanigans; our local wild deer popped in for a
snack.[/quote]
Oh God, the poor deer! I hope it didn�t kill them; it certainly
can�t have done them any good. What a horrible, horrible idea.
Please, people, don�t try this at home yourselves!
[/quote]
The deer were fine. The glitter passes right through their
system with no issues. And the oats and grains were good for
them.
[/quote]
Zoos use glitter to identify which animals are eating which
specific foods all the time.
[/quote]
I think they have edible glitter to decorate cookies &
cakes[emoji513]
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