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New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Attack_690 Date: July 14, 2016, 2:24 pm
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Hello everyone,
New to this forum.
I purchased my 690 Enduro R 3 months ago and have about 1,500
miles already on it. Love the bike, however it has seemingly
burned almost 4 liters of oil since I've owned it in 3 months!!!
Taking it to the dealer next week to see about some warranty
work ::)
I also have a 2015 1290 Super Duke R. That bike has been
flawless and has about 5,000 miles on it.
Look forward to hanging around the forum.
FYI I'm also an engine builder/tuner at Attack Performance in
Huntington Beach. I've worked on the 690's and have tuned both
the 690 and 1290 here on our dyno.
Just wanted to stop in and say hello!
-Attack_690
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Philip Pino Date: July 16, 2016, 4:06 pm
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These engines all burn a little oil, but you have something else
wrong. I just did a trip from San Diego to Pike's Peak, to
Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Crater Lake, San Francisco and back.
I added about 1/4 of a quart of oil. The Trip was 10 days and
4200 miles. How you break-in the engine will effect the engines
oil consumption.
#Post#: 3668--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Attack_690 Date: July 19, 2016, 11:19 am
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Bike goes to the dealer today. I've monitored the oil
consumption with pictures of the odometer, sight glass empty,
sight glass filled, and the measured amount out of a fresh liter
of oil what it took to top off the bike. I just burned through 1
liter of Motorex in 150 miles!!!
We will see what KTM will do to resolve the issue. My guess is a
top end rebuild...
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: mcnut Date: July 19, 2016, 11:56 am
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[quote author=Attack_690 link=topic=652.msg3668#msg3668
date=1468945196]I just burned through 1 liter of Motorex in 150
miles!!![/quote]
Strange, a liter every 150 miles (aprox 3 gal gas) which works
out to 12:1! You certainly would not need photos of a sight
glass to prove your point because you wouldn't be able to see
the sight glass through all the smoke. For me something doesn't
add up.
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Attack_690 Date: July 19, 2016, 12:23 pm
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Bike is not smoking. As soon as you get off the machine all you
can smell is burning oil. Capacity is only 1.7 liters. It's been
doing it since day one. Even the break-in oil was getting
consumed. There are no leaks from the engine except for some oil
in the air box (small amount) and there is a few drops of oil
dripping from the intake manifold boot to the throttle body.
The bike has consumed so much oil its crazy. I was going to
perform a leak down test on the engine, but decided there is no
reason to since the machine is covered under warranty. There is
no question the engine is consuming the oil. I have lots of
photos to prove that. Very interested to see how KTM takes care
of the problem. Dropping the bike off after work. ::)
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: mcnut Date: July 19, 2016, 6:08 pm
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I will be interested to hear what they say.
Bruce
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Philip Pino Date: July 19, 2016, 6:51 pm
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Good luck, and keep us posted.
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Attack_690 Date: July 20, 2016, 10:49 am
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Dropped off the bike last night. I know the dealership very well
as our shop does a lot of business with them. I also know the
two mechanics that will be working on the bike. They took my
submitted photos and said they will do the standard things like
compression/leak down test and see how KTM advises them to
proceed. I should know what is up I'm told by the
weekend........
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Attack_690 Date: July 22, 2016, 6:16 pm
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Dealership confirmed that the bike has excessive leak down past
the piston rings. I've told them that since the get-go...
Picking up the bike to flog this weekend and mount some new
rubber. They will contact me when to bring it back in for
repair. Bike is mint. Hopefully the dealership mechanics took
care of her well. Being an engine builder and a professional
mechanic I cringe thinking of anybody working on my machines
except for myself. ::)
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Re: New Member with a 16' that burns oil like CRAZZZZYYYY!!!
By: Attack_690 Date: July 23, 2016, 2:02 pm
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Picked up the bike yesterday. Turns out KTM told the tech the 6%
leakdown was good and they won't warranty anything until there
is 4k miles on the odometer. Also they want me to switch back to
dinosaur blood for oil. They said the bike will never "break in"
fully if you don't run the dinosaur blood in the engine to 4k
miles! Well, I'm sure I'm not the only one that has put full
synthetic Motorex in the bike at the first oil change over 600
miles... They don't state this in the owners/service manual, but
say this is the reason for the excessive oil burning. They also
stated that it is within tolerance to consume 1cc of oil per
mile. That is an insane amount to burn! I told them that if at
4k miles the bike is still consuming copious amounts of oil I
will be back immediately. I also told them KTM should supply me
the oil as I've already wasted over $100 in oil that has been
burned. They agreed immediately. We will see what happens in the
next 2300 miles.
Anyways just wanted to let the community know of the issue which
is already known and of what KTM has said and what KTM is
willing to do...
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