SUBJECT: VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ROSEWELL AUTOPSY                   FILE: UFO3317






            VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ROSEWELL AUTOPSY

(This information is shared on our Web Site and comes from
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The information in this page is an example of Information we
hope to share.  It comes from posts on the Newsnet sharing
information published in a British Magazine.  While the
video footage has not been confirmed, I (Joshua) did get a
call from a friend who said a mutual friend of ours meet
Colin Andrews, a leading British Crop Circle Researcher, who
confirmed he had viewed this footage.  I believe it is only
a question of time before official confirmation of UFOs is
announced and this video may be one of the catalyst to help
this situation.

Joshua

The following information was published in the January 1995
issue of The Circle Hunter magazine, published in England
(information on this magazine below).

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(Begin magazine text)

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Stop Press:  Video Footage of Roswell Autopsy Discovered

Less than 15 hours before we were due to go to press, Reg
Presley appeared on the BBC morning chat show, "Good Morning
with Anne and Nick."  He disclosed some interesting
information concerning the Roswell alleged UFO crash.  This
is how the interview went (although Reg was supposed to be
discussing the subject of crop circles on the chat show, he
wasted no time in launching into the latest information
concerning the Roswell case).

(Concerning the alleged UFO crash at Roswell): "If you think
that you aren't going to find out about that, I have some
great information.  I was speaking to a producer the other
day who has just got hold of some film footage of the
autopsy done on the aliens."  This was followed by shocked
reactions from Anne and Nick who bombarded Reg with
questions as fast as they could before the end of the
transmission in five minutes' time.

They were over in America searching for some old Elvis film.
This old guy, now about 76, said, 'If you think that this
Elvis Presley footage is fantastic, what do you think about
this?', and from underneath his bed he pulled out 15
cartridges of old film, and he said, 'I thought this was so
important at the time that I made a copy and I didn't tell
anyone and I've said nothing since.'"

"Have you seen this?" Reg was questioned.

"I've seen the film, and the film has been analysed and it
is original 1947 footage."

"What does the video show?" Anne asked him

"It shows an alien being worked on, in an autopsy, by
humans. I've seen one (alien), but I believe there are three
more.  There's 15 reels of this, so there's 150 minutes of
the crash site, debris, and the autopsy."

"How do you know it's an alien from what you've seen?"
probed Anne.

"Well, it doesn't look like you and I!"  Reg joked.  "It's
longer than we've been led to believe.  We've been led to
believe that they're four feet (in height), but the one I
have seen has to be six feet or more."

Although it remains to be seen what the outcome of this
whole case is, if it is a genuine piece of footage then it
will be a huge step forward in the Roswell case.  If there's
footage on the cine film of the crash site as well, then it
would certainly add credibility to the whole case.  It will
be interesting to see how this footage turns out...

-  Anthony Horn

(End of magazine text)

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It has been reported that the U.S. television show,
Encounters, has purchased a copy of this footage for
$150,000 and plans to air it later in the year.  There is
another report that there will be two private showings of
the footage within two weeks; one showing will take place in
L.A., the other on the East Coast. No other details
available.

Colin Andrews, the well-known crop circle investigator,
reportedly viewed 15 minutes of the footage which showed the
bodies.

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The following information was published in the February 1995
Issue of The Circle Hunter magazine, published in England
(Information on this Magazine below).  The excerpt below is
a follow up to an article from their January issue
concerning alleged video footage of the Rosewell incident in
1947.  Reports of the footage being purchased by the U.S.
television show Encounters have not been confirmed.

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(Begin magazine text)

All the talk at the moment seems to be about the recently
discovered video concerning the Rosewell alleged UFO crash
and subsequent autopsy of alien bodies (see article last
issue).  John Holman, UK co-ordinator of "Operation Right to
Know", has been on the case talking to Reg Presley and
people invovled in the Rosewell incident, and has uncovered
some more details about the film.  The part of the film that
contains footage of the debris reveals an abundance of
military personel, as well as a large crane with lifting
tackle.

Perhaps the most astounding detail which has surfaced is
that a number of recognisable persons can be made out.  One
of these is President Harry Truman, the US President during
the Rosewell incident.  The implications of this alone are
quite startling, adding credence to the hypothesis that the
video is not hoaxed.  The lengths that someone would have to
go to, to obtain footage of President Truman in 1947 and
somehow "mask" him on to set-up footage of a UFO crash site
all on old cine film typical of 1947 would in itself be a
very difficult task.  Take, for example, the 1994 Hollywood
smash, "Forrest Gump" where the actor Tom Hanks appears to
shake hands with President Kennedy in a piece of black and
white footage.  This was produced using the lastest
technology, at great expense to their budgest (alledgedly
the most expensive scene in the whole film), and using a
whole army of scientists and engineers.  In the case of the
Rosewell film, cine footage of other recognisable persons
would have to be masked on to the screen in addition to
President Truman, and then all the different characters
would have to interact with each other in an operation much
more complex than the simple handshake performed in "Forest
Gump".

The BBC have already agreed to show the film on network
television later this year, but the film will be studied
further, before then, to help determine the origin of this
bizarre footage.  Time should reveal the true nature of this
old cine film, but one thing is certain: it is either a hoax
of unprecendented proportion, or elese a UFO really did
crash, alien bodies were really recovered, and the President
of the United States was present at the site.  Different
people will have different views, but at this stage we
should all be open minded and prepared to accept either
possibility.

(End of magazine text)

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Note:  The Circle Hunter magazine is edited by Ian McCormack
and Anthony Horn, and produced monthly.  Ian McCormack can
be reached at 23 Cedarwood Drive, Leyland, Lancashire, PR5
1HN, England.  Phone: (01772) 456765.  Anthony Horn can be
reached at 23 Sea View Drive, Scarborough, North Yorkshire,
Y011 3HY, England.  Phone:  (01723) 351639.

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Robert Mitchell has been sharing with us and people on
newsnet about this situation.  On Sunday, March 5th, we
received the message below from him (actually the previous
sections came from his posts as well:

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Return-Path: [email protected]
From: [email protected] (Robert Mitchell)
Subject: RE: ROSWELL UPDATE
Date: Wed,  1 Mar 1995 18:43:00 GMT
Organization: Awaiter BBS 510-939-9992
To: [email protected]

Hi Joshua, thank you for the encouragement. At this point in
time things are happening very quickly in England concerning
the Roswell case, much faster than I can keep up with. I'll
do my best to keep you informed, I believe it's very
important that this info. reach out past just the UFO
insiders. I know you have your own spin on this type of
info., I believe that I can trust you to keep the spirit and
intent in which this info. is being givin. Please also keep
in mind that this could all be a hoax, and that this
infomation could be givin out to pull us away from much more
important matters. With that in mind here's part III (The
two previous parts listed above).

Here's the latest on the Roswell film/autopsy report part 3.
I would like to give special thanks to the International UFO
Congress & Film Festival for there help in making this
information available. I'm sorry, I'm not at liberty to give
the name of the individual who faxed us this information.
Hopefully he will allow us to use his name in the future. I
received this fax on 02-28-95 from England via are friends
at the International UFO Congress in Oakland Ca. No changes
have been made to the text in any way, it appears just as I
received it.

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"With regards to your questions about the alleged Rosswell
Film Footage. First of all I am very careful about what
appears on these computer networks. In England It appears
that everybody with a computer is trying to get into
the act with the consequence that they are getting full of
total rubbish".

"The name of the person who went to the United State and
purchased the film is Ray Santilli He is involved in the
production of films, mainly musical. I have been in touch
with him and he confirmed that he had purchased several
reels of 1940s vintage miliary film footage which purports
to show autopsy being carried out on alien beings".

"So far he has allowed certain people to view 15 minutes of
the film. I had chance to view the film but was not prepared
to travel 250 miles in view of what I was told from people
who had seen it".

"The film which as you can imagine is very poor quality and
shows a body on an ordinary wooden table, with the torso
covered with a white sheet. Only the head arms and legs are
visible. The head is turned away from the camera, so cannot
be seen properly. Two men in white coats are shown taking
samples of flesh from the arms and placing them in plastic
bags. The autopsy appears to be taking place in a shed and
the lighting is by gas pressure lamps. There is no sign of
any contamination prceedures or even gloves worn by the
Doctors performing the Autopsy. the film shows a date which
is 17 days later than the Rosswell crash and the use of
plastic bags for samples is to me unbelievable. I have
attended hundreds of post mortem examinations and the use of
plastic bags for samples is totally unthinkable. Glass
containers have always been used for body samples because
they do not contaminate the sample, but plastic does. In
those days plastic bags were new and very primitive".

"Santilli states that he has entered into contract with the
giant Fox Lorber Corporation in America to produce a film
and videos which will contain some of this footage".

That's it, the rest of the fax is of a personal nature and
is considered confidential.

.. I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape
somewhere!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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Another message received from Robert Mitchell, on March 7th

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Subject: ROSWELL UPDATE - PART IV
From: [email protected] (Robert Mitchell)
Date: Mon,  6 Mar 1995 18:33:00 GMT
To: [email protected]

-=> Quoting [email protected] to Robert Mitchell <=-

Rs> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 1995 14:02:47 -0600
Rs> To: [email protected] (Robert Mitchell)
Rs> From: [email protected] (Richard Shapiro)
Rs> Subject: RE: ROSWELL UPDATE

Rs> Thanks for sharing Robert, we are starting a Web Site
    and I am going
Rs> to  place your first two message there (since it is
    from a public
Rs> magazine)  Should I add your last message to it?

There should be no problem with using it, I have permission
to post it on the net, it is public information. I do have
another post from England that I cannot verifiy in anyway,
which I'll share with you to give you an idea of what their
talking about in England on the Boards. This message is just
talk as far as I can tell. Check it out let me know what you
think. I'm not sure I'm even going to post it, once again I
do have permission to do so that's why I'll share it with
you.

Rs> Whether this film is a hoax or not ... if you have read
    the various
Rs> books about Rosewell, it is impossible to me that all
    these people are
Rs> lying about what their actual experiences were.  Also
    the HBO (or Show
Rs> Time) movie that is now in video stores, I think pretty
    much showed the
Rs> essence of the event.

I agree I think they did a good job of it.

Rs> My feeling is that we try to keep others up to date
    with whatever we
Rs> can. Each of us has to make up our own minds anyway but
    as far as the
Rs> UFO issue goes .... there is just too many people
    having some kind of
Rs> experiece (I have had a few of mine own) and too much
    resistance from
Rs> the scientific community that it can't be happening.

Rs> All the best ......... Joshua

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Subject: Alleged Archive Film
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You will no doubt have heard of the alleged archive film.

Whilst we must remain suspicious, there is an interesting
article, a late inclusion, in the current issue of UFO
Magazine (UK):

"Several cannisters of mid-1940's movies footage was
apparently copied by an official USAF photographer - and
stored secretly until now.

According to our information, the cannisters contain several
reels of film which allegedly depict UFO crash sites and
debris; more interestingly however, is the autopsy of at
least two humanoid figures - 5 feet 7 inches tall, and 3.6
feet respectively.

One sequence, shows two surgeons appearing to take thin
strips of "skin" from a tall humanoid figure who has a large
oval-shaped head and black oval-shaped eyes. Together with
other strips of skin, these were placed in a sealed glass
container. In the background can be seen an armed military
sentry wearing a cover-all.

The environment was dark and gloomy, apparently resembling a
field-type hospital tent, illuminated by paraffin-lit
pressure lamps.

The 76 year old former US Army veteran had met a British
television producer who was searching archive material. We
are told that this elderly man, appreciating the
significance of the footage, whilst at the same time
recognising perhaps his last opportunity to capitalise on
his good fortune, entered into an agreement which would see
him financially secure during his twilight years.

We are led to believe that over 100 minutes of film exists,
and negotiations have already taken place to release
significant sections in the near future. Our understanding
is that six-figure sums are involved, but this has now
become a multi-national chase for exclusive rights between
British, American and Japanese media corporations.

It is also believed that some of the data is related to the
infamous Roswell UFO crash which purportedly occurred in
1947.

Most remarkable of all, is the revelation that the then
President of the United States, Harry S. Truman, can clearly
be seen wandering amongst wreckage of a crash site which
could well be linked to Roswell and/or Corona, New Mexico.

UFO Magazine is making strenuous efforts to verify matters,
and Anthony Dodd is in close touch with the English producer
concerned and other key figures."

[END]

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Maybe I'll post it. Later Robert

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While scanning the Newsgroups, I found this other
information posted in one of the UFO newsgroups
.................  Joshua

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Subject: Re: Roswell update, film footage
From: [email protected] (QuarkMaster)
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 95 05:10:16 GMT

( This message sent by someone else, not QuarkMaster)

It's my understanding that a special screening of this
footage was held today in the UK for the Archbishop of
Canterbury... Fox is supposed to be airing the footage in a
special this month... Apparently they outbid everyone else
for the rights, paying $150K for 15 minutes of footage out
of over 90 minutes... It also appears that initial
examination/testing of the film showed it to be consistent
with film from the 1940's... It supposedly shows footage
from the autopsies of a Grey, and a "Technician "type (term
used by R.D. Butler in his article on UFO Occupant
Classifications ftp.webcom.com/pub/way/> to read it) smaller
humanoid being.  This thing is causing a stir in the
appropriate places. Talk is that this could be the beginning
of things finally opening up. We'll see....

Keep us clued in as to when this special will air.

***************
* QUARKMaster *
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